Tech @4-ch

Tech @4-ch

Technology, computers and gadgets are the point of discussion.
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1: Albright Builds a Computer (30) 2: [HELP] Single questions & Help Thread [n00b] (357) 3: How do I access a server via ssh? How do I publish a website? Help me, please! (2) 4: kek support (3) 5: i am not good with computer... (4) 6: Fuck GNU (3) 7: [Help/Support] Old Macintosh Networking (11) 8: Error Cannot Copy <filename> Invalid MS-DOS function (47) 9: future of piracy (48) 10: THE FUTURE OF TEXTBOARDS, IN !! (3) 11: Bittorrent (32) 12: isn't he aggro (4) 13: turbo button (21) 14: Tor (7) 15: ITT, we try out Ubuntu Christian Edition (8) 16: Removing Ads from Xfire (7) 17: Trolls (14) 18: Hibernate settings/options (2) 19: Ebay ISSSUES (9) 20: Intel fakes playing a game demo when it's actually a pre-recorded video. (2) 21: I fucking hate my ISP (23) 22: Wow, this place isn't nearly as busy as it used to be... (23) 23: true color animated images? (16) 24: bold or italic on these boards? (5) 25: want to start usung linux based os (2) 26: Sankaku Complex down? (5) 27: Integrated in-car personal computer components, Suggestions please!!! (5) 28: Why aren't you using SadOS? (11) 29: No Internet, Only College (11) 30: Can any of you help out with this Linux distro? (8) 31: help topics for tips channel on youtube (3) 32: AMD INSIDE IDIOT OUTSIDE (4) 33: People are really fucking stupid when it comes to technology. (6) 34: How can cropping images make the file bigger?!? (7) 35: How will the failure of net neutrality effect online gaming? (4) 36: TRON project as original and newest OSs, Specifications and Concepts (68) 37: How does one download Wikipedia for offile reading, in Linux? (4) 38: learning through direct download? (4) 39: Chroms forking of Webkit, without the bullshit. (4) 40: Search Revolution (1)

Albright Builds a Computer (30)

1 Name: Albright!LC/IWhc3yc : 2006-06-25 06:19 ID:erMTJ0cy

ITT Albright talks about his experience building a computer. I'm sure some of you folks (like one of my college roommates) are already well-familiar with the process and could do it in your sleep, in which case you'll probably get no more amusement out of this thread besides whatever humor could be extracted from the accounts of my mistakes. So the purpose of this thread is to give an account of this experience for those who have not done so, but are considering doing it for the first time, as I did.

In college, I got an English degree. Just a bit of advice to anyone working or planning to work toward an English degree: Reconsider. A degree in basket weaving would be more practical, as many people are willing to pay for baskets. Not so many (in America, at least) are willing to pay for English.

While in college, I worked part-time for three years doing tech support for the school's computer labs. Since doing anything with the English degree didn't pan out, I thought going back into the tech field would be nice, but it turns out I'm unqualified (at least on paper) for any "real" tech jobs. So I decided to work toward getting a certification called A+ Core. This covers a lot of info on the workings of standard PC hardware and software; some common, some rather esoteric and/or antiquated. Anyway, many of the sources I saw about the test recommended having a computer we could take apart and examine whilst studying. That, combined with my desire to have a PVR but disgust at monthly rates TiVo and its ilk charge (I didn't need to pay a monthly rate to program my damned VCR!), led me to the decision that it was time to build my first computer.

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21 Name: 4n0n4ym0u5 h4xx0r : 2006-07-07 00:35 ID:yOHywSHf

I liked gnome1. Gnome2 just feels too...glossy, also it's slow like kde. Main thing annoyed me about kde is the toolbars were really loose and jumps to the next line too easily and the default skin is awwful.

22 Name: Redhatter : 2006-07-07 01:58 ID:Heaven

I can remember Gnome 1.x... it was the shiny new desktop that came with Red Hat 6.0...

Complete with the first version of Enlightenment.

I used it for a while at first, but ended up moving back to KDE (1.x IIRC)... Gnome/Enlightenment just wasn't my style in the end.

