Sup
Genuine aspie here. Properly diagnosed, member of a regular AS support group, and frequent vistor to DQN, altough i seldom post. I'd offer to answer quetions, but anonimity prevents this.
>>46
Why not just use Tor if you're worried about IP address? Or alternatively / auxiliarly, mask the names
I found a finals paper regarding Hikikomoris. Damned interesting reading, figured you people might want to have a look too:
http://towakudai.blogs.com/Hikikomori.Research.Survey.pdf
I was diagnosed with Asperger's syndrome, but I don't believe it. Having been diagnosed with like 52 different things in my childhood, I have little patience left for so-called "mental health professionals", who I suspect find problems where none exist so they can make money selling the solution.
>>48
what about girls? Since I am handsome girls are going mad when
then met me. they have no idea what I AM. you know girls have
stereotypes about men's behavior and about men in general
but when it comes to me none of their ideas works. lol
nothing of the kind.
I think that people with Aspergers are soon should take over the earth. because we ARE superior. too bad I have not found a girl with asperger yet...
Just a little advice to a people with Asperger.
you should start drawing or any kind of occupation that involves
creativity. it can help you to understand yourself. it helped me a lot.
second, you should get yourself free from the bounds of family.
for us such primitive things like (Family,friendship etc) are useless. because we are have the ability to see things in their
real form.
also if you a handsome person you can pursuit an actor career. lol
actors are happened to be a empty people who live in parallel universe lol, a life in the fiction. some otakus are the same.
but they lack very important things, so they can not be actors.
half super bitch and half mega cunt.
>>53
Everyone is an actor. Most people just play one part.
>>51
Girls find me cute at first. As they get to know me, they start to find me annoying. The longest relationships I've had have ended after two years or so.
>>52 I do just that. I'm a freelance artist, so I can stay home and work when I feel like it.
It gets easier to cope with once you realize that fucking isn't such a big deal after all.
But if all I was interested in was fucking, I wouldn't care if girls got tired of me after a while, now would I?
Actually, you will. After all the effort put into landing a compatible fuck buddy, you end up feeling way too attached to them to just let it go later on.
>>25
LOL that reminded me something -_-"
Oh I was already a computer geek when I got into mmorpgs but man THAT made things a bit worse LOL.... (then I discovered anime too and became unrecoverable..)
>>33
..I pissed through the window a couple times to avoid leaving the room so I qualify as a true hiki :))
so guys, I just read the entire wikipedia entry on Asperger's syndrome.
Pretty sure I don't have it because my motor skills as fine, lol.
That should have been "are fine"
Irony.
>..I pissed through the window a couple times to avoid leaving the room so I qualify as a true hiki :))
lmao
I have a friend that's destined to be a hiki. Just got out of high school a few months ago, has zero plans for a job or college and will avoid them as much as he possibly can.
He's not exactly shy, but he absolutely hates having to go outside or do anything.
i used to be like that also, after i met few outgoing friends, it change me compleatly. now stay in my room for too long can made my mood down.
>>65
1) always go out with friends
2) having some friends that are different than you
3) Open your mind
I see your true colours, shining through.
I see your true colours, and that's why I love you.
So don't be afraid, to let them show,
Your true colours, true colours,
Beautiful, like a rainbow.
;_; ~ A Song for the Hikkikomoris ~ Absent but not forgotten ~
Two minutes silence please.
(,-.-)
>>69
lol
>..I pissed through the window a couple times to avoid leaving the room so I qualify as a true hiki :))
I've done it on the carpet when I was five or so. Only time recently was when I was in the garage and did it in teh drain pipe for the water coming out of the washer.
I'm a hikikomori, and have been for almost 25 years now. It definitely is a syndrome which stands onto itself, it is a separate thing which you might catch under social anxiety and such, but it really is and should be a separate diagnosis.
In the first years your loneliness and isolation are unbearable. Then, years on, the unacceptable gradually becomes the norm. Then, slowy, after many years, you start to outgrow it and become a more voluntary hermit.
For me, childhood abuse on many levels and years of being bullied without mercy have brought it on for the most part. Hikikomori isn't autism, not even close. Autists (bless them) are born different, Hikikomori however are made (or rather: broken) by outside influences.
Autists are different by their nature and thus will forever be autistic, but can learn to cope. Hikikomori have the blessing that they can heal, but have the curse that they were broken, shattered to pieces from the whole person they once were.
