Tech @4-ch

Tech @4-ch

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1: Wow, this place isn't nearly as busy as it used to be... (3) 2: No Internet, Only College (11) 3: Can any of you help out with this Linux distro? (8) 4: help topics for tips channel on youtube (2) 5: AMD INSIDE IDIOT OUTSIDE (4) 6: Why aren't you using SadOS? (7) 7: People are really fucking stupid when it comes to technology. (6) 8: How can cropping images make the file bigger?!? (7) 9: How will the failure of net neutrality effect online gaming? (4) 10: [HELP] Single questions & Help Thread [n00b] (354) 11: TRON project as original and newest OSs, Specifications and Concepts (68) 12: How does one download Wikipedia for offile reading, in Linux? (4) 13: learning through direct download? (4) 14: Chroms forking of Webkit, without the bullshit. (4) 15: isn't he aggro (2) 16: Search Revolution (1) 17: The worlds first fully open-source tablet? (5) 18: Firefox OS continues to develop. [NEW PHOTOS] (3) 19: The Pebble e-Ink smartwatch is set to ship. (1) 20: Damn small computers (15) 21: 51cnnet is gone! (1) 22: plan9 second edition (8) 23: [VOIP] [HELP] Need help deciding what would be better for video calling, SIP or XMPP? (4) 24: Error Cannot Copy <filename> Invalid MS-DOS function (44) 25: 3D Printing, can society. (18) 26: MaxiVista alternative (19) 27: Question about Wordpress blogs and accounts (6) 28: Perfect infographic about how the SOPA is very wrong for our Internet. (7) 29: Japanese IME on Windows XP (2) 30: Is there a light web IRC client... (6) 31: Intel fakes playing a game demo when it's actually a pre-recorded video. (1) 32: Using file sharing with Norton Internet Security 2011? (4) 33: Hibernate settings/options (1) 34: Greetings oh gods of technology. Question using Truecrypt (2) 35: How do you like Firefox 4? (10) 36: Importance of graphics card for stuff other than games (2) 37: Posting a thread on (3) 38: Anatomy of a Short Film Volume 2 - Photoshop tutorials (3) 39: Apple fucks up the next Nano (2) 40: What do I do with these files (3)

Wow, this place isn't nearly as busy as it used to be... (3)

1 Name: 4n0n4ym0u5 h4xx0r : 2015-03-25 20:58 ID:QWTxxhmC

Sad in a way, but perhaps indicative of the changes in our society. I just returned after a 4 year hiatus, and I half to say it is almost heart-breaking to see the lack of content (゚´Д`゚)゚

Perhaps it was the end of an era? I hope not. Perhaps the drop of quality on contemporary imageboards (8ch, 4chan, etc.) will bring a flood of Anons back to textboards. They are a glorious thing that I hope we will rediscover.

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3 Name: 4n0n4ym0u5 h4xx0r : 2015-03-30 22:55 ID:t8TPQEsL

The thing about 8ch is that can't say that 8ch itself is bad. I'd say it's rahter the boards that are shit, and more specificaly their users. 8ch only provides a playground for redards at 8ch's /b/ for example to post the exact fucking things they'd post on 4chan and brag about them and 8ch being so much better than 4chan qualitywise. If you look a little bit further than the top25 you might find a board with a decent activity and ok posts and people to discuss with. You have to look hard though if you wanna find a board where people don't have the need to use funneh maymays and greentext to communicate with one another, but there are boards like that.

And as to people comming back to textboards. I wouldn't hold my breath, really. If you wanna discuss something with chill people you'll have to find a niche imageboard, textboards are so obscure it's really saddening, this place could have been the 2ch of the west but no one cared. What a pity.
The thing that I am hoping for is that /jp/@8ch becoming more active and fun to post in, there is really a lot of potential for that board. So please tell rad people you know about !

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No Internet, Only College (11)

1 Name: 4n0n4ym0u5 h4xx0r : 2009-09-11 13:36 ID:E7S+fm+c

Yo, I can't afford the internet right now so I do all my browsing from my college. It seems that overnight my colege started blocking everysite I ever visited. Its ok right now cause I'm using Tor. Although I fear they may start blocking Tor.