23 Name: 4n0n4ym0u5 h4xx0r : 2006-11-09 21:19 ID:zs+iN7ye

No one's taking your thread seriously because no one cares. You spent hours typing that up but we all know what a micro ATX case is.

24 Name: Redhatter : 2006-11-10 01:54 ID:Heaven

>>23... And you needlessly bumped this thread, instead of letting it naturally sink to the bottom.

Well done! claps sarcastically

25 Name: 4n0n4ym0u5 h4xx0r : 2006-11-13 04:06 ID:Heaven

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     |Д`)   No one is here.
     |⊂     I can dance now !

     ♪  ☆
   ♪   / \    RANTA TAN
      ヽ(´Д`;)ノ   RANTA TAN
         (  へ)    RANTA RANTA
          く       TAN

   ♪    ☆
     ♪ / \   RANTA RANTA
      ヽ(;´Д`)ノ  RANTA TAN
         (へ  )    RANTA TANTA

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26 Name: 4n0n4ym0u5 h4xx0r : 2006-11-13 06:04 ID:Heaven

>>25 is encouraging someone to needlessly bump this thread, instead of letting it naturally sink to the bottom! What a troublemaker...

27 Name: Redhatter : 2006-11-14 12:56 ID:Heaven

Warning message: Your dancing/singing is worse than it may appear ;-)

28 Name: 4n0n4ym0u5 h4xx0r : 2006-11-23 19:06 ID:38u9os6+

29 Name: 4n0n4ym0u5 h4xx0r : 2006-11-24 23:46 ID:Heaven

Hi, everybody. I am >>28's cell phone. Nice to meet you.
I am writing this message via Imode.
My owner did a stupid thing again. He has bumped this thread.
I have to apologize to you guys for him. I really mean it.

30 Name: Andrew : 2018-09-29 15:30 ID:D4RW86aG

bump lmao

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[HELP] Single questions & Help Thread [n00b] (357)

1 Name: CyB3r h4xX0r g33k 2005-09-05 20:53 ID:KxkIsG20

If you have a single (or some more) question regarding any of the tech topics of this board and feel that it wouldn't justify creating an own thread just for that, feel free to post it in here.

If you know the answer to any of the questions in this thread, please help us out here! I am sure it's going to be appreciated.

I am creating this thread since there's ben popping up too many threads lately with single questions asking for help that aren't really set out to create too much interest.

348 Name: 4n0n4ym0u5 h4xx0r : 2012-08-28 15:38 ID:HH6HeEdn

I use Debian wheezy and the official Firefox binaries.

Just go to the Firefox website and hit the download button. It'll give you a .tar.bz2 with firefox/ inside. Extract that somewhere you have read/write access to--I used /opt/firefox/. After that, add that directory to your $PATH (e.g. open up ~/.profile and add something like PATH="/opt/firefox:$PATH"). Firefox's own updater should be able to update the software with no problems. Setting up any sort of desktop or menu shortcut shouldn't be difficult, just set it to run firefox (or the full pathname) and to use the icon in the firefox/icons/ directory.

Admittedly, it's not the best solution, but it works and ensures you get timely updates straight from Mozilla, with all the dependencies included. However, you may run into troubles with update-alternatives and the like, and you might have to set some options in your desktop environment (if you use one). But in lieu of a proper Mozilla Debian repository (maybe there is one, I haven't checked), it's one of the easiest ways to go about it. Maybe someone a little more package-savvy than myself could write a script that automatically fetches the latest binary, packs it into a .deb, and adds the relevant metadata? I don't see why it would be too hard.

349 Name: 4n0n4ym0u5 h4xx0r : 2012-11-08 01:29 ID:LMy80qwp

How do I define my own keyboard shortcuts in Firefox under Linux? Make whatever keys I want perform whatever action I want and whatnot?

