New Homestar Runner cartoon to celebrate its 25 years on this widest of world webs:
Why did we undo Flash only to reinvent it all with this HTML5 canvas JavaScript sorcery? I assumed the point was that all the multimedia/interactivity was gimmicky for web pages, as well as proprietary.
Now everything is just in the browser--including Flash emulators like Ruffle. You can even highly obfuscate code, effectively run malware (crypto miners and so on).
Bring back Flash!
Every time I find a new textboard, I keep seeing the same names over and over. "kuz", "heyuri", "4x13", and I sense a general atmosphere where everybody knows each other. I remember namefags in my day, but it's different from that because it feels like everybody knows each other even when they're posting anonymously.
>>9
You get it. I'd even have a dosbox emulator embedded into the board, and custom levels could be shared and played by everybody without having to download them.
>>9
i liked those gimmick boards where OP could be .it/.xm/.mod files and i'd like to see more stuff like that. you'd have to be careful though, sounds like it could be exploited.
> you'd have to be careful though, sounds like it could be exploited
In a world full of anonymizers, bots and spammer sweatshops, I feel like "careful" isn't good enough any more. You either have to commit to constantly cleaning up the mess bad actors make like we see here, make people have accounts/verification hoops to jump through that kind of defeats the point, or maybe you have some genius solution that's beyond my ability to think up.
This is why we can't have nice things.
>spacehey
as a quite avid user of that site, it's always (pleasantly) surprising to see it mentioned in the wild
>>14
erm as a quite avid user its pleasant to be a faggot outside of my faggot zone
they are the same people, you retard
it is called propaganda, children doing propaganda
they are children who want to make names for themselves
who is kuz? who is heyuri? 4x13 equals 52 i do not know
i do not know because i am not a child
>>12
Kills me that the few places that did have module/tracker boards are now dead-dead. I can't even think of one that's still around?
iiichan is gone, sovietrussia is gone. There might have been more but I can't remember them.
Chris-Chan just raped his mom and was arrested for incest.
https://sonichu.com/cwcki/Chris%27s_letter_from_jail
Chris is doomed
doom doom doom the end
>>409
This is a very interesting development.
Repent ye sinners for the Messiah is upon us.
good riddence!
how did he get away with it??? Maybe the dimensional merge is real
>>23
A year and a half in solitary confinement is "getting away with it"?
Regardless because he is completely gone mentally, in a lot of countries that did deinstitutionalisation crazy people are just kind of allowed to roam the streets despite what the state says for a myriad of reasons, but commonly it's just because the staff of the jail or the psychiatric hospital or whatever doesn't want to deal with a problem patient over years
Chris now has a girlfriend (may even knock her up), travels to Finland regularly, and is seemingly invincible. Thread title didn't age well.
What happened to textboard.org? Didn't bother to visit for a while and now I see it's down. Is it gone forever?
The last valid shot in WebArchive is just some file collection.
I miss it too. Even though it was filled with a lot of spam and shitposting towards the end of it's existence, I think there still was some good discussions going on there. It would be interesting to know whether this is a temporary thing or if it's gone 5ever now, but judging from it's short phase, where it intentionally only served some files, I think it's safe to assume it's gone. No place really feels the same like it does. Rest in peace SchemeBBS.
That site was ugly as all hell. Like a textboard without any of the charm. Unless I'm mistaking it for another site
Its gone? RIP schemeBBS
Did anyone grab an archive of the boards? Some of the discussions on there were amazing.
It came as a shock to me when it disappeared, it was probably one of my favourite textboards. Having felt personally responsible for kicking off several of the more interesting threads on there, it feels quite lonesome now that its gone. Bitdiddle could have at least announced he was going to take the site down or post an archive in the file list or something.
It had a very unique balance between actual thought-provoking discussion, creativity, and shitposting. If any recent site were worthy of inheriting the title of
i miss it :/
Can anyone access afternoon.dynu.com i.e Post Office?
I'm worried it's taken down because for the last week at least, it just throws 404s.
It was a really nice, chill place except for one tard posting links. Hope it's not been killed.