So in fear of that I ask you. What can I do if they ever start such a thing?

2 Name: 4n0n4ym0u5 h4xx0r : 2009-09-11 16:46 ID:fIWUWLIw

Complain to your college? Worst case you can afford to buy hosting and setup a proxy through that, though that requires computer tech knowledge...

3 Name: 4n0n4ym0u5 h4xx0r : 2009-09-12 03:49 ID:EhsvIcUm

Looks like you have to be careful of which websites you look at when you're surfing on campus. I doubt they'll block Gmail, but they might block other (NSFW) websites.

Speaking of which, what websites are you visiting with their connection?

4 Name: 4n0n4ym0u5 h4xx0r : 2009-09-12 13:47 ID:E7S+fm+c

Well there's 4chan of course, then various blogs, a couple of music blogs that were blocked because "P2P File sharing is not allowed", They even blocked Source forge because of
"File Sharing".

I've tried complaining and requesting that they unblock some of the sites but the people in charge state that "Those sites are not academic". When I inform them about the 70 some odd people on myspace and facebook they don't reply. Man some people are just so stuck up.

5 Name: 4n0n4ym0u5 h4xx0r : 2009-09-12 19:02 ID:J1KDEI0y


> 4chan of course

For which reason was 4chan blocked?

> a couple of music blogs that were blocked because "P2P File sharing is not allowed",

Well, they have a point there, although you can bypass that easily anyway...

> They even blocked Source forge because of "File Sharing".

You can certainly complain about this. Sourceforge shares files legally, and the files are directly tied to CS academia - they're computer software for fucks sake. Actually, that is fucking outrageous.

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6 Name: 4n0n4ym0u5 h4xx0r : 2009-09-13 03:23 ID:Heaven

Sourceforge as filesharing? Complaining about non academic sites? They might as well block the whole Internet.

7 Name: 4n0n4ym0u5 h4xx0r : 2009-09-13 23:25 ID:bRCLb/6j

What about tunneling? If you can use TOR, then you could tunnel your browsing. Possible a friend could lend you part of his internet connection.

8 Name: 4n0n4ym0u5 h4xx0r : 2009-09-20 08:18 ID:wtDoFdua

>>7 said the best solution

Either setup an sshd in your friends computer or buy an ssh account (they're pretty cheap).

For 5 bucks a month (scroll down to the last option):
etc. you can google for 'ssh account hosting'

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10 Name: 4n0n4ym0u5 h4xx0r : 2015-03-11 23:52 ID:KwEGrNs7

There is a thing called bridge exactly for the case when Tor as whole is blocked.
You just connect to a bridge which essentially acts as a proxy into Tor so all that is visible is an encrypted connection to a bridge.

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Can any of you help out with this Linux distro? (8)

1 Name: 4n0n4ym0u5 h4xx0r : 2012-01-11 04:34 ID:xjwteEwy

Namely, creating a branch of it that uses Openbox.

2 Name: 4n0n4ym0u5 h4xx0r : 2012-01-16 01:26 ID:Heaven

Just fetch the Openbox sources and compile (then move to your $PATH or whatever). You might even be able to grab the binaries from Arch Linux's repository if they use the same package manager.
Honestly I wish wouldn't associate itself with this project. Then again it's a wiki and it's just one guy editing it, so whatever.

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4 Name: 4n0n4ym0u5 h4xx0r : 2014-10-13 00:17 ID:Heaven

...almost three years later.

5 Name: 4n0n4ym0u5 h4xx0r : 2014-10-16 16:29 ID:Heaven

i still don't see why someone would use this instead of just installing those package on arch.

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8 Name: 4n0n4ym0u5 h4xx0r : 2015-04-23 03:18 ID:Heaven

it looks like this distro died in 2011, before >>1 even posted about it.

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help topics for tips channel on youtube (2)

1 Name: freezet : 2014-12-29 14:55 ID:IVQcbidQ

good day I'm doubt about what to do for my channel ... ya'll give dials or even teach something that I do not know for me to spend my allies?

