IPv6 (23)

1 Name: 404 - Name Not Found : 2006-03-15 22:19 ID:FGrBs96A This thread was merged from the former /net/ board. You can view the archive here.

When do you think people will start to switch en masse?
If you don't think they ever will, what will happen instead? A slow trickle? Some other Internet protocol?
For bonus points, rationalize your prediction and include references to support it.

I'm saying January 2008. I just pulled that out of my ass.

2 Name: 404 - Name Not Found : 2006-03-15 23:38 ID:Heaven

slow trickle for now. I predict the flood to ip6 will occur in near future for billions of Chinese and Indians.

3 Name: 404 - Name Not Found : 2006-03-16 02:42 ID:FGrBs96A

But how near? Near future could be anything.

4 Name: 404 - Name Not Found : 2006-03-16 09:05 ID:ioE1bDsH

The Robots have taken me. Please send help.

5 Name: 404 - Name Not Found : 2006-03-17 12:28 ID:uRgzY6Ed

I'd place my bet within 10 years. If there's one reason to get more IPs provided by IP6, it's because of the chinese and indians.

6 Name: 404 - Name Not Found : 2006-03-18 03:30 ID:Heaven

"Within 10 years"? That's the internet equivalent of saying you think gasoline engines will be replaced within 100 years.

7 Name: 404 - Name Not Found : 2006-03-20 23:39 ID:io3WnyOo

Truth. The internet pretty much began just 12 years ago.

8 Name: 404 - Name Not Found : 2006-03-22 22:49 ID:yp54BWFX

That's exactly the reason why I estimated 10 years.

9 Name: 404 - Name Not Found : 2006-03-24 05:06 ID:qcBtBqi0


10 Name: reiin : 2006-03-26 07:27 ID:SNJR/BhR

theyve been talking about the new protcol for a while now havent they?

11 Name: 404 - Name Not Found : 2006-03-27 15:53 ID:Heaven

How are you supposed to do a simple ping or tracert with those long-ass addresses?

12 Name: 404 - Name Not Found : 2006-03-27 17:27 ID:AKaKWYc6


13 Name: 404 - Name Not Found : 2007-03-26 23:22 ID:6A6dK2Tp

bumping the thread back into existence because it looks interesting, and I want to talk about it.

Ars Technica calculates that we'll be out of IPv4 addresses in less than 7.5 years (as of early 2007). So there's an estimate shorter than "about ten years". Japan already has widespread ipv6 deployment, and the US Government is requiring all agencies to support it by 2008.

Hoping to breathe life into the discussion: do you think that the transition to IPv6 can still be a smooth one, or do you think it's too late for that and it's going to resemble more of an avalanche?

14 Name: 404 - Name Not Found : 2007-03-30 08:09 ID:vLfkzbN9

Imminent death of the internet predicted!

Film at 11.

15 Name: 404 - Name Not Found : 2007-04-01 16:32 ID:SbovvGJE


16 Name: 404 - Name Not Found : 2007-04-04 15:01 ID:3PMvPaF5

No matter if the transition is smooth or not, I hope that providers will start enabling at least multicast. That would be wonderful for p2p.

Me, I'm ready to go full ipv6 when my ISP does (Well, some really old boxes aside).

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18 Name: 404 - Name Not Found : 2007-04-19 02:13 ID:QkHBcAWb

As of December 2005, IPv6 accounts for a tiny percentage of the live addresses in the publicly-accessible Internet, which is still dominated by IPv4. The adoption of IPv6 has been slowed by the introduction of classless inter-domain routing (CIDR) and network address translation (NAT), each of which has partially alleviated the impact of address space exhaustion. Estimates as to when the pool of available IPv4 addresses will be exhausted vary — in 2003, Paul Wilson (director of APNIC) stated that, based on then-current rates of deployment, the available space would last until 2023,[3] while in September 2005 a report by Cisco Systems that the pool of available addresses would be exhausted in as little as 4–5 years.[4] As of November 2006, a regularly updated report projected that the IANA pool of unallocated addresses would be exhausted in May 2011, with the various Regional Internet Registries using up their allocations from IANA in August 2012.[5] This report also argues that, if assigned but unused addresses were reclaimed and used to meet continuing demand, allocation of IPv4 addresses could continue until 2024. The U.S. Government has specified that the network backbones of all federal agencies must deploy IPv6 by 2008.[6] Meanwhile China is planning to get a head start implementing IPv6 with their 5 year plan for the China Next Generation Internet.

With the notable exceptions of stateless autoconfiguration, more flexible addressing and Secure Neighbor Discovery (SEND), many of the features of IPv6 have been ported to IPv4 in a more or less elegant manner. Thus IPv6 deployment is primarily driven by address space exhaustion.

19 Name: 404 - Name Not Found : 2007-04-19 02:16 ID:QkHBcAWb

IPv6 multicast works in exactly the same way that IPv4 multicast works. There are different sizes of padding and address fields in packet headers, but it's roughly the same.

20 Name: 404 - Name Not Found : 2007-04-25 23:22 ID:PZKvPsbI

Well, yeah. But ISPs don't implement ipv4 multicast. And I hope that when they'll upgrade their equipment eventually, they'll also consider doing multicast, to take some work off their pipes by creating the possibility to make p2p more effective.

21 Name: 404 - Name Not Found : 2007-05-07 03:12 ID:FGrBs96A

IPv6 seems to keep having security problems due to bad design. Type 0 route headers, for example. That shouldn't have even happened.

22 Name: 404 - Name Not Found : 2007-05-12 19:13 ID:Heaven

Vista Vista Vista.

23 Name: 404 - Name Not Found : 2019-11-21 05:51 ID:dJY71OHk


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