350 Name: 4n0n4ym0u5 h4xx0r : 2012-11-11 19:47 ID:LOUpMS5f

Running Debian 64-bit. Tried to enable multiarch to install Wine 32bit. I was suggested these commands by the "wine64-bin helper package." I ran these commands as root:

# dpkg --add-architecture i386
# apt-get update
# apt-get install wine-bin:i386

When I tried the last command, this was the output:

The most relevant information, I think, is at the bottom:

dpkg: error: --configure needs a valid package name but 'libuuid1' is not: ambiguous package name 'libuuid1' with more than one installed instance

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351 Name: 4n0n4ym0u5 h4xx0r : 2012-11-11 22:32 ID:LOUpMS5f

Same idiot again. I'm going to go ahead and just backup and reinstall, but if anyone has had this happen before and got it fixed, you can post it. I imagine I'm not the only one, even if it seems like it from the google results I got.

352 Name: moron : 2013-09-29 21:55 ID:brK8jmNi

I need Java for homework. I installed it and this is the error I keep getting

Disabling this is not an option, I must have it or I cannot do my homework. What am I supposed to do?

353 Name: moron : 2013-09-29 21:57 ID:brK8jmNi

seems that link does not work, here's a more direct link? I can only hope

354 Name: 4n0n4ym0u5 h4xx0r : 2014-01-14 03:47 ID:8ApaitL8

ubuntuzilla is a repository containing the latest stable versions of mozilla's three programs.

currently hosted at sourceforge.

355 Name: 4n0n4ym0u5 h4xx0r : 2018-05-08 00:48 ID:qtedo+Ca

I recently bought a Gateway DX4375-UR22. It came with a 1 terabyte hard drive. I turned it on, and it booted up using Ubuntu. Me being me, I stupidly decided to take it apart. I put it back together, and now there is a problem with the hard drive. Everything else works fine, except for the hard drive. The drive is a Seagate Barracuda 1000 Gigabyte. I decided to try it in another computer, but the other one does not recognize it as a drive. I tried putting a hard drive from another computer into the Gateway to see if it would boot, but no luck. The seagate drive spins, but it is not transferring data or being recognized. Can I save the drive? How can I boot up the computer?

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357 Name: 4n0n4ym0u5 h4xx0r : 2018-09-17 04:27 ID:2yNllzAU

You didn't take the fucking drive itself apart, did you? If so it's fucked, buy a new one.
If I'm reading you wrong, then I guess the chances are you didn't plug it in properly. It's getting power fine, but are you sure there's any actual data connection?

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How do I access a server via ssh? How do I publish a website? Help me, please! (2)

1 Name: 4n0n4ym0u5 h4xx0r : 2018-08-18 19:45 ID:NY67tlc/

I am not sure if this kind of issue has to do with this board, but I hope you can help me. I am trying to make my own text board, but I am a complete newbie regarding web development and programming. I am trying to use kareha or weabot. At the moment, I have already bought a domain and a server, they're both linked (I don't know if this is the correct term for this), but I don't know how to access it via ssh. I try by putting: "ssh" on terminal and it only says "operation timed out".

Furthermore, after I access it via ssh, how do I publish my text board? How do I put kareha (or weabot) there? I'll be very happy if you can help me!

2 Name: 4n0n4ym0u5 h4xx0r : 2018-08-22 17:32 ID:batC6p/D

What kind of server/vps do you have? I'm more of a layman too, but maybe you've missed some configuration option?
Kareha is fairly straightforward to install; just make sure the permissions are in order and that you have CGI::Carp installed. I'd recommend the documentation wiki if you haven't already read it.
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kek support (3)

1 Name: 4n0n4ym0u5 h4xx0r : 2017-11-07 23:52 ID:2Ck1Mb2b

kek support

2 Name: 4n0n4ym0u5 h4xx0r : 2018-04-29 21:40 ID:MOcR7RM5

Why does Google truncate the URL (in green text) but not the title and description? Example: - "u r gei - Google Search"

The browser inner width and characters of path are known by Google, so why do they do that?

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i am not good with computer... (4)

1 Name: 4n0n4ym0u5 h4xx0r : 2017-12-01 10:41 ID:P2uZGHwt


2 Name: 4n0n4ym0u5 h4xx0r : 2018-03-09 19:34 ID:qgOMnK8O

ok, will do.