If there are any fellow Hikikomori out here: bless you. Be true to your nature, and try to have faith that one day life will feel good again. Do not let yourself be forced too much by the outside world, but also do not get too comfortable in the cocoon you live in.
Be yourself, and be true to yourself. Like most hikikomori you will probably in several months or years overcome this, and if you do not succeed, you will eventually overcome the despair and pain itself.
Know that somewhere in that frightening, threatening outside world, there on a safe distance is a fellow hikikomori who sheds a tear for your anonymous sorrow, and wishes you well with all his heart.
Know that despite your isolation - you are not alone.
Add schizoid personality disorder to the list of reasons people wont go out
I've been told I had "signs of schizoid" by a social worker. I took it as an insult and stopped seeing her. I don't think I am. I'm extremely introverted which I know and I've resigned myself to some facts about the way that my social life will always be, but I still don't think that the symptoms accurately describe me. I don't "not want" relationships, I've come to terms with the fact that I suck at initiating them, and I'll take them as they come and go.
Also, I love to leave the house so long as I don't have to deal with people! I think another factor is that I'm an absolute perfectionist and I consider almost everyone I meet to be a moron. Granted, a good portion of them are, but I tend to judge people in that regard too quickly, and hold others to the same standards to which I hold myself. Paradoxically I feel no shame when I fail to meet my own standards. Just anger with myself followed by forced practice of whatever skill I have failed to execute to my standard.
I'm hikikomori, but my mother would kick me out if I didn't go to school. I end up going to a quiet place in city library to stay until I can go home, school just expects too much of me and...
At one point I really really wanted to finish school, but I tried my hardest and it wasn't good enough. Society looks down on my type, so even if I try my hardest, the school would not care, and they don't.
I spend nearly every minute awake somewhere isolated with a PC or books. Even so, this lifestyle is unbearable, but there's nothing I can do to fix my life.
I just recently found out about hikis. I guess I am one somewhat. I want to be a social person, and have good friends, but past experiences which I am unable to get over (hah, weak faget :P) hinder me from doing so.
I only leave to go to college. I'd be kicked out and unable to support myself if I just stayed in my room ALL the time.
I've been diagnosed with Aspergers, but reckon I have SPD (schizoid) because I'm so lethargic and uninterested in social contest.
And no, I'm not some Myers-Brigg fanboy but every point of the diagnostic criteria fits me like a glove (aside from the asexuality thing).
Oh yeah, and I'm 16, still live with my parents etc. so I don't have to piss out the window or shit in a bag yet. The "live in your room" thing I couldn't do; I need to walk/jog around the house a lot. And I have a perfectly good relationship with my family.
Was I the only who noticied >>25 said, I have escaped the addiction by realizing the pointlessness of MMORPG, and moved onto playing WoW.
...
I'm hikikomori.
I hate myself.
>>80 on the right track I see.
The doctor who gave me the diagnosis Asperger must have lied.
On the paper I got it sounded like having a asocial personality alone would make me an Aspergers person.
sidenote: I've been diagnosed with ADHD in the past but i think this is wholly different case.
>>74
Holden?
I have something like Hikikomori, I spend alot of time on the computer, and I don't want to leave, but when I do, I enjoy being with others, but I really don't say much, I just listen to the conversation, etc. I'm socially awkward and such.
I hate the outside world.
I've been in hikikomori for more then 4 years, and I'm to the point where I don't want to go be with the world.
As long as I'm fed and I have an Internet connection I'm happy.
Lucky for you.
But my parents i think will kick me out one day.
Beneath them i don't know a single person.
So starving and/or freezing to death is most the probably thing to happen for me :(
Let's all get our money together and buy an island. All of us Hikikomori can live there in peace.
It's better than living in the streets after our parents finally kick us out.
not aspergers or autistic, sorry. hikikomori, definitely. i agree about the hikki island lol.
>>73 made me cry
I have to repeat another year of school because I broke down and couldn't take it, but I think it's getting worse... Already I can't sleep at night because I have negative suicidal thoughts and I feel awkward around people and feel averse to going out of the house. I wasn't even this bad a year ago - I had normal dreams of going to uni with cool people and getting a job and all, but now I don't even think I can get into a technical school. It's like Satou from NHK ni Youkoso said, "I'd kill myself but I'm too lazy to - I just don't want to do anything".
So chalk that up as a hikki-in-training?
Definitely not aspergers or autistic though - I know someone who is and it's a different kettle of fish
My uncle has been hikkomori for 30 years. He's over 50.
