I have just finished reading the third chapter of the book "Shutting Out the Sun" and I have some questions.
Do you know of any hikikomori in your area and, if you do, do you try and help them?
Would it seem unreasonable for hikikomori from the same area to help each other; form a group that just hangs out once a week to try and get out of the house or something?
I've noticed a few reclusive people here in Seattle and I was hoping to form a group like this to help, but I was wondering if there was some first hand experience at getting hikikomoris back into society.
Any information is appreciated.
well, dont ask pple here, because they are shut-ins themselves
>>2
Wrong.
>>1
I do not know of any persons one could really call hikkis around here, but I'm a sort of a borderline hikki myself. What I do is that I basically force myself to go out a bit, and I have some friends who are kind of like me too. It's pretty much like the sort of group you describe, just more preventive - no one of us really is a shut-in, but each of us could probably become one. I believe that this can in fact work pretty well.
From my experience, if you get a few people together for this, that would already be a first step, and if you go out and do that regularily, then you've basically done it, the rest will work out. I've become a lot more open and social through all of this.
1, This should be in personal.
>and I have some friends who are kind of like me too
2, How did you meet them?
i'm not the same anonymous, but in my case, i met them through the internet.
real hikkis don't work.
Based on what I've seen, calling yourself a hikikomori is just a desperate attempt to latch onto Japanese society by claiming yourself to be a part of a group that, for all intents and purposes, was created by a hybrid of economic hardships (yes, Japan isn't the wonderfully prosperous place you may think it to be) in Japan after the 1980's and the bizarre inner-workings of Japan's social structure.
So, unless you were directly affected by these problems (thus making you native Japanese), don't call yourself a damn hikikomori. You are not a hikikomori. Besides, if you were, you would most likely not be on the Internet... you wouldn't be socializing at all. You also would not have a job; you would strictly be relying on your parents or other caretakers fully.
You are introverted, you are a shut-in. You are not a hikikomori; there is a difference great enough to leave the term "hikikomori" itself untranslatable.
Fwah.
Come on,
Where are Hikkis supposed to socialize if it isn't the net?
Hikkis live on the net. Their Computers are their lives.
And while technically, it may be considered false to call a non-Japanese NEET who has no friends and stays in his/her room all day a hikikomori, I think it's permissable, especially since the phenomenon is not unique to Japan, but most modern, post-industrial nations, although its symptoms are probably more easily cultivated in Japan's particular, non-confrontational culture.
>>9
Have you ever been to Japan before? How do you know for sure that Japan's culture is as what you say it is?
Residents,
I show to you the result of the potrayal of Japanese culture in the media which have made NAt0V and people like him to generalise Japan's culture merely by watching it on TV or hearsay rather than by finding out the real truth by actually going there or at the very least talking to people who have lived there.
Causes of hikikomori are pessimism and shortage of social skills;especially communication. And not small of them seem to be depressive.
Sorry if I oversimplified, but if you read reports that cover specific instances of Hikikomori in Japan, Japanese psychiatrists are less likely to recommend confronting hikkis or forcing them to find jobs/schools then American shrinks/social workers, who in some instances, recommend "knocking down the door".
Japanese social workers and shrinks are more likely to recommend that the parents wait for the Hikikomori to come out on their own accord.
Sorry, but it's a well known fact that having a hikki for a son is a pretty nasty social stigma. It becomes in the family's best interest to hide the fact and hope the son/daughter recovers on their own before seeking professional assistance.
they can help themselves, if u cut off their food supply and money from outsides sources (aka parents and etc.), and unless theyre prepared, to literally starve to death, which i doubt most are, then it seems plausible for them to get outta it (hahaha theory from Welcome to the NHK! validity, is, questionable)
I could help myself, but my case wasn't as bad as some other people.
