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1: Good scifi thread (86) 2: Should I let my personal politics affect whose books I buy? (12) 3: [Applause]Everytime we finish a book we post here[Praise] (88) 4: Haruki Murakami (63) 5: Mystery Novels / Short Novels (5) 6: Audiobooks on Youtube? (1) 7: Was Philip K Dick right? (3) 8: LOTR (4) 9: story of O (5) 10: Return of the King - So what happens to Mouth Of Sauron after destruction of the ring? (3) 11: How you like your epubs? (5) 12: Places to get free books on the Web. (4) 13: japanese old boy (1) 14: The Fountainhead. Spoiler. (53) 15: Cat on the Table (1) 16: omniscient foresight network (2) 17: House Of Leaves [Book] [May contain spoilers] (3) 18: New Weird. (4) 19: taken down [Academia] [RAGE] (18) 20: Avengers? (4) 21: Reasons why the Twilight series is an abomination in every sense of the word (55) 22: Ray Bradbury Dead! (4) 23: Should I get Norwegian Wood by Haruki Murakami? (4) 24: [Cao Cao]Romance of the Three Kingdoms[Liu Bei] (4) 25: What are you doing for you? (to university students) (16) 26: The Last Question (1) 27: what are some good to read? (5) 28: TAR (4) 29: NaNoWriMo writers, rejoice! (10) 30: Currently reading thread (12) 31: Books you started reading but just coun't get through. (63) 32: [Recommendations] Good fanfiction series [Fandom] (2) 33: [cyberculture] The tags say it all [recommend something] (2) 34: Trying to Find a Book (3) 35: Help Put My Novel, "A Burning Youth", In Print! (5) 36: GCSE English Concept (1) 37: [weaboo]The Asian Saga/The Noble House series (5) 38: "Writing is fifty years behind painting." (11) 39: free ebook worth a peek (3) 40: Lets talk about BLOGS (8)

Good scifi thread (86)

1 Name: Bookworm : 2006-01-31 02:40 ID:iCCThARF


77 Name: Bookworm : 2006-11-29 15:41 ID:bVYA10RH


God, Singularity Sky was kind of insufferable with its hip pop-culture references every other page. They totally ruined any and all suspensions of disbelief.

78 Name: Bookworm : 2007-03-31 21:27 ID:MXjXbS+/

What? No Philip K. Dick?

79 Name: Bookworm : 2009-07-18 00:33 ID:FLBgIj3+

Try out Alastair Reynolds, especially his Revelation Space universe novels. The books take place from 2200 to 40'000 AD and feature a rather dark and gritty setting. One of the best sci fi authors out of the UK.

Check it out:

80 Name: Bookworm : 2009-07-19 14:05 ID:0+5yy5cv


Eh, I've read a number of short stories and novellas by Alastair Reynolds, and I didn't like him all that much. Too military and old-school. There are lots of different kinds of flavors of SF out there, each appealing to different tastes, so it's kind of hard to really just say "Good scifi."

Stross is a controversial seems people either love him or hate him. Therefore, I'd like to read one of his books. Might start with "Glasshouse."

81 Name: Bookworm : 2009-07-22 02:10 ID:nx9581QI

Space Odyssey.

The first one was amazing, but they kinda went downhill from there.


82 Name: Bookworm : 2009-08-29 01:54 ID:D4xYx0Nq

We all have read him already I guess. There is no need to even reccomend it.

83 Name: dmpk2k!hinhT6kz2E : 2009-08-29 18:50 ID:Heaven

I recently read Sun of Suns. It's what happens if you take an artificial star, inflate a dyson sphere around it, fill it with air, and populate it with a steampunk culture. I found it quite enjoyable.

I'm in the middle of reading Mortal Engines, which is about cities that eat cities. Literally. The author isn't afraid to leave a cliche or two in shambles either. It's promising so far.

84 Name: Señor Cool : 2009-09-17 13:38 ID:xRTFV4EB

Isaac Asimov's "I, Robot" is just a masterpiece. Will Smith not inclueded.

