Books & Literature@4-ch

Books & Literature@4-ch

Fiction, non-fiction and fan-fiction is all welcomed.
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基本的には英語の使用を強く希望します。ただ日本語板の場合は日本語か英語。
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1: The Last Question (3) 2: "Writing is fifty years behind painting." (23) 3: [weaboo]The Asian Saga/The Noble House series (6) 4: Books you started reading but just coun't get through. (64) 5: SciFi of ages past? (6) 6: Examples of fanfics that sold well (17) 7: Is it dumb to post here? (11) 8: I need Harry potter spoilers (12) 9: Worst Fan Fiction ever! (83) 10: LOTR (12) 11: [Applause]Everytime we finish a book we post here[Praise] (94) 12: [shortstories] Shortstories Online (14) 13: Should I let my personal politics affect whose books I buy? (16) 14: [Author] Mishima Yukio [Passive gay chauvinist] (8) 15: Good scifi thread (96) 16: Haruki Murakami (63) 17: Mystery Novels / Short Novels (6) 18: Audiobooks on Youtube? (1) 19: Was Philip K Dick right? (3) 20: story of O (5) 21: Return of the King - So what happens to Mouth Of Sauron after destruction of the ring? (3) 22: How you like your epubs? (5) 23: Places to get free books on the Web. (4) 24: japanese old boy (1) 25: The Fountainhead. Spoiler. (53) 26: Cat on the Table (1) 27: omniscient foresight network (2) 28: House Of Leaves [Book] [May contain spoilers] (3) 29: New Weird. (4) 30: Library.nu taken down [Academia] [RAGE] (18) 31: Avengers? (4) 32: Reasons why the Twilight series is an abomination in every sense of the word (55) 33: Ray Bradbury Dead! (4) 34: Should I get Norwegian Wood by Haruki Murakami? (4) 35: [Cao Cao]Romance of the Three Kingdoms[Liu Bei] (4) 36: What are you doing for you? (to university students) (16) 37: what are some good to read? (5) 38: TAR (4) 39: NaNoWriMo writers, rejoice! (10) 40: Currently reading thread (12)

The Last Question (3)

1 Name: Bookworm : 2012-02-15 18:15 ID:42IKZicp

2 Name: Bookworm : 2017-03-12 15:15 ID:JglhPtyO

dicks out for Harambe

3 Name: Bookworm : 2017-05-30 00:48 ID:vSs94rul

Read that story a while ago, quite nice

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"Writing is fifty years behind painting." (23)

1 Name: Artfag : 2010-09-27 12:18 ID:gr82mqjd

Prove me wrong.

14 Name: Bookworm : 2015-09-23 15:59 ID:7OhsyPXT

This is similar to talking about textboards vs imageboards

15 Name: Bookworm : 2015-11-26 14:51 ID:L5h8Da9J

... and humans were created by a flying spaghetti monster.
Prove me wrong!!

16 Name: Bookworm : 2016-02-21 04:17 ID:XFUkexwg

I am completely correct.
Prove me wrong.

17 Name: Bookworm : 2016-06-07 12:01 ID:JS+CdjLh

>>7
Video games do that and more.

18 Name: Bookworm : 2016-07-05 00:56 ID:2ccpFmXu

So books in the 2060s will be either totally indecipherable or commercial rot?

Western culture had a good run, I guess.

19 Name: Bookworm : 2016-07-25 18:13 ID:kiS4xuWQ

So... books in 50 years will be:

>Badoop
>fhgfhdhfdflhdglsadgfqwhuodghdzlfh
>AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA em em em DA!
>ping
>The end

I'm glad literature is still behind

20 Name: Bookworm : 2016-08-07 07:06 ID:2ccpFmXu

Futurist literature was already there in the 1920s.
Excessive Haste, a play by Verlaine.

Scene I

The curtain rises: a gentleman and a lady are seen locked in a close embrace.

Scene II

A second gentleman approaches noiselessly and shoots them both dead. The corpses remain in close contact, faces down. The killer draws near them, raises the man's head and starts back. He then raises the woman's head and shows even greater astonishment.

