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480 Name: ((●)トェェェイ(●)) : 1993-09-11456 18:17

>That's more philosophically embarrassing than holding a belief in mind-body dualism that wildly contradicts everything else you believe.

I'm reminded of the annoyance I feel every time certain places start up with their "it's mental health awareness day/week/month/whatever" posts, and crossing over with the "wouldn't say this if it wasn't an anonymous board thread" but putting it here since it's a response:

IMO the biggest hurdle to better "mental health" care is the notion that "mental health" is some sort of separate thing from a concept of whole-body health.

Yes, "mental illness" is real in so far as, like any other organ, the brain can have deformities or chemical imbalances that interfere with it working the way it's supposed to, and being the brain, the symptoms of those malfunctions tend to manifest as strange behavior. And sure, treating those issues is as sensible as treating any other organ malfunction and probably improves the quality of life of people with real health problems.

On the other hand, "mental illness" is often just a convenient excuse for the powers that be to pathologize behavior they don't like. This is very convenient for them, since suddenly you're not a malcontent being persecuted, you're "sick" and need "help", and forcing someone into "treatment for medical reasons" tends to allow sidestepping all the court proceedings that would normally go with trying to jail someone (in countries that have such checks, but even in those that don't the "helping someone who is sick" excuse is good for garnering sympathies from others who might otherwise object). Rather than go with the predictable example that usually gets invoked and leads to the predictable flamewars, have this instead:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Drapetomania

Between that, and the persistence of "mind = spirit" type conceptions where it's basically a weird reskin of old beliefs about demonic possession and exorcism, is it really any wonder that "mental health" has a stigma attached to it?

495 Name: ((●)トェェェイ(●)) : 1993-09-11459 10:38

>>480
I hate to be the guy that uses work experience as authority, but you mostly feel this way because you don't work in healthcare or healthcare adjacent fields, the reason mental health messaging is popular is because it's very hard and often impractical to get people to live holistically healthy lifestyles these days, so physically healthy people often participate in sort of biohacking. People take shitloads of supplements instead of eating balanced, nutritious meals, they exercise on a treadmill instead of playing football with their friends outside while socializing, etc. People are often not having all their needs met emotionally and being educated and reminded to prioritize their wellbeing sometimes can help, you have to remember we live in an age where there's adults who seriously need to be reminded by their social media to drink water, people are thought to live in a sort of haze now. I do agree that in particular depression is often a lifestyle disease of those in poor physical health though.

It has had some unintended consequences though, like somewhat turning young people into emotionally incontinent empaths who trauma dump at parties or getting so good at seeking help and escalating their problems that diagnosis data often needs to be filtered through third party statistics firms before it can be used by academics. I think we're on the verge of a revolution regarding human behavior though with all the strides currently being made in neuroscience.

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