85 Name: Bookworm : 2009-09-25 13:00 ID:lDGwP6OW

Vernor Vinge: A Deepness in the Sky.

86 Name: Bookworm : 2015-04-01 07:45 ID:tMSYzi9e

A Call To Arms — Alan Dean Foster — is an interesting reversal of the space stereotype, where humans are the weaklings of the universe.

I am surprised that the Dune series has not been mentioned. It is a great masterpiece, and if you can read the whole series that was written by Frank Herbert, then I applaud you. Also don't read the awful sequels that are written by his son.

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Should I let my personal politics affect whose books I buy? (12)

1 Name: German Bookworm : 2011-03-21 17:52 ID:ScStXWjs

So, um, where to begin? A while ago some Google ads next to a GMail conversation about my reading material (mostly about David Weber and other Baen Books authors) led me to a site advertising a German alternative-history series of military SF called "Kaiserfront 1949". The basic premise is that Germany narrowly won WWI against France and is a major world power with its own military alliance by the year 1949 (WWII did not happen, nor did the Nazi regime or the Weimar republic - the Kaiser is still in power). It is also the only country owning nuclear weapons and wants to keep it that way. The publisher's site provides the first book as a free PDF download, so that's all I've read so far.

Apparently these books aren't self-contained stories, they literally end with a German "to be continued". What I read was not too awful, but a bit boring. The author seems to have decided that German technology roolz, all other tech droolz, so German planes can often simply fly above the maximum range of their enemies, German tanks are unharmed by a direct hit from a Russian shell, but fire one shot at the Russian from the same range and the tank is reduced to molten metal, etc etc. What did annoy me a bit was the way almost all German soldiers were portrayed as honorable people, whereas the Americans like torturing their prisoners, the British lack any troop morale, and the Russians love attacking without any formal declaration of war.

When I looked at the publisher's other offerings, it quickly became apparent that their books are largely aimed at the German-speaking right-wing xenophobe market. One novel set in the mid-21st century, for example, depicts Europe as firmly under the yoke of Islamic oppressors, who have instituted sharia law everywhere but the Vatican, with just a few valiant Germans to resist them.

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3 Name: Bookworm : 2011-03-22 13:18 ID:/C/9H8IU

Hell, I would read a Dianetics book if I were ever curious about the body of theory Xenu's followers covet so dearly. You shouldn't let your world-view limit your view of the world.

4 Name: Bookworm : 2011-03-29 02:37 ID:B+YPnhGj

There was a very talented punk rock group in the US called Skrewdriver. But, because they were white supremicists, all revenue from album sales went to a variety of sinister causes. To that end, I would encourage OP to find as much information as possible on the publishers and authors before considering a purchase

5 Name: Bookworm : 2011-06-19 18:19 ID:SUzzEITI

>>1 here, thanks for the advice! Will cautiously order vol. 2 for now.

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7 Name: pirate : 2014-10-13 06:34 ID:70DFju8V

Don't buy the books. Try to find somewhere that they can be downloaded for free. If your library has them read them there.

8 Name: Bookworm : 2014-10-18 12:46 ID:AxfZSp6x

Or buy them used?

9 Name: Bookworm : 2014-12-12 18:20 ID:RXsT0gDB

Never. Exposing yourself to opposite yourself would be one of the best things a person can do for yourself.

10 Name: Bookworm : 2014-12-15 08:55 ID:Gu67V/kT

anyone know where i can download lewis 'scooter' libby's "the apprentice" for free? i don't want to give him any money for it but am afraid if i get it used the pages will all be stuck together with old semen

11 Name: Bookworm : 2014-12-27 18:23 ID:+JbvY8Ye

I was drunk when I wrote this. I'm sorry.
What I mean is exposing yourself to opposing ideologies is one of the best things you can do for yourself.

12 Name: Bookworm : 2014-12-27 21:07 ID:xvRcR8YR

>>11 Of course.