3 Name: 4n0n4ym0u5 h4xx0r : 2018-04-07 23:58 ID:+qtZtmlS

install gentoo

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Fuck GNU (3)

1 Name: 4n0n4ym0u5 h4xx0r : 2018-03-16 19:33 ID:XnXOCTP7

It should be Linux/GNU or just Linux, not GNU/Linux. Prove me wrong.

>Protip: You can't

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3 Name: 4n0n4ym0u5 h4xx0r : 2018-03-20 21:30 ID:qGZV6a6G

The naming is all autism anyway. Though..... perhaps that's what *nix is all about. It's just about autism.
If you're going to shill your scam, this is probably the most dead place you could have chosen.

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[Help/Support] Old Macintosh Networking (11)

1 Name: 4n0n4ym0u5 h4xx0r : 2006-08-23 00:56 ID:6UkC6RmM

I have a problem, and hope someone here can help -

Recently I got a Apple Ethernet LC Twisted-Pair [ethernet] card off of ebay for my antiquated LCIII in hopes of using that thing as a server.

In preparation to do so, I updated to OS 7.5.3 (clean install) so I didn't have to use the bloated install of OS 7.1 already on the HDD.

Here's my conundrum - despite appearing to physically work (LED lights for link, etc) MacOS gives me an error whenever I try to make that network card my Appletalk device, and refuses to get an IP addr. when I hook it up to the Internet.

Neither OpenTransport or MacTCP will resolve to an IP, and the associated Appletalk (Appletalk and Network, respectively) Control Panels refuse to use the ethernet card as an Appletalk device.

Any ideas?

2 Name: 4n0n4ym0u5 h4xx0r : 2006-08-23 03:02 ID:IkPCr+h3

install linux, problem solved

3 Name: 4n0n4ym0u5 h4xx0r : 2006-08-23 16:14 ID:6UkC6RmM

I would, but I'd need a larger hard drive to do, and SCSI hard drives are still suprisingly overpriced.

4 Name: Albright!LC/IWhc3yc : 2006-08-24 08:27 ID:MySOTQ8q

Don't buy crap off of eBay?

Seriously, you're going to be hard-pressed to find an answer for this one. I'd try a highly popular Mac forum, like MacWorld's forums, and hope there's a neckbeard there who routinely networked LCIIIs in their day.

Just curious, what exactly are you going to serve from this thing?

5 Name: 4n0n4ym0u5 h4xx0r : 2006-08-25 06:24 ID:l0k/Vui+

serve potato chips

6 Name: 4n0n4ym0u5 h4xx0r : 2006-08-25 19:59 ID:Heaven

Static html crap, maybe some files.

Also, thanks for the advise, I'm off to Macworld to seek help there.

7 Name: Albright!LC/IWhc3yc : 2006-08-27 05:43 ID:MySOTQ8q

>Static html crap, maybe some files.

According to EveryMac, this thing didn't ship with a hard drive bigger than 160MB. And according to >>3, you haven't upgraded it. That's not a lot of data; you might as well just sneakernet with a Flash drive or something. I guess I still don't get why.

Unless you're just doing it for geek points, in which case I'll say no more.

8 Name: Mrpowermac7300 (Tips hat) : 2006-09-18 22:40 ID:NOGSJTir

tcp/ip plugin or no work
try 7.5.5 it comes with it

9 Name: 4n0n4ym0u5 h4xx0r : 2006-09-20 08:51 ID:Heaven

get a machine that can run a/ux and use that instead.

10 Name: 4n0n4ym0u5 h4xx0r : 2017-12-01 10:43 ID:rJQMctna

Have you tried reinstalling? Works just fine for me on High Sierra.

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Error Cannot Copy <filename> Invalid MS-DOS function (47)

1 Name: Joe!QkO1sgFXdY 2005-07-14 02:13 ID:5du9jpAD

Ok, I get this whenever I try to copy something from my CD-Rom drive, It sounds like it's working ok, but after it reaches somewhere around 40% it just gives up on the file and shows this error message saying "Error Cannot Copy <filename> Invalid MS-DOS function". The computer is brand new and I was wondering if anyone else has had the same trouble with this? thanks!