2 Name: 4n0n4ym0u5 h4xx0r : 2015-01-09 01:26 ID:Heaven

porn. youtube needs more of that.

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1 Name: 200X : 2014-11-19 18:51 ID:08QYalts

Remember those wacky early 00s amd athlon xps?
I had one. I just got 8 extra fps in QIII and because of overheating got my CP burned. AMD was shit. Then I bought intel pentium 4 2ghz and still use it to this day.

Fuck unstable ATHLON

2 Name: 4n0n4ym0u5 h4xx0r : 2014-11-22 07:13 ID:Heaven

All desktop chips are shit. If you think you need to overclock your processor, the rest of your machine is probably shit, too. The first laptop I ever bought had a 1.6GHz Turion (MT-30), and it ran circles around the 3GHz Pentium 4 desktop that my dad bought a year later, and used less than a third the power (25W vs 89W).

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Why aren't you using SadOS? (7)

1 Name: 4n0n4ym0u5 h4xx0r : 2013-05-31 06:06 ID:HIyrP7pc

It's THE os for an artsy hacker!

2 Name: 4n0n4ym0u5 h4xx0r : 2013-11-06 14:13 ID:4gBHiu3I

because it's sad

3 Name: 4n0n4ym0u5 h4xx0r : 2013-11-08 22:56 ID:zaSnfDBX

i am not a panda

4 Name: 4n0n4ym0u5 h4xx0r : 2013-11-28 20:17 ID:pacy88d/

Because of my Social

5 Name: 4n0n4ym0u5 h4xx0r : 2013-12-12 19:23 ID:GGaXKDr+


Don't you mean Seasonal Affect Disorder?

6 Name: 4n0n4ym0u5 h4xx0r : 2014-07-28 03:22 ID:u47mQMF6

the fact that there are two disorders with the same acronym makes me even more sad than I was previously. (*;_;)

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People are really fucking stupid when it comes to technology. (6)

1 Name: grey!C.MxxuCiTo : 2011-05-14 19:33 ID:nJWx28JA

There is definite sort of anti-intellectualism when it comes to technology. People don't want to learn. They don't want to grasp it. They view it as a bad thing. But they still know what martketing companies tell them, they have to have the latest smartphone or they won't be smart!

I mean, fuck, I HATE going out into public with my netbook. It's like walking a newborn puppy in public or something except it's not college girls bugging you, it's grown men and women. Five minutes before typing this some white trash guy with his kid in tow came up and started bugging me with "Eyy das a nise cumpuda. Look at it-EY BRANDON, MERE-look at his little tiny cumpuda." The guy named Brandon comes over. "Who-ho-hoo! What we gut here? Jeeze. Thats things tiny."
And there was this one diluted woman once, she walked by and practically screamed "WOW. Would you look at that TINY baby computer! Is that an EYEPAD????"
She does not even know what an Ipad is but by golly she sure does know it's just got to be the most REVOLUTIONARY INVENTION OF OUR TIME!!!!

Hole-lee-shit. It's a computer, not a puppy. Do you act like this when you see peoples blenders or microwaves too?

2 Name: 4n0n4ym0u5 h4xx0r : 2011-05-26 18:12 ID:Heaven

People always have and always will be stupid.

3 Name: a : 2011-07-07 05:30 ID:G/sgbmbf




4 Name: a : 2011-07-07 06:45 ID:G/sgbmbf

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5 Name: 4n0n4ym0u5 h4xx0r : 2011-09-02 11:26 ID:Heaven

I always tell people to consider their needs first. For instance, I constantly get people telling me that I need a newer phone. They’re always stumped by the question of "Why?" I need my phone to make calls and for messaging. It does that already so I’m not upgrading until this one dies. You’re right, they’re just told that they must have the latest thing with no consideration as to what would actually be the best for their situation.

