Why?
It's not.
It can't be killed. We could use some traffic on other boards though.
It has actually picked up lately. Go find yourself a nice thread from 2006 and reply to it. Someone might even insult you for bumping an old thread before the end of the year! That's TRAFFIC, BABY! We're moving at light speed!
I'd come if people were here.
But, people are not here. So I don't come.
>>6
Nice ID, bro.
Also, the most activity undoubtedly occurs on that strange board known simply as DQN. Are you man enough to enter?
Sometimes I think we should do some sort of drive to attract new users to the site.
Then I remember 4-ch's small userbase is what makes it great.
>>11
It definitaly should have more traffic though. BBS' are pretty cool and I think there are more people out there who would participate in a community like this... But they simply don't know about it, that's the problem.
bump
bump
funny how people have thought this for 8 years and nothing has changed for 8 years. the only new people who come to sites like these are people bored enough to read a list of textboards/imageboards on a wiki.
there have got to be like, less than 20 people who regularly use textboards. less than 10? they're probably all talking to each other on all these different websites without realizing it. insanity.
I miss iichan :<
>>16
I was going to say they can't be that anemic in number but then I started thinking it's probably not very far from the truth.
>>19
It's at least 30 people, though most of them only stop by maybe once a week. Maybe more, but I don't think many are active. Try checking some of the textboard related IRC channels, or the SAoVQ discord. There's a surprisingly large number of people.
The lack of activity isn't because of lack of people, but because all of those people don't post very often, and the boards they do post on are just the bigger ones like DQN or SAoVQ. I expect most people check the boards for posts worth replying to, see nothing new, and leave again. Try making some high quality threads in places where they will be seen, you'll quickly see a spike in activity as people finally have something new to reply to.
who cares
it's not that dead ;-;
>>17
I do too, even though it had been stagnant for years. There are simply no old-fashioned imageboards left. Mirroring the monolithic nature of the modern web, it's become 4chan or nothing again. Nothing is usually preferable to 4chan.
because of FAGGOTS and QuEERS
>>16
I used to stop by every day but my workplace had this website blocked. I recently found it to be unblocked recently though so I can finally return after like a 8 month drought. I check as many boards as possible over the workday but I don't really have anything to offer aside from serious responses. A lot of the times I don't have anything to add to a discussion so I don't reply at all.
Probably because of all the normalfags who just use instagram, twitter and all that, and everyone else using 4chan instead of other image/textboards because 4chan is the most popular imageboard that there is currently.
I met an anon from an antique internet
Who said: One vast and lifeless board of text
Stands on the web. Near it, in the thread,
Half sunk, a shattered AA lies, whose frown,
And wrinkled lip, and sneer of cold command,
Tell that its poster well those passions read
Which yet survive, stamped on these lifeless things,
The hand that mocked them and the heart that fed:
And on the subject line these words appear:
'My name is Squeeks, dokyun of dokyuns:
Look on my posts, ye Mighty, and despair!'
Nothing beside remains. Round the decay
Of that dead website, boundless and bare
The lone and level web stretches far away.
The old internet is dead, and the new one doesn't interest me at all. I still remember places from the hazy distant past like Portal of Evil, even before 4chan was around. The wayback machine doesn't even remember places like this; they're truly lost in the sands of time. If there's any solace to take from this slow death, it's that all things are headed towards the same end.
Quit bullshitting >>35, your demeanor alone outs you as another obsessed kid browsing creamy's list. Listen, and this goes for anyone else that finds this place through creamy, ed, qa or whatever lame 4chan spinoff: 4-ch is for txtboard culture and discussion of otaku/hobbyist topics. Don't pretend to be someone you're not; that's how you develop multiple personality disorder
>>36
Shut the fuck up retard. Gatekeeping a septic tank makes no sense.
>>36
I don't know what or who creamy is, but what's so bad about browsing this website even if you haven't been here for a lot of years? It's not like I'm acting like a retard like the post above me.