38 Name: 4n0n4ym0u5 h4xx0r : 2010-02-16 20:48 ID:Heaven

39 Name: Azhary : 2010-08-17 10:58 ID:RCE5mtvv

Thank you very much to Latheef!!
for your solution :

"Best solution
Inj win2003 Right click any where in your drive or dirctory then from the popup
new-> ziped folder
then a new zipped folder is created
Drag and drop the the contents of CD up on the newly created icon after a short time whole the dragged contents are ziped to your disk then upzip it. Then you will get all contents without any errors

once more, your rock dude!!

40 Name: PERSON : 2011-06-07 15:55 ID:Bf0YMnVc

What if your compter won't allow you to make zip folders?

41 Name: 4n0n4ym0u5 h4xx0r : 2011-06-07 19:22 ID:Heaven

Seriously. Fuck off. You don't know how to use the site and you keep spamming your blog here. Kill yourself.

42 Name: Ivan : 2011-12-25 15:39 ID:NItoO8Sq

@Latheef, thanks a lot, it works on my win XP :) God Bless you

43 Name: Someone Who Knows : 2012-10-03 11:00 ID:H9xQ0nB1

The Best Thing to Do is Reload Windows

44 Name: Someone Who Knows : 2012-10-03 11:02 ID:H9xQ0nB1

I Reloaded Windows and it worked.. I didn't get any Error Messages like "Invalid MS-DOS Function"

45 Name: 4n0n4ym0u5 h4xx0r : 2015-06-13 20:10 ID:ZrCsy3On

Oh god this thread is so fucking old. 10 years, wow.

46 Name: 4n0n4ym0u5 h4xx0r : 2015-06-15 12:51 ID:0OrITwbP


47 Name: 4n0n4ym0u5 h4xx0r : 2017-12-01 10:41 ID:pdeeT1L2

MSDOS good grief

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future of piracy (48)

1 Name: captain morgan : 2006-08-25 06:21 ID:euZXhkQw

with windows vista and directx 10 games coming out do you think there will be far more advanced ways to protect media? Songs downloaded from Napster can't be converted - they have to be recorded using software like tunebite. Prince of Persia 3 uses starforce protection that leaves downloaders unable to play unless they disconnect the IDE cables for the disc drives. It seems like sophisticated media protection is the wave of the future.

I'll be honost, the only reason why I pirate is because its a)pathetically easy b)readily available from multiple sources on the internet c)saves me money d) lets me try just about anything digital (games I'm curious about, programs that I wonder are any good, etc. etc.)

If protection measures eventually make piracy obsolete I pray that at least companies provide demos of their products (as many do) so I at least can spend my money only on the things worthwhile.

thoughts? comments? yo-ho ho and a bottle of rum?

39 Name: 4n0n4ym0u5 h4xx0r : 2006-09-11 12:23 ID:sho8i83K

Effective signing of everything you create would require supporting PC hardware, software, network equipment and whatnot. Also, such a solution could not be allowed to work on or with legacy hardware, because that would be a security hole, that means not transferring from "safe" PC's to "unsafe" ones.

How realistic is it to assume that ALL MAJOR VENDORS would manage to agree on something that big, when you can't even get two companies to agree on a next gen DVD format, and what is the chance of getting basically all major businesses that use PC's to completeley rebuild their IT infrastructure? The recording/movie industry is powerful, and they have a lot of money, but some companies are more powerful have more money.

And then, if someone found a hole after everything was changed over, everyone would have to start over again.

40 Name: 4n0n4ym0u5 h4xx0r : 2006-09-11 15:54 ID:Heaven


You do realize most of these things are happening right now? Both HD-DVD and Blu-ray are built to (optionally) not support legacy hardware, and to implement a secure encrypted data path all the way from disc to display, and will refuse to work at full resolution if this is not provided? This includes the video playback framework in Vista.

41 Name: 4n0n4ym0u5 h4xx0r : 2006-09-11 18:17 ID:sho8i83K

Backward compatibility is there, Blu ray and HD-DVD are going to work in windows XP, using a software player, and software player means it can and will be cracked. Also, there's already devices on sale to filter out the HDCP from a HDMI stream (They recieve the stream encrypted and just output it decrypted). And key revocation? As soon as a key of an device that is spread far enoguh has been broken, the system is doomed.

