http://www.fanfiction.net/s/2828044/1/
feel free to mock this author
http://www.fanfiction.net/s/4366801/1/the_darkness_within
can't tell if it's a troll of legit. only one chapter so far afterall.
>we sound like a cross between GC, Slipknot and MCR
I don't even want to think about what that would sound like.
Eek I am a longtime fan of the epic "My Immortal", but when I went to read it again I found that it is no more?? Does anyone know where I can find it, or has anyone saved it? I might have to go listen to MCR and slit my wrists whilst dressed like Amy Lee if not.
Fear not, it is here!
>>77
I see no fanfic, except for http://4-ch.net/book/kareha.pl/1154120458/ which is epic.
http://www.fanfiction.net/s/985384/1/The_Legend_of_Zelda_The_Three_Heroes_of_Time
I wrote this back when I was 12... >_<
But at least being 12 makes it a valid excuse...
Hopefully.
To see how far I've come...
http://community.livejournal.com/rocket100/tag/giovannixseren%27s+fics
I found My Immortal yesterday and decided - after an extreme lapse in intelligence - that it couldn't be as bad as everyone thought, so I launched my own investigation.
Turns out, I was right...it's worse.
34 chapters in and I wish I had blown my brains out 33 chapters ago.
By the time you get towards the end, the first chapter actually seems well written...
http://orz.gurochan.net/lit/kareha.pl/1244766472/l50
Did somebody say worst fanfic? Because I think I heard worst fanfic. Here, a 'lil preview:
Since neither Mom or I ever flushed the toilet, well it filled up years ago, many years ago. So we just started going anywhere, on the carpet, and so on. Eventually we were too lazy to bother with even that, so then we just started to shit into our jeans or whatever, which of course we never bothered to clean up, and my mom didn't remove the pair of jeans she was wearing from her body for 2 years straight. She's actually very proud of the fact that she has several thick levels of disgusting and disease-laden mold growing on her body, and her clothes, and in her hair too. But back to her jeans. She unzipped them to masturbate I'm sure, but 2 years of bathroom duty is in them and much came out the pantlegs and soaked into the furniture through the seat of her raunchy jeans.
I'm trying to write a novel, been writing one for a few years now, studied creative writing in college. Just curious who else is aspiring to be a novelist here.
i wrote the harry potter books and currently thinking about doing another saga, maybe with ninjas this time.
>>17
I suggest you fall down a flight of stairs for inspiration.
For a deep existential humanistic philosopher as am I, writing allow optimism and release.
Heres a bit of a tip: all but pop or exceptional speculative fiction is turned down because the market is flooded with generic material.
A way for a developing novelist to break into writing is to prove worth and join a shared world setting. This would be through a company like Wizards OTC, and has established authors like M. Stackpole and others.
I write Political Science case studies and essays, so yes.
I want to be a writer, but I hate myself too much right now.
No, seriously; I have this urge to think of ideas. I must write to get them all out. I don't know what will happen if I don't, but I'm currently rather backed up. It hurts, in some strange abstract way. No wait, it just feels like constipation.
>>5
I've started on a book series that falls in roughly the same category, the phantom 'YEAH THIS WILL BE FAMOUS SOMEDAY' category. I don't believe in it, but I'd like to believe in someone who believes in it. That would help a lot.
>>15
I considered being a creative writing major, but I chickened out, thinking the kind of popularity I want can't be taught. I wanted to apply the writer's equivalent of Tarantino's philosophy: 'I didn't go to film school; I went to films,' or whatever he said. That said, I still want to take creative writing classes because it's hard for me as an introvert to find someone to critique my work.
>>16 blind-leading-blind
I applaud >>20,
Take note, the important thing is to break into writing; though too many poor, arrogant journalists write books.
>>21, do study philosophy and write to improve, a degree to talent does not equate.
Practice, get reveiw, and never submit a work written in mania for a final (unless coherancy isn't key, as in humour and poetry). Some great fiction, from, Frankenstein to Kafka, came from writers circles. Most great authors have reveiw by friends. Good Musings.
Fictionpress.net if none else.
I intend to do a Creative Writing and English Literature course at university. Have I made a big mistake assuming this is a good place to start to become a writer, then?