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[Applause]Everytime we finish a book we post here[Praise] (88)

1 Name: Bookworm : 2008-06-11 06:20 ID:CwXuimoY
This is a nice thread. Let's have a book edition.

I just read my first book by Haruki Murakami, "The Wind-Up Bird Chronicle". Murakami gets a lot of praise in these parts, and after reading this book, I can confirm that it isn't unfounded. The book to me felt a bit weaker towards the end, but I really liked hearing the stories of Nomonhan, Siberia, and such.

79 Name: Bookworm : 2014-10-19 11:50 ID:IIVJ6/D1

Freakonomics: A Rogue Economist Explores the Hidden Side of Everything by Steven D. Levitt and Stephen J. Dubner

Has some interesting ideas that are statistically accurate, but won't convince anyone. A short read with very interesting ideas. If you're into controversy, it turns out that abortion is actually a very good thing from a very limited economic perspective. Then again, Rhodesia was a very good thing from a very limited economic perspective (but also made no one happy).

80 Name: Bookworm : 2014-10-19 11:59 ID:IIVJ6/D1

The Missionary Position: Mother Teresa in Theory and Practice by Christopher Hitchens

Not sure when my mother got all super atheist, but it was right around the time she retired and didn't have to be polite to anyone ever again. So I got this book (or long essay?) shoved in my face.

Hitchens never has anything nice to say, not even about Mother (Fucking) Teresa. Turns out she was cool with terrible right-wing dictators and misappropriated donations. Then again, that's the Catholic hierarchy in general. If you're looking for a reason to hate a saint, go for it. If you prefer to believe she was a generally good person, or that anyone can ever be anything approaching any Christian definition of good, I'd ignore it.

81 Name: Bookworm : 2014-10-19 12:15 ID:IIVJ6/D1

Rossiya: Voices from the Brezhnev Era by Alex Shinshin

A slightly interesting memoir of a trek across the USSR and the Eastern Bloc in the 1970s. Traveling from Vladivostok to Poland, Shinshin most-memorably notes subtle instances of Soviet rebellion in an era when supposedly no such thing existed. If you're into this sort of thing, you'll like it. Otherwise, you'll wonder why I'm even bothering to type so many (72) words about it.

82 Name: Bookworm : 2014-10-19 12:50 ID:IIVJ6/D1

The End of Faith: Religion, Terror, and the Future of Reason by Sam Harris

OM[Undefined], we get it. Christian/Islamic fundamentalism is awful. We know. This book seems to insist we can be "spiritual" without any god and that mostly involves Buddhism. Sure, whatever dude. The Buddha gets his oranges and incense as part of my personal superstition, and I live your dream or not, or whatever. In the meantime, my adopted gods have obviously acquired a taste for Clif Crunchy Peanut Butter Energy Bars in addition to their favorite bananas, as evidenced by my good fortune in traveling the South Pacific. Watch me fail to give a fuck and continue to leave offerings for the good of my wayward traveling companions who give their offerings to the wrong piles of rocks. I guess this might appeal to you if you have never once heard of an alternative worldview. Otherwise: atheism, yadda, yadda, yadda, the most-logical option.

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84 Name: Bookworm : 2014-10-19 21:39 ID:IIVJ6/D1

Sorry, I can't believe there's such a market for these books.

85 Name: Bookworm : 2014-11-02 07:47 ID:IIVJ6/D1

The Russia House by John le Carré

Imagine James Bond told from the perspective of his accountants. It's kind of like that. Except imagine that the James Bond in question fell into spying after his career in banking fell through. Not sure why this was forced on me, but hey, it offers some highly fictionalized accounts of the everyday early Perestroika-era Soviet lifestyle and I dig that for some reason. An entirely bureaucratic spy novel.

86 Name: Bookworm : 2014-11-02 08:08 ID:IIVJ6/D1

The Vast Unknown by Broughton Coburn

It's about the first American expedition to the summit of Mount Everest. After having been beaten in the race to #1 in nearly everyone else by 1963, Americans seek to play catch up in mountaineering too. Notable for a few technical firsts, the expedition was otherwise routine, including the death of one member. As far as these books go, it's OK. The best part is mention of the Camel cigarettes tie-in promotion. Oh, 1963, you so silly.