2nd gentleman: "My God! I've shot the wrong couple!"

fin.

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22 Name: Bookworm : 2017-03-13 14:24 ID:JS+CdjLh

>>7
But the video game encompasses film and more.

23 Name: Bookworm : 2017-05-08 03:33 ID:0RUflnh1

Leck mich am Arsch

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[weaboo]The Asian Saga/The Noble House series (6)

1 Name: Bookworm : 2010-08-11 05:21 ID:qkADHhxX

Has anybody else read these books by James Clavell? A little over a decade ago, a friend recommended I read Shogun, saying that it was the japanese equivalent to Gone with the Wind. If you haven't read the book, it basically chronicles the involvement of an English pilot in the intrigues that lead to the Toranaga shogunate. As a westerner, Clavell cleverly uses the pilot's culture shock to explain to us why the Japanese characters behave in a way that might be seemingly odd.

Tai-pan, a novel about the founding of Hong Kong, delivers this mechanic by contrasting the protagonist's understanding of Chinese society with the relative ignorance of his European peers. Both books are excellent.

Anyways, I was wondering if there are any other fans of these books and am especially interested in what others think of the later books in the series.

2 Name: Bookworm : 2010-08-18 20:20 ID:5miZ1V8T

I've only read the first 3 of the series (Shogun, Taipan, and Gaijin), so I can't comment on Clavell's later additions. But if you've yet to read Gaijin, I would recommend doing so. It restores the feel of Shogun.

3 Name: Bookworm : 2010-09-12 10:01 ID:k5+zJemx

Gaijin just felt like the Shogun edition of Taipan. In addition, it just seemed like so much less ever really happened despite being as long as it is. Pretty turned off from the rest of the series at this point.

4 Name: Bookworm : 2010-10-30 01:32 ID:Heaven

King Rat is excellent.

5 Name: Bookworm : 2011-03-29 03:06 ID:u2s6eU7V

The movie of King Rat was also excellent, as was the ten hour Shōgun miniseries.

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Books you started reading but just coun't get through. (64)

1 Name: Bookworm : 2008-09-18 18:34 ID:hyJfuQuU

Some books seem promising then you start reading and just can't read it because you either don't like the style, it's boring, it's crap.... etc.

Name of book:
How far you got:
Why you stopped reading:

55 Name: Bookworm : 2011-04-22 22:45 ID:bNh14hzJ

Name of book: New Moon
How far you got: 9 pages
Why you stopped reading: Boring, couldn't follow story

Name of book: Lolita
How far you got: 20 pages
Why you stopped reading: No time, will finish once holiday comes around

56 Name: Bookworm : 2011-04-22 22:49 ID:bNh14hzJ

I didn't find Kafka boring at all, even the unfinished novels. Although the incompleteness is somewhat irksome.

However, some of the short stories went over my head...

57 Name: Bookworm : 2011-06-17 17:31 ID:pCXpI0NR

Finally got through 1984!! It took 3 years and 4 different tried at reading it but I got through it and in the end really enjoyed it!

Life of Pi
1/4 of the way through
I know how much everyone loves this book, but I find it mind numbingly over descriptive in some parts, really I would get the point that you saw a bunch of animals when you left the zoo if you described 2 or 3, the 6 or 7 you used is overkill...
Bah!!
This is also the 4th time I've tried to muscle through this book...

Eye of the World from the Wheel of Time series
3 chapters in
The premise was pretty great, and the characters well fleshed out, but its the over descriptive writing that makes it a pain to sludge through.

58 Name: Bookworm : 2011-07-22 22:45 ID:EyTYPgm1

>>57

Theres no point in reading the Wheel of Time series, since the author died.

59 Name: Bookworm : 2011-07-27 18:23 ID:Ep+f+OjY

I Am Legend
I got half way through
It was fairly good but I got distracted, if there's a better book lying around that I want to read then that tends to take over...