I only usually visit this textboard, I don't know if there is any other one in English that is just as active, i would enter 2ch or 5ch but I don't live in Japan and I don't even know Japanese
Obviously here
Also SAOVQ, sageru.org dis.tinychan, textboard.org, bbs.gikopoi, boards.graybox, etc
>>2
faggot
Looks like SAoVQ is being DDOS'd?
I can't post there or on the PostOffice.
>>2 is right. That is the most active textboard even if it sucks Kuz’s AIDS ridden cock.
This thread was obviously made only to be repeatedly bumped to shill shituri.
>>2
globohomo shillery for the most retarded retards.
>>2
globohetero organic promotion for the most smartest aryans
Danger/u/ is pretty active.
I want something similar to Strange World (ex, https://ayashii.net ) but behaves more like Kareha and other 2ch-likes. In addition, I would rather that new threads belong to "tags" than "boards"
This is what I have so far:
demo https://bbs.gikopoi.com/
src https://github.com/153/pohon2
Aside from having a tags feature (which will be improved soon), there is also a "tree view" that can make conversations a little easier to follow, and there are also Atom feeds for all site threads, each tag, and all recent site comments.
What do you think would be some cool features to add ?
I've been asked multiple times to make the site more "mobile friendly" -- that's a hard no, there. Posts from people sitting on the toilet add nothing to the site.
Hello, Tokiko
The truth is we don't need more textboards or more textboard softwares. We need more people to want to use them or a niche community that decides to use one. The best textboard software is either Kareha or something built to imitate it as much as possible.
Just look at this thread, immaculate perfection. Looks great on desktop, looks great on mobile.
Yours is kind of an eyesore. The colors while not completely your design are painful to read, the font is annoying and the whitespace is a bit too big. Here it's comfortable and easy to read. Everything is spotless.
Even just putting a grey-ish background, black text color, and removing the uncomfortable font your BBS becomes much more readable and less straining on the eyes.
If one wants to use a tag system then a Kareha clone with tags instead of boards would suffice. It doesn't need to be more unique than that, and in fact it may actually serve to alienate a few people who otherwise would be interested.
Also poipoi is the one true site also the game.
Forgot to mention, but I also agree phone users are worthless contributors and nothing more than mindless consumers and responds with 1 sentence using buzzwords or catch phrases to stroke their ego. However, it can be nice to mindlessly surf and read on the toilet and reply from a computer later so you'll want to cater to those because someone may discover your website while on the toilet. One way to prevent posting is to use a useragent or window size css detection to disable posting from mobile by throwing an error or just hiding the post form.
> We need more people to want to use them or a niche community that decides to use one.
Valid point
> [the stylesheet sucks]
The initial design is meant to be more of a homage to sites running "Strange World" (like ayashii.net) than Kareha and friends, but I think a Kareha-esque alternative stylesheet down the line will definitely be a thing.
Do you think the current stylesheet/UI is better than SW's? I do, but I'm obviously biased.
> [why not just make a kareha with tags?]
I personally like the pseud0ch theme a lot. It's hard to pander to the broader, "normie" audience when it comes to UX design, because what normal people want is Material/Facebook/Corpo-chic superflat garbage that's designed mostly to signal to consumers that you spent a lot on a graphic designer. You seldom see a nice, static, geocities-style website anymore, except among web developers. Aesthetically, they can be both awful and amazing. It's more about the resources used and what they represent though. Among developers who are more sensetive to web bloat and worthless js frameworks and infinite scroll hamburgers, a small, static website with a little character is king.
As of today, works with various tags have been filtered from DLSite in the West. It's currently unknown how many things have been filtered. The most famous tag that is gone is "petite" (formerly known as loli).
Try and search for any game with the tag, and then search for it by VPN from Japan instead.
Here is the link to games tagged as "petite", try it from any Western nation, then again from Japan.
https://www.dlsite.com/maniax/fsr/=/genre/207/from/work.genre
This is believed to be due to the pressure from Mastercard and Visa who have seemingly cut them off previously, along with Pixiv and other sites who have been economically forced in to censorship.
10 months ago, this also happened
DLGetchu has sent an email to creators that they are no longer going to sell anything under the genres the credit card companies blacklisted
I'm sure the cryptobros will come up with a viable solution, won't they?
>>3
They already accept crypto because of this. It is a viable solution if you don't mind lower sales volume.
