>>33 ....am I an "ol geezer" now? I see, attempting to deface my dignity. As for the accusation of being Darwinist, I must admit to that. The whole world is based on darwinism. Capitalism, education, employment, all the world is based on who's the best. It's the law of nature. Also, I must direct your argument of "possessing advantageous traits" back at yourself. While it is true that humans can possess certain "advantageous traits" that will help them go through life better, it was given naturally to them, by nature, rather than having their genomes altered genetically to be superior. With embryonic stem cell therapy, what could happen is that only the rich could afford to "design" their babies in a superior way, so that an "aristocratic hierachy" is developed, where only the rich can afford genetically enhanced offspring while the poor must live with their "normal" genomes. Is that any worse than already possessing natural genetic advantages?