87 Name: Bookworm : 2014-11-02 09:11 ID:IIVJ6/D1

The Greenlanders by Jane Smiley

Difficult to read if only because everyone has a difficult name. Gives a highly-fictionalized account of the many trials of the Norse Greenlanders in a style sort-of reminiscent of the sagas. Greenlanders were the hardest of Viking remnants, who managed to eke out an existence through primitive pastoralism in the worst theoretically-habitable place on earth. They did this for close to five hundred (miserable) years. They died out due to isolation, climate change, and invasion on two fronts. Take note, Western World! Or read about Rapa Nui, I guess.

Otherwise, cherish hilarious (in the Icelandic-sense, so not particularly) tales of St. Olaf the Greenlander and the various drawn-out stories of so-and-so's-dottir living a full and detailed life before suddenly dying by falling through thin ice while seeking out her lost sheep. If you're into misery porn, you might as well learn something from it! Read it!

88 Name: Bookworm : 2014-11-09 10:32 ID:IIVJ6/D1

The World Without Us by Alan Weisman

Taken from a series of magazine articles, it sure has that feel to it. Interesting stuff, most of which is plastic is bad, m'kay. If you deny the human influence on climate change, then buy six copies, have them delivered overnight air, burn them, read it on your good iPad and have a good laugh. Otherwise, it might make you a little nervous about the future.

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Haruki Murakami (63)

1 Name: Haruki Murakami : 2006-02-15 14:37 ID:Rn2srQyI

Did you know that there is a story by Haruki Murakami in this week's New Yorker? (feb. 13-20)
I won't spoil it for you, but I can see how someone would hate him now!

54 Name: Bookworm : 2011-03-29 05:39 ID:BH7BQ/bt

I'm Japanese.
I think some sort of thing that represents the national anthem is going away nationally. We Japanese people can imagine that scene easily because that was everyday routine before. Maybe it had been true roughly, even Murakami remade it a little.

55 Name: Bookworm : 2011-07-29 10:55 ID:lTFQt2jr

I personally love Murakami, he is probably one of my favourite authors. I've read most of his books and am looking for similar authors. So far on my list of books to read are:
Hotel Iris
The Crimson Labyrinth
Salmonella Men on Planet Porno

If you can recommend any others, please do!

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57 Name: Bookworm : 2011-09-04 04:09 ID:fMcV2qJv


>Hotel Iris
>If you can recommend any others, please do!

Also by Yoko Ogawa: The Diving Pool. A must-read.

58 Name: Bookworm : 2011-12-16 21:11 ID:Heaven

Metamorphosis was totally metaphors and shit. I personally feel it was about the inhumanity of living your life exclusively for work. But I had a Lit teacher who made a pretty compelling argument about how Gregor Samsa wants to fuck his sister.

59 Name: Helpful : 2011-12-20 21:48 ID:hpNndP6b

Anybody read 1Q84 yet?

60 Name: Bookworm : 2011-12-21 17:41 ID:6ETfqlrB

>>59 currently in the christmas gift list

61 Name: Bookworm : 2011-12-28 22:34 ID:T/oyU0eX

Maybe I'll read some of these books. I got a nice new nook for Christmas so ebooks are a bit more pleasant to read.

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63 Name: Bookworm : 2014-10-11 10:21 ID:cqZXz8je

I was really really disappointed

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Mystery Novels / Short Novels (5)

1 Name: Bookworm : 2009-10-29 07:23 ID:rGH0FZU/

Thriller / Mystery / Suspense

It's probably my favorite genre next to science fiction and I was wondering if anyone knew of any good books that are easy to get (@ Barnes and Noble, Borders or something of the sort; nothing out of print).