The tablet craze is driving me crazy because people are insisting that they must have one without considering what they’ll use it for. Do you need a reader that’s in color? If not, get a Kindle. If you don’t read, why do you need anything like this? Do you travel often and need to check e-mail? By the way, do you respond to e-mail? If so, buy a netbook. You want to play games? Games for tablets are lame, get a DS. My advice is that if you think you need a tablet, get the cheapest Chinese knock-off you can find. If you're using it all the time and need more from it, then upgrade, but not to iPad because it’s just more marketing than substance.

Most of the time they'll ignore the advice and get an iPad and never use it. It's what keeps our economy in motion, I guess.

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How can cropping images make the file bigger?!? (7)

1 Name: Artist : 2013-08-17 21:40 ID:QfDEDDc+

For some reason sometimes when I crop an image to reduce the file size the opposite effect happens and the file actually gets bigger? How does this happen and can it be avoided without affecting the picture quality?

2 Name: 4n0n4ym0u5 h4xx0r : 2013-09-01 12:02 ID:2K9ioN4N

Sounds like a format change. Maybe you cropped a png and saved as jpeg? Or maybe you cropped a 8bit png and saved as 24bit?

3 Name: 4n0n4ym0u5 h4xx0r : 2013-09-06 04:25 ID:DP7+Y0kk

Nope, no format change. though the images were all .JPG as I recall. The program I did the editing in was XNview.

4 Name: Kovalski : 2014-08-10 13:12 ID:8GHeQ3Of

It can be happened for some reasons. I saw such thing for once when I edited my icons using special editors from maybe other I don't remmeber exactly. I cropped a picture a lil bitbut I set the edges of the croppin frame OUTSIDE the edge of the picture. After I cropped programm added this piece to initial picture and it became larger.

5 Name: 4n0n4ym0u5 h4xx0r : 2014-08-11 18:46 ID:tBoYea8H

I hope that their bloggers must close bloger.
Because ther are kitty guy,stupid and fuck.

Thank you

6 Name: 4n0n4ym0u5 h4xx0r : 2014-08-24 07:48 ID:MCMmaizc

>>1 is probably long gone, but anyway.

When you do something to a jpeg image, this is usually how an image editing program would do it:


  1. Decompress jpeg file
  2. Convert jpeg macroblocks to bitmap
  3. Do image editing operation

4. Convert bitmap to jpeg macroblocks
5. Throw away some amount of detail (configurable)
6. Compress jpeg file
7. Add metadata (like "CREATED BY ADOBE PHOTOSHOP LOLOL", thumbnail, date and time, etc)

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How will the failure of net neutrality effect online gaming? (4)

1 Name: Bill of the Gates : 2014-01-27 12:03 ID:1mJ/GH/f

How will the failure of net neutrality effect online gaming? Will I have to pay more to play world of warcraft?

2 Name: 4n0n4ym0u5 h4xx0r : 2014-06-04 19:49 ID:BFx+5FvW

Probably not. If your ISP is so evil as to try to extort money from someone, it will most likely be Blizzard, or the company that makes the game you want to play. And if Blizzard don't comply, your ISP might try to drive away Blizzard's profits by slowing down everyone's connection to their servers. So no, if this repeal comes into force, you probably won't be affected monetarily.

3 Name: Bill of the Gates : 2014-06-09 17:11 ID:eOdvkNAZ

So instead of costing me more, it'll just make me more likely to get ganked then when playing online. It is probably a good thing I don't have Comcast any more, greedy comcastards...

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[HELP] Single questions & Help Thread [n00b] (354)

1 Name: CyB3r h4xX0r g33k 2005-09-05 20:53 ID:KxkIsG20

If you have a single (or some more) question regarding any of the tech topics of this board and feel that it wouldn't justify creating an own thread just for that, feel free to post it in here.

If you know the answer to any of the questions in this thread, please help us out here! I am sure it's going to be appreciated.

I am creating this thread since there's ben popping up too many threads lately with single questions asking for help that aren't really set out to create too much interest.