The good news is that he's taking care of my aging grandfather. The bad news is that my grandfather really doesn't have anyone else to talk to besides him, and he's kind of a downer.
I've been a hikikomori for 6 years now.
Junior high and highschool drove me insane.I tried to kill myself, that didn't work. So one day I just locked my self in my room.My parents have tried everything to get me to come out, but they don't understand. They knew I was tortured in school,but told me to deal with it.I have only came out during the day twice since then.I only leave my house[my parents kicked me out and got me a apartment for myself] Once a week for food at night.
I hate myself more then anything. I wish I could be normal.
But in these years, I have learned english, so it's not all too bad.
But the lonelyness gets to you. Sometimes I lay on my floor and cry for hours, even though I don't even want to talk to anyone.
But I met a fellow hikikomori on mixi, and we share the same intrests, so maybe one day we will meet.
Sorry for the BAWWWWing. Haha.
Hopefully, one day I can leave the house without having a panic attack.
Tortured by the teachers, other students, gym coaches, or all three?
Not a hik myself, by nature of recognizing being far from home as a virtue. School sucked for me, though I found that as time progressed, idiots became rarer. As a freshman in high school, I was a marked man. By the time I was a senior, I was friends with some of the people who made fun of me early on.
How bad does it have to get before you go into hiding?
>>94
You have to love yourself, everything starts from there.
I recommend reading one chapter of Thus Spoke Zarathustra every day (one chapter has about 3 small pages) and thinking about it for a while.
Volunatary hermit here.
You're all a bunch of bawwwing faggots.
Hikkikomoris are constructs of Japanese culture. Social anxiety disorder is real, but I figure Hikkikomori = SocAnxDis + (Japanese culture + rapid modernization + changing expectations due to globalization).
It may actually be transitory, and may actually disappear as Japan sorts out its social issues and reconciles its culture with global society.
I originally dropped out of highschool and became a shut in for 1 1/2 years because of social anxiety and perfectionism... I thought I was too stupid to pass, which is funny considering I (like most of you) was in gifted classes at one point, and also always finished my tests first while getting A's on them, before I dropped out anyway. I'm suspecting Asperger's as well, but that's usually a scapegoat for just calling yourself a nerd.
People keep telling me on here that I'm just like them. Am I some sort of living stereotype for this thing?
>>101
People often tell me things like that. In that respect you're a lot like me.
The thing is, i hate going out. I have no joy in social encounters like drinking with someone or going to the movies or whatever.i feel so empty. YET when i'm watching an anime or movie where the people have fun and do activities i can actually FEEL that JOY..which is so wierd. In real life, i'm emotioneless and in the dreamworld i'm so happy.
If i want to go cry i have to put a moviescene or something like that to express myself.
I'm a shutin* by choice, and honestly..if i had enough money to continue this way i would.
I don't feel joy while watching TV or hanging out with friends, most of the time. Not even anime, or video games. And I'm not a shut-in. I grind daily for no reason.
So if you have something in your life that brings joy, at least you have something.
>>104 Yeah you got a point, hope you find that something*
You grind? What, like, on rails and stuff?
Doesn't grinding usually entail killing huge numbers of monsters in the same area in order to gain XP and thus level up your character?
Well, if he's not a shut-in and he gets outside... I'd like to know the area in which he finds all these monsters. I thought I saw one at the supermarket last week, but it just turned out to be a black man with elephantiasis.
im sure hes referring to the daily grind of life, but maybe...
He should learn to speak like an internetter.
I am a hikikomori and I live in Europe, are there any more out there?
There needs to be a hiki board like the 2ch one, but for people who speak English
No, no there doesn't.
>>112
There already is
http://www.anonib.com/hikki/
I don't think I'm a hiki,but I have some social problems,I'm afraid to speak and only have two "pseudo-friends" that I meet ocasionaly.During recess I stay at the classroom and read.My school is very big and has a bunch of students so I don't get bullied,but I know that I'm not the only one like that,even at my school there are a bunch of people withthis pathology.I don't know if any of you guys agree with me,but I think the world is becoming a lonely place.FOR EVERYONE.i'm brazilian by the way.
>>118
It's true! And humans are doomed to despair!
Satan have won!
I know a hikikomori but, he has disconected for msn and is withdrawing form society, its sad because i can't do anything.
>>99
It sounds like I'm where you were 1 1/2 years ago. Any advice?
>>123
Pull through, get to college, and become a math major.