Knock on crypto all you want for the scam shitcoin market, but to make fun of crypto for the one thing it actually works well for and is being used for in trillion dollar industries to avoid laws and regulations is pretty stupid.
I know someone who was persistently claiming they'd never accept crypto (too old to understand, didn't like it), then they got blocked by all the banks and alternative payment providers out there and now they only accept crypto and their sales volume is the same as before. If there's a will there's a market.
It seems like the web is getting harder to use.
Or maybe I'm just getting older.
I am not adapting well to the future at all.
Something I deeply hate about modern web are the tables or objects that don't load instantly and move everything on the site every other second.
Do you want to click this little link? Too bad, it moved to load our ad.
Oh, you think you got it this time? Fuck you! It moved again to load an empty box begging you to subscribe/turn off ad blocker!
You thought you were done? Have a funny pop-up show up exactly where you want to click! Now you have to input your email address DIPSHIT!!!
The new authentication standards and machine learning legislation companies are pushing for could be really bad
>Speaking of the link directories, why hasn't anyone made a wiki style link directory that anyone can contribute to? Perhaps it already exists but a quick search gave me nothing worthwhile.
I've been thinking about something like this. Kinda want to make a wiki + imageboard for "weird website exploration". You know, like for cataloging indieweb projects + "weird" shit like ARGs, etc.
Think there'd be enough community for something like that, or is that too niche?
>>35
I know this won't be helpful, but DMOZ existed, which may have been similar to what you are describing (I've never actually used it before went offline.)
>>41
I'd think that there is definitely a community for that!
If not, at least 10 other people and myself will visit your website, although I genuinely encourage the creation of something like that.
On a side note, here's a link dump thread some of you may find interesting.
http://secretareaofvipquality.org/read.cgi/saovq/1444128918
>>41
feel free to use https://wiki.gikopoi.com
>>35,41
Well, I think at a certain scale, that kind of project inevitably becomes a search engine, because nobody can be asked to keep up-do-date with it all, and small, static sites are very ephemeral.
To that point, there's marginalia.nu, and there's also that premium Kagi search engine that I think focuses on human-made content for a ridiculous fee.
I think Gnome has found a good compromise in between the trendy superflat style and the far more practical skeuomorphism of 2000's ux. You can certainly tell what all the icons are supposed to represent. I think the two things inhibiting people from using more skeumorphic design is the fact that it's not in style and that it's more technically challenging than superflat design and therefore requires more resources. But, yeah, the original iOS icon pack was perfect; we had no idea how good we had it.
>>33
Notably, the peelopaalu guy as of 20/JULY/2024 has quit maintaining the link list because "The Internet these days is just fucking wack and I do not care about it. Nothing specific has triggered this, I just spend very little of my personal time having fun online like I did 10, 15, or 20 years ago. It's just not the same for me anymore, and it's time to move on."
Fitting.
we need totally different kind of network based on trust, otherwise bots and shills will spam it to shit like what we have now with Internet. something like FidoNet was.
I once uploaded Kareha onto a server I was running from home, purely just to test the software and study the code. I didn't advertise the board to anybody, and only made three test threads. Amazingly, after having forgotten about the board, and coming back a year later, I found it full of spam and links.
Everybody knows about textboard spam, wakaba's /soc/ board was removed after being spammed to oblivion, the site that wrote the original gazouBBS (futaba's sourcecode) script's demonstration boards were also full of spam comments written in English, so on, we've all seen it.
Where is it actually coming from though? Has anybody ever gone down the rabbithole of internet spam and bots? How do they find no-name sites that nobody visits? What is their end goal? Who actually runs these bots? Is anybody even running these bots or have they been on autopilot for decades? Is there a network of spammers? What is your experience with spam?
Within the past three years or so, "scambaiting" has become a popular genre of youtube and twitch content, with people investigating tech support scammers and robotcallers and whatnot, but I feel like nobody really cares about the rabbithole of people spamming on websites, when it is just as vast and fascinating.
https://desuarchive.org/g/thread/98445659/#98450771
Here's a link.
Necro, so it wouldnt have been known as well back in 2021 when you posted, but androxgh0st is a (now) well known malicious web scanner that tries to scan sites for exposed credentials and then tries to use those credentials to compromise your assets so that they can be used as part of a spam botnet.