60 Name: Bookworm : 2011-08-05 16:30 ID:vFxP/25x

Middlesex...started off pretty good, with good historical fiction, but I lost interest when they got to more modern times and the focus was shifting...moved on to other interests...

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62 Name: Bookworm : 2011-10-02 21:25 ID:EyTYPgm1

I'm fairly certain I was >>58 trying to troll, but in case >>58 is not me...

The last book is being ghost written. Apparently Robert Jordon gave his notes and stuff to the ghostwriter before he died.

That being said I dropped the Wheel of Time series on like book 4 or 5 because I just didn't have time to read 1000+ page books.

63 Name: Bookworm : 2011-10-05 19:58 ID:NdWybrxp

>>62 that's a good example of a series which lost it completely. Also liked it until book 4 or 5, but then was completely disgusted by the waste of time.

64 Name: Bookworm : 2017-03-12 16:44 ID:RrigRiPR

dicks out for Harambe

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SciFi of ages past? (6)

1 Name: Bookworm : 2016-09-07 11:45 ID:gQpdwgv/

Can anybody recommend some science fiction written long ago with links to where the stories can be downloaded for free? The older the stories the better. The first thing that comes to mind is obviously the works of Jules Verne. It is interesting to see how people of the past thought what the future might look like and how those visions compares with how we live today.

2 Name: Bookworm : 2016-09-16 12:51 ID:uJ1GRJN9

"We" by Yevgeny Zamatin is pretty good, and is public domain so it should be pretty easy to find.

3 Name: Bookworm : 2016-11-17 18:14 ID:AmASae1F

I have not read it all, but it is listed as one of the oldest SF stories ever.

http://www.sacred-texts.com/cla/luc/true/index.htm

4 Name: Bookworm : 2016-11-19 13:42 ID:uJ1GRJN9

>>3
Neat! Thanks for this

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6 Name: Bookworm : 2017-01-23 07:10 ID:2fGo6KpB

>>3

Second century, that is pretty old!
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Examples of fanfics that sold well (17)

1 Name: Bookworm : 2007-01-21 12:17 ID:V/SwbFzg

The only one which comes to my mind is "Wicked", a fanfic about The Wizard of Oz.

8 Name: Bookworm : 2007-01-29 00:20 ID:ohn6xQT6

>>5
You mean like The Book of Mormon? Ok, so that doesn't sell at all, they give it away.

9 Name: Bookworm : 2007-01-29 20:22 ID:ttdxEjXk

>>5
Don't forget "The Da Vinci Code."

10 Name: Bookworm : 2007-01-30 19:35 ID:0iFEIAax

>>9

Da Vinci Code has actually very little to do with the Bible. It's more like a fanfic of a fanfic.

11 Name: Bookworm : 2007-02-01 23:28 ID:TLtV9vv6

Ok, it didn't technically "sell," being a webcomic, but I think that Dan Kim's fancomic "Nana's Everyday Life" was far superior to it's source, the animu "Elfen Lied."

12 Name: Bookworm : 2007-02-02 20:54 ID:Heaven

>>7
>>11

Neither the new testament nor a webcomic are fanfics or commercial.

13 Name: Bookworm : 2007-02-03 21:15 ID:Br1s0dWM

Paramount had an arrangement with some publishers, and maybe still does, to sell "original Star Trek fiction."

I'm told it sells pretty well. Do Star Trek novels count as fanfiction?

14 Name: Bookworm : 2007-02-04 22:37 ID:TLtV9vv6

>>12

What do you define "fan fiction" as? A piece of fiction, based upon a previous work, written by a fan of that previous work?

15 Name: Bookworm : 2007-02-06 00:29 ID:Br1s0dWM

>>11

nyoro~n

16 Name: Bookworm : 2007-02-21 17:33 ID:pZs/UoHc

"Angel of the opera."
DO.
NOT.
READ.

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Is it dumb to post here? (11)

1 Name: Bookworm : 2007-11-12 21:40 ID:MD0mwgOE

Anyone else think that it's kind of absurd to post here? I'm pretty sure that at least 85% of 4ch reads nothing that isn't online.