>>38
What's bad is you were preaching on and on about "normalfag this normalfag that" and you called yourself an "older user of 4chan", which now you admit you're not. No one brags about their "oldfag status" so bluntly, especially out of nowhere. Do you know how many people complain about the "quality of 4chan" every single day, pretending they're "an oldfag from 2005 here". It's getting to point now where I can't even tell if it's more /qa/ meta irony or just genuine cluelessness.
>>39
I never referred to myself as an oldfag, I used "we" referring to everyone on the site currently, and I never said that I was one of the "older users". I'm sorry that I was too ambiguous in my phrasing and choice of words, but I never out and out said I used 4chan back in 2008 or anything. Frankly, you don't have to have used the site 10 years ago to know that the overall quality at the moment is pretty low.
>>40
Define "quality". If you mean posts that aren't one-ten word shitposts, that can define a lot of imageboard's posters, like lainchan for example.
>>41
Point is: This is 4-ch, not 4chan. Really if you want to see more quality (aka whatever your definition of quality is), you can always make your own thread. Generally, if the thumbnail is eye catching and your topic has something to do with the board, you'll get plenty of replies.
I mean, quality as in originality and not spamming the same old wojak faces at someone while greentexting what the other person said, or just responding with cope, seethe, have sex, etc. Of course, there are people that aren't like that and actually discuss the topic at hand, but I see it a lot more than a while ago. Also, I never see people saying "lurk more", which I used to see pretty frequently when someone would flail around like a retard. It's a minor thing, but I think it's indicative of more and more new people arriving.
>>43
Then 4chan just isn't the place for you. But whining and ranting isn't going to fix lack of originality, in fact it has the polar opposite effect. If you want serious discussion, you're going to have to try to stir up some banter and put effort into your thread OPs. Sites like 4-ch and Shitaba really have the same problem, but in a less spammy same-post way. No one ever wants to add to threads, so they either don't post at all or make a fool of themselves (which is why this site's shitpost board is the only consistently active one). There's no use fighting the giant that is fourchan. Honestly most of its posters seem like robots because they see one popular thread, they wait until that thread 404s and then they remake it. 4/jp/ for example is a living example. Look at the entire catalog, and tell me if there's a single thread that isn't a.) a general thread or b.) a touhou template thread you can find ten thousands of duplicates of on warosu
>>45
That's true, the most popular anime, video games etc. do tend to practically get generals every day. Add that to the What did he mean by this? Now that the dust has settled... threads (mostly on /v/ admittedly) and stuff gets pretty formulaic
Formulaic OPs wouldn't have been a thing had moot not made text inclusion in subject/post field mandatory when starting threads shortly before he abandoned his site for google.
There's a Catch 22 at play. I've argued for years that 4chan lost its luster since the archives came into play. It jumped the shark long ago but this is the point where it lost credibility as a force. Its draw is no longer absolute chaos, it's semi-controlled chaos that plays out quite formulaic, you already know everything that's going to be posted before you even look at the thread 99% of the time. You would think that would cause knowledge to be codified, progress would build upon this lasting source, but no, the turnover rate is so maddening that you have to repeat the same things over and over and nobody ever learns anything.
The meme of n00bs spouting the same catchphrases over and over was true then, but has morphed into a nightmare. There's simply no excuse, it's so disheartening most actual old users (pre-2008) long ago gave up, or trudge along so disheartened that every single time they post they're wondering why.
4-ch suffers from stagnation and ease of flooding, but it doesn't suffer from this grinding fatigue. It is still a nice vacation spot to get away from it all, and that's what it should be.
>You come to anonymous sites when you feel lost.
Unless me only feeling like I find myself is when I've lost myself, this is wrong. I'm more lost on active places with usernames than anywhere with anonymous posters. I hate environments where your account/activity level determines the validity of the content you are sharing. I've been on 4chan.org since 2007 and I can honestly say I still enjoy going there after I've read all the new posts on all the textboards I visit daily.
>>49
For me the appeal has honestly always been the lack of registration requirements. I hate registering for sites to an unreasonable degree.
these sites are dead and suck because the people that visit them are dead (inside) and suck
I wonder if reducing the turnover rate on 4chan would be a useful thing. Honestly what they should do is allow the thread OP to delete replies. It will turn into stupidity for troll threads, but in actual decent threads it will go a long way in stopping trolls from derailing. 4chan mods have shown enough at this point they're not too concerned with fixing the site, so at this point some form of self-moderation is probably worth considering.