Correction:
Hikis need a reason or be forced to come out. If you just let them live like they are, nothing will happen, they'll just keep living in their rooms and waste their life.
tbh I'm a real one, but i was a normal person in school fairly popular with friends and plenty of girl friends no reason to be depressed or hate the outside, one day I found myself droped out, playing online games, living off my parents at age 21 and not doing anything with my life not leaving my home for 6 months at a time probably more, I have tried working but I would go into fits of depression and quit. Now I feel like I don't have anything left at all, I tried to over come it but it feels like nobody is there to help, just critize. If it was as easy as just go out side or get a job I wouldn't be one... I also never had a traumatic experience so I really do beleive it is a mental disorder. Since i don't have anything left(self inflicted) and I don't really care about or like myself I would literatly let myself starve to death if cut offinfact i wish she would. The only reason I'm even still around I soley because I had hope to over come this, but everyday I find myself closer to ending this grabage of a life I have created for myself. The way I see it the true meaning of hikikomori or shut-in or what ever name you want to call it is self sabotage.
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Nah... i have to comment on this issue.... i think im a hikkikomori.(Just to share). I spend half of my day sleeping. And then i woke up at abt 2 am to watch anime/ play online games. I have friends... just a few of them. Im at my age 17. Also experienced bullying at school. (This i think is the main cause). And i always think alot, primarily when dealing with others. Stuff like, will they accept/like me? Im just unnartural when dealing w/ people. Hmmmmm. I really try to overcome this but never progresses. Geez, im so sad. It feels like imma stock in this room forever.
You know what, I guess I`ve been a bit of a Hikikomori, but I really want to get out of this shithole man.
I AM A HIKIMIKORI TOO GUYS.
My brother is somewhat hikikomori - he avoid any unnesessary contact with strangers.
He'll turn 26 this year and he got no social life at all. No friends only some mail-talk during internet auctions.
We as a familly are very tired of him, and waiting till he walks on his own is bull - when we pushed him he walked more on his own and was happier. Now he got issues to go even for cigaretes to kiosk - it takes about 8 minutes and now he avoid it.
ITT people with friends and jobs/school think they are hikikomori because they spend a lot of time alone in their room and have otaku hobbies.
Being hikikomori is so sugoi, it's like I'm really Japanese! ^__^
He's not anime nor manga fan, lol, just because you call it from japanese dissease, it doesn't mean that only japanese ppl/otaku's are hikikomori.
"Being hikikomori is so sugoi, it's like I'm really Japanese! ^__^" -so... all japs kill them selves with suicidal aircraft attacks? and they still fight with katanas and pay with bags of rice? um, nope :|
>-so... all japs kill them selves with suicidal aircraft attacks? and they still fight with katanas and pay with bags of rice? um, nope :|
what
Hikikomori or not, but I just don't like humans. I see people as lobsters with knives. To me all those "we love you, come drink tea with us and sing songs of the days past" fucktards are furiating. And why I don't like people? Because most people are complete tools without decency to hide their moronic opinions. If somebody is happy with what s/he does as long as it doesn't hurt or interfere with anybody else's privacy, then I'm cool with it. What puzzles me is that why most people don't think like this.
> If somebody is happy with what s/he does as long as it doesn't hurt or interfere with anybody else's privacy, then I'm cool with it. What puzzles me is that why most people don't think like this.
Why are you irritated by their thoughts, if they don't interfere with your privacy?
Like I said, I don't care what people do or think if they leave others alone. Clearly there is a conflict in this with people who get off by ringing my doorbell 8 AM on Saturday morning. I have a bit of a problem expressing my thought by writing, so I'll try to put it simply:
If people believe in Martians, I'm fine with that. But I get angry if they start making laws that everyone must attend to extraterrestrial education or come raping my frontdoor, selling tinfoilhats. I don't push MY beliefs to my neighbors, so why can't they return the favor?
It is disturbing to my demeanor.
>>27
You could always hang outside your door a sign that says "No salesmen" or something of that kind, or leave your current residence for a more isolated area. I had found the light when I built a room in the woods just for myself - of course now I live with my parents again. I wasn't self-sufficient enough to live alone.
Unfortunately I don't think that moving to a completely desolated area is an option for me. I guess my fault has been that I've expected others to respect my privacy as a default.
Another annoying thing is that some idiots decide to ignore all signs and posts. I've had this "No advertisements or free distributions" in my [physical] mailbox for a while now and though it has reduced the amount of spam, it hasn't stopped it. Today I attached an even bigger plate stating the same request, but with bigger print. Makes me wonder if the mailman is retarded or something. Luckily the telemarketing deny I've made has cut off those bastards off.