2 Name: Bookworm : 2007-11-12 23:21 ID:NY7aJpj6

>>1 is a hypocrit for posting such a stupid thread in the first place

3 Name: Bookworm : 2007-11-13 03:57 ID:Lmz6kU/7

I know right. It's been a while since I've fixed my eyes on a book for more than an hour or two.

4 Name: Bookworm : 2007-11-15 01:08 ID:BKNlKQm1

It is entirely possible to use the net AND read books. Saying otherwise is perpatrating stereotypes.

5 Name: Bookworm : 2007-11-16 00:42 ID:Heaven

>It is entirely possible to use the net AND read books.

Not at the same time though. That ends in nothing but confusion.

6 Name: Bookworm : 2007-11-18 02:10 ID:eh5FjzVJ

Many classical literatures are available online as electronic text nowadays.

7 Name: Bookworm : 2007-11-18 14:08 ID:3qbtZWpt

OP is wrong. I love books.

8 Name: Bookworm : 2007-11-24 01:45 ID:onJ2v25O

umm I find it's better to post on any of these text boards than on imageboards. I'm just so afraid I'll get made fun of by other /b/tards.

9 Name: Bookworm : 2007-11-30 04:57 ID:Heaven

I love books. Though I think it's unfair to discount the internet as "unliterate" or whatever. There's the Gutenberg project and stuff, yeah, but...I have been truly amazed by the beauty and veracity of some internet copypasta. Or at least some good writing.

As we all know, smoking is really bad for your health. What a lot of people don't realize is that when you smoke, those few minutes of your expected lifespan are literally transformed into the ash you flick away into an ashtray. Ashtrays, each and every one of them, are constructed by a single group running several dozen front companies.

Basically, unless you're putting out your smokes beneath your heel or in the ashtray your kid made at camp, you're dispensing your ashen life into this group's eager little recepticle. Their ashtrays absorb the life force from the ashes and sends it to a central holding facility. No one knows for sure what these guys are going to do when they've collected all that life energy, but it's probably going to be huge.

Incidentally, there's talk of a rival organization leading the anti-smoking political agenda from behind the scenes. They probably figure removing smoking sections, and thus ashtrays, from restaurants and bars is a good first step towards thwarting whatever it is this ashtray company is trying to do.

10 Name: Bookworm : 2008-02-27 17:11 ID:FqHmKlw8

"The copypasta" may become the great new literary form of the 21st century, just as "the film" overtook "the novel."

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I need Harry potter spoilers (12)

1 Name: Bookworm : 2007-07-21 23:16 ID:WbHOMEFB

Yeah, I don't particulary like (or hate) HP, but I'm not interested in it either, however, a couple of HP fans are kind of starting to drive me nuts while they are waiting (and thay can't read english so they will be like 2 years either waiting for the spanish translation to roll out or learning english) for it so I'd like you people that are reading the book to dump some spoilers =)

3 Name: Bookworm : 2007-07-22 05:30 ID:DCx2lvj3

RON DIES.

4 Name: Bookworm : 2007-07-22 05:31 ID:DCx2lvj3

Just kidding, he doesn't die. I haven't read it yet.

5 Name: Bookworm : 2007-07-22 08:17 ID:IEQ3vvki

lol watch this video guys it's hilarioushttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iL5NltsDWX8&NR=1

6 Name: Bookworm : 2007-07-22 22:55 ID:KgM0YhfW

>>5
The first bit was crap, second one a bit better, but the frat-boy choking on his own tongue from laughter ruined the whole thing.
It reminds me of people who laugh at their own jokes, only this is worse because there isn't even anything remotely funny.

I give it my lowest rating; One (1) Dumbledore Corpse(s).

7 Name: dmpk2k!hinhT6kz2E : 2007-07-23 03:28 ID:Heaven

I like those guys already.

8 Name: Bookworm : 2007-07-23 04:23 ID:c6/OIogk

Hedwig, Snape, Mad-eye-Moody, Dobby, Fred, Lupin and his wife, Bellatrix Lestrange, and Voldemort die. Harry and Ginny get married and have three kids. Ron and Hermione get married and have two kids.