My opinion can probably go fuck itself but here it is.....
Most people, mainly Gen.Y(Millennials) and Gen.Z individuals crave attention from their digital social lives. I myself fall under Gen.Y although, I could care less about attention. These individuals are use to having fancy website features with fancy interfaces etc. They don't know how to express their thoughts in a communicative way on sites like this because it lacks the aesthetics they're use to having in their daily lives.
To them, sites like these suck and doesn't offer them a way to get that attention they so desperately crave. They've lost touch (if they ever even had it to begin with) with how to converse with other people about common topics because again, they've been showered with likes, shares, re-tweets, emojis, hearts, overall attention etc....
Honestly, I can't even be mad at them because it's the large corporations that take over huge percentages of the internet traffic and offer locked-down static-styled designs with dynamic content created by the users. The young teens/adults probably have never even seen a site like this before because it's not something their popular inner-circle of fake friends use or talk about.
Everyday sites like this get the life slowly choked out of them by these large corps. The nets just not as decentralized as it once was and that makes me sad. My children will probably never know about sites like this if I don't show them because it's not something popular that has an app for a smart device.
That's all I can really say. We're in a losing battle with large corps. over our freedom of expression whether it be in the form of communicating or artistically expressing ourselves.
Long live image/text boards!
My opinion can probably go fuck itself but here it is.....
Most people, mainly Gen.Y(Millennials) and Gen.Z individuals crave attention from their digital social lives. I myself fall under Gen.Y although, I could care less about attention. These individuals are use to having fancy website features with fancy interfaces etc. They don't know how to express their thoughts in a communicative way on sites like this because it lacks the aesthetics they're use to having in their daily lives.
To them, sites like these suck and doesn't offer them a way to get that attention they so desperately crave. They've lost touch (if they ever even had it to begin with) with how to converse with other people about common topics because again, they've been showered with likes, shares, re-tweets, emojis, hearts, overall attention etc....
Honestly, I can't even be mad at them because it's the large corporations that take over huge percentages of the internet traffic and offer locked-down static-styled designs with dynamic content created by the users. The young teens/adults probably have never even seen a site like this before because it's not something their popular inner-circle of fake friends use or talk about.
Everyday sites like this get the life slowly choked out of them by these large corps. The nets just not as decentralized as it once was and that makes me sad. My children will probably never know about sites like this if I don't show them because it's not something popular that has an app for a smart device.
That's all I can really say. We're in a losing battle with large corps. over our freedom of expression whether it be in the form of communicating or artistically expressing ourselves.
Long live image/text boards!
>>56
I would say it isn't just attention, but rather stimulus. The younger someone is the easier they are to be distracted.
It doesn't help that exploiting this drive and lack of self-control is profitable, thus, indeed, making these large corporations only more influential.
>We're in a losing battle with large corps. over our freedom of expression whether it be in the form of communicating or artistically expressing ourselves.
Yup. Why do you think cyberpunk as a genre stopped being good after the late 90's? Because we're living in it now.
Also, to give my two cents. This site's as alive as it needs to be. I'd rather have a mostly-dead site with a quality post every week or so than to go sifting through the septic tank that is 4/v/ looking for something fun. Don't get me wrong, I wish there were more users here and that the site wouldn't be as slow, but sometimes you just have to accept what you have.
I agree. I wished this site had more concurrent users but I'm glad it has what little it has.
Text-board sites like this are almost considered "dead" when compared to image-boards because they're all the rage with people who are into these types of sites. Image-boards are also almost considered "dead" when compared with other non-anonymous type sites like Reddit etc.
It's funny because if I ask people if they've ever visited Anonymous-type sites like this they have no clue what I'm even talking about because they've only used modern privacy invasive sites like Facebook, Instagram, Google, and all the popular apps as well.
