Gentlemen, we build das Übermensch (71)

1 Name: Anonymous Scientist : 2008-05-23 03:13 ID:eJXpB+cV

Alright guys, let's do this. What does it take to build the greatest possible human being?

2 Name: Anonymous Scientist : 2008-05-23 03:17 ID:eJXpB+cV

Also, I don't mean Nietzsche's view of a super human being (not sure if it is scientific at all, not much of a philosophy guy myself), but rather just a mother-fucking excellent specimen of a human being.

3 Name: Nietzsche : 2008-05-23 03:46 ID:lnJAkPOv

Show me the meaning of the Übermensch and I will show you the meaning of the Earth!

4 Name: Anonymous Scientist : 2008-05-23 04:08 ID:eJXpB+cV

This man: http://spokaneteamfortress.com/hosted/tf2_medic.jpg

Jokes aside, we're creating a super-human here, both a genius polymath and possessing Spartan strength and resolve.

To create this person, we'll have to start in the womb, when the child is first conceived. What role does race play in creating a genius? An athlete? What about gender? I know eating fish has something to do with increasing intelligence, but what else can increase the abilities of the child?

After the child is born, what steps must be taken during it's infancy? A healthy family is a must, but do those Baby Mozart programs or other baby geniuses programs work (probably not)? Or perhaps, are certain toys more prone to developing key things in the child's mind? Is a child who hears both Chinese and English in some way able to understand things better as he gets older?

As the child gains language, how much should he learn as a child? What should he learn as a child? Music, language, science? What experiences are best experienced as a child in order not to disturb the mental state of the developing genius? Death perhaps? A situation where it feels it has something to prove in life (like Freud)?

What about their formal education? Should the child be an autodidact and be guided by its interests, or should it receive
a normal education with other students? If its an autodidact, would it be wise to solve the criticism of home schooled children by enrolling him in a martial-arts class? Which one would be the best?

For that matter, how should it develop physically? What should it have been eating all these years to develop a powerful build and genius brain? How much is too much for a youth to handle? When it comes to the age of romance, do you allow it to pursue the romance it desires or do you have it pursue a more victorian-styled romance?

Where do we go from there? Where do we let it progress on its own?

So many questions, and I'd like answers. Perhaps the kid needs to be a Chinese Jew- nothing is sacred!

5 Name: Anonymous Scientist : 2008-05-23 04:23 ID:Heaven

Go read Vitruvius and Plato's Republic. Adjust the quantities of each quality their ideal philosopher/architect should possess. Profit.

6 Name: Anonymous Scientist : 2008-05-23 05:11 ID:eJXpB+cV

>>5
Here's the thing, while that can be applied, some people could apply it better than others due to genetics or how they were raised.

7 Name: Anonymous Scientist : 2008-05-23 07:07 ID:LFkmUyUF

Well, here's at least one set of mistakes to learn from:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/William_James_Sidis

8 Name: Anonymous Scientist : 2008-05-23 11:38 ID:VokdV2L6

What set of goals/ethics does the Ubermensch subscribe to? Or does he make his own and raise a new civilisation founded on them in true Nietzschean style?

9 Name: Anonymous Scientist : 2008-05-23 19:22 ID:oUZuSsM+

>>6
Those pretty much outline the upbringing of a child from birth. Genetics are negligible if you're Greek Roman, obviously.

10 Name: Anonymous Scientist : 2008-05-23 20:25 ID:4f48oYo2

Create an individual who is driven, who doesn't suffer from the affliction of laziness.

An average person can be an amazing person if they don't waste their time. It's just that the natural state of the human animal is laziness.

11 Name: Anonymous Scientist : 2008-05-24 00:51 ID:cntoTipv

http://www.janeelliott.com/

The brown eyes/blue eyes experiment suggests to me that one of the most significant factors in creating a prodigy is convincing that prodigy he or she is hot shit.

12 Name: Anonymous Scientist : 2008-05-26 00:31 ID:ylYiBsgm

The greatest possible human being is... not human.

13 Name: Anonymous Scientist : 2008-05-26 18:18 ID:lnJAkPOv

>>12
I disagree. The greatest possible human being is MORE HUMAN THAN HUMAN.

DER NER NER NER NERRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRR

14 Name: Anonymous Scientist : 2008-05-26 20:04 ID:Heaven

I'm going to build a Metamensch

15 Name: Anonymous Scientist : 2008-06-02 23:48 ID:n5OhbAHD

>>10 well, thats me fucked then.

16 Name: Anonymous Scientist : 2008-06-08 12:22 ID:bxSwp2as

To create THE ÜBERMENSCH, you start by fixing all the crap that is wrong with the human body. We can get sick, we're fucking fragile, and we just die after living for a while - seriously, we're freaking windows vista.

17 Name: Anonymous Scientist : 2008-06-10 13:20 ID:Heaven

Why is the oesaphagus right next to the trachea? It makes it so easy to choke!

18 Name: Anonymous Scientologist : 2008-06-23 10:45 ID:Heaven

>>17

Because choking was a common means of communication among early chimps! Jeez.

19 Name: Anonymous Scientist : 2008-06-27 23:44 ID:MZOl4SQz

>> 18

I see.....

20 Name: Anonymous Scientist : 2008-06-30 13:35 ID:Heaven

>>18
It's still annoying, today! We need to fix that in our ÜBERMENSCH 2.0.

21 Name: Anonymous Scientist : 2008-07-01 17:11 ID:IVzHrwbw

>>20
And ÜBERMENSCH 2.0 would be.....???

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