I am currently doing the first year of my English Literature and Creative Writing degree. I chose to do Literature as well just in case it turned out to be bullshit. I still worry about the Creative Writing half, but I have found everything I have learned to be very useful, especially the screenwriting module I did recently that not only inspired me creatively but explained a lot about formatting scripts and how to pitch your work to production companies and all the stuff you need to be taken seriously. The literature seems pretty good so far, learned a lot about criticism and the role of the author in the creation and reading of a novel. The only things I don't like about the course is one teacher who isn't really bad enough to comment on, and word limits on creative assignments. 1500 words to write a short story isn't enough, and though I understand they have goodness knows however many students' work to go through, but my plot ideas tend to just make for stories much longer than they allow for. Because of that I wrote one of the worst things I have ever written, and I even though the first year doesn't count toward the actual degree, I still panic about my grades a lot.
>>21 Being a first year I suppose I can't dispense with much advice, but consider the possibility of taking a Creative Writing course combined with something else, and then you can alter the proportions of your degree later on - my university allows me to alter it as I go along and if the slightest thing goes wrong that's going to be my first plan of action.
Sorry for wall of text, I had to get that off my chest. Whenever someone goes "Creative Writing is useless!" I always imagine myself aged and balding, stacking shelves at the nearest Tescos. I have lots of ideas, I just hope I can get out there.
My novel is unmarketable according to one publisher and a poor business decision at this time according to another. It doesn't end happy so I know it's a tough sell but I'll keep plugging away. Hemingway wallpapered his walls with rejection letters, I frame mine.
Yes.
It is a hobby of mine when I am not doing physics.
What are some good ones? So far I've read:
Evolution's Darling
Kansas, She says, is the Name of the Star (story in july 2006 issue of F&SF)
To quote Tony Daniel's story, "Valley of the Gardens":
"We made love in the master bedroom with rose tendrils tingeing the sunshine passed through its bay window with a green and living light. I tried to be tender with her, for she was technically a virgin---remade so many times that her body was practically that of a child. She was a child with a woman's experience, however, and she showed no similar ginger feeling toward me, but pulled me down to ready her, then up by the hair to position me over her, and said "now," and I plunged inside her."
Tony Daniel is actually one of my favorite SF writers ever. His stuff is brilliant. It has a vaguely anime feel in some places...the "your partner transforms into your weapon" thing from this story is right out of Soul Eater, but he also has some of the most inventive and sweepingly grand Science Fiction writing out there.
The Witches of Karres... A+++ loli
Pierce Anthony's various books have lots of loli in them...though the writing ain't that great.
The Child Garden, by Geoff Ryman. Has loli yuri zoophilia, also, it's a wonderful novel.
You need help.
>>21
Did you read The Witches of Karres? You can find it online sometimes. If you read it you are obliged to write me a loli fanfic.
>>22
Well, I prefer to read books in print rather than on a screen. But the currently in print version says it's edited by Eric Flint, nominally to be less old-fashioned and pulpy and read better for modern readers. I have my concerns that any possible "oh noez the pedophilia!" content may have been Bowdlerized, however. Does anyone know about the current, in-print edition? (Link to what I mean: http://www.amazon.com/Witches-Karres-James-H-Schmitz/dp/1416509151/ref=pd_bbs_sr_1?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1237522450&sr=8-1)
It's not actually pedophilic, it just has feisty lolis. In any case, you can get a copy from your local library.
Some of us write as well as read. For those who do, what are your methods for getting past writers block?
Inb4 how bad we may be at writing. This isn't a scorn nor pity party.
Describe things, and come up with ideas about the things around you- coffee makers, trees, tv, people, whatever- and write them down.
Think harder.
Did you know that there is a story by Haruki Murakami in this week's New Yorker? (feb. 13-20)
I won't spoil it for you, but I can see how someone would hate him now!
Ryu Murakami is far more popular in Japan. I think knowledge of Haruki is more a reaction to his popularity in the west.
Although his first book, I believe, did quite well in Japan when it was first published.
Someone said he writes in a way that is easily translated. But he's also said that rehearsing is important when it comes to English language speeches because he lacks the grasp of English (not necessarily vocabulary) to pick the right words on the fly from a sea of options. Whereas his job is twisting and manipulating and mastering written Japanese. So I think he is comfortable in Japanese in that way.
His references, subject matter and philosophy is just not particularly Japanese.
>>42
To be honest I can't be bothered to look up any figures, but Haruki has sold way more than Ryuu, and although he probably owes a fair bit of that to Norwegian Wood (the first part of which was Japan's highest selling book of all time for a while), he' s still the more popular of the two. It's hardly suprising either, his books are generally easier reading than Ryuu's.
You're right about his style though. In fact his prose is sometimes criticised for reading like a translation into Japanese of an English book.
But in discussion I find that more people seem to know Ryu's name. Which led me to the conclusion that among Japanese people, Ryu is more well-known.