I'm currently reading "Out" by Natsuo Kirino and I finished the translated Short Novels by Nisioisin "Zaregoto" and "Death Note: BB Murders"

Note: It doesn't have to be translated Japanese novels, it just so happens those are the most recent books that I have read because a friend recommended them.

2 Name: Bookworm : 2009-11-18 20:14 ID:tlDMOLmg

Sherlock Holmes, I'm not even kidding they're fucking good. Start with "A Study in Scarlet", it's the first one.

3 Name: Bookworm : 2009-11-20 06:55 ID:IGwTaKWG

What about agatha christie?

4 Name: Bookworm : 2009-12-09 00:12 ID:DzaJvEX2

Edgar Allan Poe
HP Lovecraft

5 Name: Bookworm : 2014-09-06 00:33 ID:FJU3DcYf

Perry Mason novels are great. Especially if you like "Phoenix Wright" games.

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Audiobooks on Youtube? (1)

1 Name: Bookworm : 2014-08-17 14:14 ID:i/ufCnUJ

Trainspotting - Irvine Welsh:

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Was Philip K Dick right? (3)

1 Name: Bookworm : 2014-03-18 16:29 ID:y5LX/gE8

Did the Empire ever end?

2 Name: Bookworm : 2014-04-14 13:08 ID:DVS0LEFR


3 Name: Bookworm : 2014-05-20 05:02 ID:m12Ya/l8

you're speaking of VALIS and the Divine Invasion?
i loved those books.
i don't know if i will read transmigration soon. maybe

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LOTR (4)

1 Name: Bookworm : 2014-03-27 04:56 ID:T+AmmFo7

Best. Series. Ever.

Am I wrong?

2 Name: Bookworm : 2014-03-29 09:38 ID:YxgX+VeD

It was alright, I don't remember much of it, the last time I read it was when I was in elementary school I think. I recently reread the Hobbit and that was pretty good though.

3 Name: Bookworm : 2014-04-04 16:36 ID:4s39pJkD

I read it first in elementary school, then I reread it last year and realized how fucking awesome it actually is.

4 Name: Bookworm : 2014-05-10 02:23 ID:j6lGrkhW

Rereading the series. Just finished the second book. Agree with >>3.

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story of O (5)

1 Name: Bookworm : 2005-12-24 11:33 ID:4mOCAczA

i caught parts of a documentary on this book. it seemed 'interesting' to say the least. i was wondering if anyone here has read it? and is there an english tranlation?

2 Name: Bubu F. Bombard : 2005-12-24 17:04 ID:Heaven

I have and there are indeed english translations; I'm aware of one 1981 and one 1998 traduction. I've only read the original and the 1998 Hand trad., so I can't really give comments about the earlier one.

3 Name: Bookworm : 2014-04-13 05:59 ID:jchImFgV

Would you recommend it?

4 Name: Bookworm : 2014-04-18 05:23 ID:YwJokK8V

Yes, I read it. In all honesty, I thought it was kind of boring.

5 Name: Bookworm : 2014-04-19 01:56 ID:kx1gSt6h

Is it better than Gor?

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Return of the King - So what happens to Mouth Of Sauron after destruction of the ring? (3)

1 Name: Bugbo Buggings : 2013-06-04 04:41 ID:N8AoQQpR

If anybody here has read the Tolkein's "Return of the King" can they tell me what happens to the Mouth Of Sauron after the one true ring falls into the lava of Mount Doom and Sauron is defeated? Yeah I know that in the movie Aragorn kills him, but in the book he like claims diplomatic immunity. With Sauron dead what's a mouth to do? Become a lobbyist?

2 Name: paddy : 2013-06-04 10:36 ID:eEEJnr9x

after gandalf rejected the terms set by the mouth of sauron the Mouth became enraged and fearful at the same time, and the Mouth fled back to the Gate and set Mordor's forces upon the West. He was not seen again.

i am sorry to disappoint you but there is no defined ending for the mouth and what happened to him after the war of the ring was never truly revealed

3 Name: japanese old boy : 2014-03-21 07:08 ID:ip19kPj7

Your English is good at it!

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