I was diagnosed with Asperger's five years ago. All my free time is spent in front of the computer, as well as some of my non-free time (I'm typing this from school). I've never been a very social person, but I've never considered actually dropping out of school or any of that, and I do, in fact, want to make friends and such. You can say that I want to avoid the shut-in lifestyle at all costs, though I'm not very good at it.
I have Asperger's, but im not exactly a hikkimori. I do identify with hating the mainstream faggots though
I've got the 'pergs =\ I dig it though. I think we're kinda cool. I mean come on, an ailment that makes you awkward and goofy? Bring it on!
Seriously though, is it just me or is there a high concentration of users of the *chan boards with aspergers of some variation? They reckon aspergers could be the next evolutionary step y'know... and we're all gathered... >_> BURN DOWN THE PARLIAMENT!
yes we all have asperger's this has been established now everyone get back to reading your technical book of choice
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My psychiatrst claims I used to have Aspergers, but now it's mutated into another form of autism spectrum disorder. I suspect he's just saying that to be original.
Also, what's with my vericode being "skode" for the third time in two days?
I have nothing and no excuses.
I wish I did. щ(ﾟДﾟщ)
Also, my captcha is "thug," how cool is that?
Few years ago I got diagnosed with "a mild case of Aspergers" after filling in a questionnaire. A fucking questionnaire.
Is it wrong for me to be sceptical about the whole thing? Seems like the least consistent disorder in the world as well.
Somehow I feel all of the all three diagnosis are in "vogue" these days. A real hikki wouldn't leave say the room / house which if you live in the usa is impossible to pull off, since nobodys parents are willing to cowtow to their kids here like that.
I live in America and would like to have a foster hikki :3 I have a room for you/internet. Can even hook you up with all the things you need. Meals can be prepared and brought to your door. Let me know if you're interested.
yea the people with the No Life are so repulse!
I feel great sense of inner cleansing must be done when i witness the state of their home in the tv shows that our shown in Japan show when i go there! &_&
who are they thinking their life is?
Do they Are be of think that Life is a perceptorial componiment that is malleable very highly, and that fiction and the reality as sinonumous?? BU BU!!! >*<
They are vary krazy!! They shud go out like filip me to sean paul show, he has pecs and the life, also there are the artists who taek the life deeper! They are all living life!! If you sit in the home then obv your entiar brain shuts down and becomes non kommunicative! I know this because i have never tried being apahrt from before the soecity in my Life!!
Wow girl, feel me! This is the LIFE!!
He is just rubbing off on the bed and simulating sexual activity as me practiced and my kin! We LIVE it, yes yeah? We LIVE a preconcepted simimmimimulation la, whereas they take the indilgence as da Sepirate thing that it is from life!
Dey are so kookoo! Seeing liyf as intrinsic (BLING BLING WOOD UP SNOOPY SNOD! Soz just a shout out to girls, oh andd i am deep too, i can lift 200k! but am smart too i will tock about to you the Shakes Peare :)) rather than instrumental dey are BONKAHS!!!! LA!!!!
Wow i am a god!!! Yes and too also I speak the English did you know with the familiarity of your MIND!! Live the life with your greasy sock of a brilliant heart! Go forth with the tundrum velocity of tabletop goods and use mind well to carve life out like a Pinnochio! Also, make sure a life is created by skill!! :-)
Never forgat a bunch of things and have a poo on The MccArtney Paul's face because Anger is ME >-( RAAAA!!
o shitty here visits a hikikomori wiht a knife he is so WRONG and FUCKED!!! WHY????? COLLECTIVE CONSCIOUS.
Yes yoody friends ok the byes!! Grow a Facial Hair.
> I speak the English
NO
>>136 made little to no sense.
Hi
>>138
At least he didn't say anything about how he doesn't our future.r
What
using google translator(or any online translator) does not automatically make the text readable another language
oh wow, always nice to see other hikikomori, there's some comfort in knowing there's millions of other people just like myself.
I've been at this since high school, 8 years now, almost.
I'm 143... just saying that I'm not in Japan. I'm in the US. The "hikikomori" thing just isn't a Japanese thing, there's a lot of people like this all around the world.
There seems to be elements touting "hikkikomori" as a glorified social label or trophy of reclusiveness. If anyone out there still holds the belief that "it's hip to be NEET", you're wrong. A fear of the demands of society to the point of totally withdrawing from the object of the fear in question shouldn't be diagnosed as any bullshit label an $30 an hour "psychiatrist" can come up with.