That being said, Haruki's new book almost immediately sold out of the first printing. And received enormous pre-orders. Which makes sense to me.
I have just found people more responsive when I mention Ryu Murakami.
At least critically, Ryu is more popular. Japanese critics tend to be, well, critical of Haruki.
>>44
I've not had so many conversations about Ryuu, but I have a feeling it's a difference in the kind of people we talk to.
While I do think Haruki is more popular overall, I agree that Ryuu is more "popular" and well regarded in the critical opinion, and no doubt in the opinions of more serious and critical readers as well. Also, I should emphasise that although critical opinion of it is not so great, Norwegian Wood really is resposible for a large part of Haruki's popularity. Most of the Japanese people I've had conversations about Haruki with would count it as their favourite of his books, and I think I've talked to a few people who don't like his others at all.
I'm not exactly sure what the deal with his latest was, certainly you'd expect it to do well but it sold like crazy and wiki claims it was a social phenomenon that increased the sales of things mentioned in the book and of his previous novels.
>>45
Oh, and I also meant to say that I'm not disagreeing that Ryuu is well known, just saying Haruki is more widely read and more popular in that respect. For one thing, Haruki is very media shy, whereas Ryuu hosted a TV show and is involved in a lot of things outside writing.
(goddamn catchpa, I had to switch browsers because it wouldn't refresh)
Yeah, I understand what you are saying. I guess after living in Japan for a while, I just got this impression that westerners cared more about Haruki then the Japanese really did.
But I think it is more a case of critical opinion being higher in the west. Western critics seem to gush over Haruki, whereas Ryu is a more established name among Japanese critics.
Yeah, and then there's Ryu's TV show and the films he has made on top of his novels. I am sure a lot of people I talked to were just aware of him from television or something as opposed to from his novels.
Also, I agree about it being partly because of the type of people we talk to as well.
Murakami writes dry postmodern trash. I can't stand that asshat.
Of course, I read his stuff anyway. :(
>>49 I mean Haruki there. But actually, I've read one of Ryu's as well (Piercing, or something like that). It was also shit.
I wonder if there's any good modern Japanese writing.
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Favourite of iichan posters.
I'll start off with:
Meyer doesn't get the whole Physiology viewpoint. There are so many things wrong with this book, scientifically, and it doesn't matter, because it's "Fantasy!" but, how could Edward have had sex... He has no blood... No blood=No erect manly parts.
He inserts metal rods into his urethra to simulate erection.
OMFG!!! ok so some of these comments i can relate to but to be honest i don't think the story was SOOO bad that ppl should start bashing in on Seph Meyer. yes i read all the books. yes they were all insanely cheezy. yes i watched the movie. yes it was terrible but here's something to think about...if you guys say that this book is such an epic fail then....how come even the ppl who HATE it....have read the book??...just something to think about....
>if you guys say that this book is such an epic fail then....how come even the ppl who HATE it....have read the book??
Are you retarded? How can someone possibly be an accurate judge a book without having read it? How can you hate something without knowing it? God.
That's like saying "if you hate fish so much, why did you even try tasting it that one time?".
Well I hate it and I've never read it, so you're wrong on both fronts, fangirl
Unless of course we define success by number of copies sold in which case shit literature about gay vampires comes out on top.
ok well let me just say that i didn't exactly word what i wanted to say correctly...if you're told that this book is a piece of shit....then y read it?
ok so maybe i didn't word what i wanted to say correctly...
what i meant was if ur told that this book is a piece of shit then y read it??
>>44
Because we like to form our own opinion? Because we have taste and like to use it and not just like or dislike what we're told to?
To follow up on the metaphor, because we had been told a lot of people dislike fish, we didn't like the smell of fish, but we had to take a bite just to be sure that, yeah okay, we don't like fish. And when I say just a bite it means I couldn't even finish the first book, that's how bad it was (to me).
twighlight sucks. thats it. end of story. oookaayyyy??
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sup neil
Might read it if I ever have nothing to do.
But a grammar mistake on the first page scares me a bit.
>>3
what there's a grammar mistake and on the first page!? I'm not gonna touch it.
wow that sitelayout is so 90's.
Mmm, if there's a grammar mistake please point it out to me!
This book's been proofread by about thirty people, and the first part has been critiqued by more than that, so I'm a little bit surprised that an obvious error slipped through.
>>6
"He blocking another lunge, lamenting once again the impulse to do a little exploring on his own, away from the safety of his fellow adventurers".