Feds have good details on it now https://www.cisa.gov/news-events/cybersecurity-advisories/aa24-016a
androxgh0st will probe a page with POST requests sending strings similar to what you mentioned in the message body, so if your form method is POST on the emailer page, it may be taking that message body and doing the needful with it and sending it to you as an email according to whatever logic you have setup to handle the form.
>>55
That's something that has been bothering me for so long, you could look up the most random of queries like "steven universe background art" and get those sites
>>53
that is old as fuck lol the owner of jschan (tom) had discovered that the cp poster was a real person
null has mentioned once or twice that he thinks it's feasible the background radiation of spam to be prevented, but that Cloudflare, Google, etc. choose not to because they passively profit from it. I don't know how that's possible, but perhaps the specifics don't even matter, as long as the incentive structure is there. The actual spam is just entropy in principle.
And it doesn't help that very few people actually use the clearnet and are instead populating the massive darknets that have cannibalized the Internet such as the site formerly known as Twitter, Facebook, Discord. And I do mean darknet, because you can't access any of that stuff publically, can't even scrape most things anymore; you need to make an account and an api key -- and even then, it's not easy to get a clear picture of what's going on.
spam, i.e. unsolicited content, comes from people unsolicited by real economy, i.e. spam. you are spam, and your parents who made you for personal entertainment are spammers.
>>61
Given that pretty much everything Google does exists to be a vector for their adcrap, I wouldn't be surprised at all if they have some deals made to consider some spammers "legitimate" on things like search and GMail as long as they get a cut of the profits. I definitely get far less spam on the other mailboxes I switched to when I ditched GMail, but it's hard to tell how much that's GMail vs. how much I might've given the old address to some site that sold it around. (I also speculate that there might be spammers who just make up random GMail addresses on a bot to send spam to, but that's just speculation.)
As for your bit on the abandonment of WWW pages for things like Discord, on the one hand it does kind of suck, but on the other it's kind of understandable, running a WWW page is exhausting since you're basically putting it out there for any rando to interact with. And it's not just spam or what you'd probably think of as "bad attention", even having "fans" can lead to a lot of tiring "when update?" type messages, or trying to recruit you to their project that's vaguely related to your site topic (talking here about people who are "real" as opposed to driveby spam). So I can see the appeal of wanting to just make a friend group and share stuff to them instead of the world at large.
As for the topic of spamposts on boards like this one in particular, I do wonder if part of the scam is in the redirect links themselves; I know some redirector sites also run a "show ads on the redirection page, give you a cut" racket.
Kind of spooky when you think about it
http://www.techcrunch.com/2006/10/09/google-has-acquired-youtube/
Seems like a perfect match. Google is the best company they could've sold out to.
>>30
I can't take it anymore. There's just too much stuff hitting you all at once whenever you use a large enough site. Its frying my brain.
Stop using them less and less, then. If you go out of your way to engage, then you're going to see it. I understand it's hard not to - it's an impulse we've wired into our brains - but you can slowly taper away.
If possible, spend more and more time away from the computer. There is so much in the world for you to do that you could almost never even need one. Just learn to use it less, do more in real life that will keep you occupied so you don't open up Twitter or 4chan just because you're bored and eventually you just stop giving a shit for the most part.
things really went to shit in the 18 years since this post was made
agreed. my invidious instance doesn't even work anymore because of "community safety". ffs, I'm using an invidious instance [i]because[/i] I'm concerned about my safety. I don't mind advertisements per se, but the logical conclusion of the advertiser model is drm, insane amounts of data harvesting, and forced accounts.
Google must burn
Is there a working way to download the videos to a local file in [CURRENTMONTH]? The VLC trick and ssyoutube worked earlier this year but it seems both of them have been killed recently.
>>36
How do you not know about yt-dlp?
I just downloaded something two hours ago and it worked just fine. If it doesn't work, you can try circumventing blockage by using Tor with torsocks or a VPN. Try multiple times with a different proxy. J-Downloader 2 should still work too, if you prefer GUI, but I haven't tried it lately, so it might as well be kill in regards to Youtube.
>>1 fucking hell, i miss when this was a good thing
haven't watched a YouTube video since 2018.