Text-board sites are kinda like IRC, they both have unique people with specific tastes that are low in numbers when compared with more modern services used but I love text-board sites which is why I'm currently in the process of developing my own from-scratch text-board software because I'm tired of using the same old abandoned software that everyone else keeps circulating/using.
Mine will allow you to create your own threads and gives you a special code to allow moderating the replies. Essentially the thread creator will be like a mod or janitor. You'll also be able to decide if your thread is public(link posted once created) or private(you must share your thread link for others to know it exits).
>Essentially the thread creator will be like a mod or janitor.
That sounds like a pretty bad idea, anon.
I thought so at first too, but I decided that the thread creator will honestly want their thread to thrive and do well so giving them the ability to keep spam reply's at bay is a plus because it will remove the need for mods. Let me clarify though that the thread creators will not be able to delete reply's only hide them. I'll have a link at the bottom or top to show all hidden reply's or re-hide them so everyone will have the ability to still see reply's that have been hidden. Not sure if that's the best way to go but I figured it should work in theory to allow thread creators to keep their threads alive with as little derailment from shit-posters as possible while also not crushing anyone's free speech.
apparently it was only dead because people weren't posting about coomers
You're probably correct. A lot of people probably visit here daily but don't contribute anything because they don't see any newer threads just the same old washed up threads that get new lives when someone posts to it.
Honestly, the owner should make it so once the thread is, lets say a month old, you cannot add any new reply's. That will entice people to at least re-create older threads or create new ones.
>>65
Being able to reply but not bumping the thread would be better.
>>62
That would be pretty cool to see. You'd probably still want some measure against the creation of threads with the purpose of spamming.
The other problem is, with slow, long-running threads like these, OP will eventually forget about the thread. I don't really see a good way to get around an absentee OP, unless you wanted to have OPs provide email addresses that reports would be sent to, or something weird like that. I'm not a fan of that from an anonymity standpoint though.
But wouldn't that mean you would have no clue what threads have new reply's? Because the thread wouldn't be bumped so it would seem it was dead.
>You'd probably still want some measure against the creation of threads with the purpose of spamming.
Yeah, that's a hard one to come by without mods to moderate the boards themselves.
>The other problem is, with slow, long-running threads like these, OP will eventually forget about the thread.
Maybe after a certain amount of time has elapsed with an absentee OP the thread could be handed off to someone else possibly? Idk, that also is a hard one to fix.
>>68
What I proposed would just stop people from bumping old threads with stupid posts.
If a thread doesn't get any new replies for X months (every board should have different settings) then the thread is ''archived'' and all new replies in that thread will be posted with an automatic sage.
>>70
That's a permasage. It is normally applied to "low-quality-yet-not-spam" threads.
It stops people from necroposting, but it also kills the thread faster.
Though I think the thread is already dead if it hasn't got any new replies for months...
I understand what you're saying now. If it was me I would lock the thread after so many weeks/months of the thread's creation date to archive it but make it read-only so people can still enjoy it if it has good content and shitposters can't ruin it.
What? There's nothing to permasage. Wouldn't do any good.
We've been saying the same things for ages and ages. Everybody's sick of it.
I get more kicks out of some aged crap thread from long ago that might actually have one witty comment than the typical inconsequential thread posted today. Just saying.
What is "permasage"? I tried looking it up online but found no clear definition.
>>75
The traditional method of killing off irredeemably bad threads on textboards, since closing and deleting threads entirely is viewed as tyrannical censorship. Permasaging instead makes it so new replies can't bump the thread on the list, even if the replier doesn't sage their own post.
Try posting in this permasaged thread and observe how it stays buried: http://4-ch.net/general/kareha.pl/1335104919/l50
>I get more kicks out of some aged crap thread from long ago that might actually have one witty comment than the typical inconsequential thread posted today.
Are you saying that you're okay with people bumping old and done threads with idiotic posts for shit and giggles or that you just like revisiting old funny threads?
I hope it's the latter.
>>77
Mostly the latter, but even an idiotic necropost can serve up an entertaining thread once in a while.