Read the Wikipedia article.

9 Name: Bookworm : 2007-07-24 10:08 ID:5Zb+NzB/

>>8
You could have at least worded it a little more interesting.

OMG HERMOINE AND GINNY GET PREGNANT!!!!

10 Name: Bookworm : 2007-08-13 07:00 ID:6bSvbX5E

Snape had the hots for Harry's mom since they were like 10.

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12 Name: Bookworm : 2016-11-08 19:04 ID:gj0y5aSF

This is somewhat relevant again.

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Worst Fan Fiction ever! (83)

1 Name: LongLiveRock : 2006-05-26 20:42 ID:mk+CYyQ4

http://www.fanfiction.net/s/2828044/1/

feel free to mock this author

74 Name: HeartBroken : 2008-11-26 12:46 ID:qEcTeULi

Eek I am a longtime fan of the epic "My Immortal", but when I went to read it again I found that it is no more?? Does anyone know where I can find it, or has anyone saved it? I might have to go listen to MCR and slit my wrists whilst dressed like Amy Lee if not.

75 Name: HeartBroken : 2008-11-28 00:27 ID:qEcTeULi

Fear not, it is here!

76 Name: HeartBroken : 2008-11-28 00:28 ID:qEcTeULi

77 Name: Bookworm : 2008-12-15 09:51 ID:ujFsYAV7

78 Name: Bookworm : 2008-12-15 15:05 ID:EfwwiKEE

>>77
I see no fanfic, except for http://4-ch.net/book/kareha.pl/1154120458/ which is epic.

79 Name: Cassandra : 2010-01-05 00:46 ID:KogyGJDF

http://www.fanfiction.net/s/985384/1/The_Legend_of_Zelda_The_Three_Heroes_of_Time
I wrote this back when I was 12... >_<
But at least being 12 makes it a valid excuse...
Hopefully.

To see how far I've come...
http://community.livejournal.com/rocket100/tag/giovannixseren%27s+fics

80 Name: Simmera : 2010-01-05 20:52 ID:H2j7y6yg

I found My Immortal yesterday and decided - after an extreme lapse in intelligence - that it couldn't be as bad as everyone thought, so I launched my own investigation.

Turns out, I was right...it's worse.

34 chapters in and I wish I had blown my brains out 33 chapters ago.

By the time you get towards the end, the first chapter actually seems well written...

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82 Name: Downward Spiral : 2010-07-29 21:58 ID:5bDh8DRh

O my fuckin god!

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LOTR (12)

1 Name: Bookworm : 2014-03-27 04:56 ID:T+AmmFo7

Best. Series. Ever.

Am I wrong?

3 Name: Bookworm : 2014-04-04 16:36 ID:4s39pJkD

>>2
I read it first in elementary school, then I reread it last year and realized how fucking awesome it actually is.

4 Name: Bookworm : 2014-05-10 02:23 ID:j6lGrkhW

Rereading the series. Just finished the second book. Agree with >>3.

5 Name: cockjizz : 2015-05-07 21:57 ID:U1Zx0DHz

>>1

Yes you are wrong. It was good, but definitely not the best. Still, it's a matter of opinion.

6 Name: cockjizz : 2015-05-07 21:57 ID:U1Zx0DHz

>>1

Yes you are wrong. It was good, but definitely not the best. Still, it's a matter of opinion.

7 Name: Bookworm : 2015-06-18 23:46 ID:EP43V4eR

I read The Hobbit and then LOTR when I was a teenager in the 80's. Some parts of the trilogy were really slow-going, and I didn't fully grasp everything, but still enjoyed it a lot. The Hobbit was completely enchanting, and I couldn't put that book down. I'd stay up late through the night to read it, over and over again.

But I also greatly enjoyed stories by Robert E. Howard (Kull, Conan), Moorcock (Hawkmoon, Elric), Lovecraft, various other pulp-era stuff that was later compiled into book format, and last but not least, the great Jules Verne.

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