>>13 How long did you take? If it took you a few weeks and the girl gave up on you, it's more her fault than yours. If it took you months upon months it's understandable, but I still don't think the "friendzone" has anything to do with it. If she still liked you the way she may have back then, and didn't have another relationship, she would say yes. If she wouldn't date you after a few months, what makes you think the relationship would have lasted as long as it took you to ask in the first place?

Of course there is a limit to how long a girl will wait for you, but I don't understand how that is "the friendzone." If she's stopped waiting for you, she probably doesn't like you anymore (or never did).

Like I said, you shouldn't be sitting here worried about the friendzone on 4-ch. You should be out spending time with the girl you like and waiting for that right moment to come along when you can tell her how you feel about her etc. There's a difference between finding the right moment and waiting because you're too scared. And either way, the friendzone has nothing to do with it. If you're in the friendzone, it's because you did something wrong (if there was ever a chance in the first place). I just want people to stop acting like the friendzone is what caused them to lose their chances, when it is something they did that caused them to be in the friendzone, whether it was their appearance, personality, habits, or just waiting too long to ask. Time CAN be a factor, but I really don't think it can be the ONLY factor. If you maintain a close relationship with a girl, you should still have a chance with her as long as she doesn't get into a bunch of other relationships. However, if you stay in your room alone all day thinking about how you're going to tell her how you feel instead of actually being with her, there's your mistake right there.