>>70
Why do you consider a bad thing for people to bump old threads? I fail to see the negative meaning of bumping old threads.
it isn't much dead, it has few users because people wants stupid simple new designs on websites like facebook! This is so fuckin' stupid, i want to stay here! Not being brainwashed by some cringy blue design for little kids
>>82
The "dead board" threads have always been the most active, haven't they...
4-ch is “dead” because it lacks exposure and can’t reel in new users. It’s pretty obvious that text/image boards are on the rocks. Gen Z not only doesn’t use them because they lack the features of invasive cooperate social media, but see these types of sites as dangerous, full of right wingers, schizos and autists etc. Even 4chan’s days are numbered. Only an older generation use these sites anymore and once we’re die out it’s all over. That being said, 4-ch would probably be more active if had decent exposure and was a little easier to find. Places like lamechan are still semi-active because there’s a unique aesthetic and sense of community that keeps people coming back. 4-ch is pretty bland and boring and you can find the same type of stuff on more active image boards which have pictures on them. Its like when your a kid and you’ll only read books with pictures in them so you don’t have to stare at a wall of text.
>>85
Nope, Squeeks handed it off to someone named 'bps' several years ago, who in turn handed it off to the current admin 'ssz' somewhat recently.
Easy to confuse this place with 4chan for people not in the know. Site has no exposure whatsoever.
>88 I mean, it has almost the exact same name. Lmao
>>89
Not if it means a site is getting no new users at all. I'm all for gatekeeping but this is more like a well kept secret so well hidden nobody can find it. A place like that is bound to die.
>>93
this site used to get a lot of traffic. post more often and tell your friends
This site has like, one moderator why would you even consider getting rid of captcha. Considering how simple the captcha system is I'm surprised this side doesn't get spammed to oblivion like the other 90% of naked Wakaba boards.
Kareha textboards should have a different dynamic than imageboards, but because of the dominance of 4chan-like imageboards, textboards are mostly used as imageboards-without-images which is boring. Thus 4-ch is dead.
Because admin deletes you posts when you start discussing the nigger problem. Be a good boy and discuss your anime and videogames, niggers shouldn't concern you, having no kids or job despite your age shouldn't concern you either, play the videogames boy.
>>103
There are 7 threads with 'nigger' in the subject line on this board, only 5 of which are permasaged. There are 5 nigger threads on /dqn/ and 2 threads on /current/, none of which are permasaged. The problem isn't your melanin fetish, it's that people would find your posts cringe and pathetically edgy even over on Trump's Twitter knockoff.
There is a sea of difference between saying nigger and killing a nigger. And discussing how you should deport them in nigeria.
Yeah, I'd probably be too overworked to even think straight if I had job and kids. Though I guess it depends on a job.
Hurr durr muh en word hehehehe
>>96
That’s the main problem with this site. There’s nothing unique here that would actually encourage people to use it. It’s just a low traffic image board without images. Show this to your friends, I dare you, and what would they see? A dead board with a dozen or so threads with nigger or Jew in the title. There’s nothing that brings people here.
>>108
Being a kareha textboard and being somewhat unintuitive to use, it feels a little nostalgic, but otherwise, yeah, I guess there isn't an immediate appeal. I'll still use it thought ¯\(ツ)/¯
>>108
And yet I remain, probably because every thread isn't filled with nigger or jew and how the world is ending.
I think the thing that brings people her is the fact that there is nothing that brings people here. It's slow, there's nothing in particular. It's just relaxing.
This place will shit itself the second it starts getting new users, tech is just hopelessly outdated.
My friends are here, new users can go shit themselves.
4-ch is dead from your point of view. In actually, 4-ch is still alive.
it is pretty dead for most purposes besides of being an online notepad
>>115 This... I get the feeling there's people mistakenly expecting something else
Even on 2chan, many threads have replies months a part. BBs are traditionally slower. You should really be using BBS software, like Newsboat, to get updates when someone posts.
You guys call it dead because you're zoomers with ADHD,
>>120
Just a little annoying clarification: 2channel, it's called 2channel (it goes by 5ch or 5channel now).
2chan is Futaba, the imageboard.