345 Name: 4n0n4ym0u5 h4xx0r : 2012-08-16 03:41 ID:sYCeqEuy

Thank you for your reply.
The output of ifconfig gives me values for "inet addr," "Bcast," and "Mask." So I guess I can assume those values are the current LAN address, the Broadcast and the Netmask? Should the broadcast number look something like I know the mask should look like that, but other guides say that the broadcast should be the last address in your network's range, like, for your example, "," so the output confuses me a little.

346 Name: 4n0n4ym0u5 h4xx0r : 2012-08-27 13:16 ID:yjMoyBq1

Does iTunes for Windows do anything to your music files at all?

As in, does it have any sort of deal where when you add your giantass folder of music to its library, it renames all the music files to random alphanumeric things like "HH23X9.mp3 and then places them in a folder tree with names much similar to that? Or does it add some sort of code to your files that only allows them to be played back from within iTunes?

For various reasons I will be forced to use iTunes for the management of my music library but I'm almost scared to try this because I hear things like this about iTunes for Windows very frequently.

Can anyone confirm or deny any of this for me?

347 Name: 4n0n4ym0u5 h4xx0r : 2012-08-28 15:17 ID:HH6HeEdn

I only used it briefly, but I think it stores its own metadata without actually touching your files. That would create problems for a lot of people.

There's probably an option to move/rename/tag music, though.

348 Name: 4n0n4ym0u5 h4xx0r : 2012-08-28 15:38 ID:HH6HeEdn

I use Debian wheezy and the official Firefox binaries.

Just go to the Firefox website and hit the download button. It'll give you a .tar.bz2 with firefox/ inside. Extract that somewhere you have read/write access to--I used /opt/firefox/. After that, add that directory to your $PATH (e.g. open up ~/.profile and add something like PATH="/opt/firefox:$PATH"). Firefox's own updater should be able to update the software with no problems. Setting up any sort of desktop or menu shortcut shouldn't be difficult, just set it to run firefox (or the full pathname) and to use the icon in the firefox/icons/ directory.

Admittedly, it's not the best solution, but it works and ensures you get timely updates straight from Mozilla, with all the dependencies included. However, you may run into troubles with update-alternatives and the like, and you might have to set some options in your desktop environment (if you use one). But in lieu of a proper Mozilla Debian repository (maybe there is one, I haven't checked), it's one of the easiest ways to go about it. Maybe someone a little more package-savvy than myself could write a script that automatically fetches the latest binary, packs it into a .deb, and adds the relevant metadata? I don't see why it would be too hard.

349 Name: 4n0n4ym0u5 h4xx0r : 2012-11-08 01:29 ID:LMy80qwp

How do I define my own keyboard shortcuts in Firefox under Linux? Make whatever keys I want perform whatever action I want and whatnot?

350 Name: 4n0n4ym0u5 h4xx0r : 2012-11-11 19:47 ID:LOUpMS5f

Running Debian 64-bit. Tried to enable multiarch to install Wine 32bit. I was suggested these commands by the "wine64-bin helper package." I ran these commands as root:

# dpkg --add-architecture i386
# apt-get update
# apt-get install wine-bin:i386

When I tried the last command, this was the output:

The most relevant information, I think, is at the bottom:

dpkg: error: --configure needs a valid package name but 'libuuid1' is not: ambiguous package name 'libuuid1' with more than one installed instance

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351 Name: 4n0n4ym0u5 h4xx0r : 2012-11-11 22:32 ID:LOUpMS5f

Same idiot again. I'm going to go ahead and just backup and reinstall, but if anyone has had this happen before and got it fixed, you can post it. I imagine I'm not the only one, even if it seems like it from the google results I got.

352 Name: moron : 2013-09-29 21:55 ID:brK8jmNi

I need Java for homework. I installed it and this is the error I keep getting

Disabling this is not an option, I must have it or I cannot do my homework. What am I supposed to do?

353 Name: moron : 2013-09-29 21:57 ID:brK8jmNi

seems that link does not work, here's a more direct link? I can only hope

354 Name: 4n0n4ym0u5 h4xx0r : 2014-01-14 03:47 ID:8ApaitL8

ubuntuzilla is a repository containing the latest stable versions of mozilla's three programs.

currently hosted at sourceforge.

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