42 Name: 4n0n4ym0u5 h4xx0r : 2006-09-11 21:30 ID:sho8i83K

This secure path does not enable you to copy data from medium to medium/PC to PC and to convert it to different formats, which is something you'll want to do with your own documents/data. It was also made to work only with certified OSes and players, and only needs to work with video streams.

The problem that HDCP is trying to solve is the creation of high quality digital rips, it's not trying to uniqueley identify every single part of every single disc (be it audio, video, text or whatever) that is created, which would be a tad more complex.

43 Name: dmpk2k!hinhT6kz2E : 2006-09-11 23:56 ID:Heaven

I concur with >>40, and I think >>41 is missing the point: so what if it has a backward compatibility for now?

It's once all the required pieces are in place (both hardware and software) that things will become problematic. XP has a lifecycle, and will eventually be replaced by Vista and Vista's successors on all machines that matter. Same with OSX. Once all the required components are in place will the race be on.

You're thinking too short-term.

> As soon as a key of an device that is spread far enoguh has been broken, the system is doomed.

Unless the network is involved, similar to Steam. The current Steam can be broken, but mainly because the hardware is insecure. What happens when both pieces are in place?

I can see it already: We're sorry. Your system has not been certified, so to protect other users you cannot sign on. Please take your computer to your nearest certified IT professional, et cetera.

44 Name: 4n0n4ym0u5 h4xx0r : 2006-09-12 11:46 ID:Heaven


I didn't say it did. I said that your arguments for it being impossible to do are invalid, because an effort of similar difficulty is being made right now. The aim is somewhat different, but it could easily be done again, especially when a lot of the stuff that's being put in place can be reused.

45 Name: 4n0n4ym0u5 h4xx0r : 2006-09-20 16:51 ID:EGzyLXNm

Dude, put down the tripcode and take a deep breath. Like I said, this isn't slashdot.

Reverse engineering a modern microprocessor is cheaper than building one from scratch. Second, your understanding of the PSP's security model is clearly lacking. They've got all the bits you suggest in there in the current revisions: a TPM analogue, signed software components all the way up from the BIOS-equivalent (it being a MIPS-based system, so no x86-style BIOS), hardware verification and attestation, you name it. Hell, even the original Xbox had signed software components and hardware verification using an "onion" model, and look at what happened: some MIT dude puts a FPGA-based bus analyzer on top of the cpu-to-northbridge wires and BOOM.

My point is that if you understand at all how many distinct factors go into making a system secure (well, actually, "more secure than the one before that", being as security isn't like being pregnant), the tradeoffs become readily apparent. Certainly Sony could rewrite all code that goes into the PSP in Haskell or some such verifiable language in which stack smashing or integer overflows didn't happen or were caught in hardware, but then you'd have issues with algorithm level bugs and the way verification-oriented languages tend to result in code that isn't appropriate for systems that have use for that 60% of cycles that the runtime tends to slurp up for its own use. Like, uhh, a handheld game console for instance.

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46 Name: dmpk2k!hinhT6kz2E : 2006-09-21 05:00 ID:Heaven

> Dude, put down the tripcode and take a deep breath. Like I said, this isn't slashdot.

You're right, it isn't. So why the patronizing tone?

> Reverse engineering a modern microprocessor is cheaper than building one from scratch.

Yet it's still expensive, and only becoming more so. Make it expensive enough and protected by a legal framework, and then what?

> a TPM analogue

Analogue could mean anything. A strong implementation is strong, and weak is weak. It looks like PSP's wasn't strong enough, which says little about future attempts.

> using an "onion" model
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48 Name: 4n0n4ym0u5 h4xx0r : 2017-10-13 00:41 ID:xwUcoxcx

we got always online shit now :C

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2 Name: 4n0n4ym0u5 h4xx0r : 2017-08-31 18:54 ID:1kdsb4Gy

3 Name: 4n0n4ym0u5 h4xx0r : 2017-10-02 18:41 ID:12T4RS+I

those boards are deader than Harambe

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