>>120
I have a similar perspective. I think most people that go on text/imageboards have the expectation that they'll be just an anonymized chatroom*, but really it's a format that enables much slower-paced discussion. I post something on a few threads that I'm interested in, and then check back in a few days or weeks to see how the discussion has progressed. It's like a (slightly) more civilized equivalent of bathroom stall writings.
>It's like a (slightly) more civilized equivalent of bathroom stall writings
I like this analogy.
>>121
There are still threads on 5ch from 2006. That's impressive.
You can get a text board experience if you browse 4chan with w3m
You can use an external browser keybinding for posting too.
it's semi-dead
4-ch isn’t dead. It’s basically a nursing home for oldfags. Every now and then, one of them will die off or can’t make it up the stairs to /dqn/ and activity dips. If a certain someone didn’t scare off new users with their “oh those fucking newfags get off my board!” act, this place would be way more lively. Although I will admit it is pretty funny watching him loose his shit for no reason whenever a kid from Heyuri posts here.
The parker saga was the funniest to me in recent years. If we didn't have autistic newfags like that it just wouldn't be the same. Loved illegally AA raping him and his raccoon.
>>129 I agree, it's part of the fun, and a counterblast to those who say the Eternal September is over
>this website has been dead for over 12 years
lmao. But yeah it's a fucking textboard in [current year] and part of a pretty obscure subculture to boot. I don't think any gatekeeping is even necessary because the format itself and the slow speed (with it's lack of instant gratification) repels social media zombies. Even "New users" who wander in here from 4chan or wherever else are probably already the type to fit in, or otherwise make like 3 posts, get laughed off the board, and never return.
>If a certain someone didn’t scare off new users with their “oh those fucking newfags get off my board!” act
Nobody gets scared off by that. Do newfags like this really think that talking shit to someone online and telling them to fuck off works? That anyone ever heard "omg fuk off bro" and then went "oh i guess im not welcome then i better leave"? Really?
>talking shit to someone online and telling them to fuck off works
I think I have seen people being repelled from boards due to their experience with one or two posters. One poster replies with some edgy racist/transphobic/antisemtic crap, and the newfag says “oh, so this is some gross far right internet hole? Count me out!”
Not quite the same, but I still think making fun of posters who are new has dissuaded new users at least once too.
Of course, on an anonymous forum it's possible that they assimilated and never spoke about it again, but still used the site. But I've seen users with distinct posting styles disappear after getting the piss ripped out of them by other users.
Not just repelled from new boards, I've left boards I've browsed for years purely because of one or two new posters that dominated all conversation and destroyed all existing culture.
I guess it does happen then. Bizarre to me. But maybe that's because my homeboard in the day was /b/ and my introduction to imageboards was being called a fucking faggot newfag and getting gore and other shit spammed at me. I never would have guessed people got run off of an anonymous place before when it's as simple as blending in with everyone else. On a typical forum everyone knows who you are. Places like this take that continual identity out of the equation.
You are completely missing the point.
It has nothing to do with identity and anonymity. People who aren't teenagers don't want to waste their energy on edgy teenagers and they definitely don't want to blend in with annoying retards so they leave. The end.
>>136 Sounds like you didn't lurk enough, or else they wouldn't have noticed your newfaggotry
>>138
Everyone gets called a newfag for shit there. I forget what I even said as my first post. But I've been on imageboards now since 2006. I still get called a newfag and I've been around longer than moot or any of the people calling me one at this point. Nobody ever followed the "lurk moar" thing.
>post deleted
I guess some feelings got hurt. Why is every anonymous space so fucking touchy these days? May as well be on reddit at this point.
2. You will immediately cease and not continue to access the site if you are under the age of 18.
Hot take but quantity is always better than quality for image boards.
"But they will ruin our tight-knit community and obscure culture!"
What good is that if only dozen people check the site over the span of a month? I prefer more activity.
>>145
Dumb cunt. Have you even seen 4chan lately?
Quality > Quantity for any website, ever. Giving internet access to the unwashed masses and third worlders has been a gigantic mistake.
What good is any community if any intelligent, meaningful conversation there is drowned out by retarded jabbering?