Unless there's a subtlety here I don't get (I'm fairly good at english but not a native speaker), didn't you mean "blocked" ? I believe it's just a mistake due to inattention, but still. On the first page. After proofreading? It's not a good sign to me.
Thriller / Mystery / Suspense
It's probably my favorite genre next to science fiction and I was wondering if anyone knew of any good books that are easy to get (@ Barnes and Noble, Borders or something of the sort; nothing out of print).
I'm currently reading "Out" by Natsuo Kirino and I finished the translated Short Novels by Nisioisin "Zaregoto" and "Death Note: BB Murders"
Note: It doesn't have to be translated Japanese novels, it just so happens those are the most recent books that I have read because a friend recommended them.
Sherlock Holmes, I'm not even kidding they're fucking good. Start with "A Study in Scarlet", it's the first one.
What about agatha christie?
Edgar Allan Poe
HP Lovecraft
Hey everyone, looking for some good reads in the Post Appocolyptic Science fiction/future vein. Anything from the anilation of most of the human race, to goverment throw overs turning into a horrible dictatorship. Some of my favorites include:
Anything written by John Wyndham
Margret Atwood's Oryx and Crake and Handmaids Tale
Brave New World
1984
Battle Royal
Lord of the Flies
Please, any ideas are welcome!! :D
A Canticle for Lebowitz
Its been a while since I read it but I remember it being entertaining.
watch Akira. It's animated but apocalyptic. :)
Apocalyptic = Evangelion. Watch it.
Never Let Me Go by Kazuo Ishiguro
You'll like this especially if you're a fan of Oryx and Crake
Also check out Cormac McCarthy's "The Road", there's movie of it in production righ tnow.
Currently reading "The Road"
thus far it equals pure awesome highly enjoying it
i have found that while Monica Hughes writes for a younger audience, quite a few of her books fall under the dystopian theme. Particularly her novels "Devil on my Back", "Dream Catcher", "Tomorrow City", "The Crystal Drop" and "The Other Place".
If you are in for a quick and engaging science fiction read you cant go wrong with Monica Hughes
Alas Babylon by Pat Frank is a good read for an "after nuclear war" kind of thing.
The Bible.
Margot Bennett's The Long Way Back
John W. Campbell's Twilight and Night
Jonathan Lethem's Amnesia Moon
Margot Bennett's The Long Way Back
Although for some people it might be a little bit politically incorrect (but such people probably stay away from books anyway ;) ).
In short - it is about Africans who developed advanced civilization coming to former England with a scientific expedition to examine primitive culture there. You can see where it is going to, right from beginning - it isn't a scientific expedition, surprised? ;) and then couple of other things are going to be revealed. Probably was much more shocking when it was released in 50s, but still.
Twilight and Night by John W. Campbell are great. Some things changed in science since they were written but still they are great and have this feeling of being last man alive in the universe - I had similiar thing when I was watching "on the beach" (new version, older one didn't touch me so much) - that the universe is now empty, last human being died and there is pretty much nothing else except usual stuff you can find all over space - stars, nebulas, planets. And by the way, some other stories of this author can be considered apocalyptic, like one about expedition coming to alien's planet, where everyone is dead, and they try to figure out what has happened there.
"The Dark Tower" series by Stephen King is really crazy and apocalyptic, all the way through the seven books :D
>Dan Brown's The Lost Symbol sold over half a million copies in first week of UK sales, making it the fastest-selling adult book of all time
http://www.guardian.co.uk/books/2009/sep/22/dan-brown-lost-symbol-record-sales
How does this make you feel?
I lost all hope for the future.
I'm getting castrated so that my children don't have to grow up in a post-Lost Symbol world.
he needs to stop writing
Oh come on, he ain't that bad. I haven't read that book, though.
For two hours, Becker interpreted an endless stream of Mandarin symbols. But each time he gave them a translation, the cryptographers shook their heads in despair. Apparently the code was not making sense. Eager to help, Becker pointed out that all the characters they'd shown him had a common trait-they were also part of the Kanji language. Instantly the bustle in the room fell silent. The man in charge, a lanky chain-smoker named Morante, turned to Becker in disbelief.
"You mean these symbols have multiple meanings?"
Becker nodded. He explained that Kanji was a Japanese language based on modified Chinese characters. He'd been giving Mandarin translations because that's what they'd asked for.
"Jesus Christ." Morante coughed. "Let's try the Kanji."
Like magic, everything fell into place.
haha oh wow
Pfft, I'm actually reading The Lost Symbol. It isn't an epic novel, but it is enjoyable to read. I can't just drop the series after finishing Angels and Demons and DaVinci Code.