List the most awful websites you have come across on the internet!
http://www.aiseikai.or.jp/
http://stikked.luisaranguren.com/ is a dumb website. They remove user's pastes for no real reason.
>>226
Update: somewhat of a good ending (for now)
See:
vc: quadeer
Pray tell, my dearest OddGrenadier, how much have you donated to the Internet Archive?
This one lol.
Shit's full of pedos in a good amount of servers.
What happened to 7clams?
On this site, it's Tanasinn. Hands down. The colors compliment each other.
Blue Moon. I love it so much.
My designs on other websites are inspired by its colors.
Default one. It's good enough.
Pseud0ch because it's the traditional textboard aesthetic.
Sometimes maybe Buun because it's not too different
twitter sucks. so why does everybody LOVE twitter? i don’t give a shit about what other people are doing. if you’re bored enough to twitter, then why would I care about your boring life? i also hate the cutesy layout. it's all “bubbly” and light-blue and it makes me rage.
>>24
I got nostalgic and decided to go to this place to see if it still existed (which it does). Holy fucking crap, did I really use to post shit like this?
>>28
Did you smile smugly while saying heh after every post?
Looking forward to your answer in 5 years.
>>30
fuck you
oh, and forced anon on IAA? fuck you, ssz!
>>31
If that is you it is impressive to reply the day after, 7 years later, about a post from 6 years before then again.
Seriously, congratulations.
>>32
Im not them, I just really fucking hate you d(^_^)b
I've done nothing to deserve hatred.
You're not planning on namefagging, are you? Are you???
A thread on 4chan on productivity and addiction led to a discussion about Fear Of Missing Out in relation to online conversations, that due to its fast-moving (and in the case of *chans, temporary) it leads to a need to have your eyes on the screen and be glued there waiting for a response, because if you don't get in now you'll miss your chance.
This led me to thinking about how BBSs would have things like QWK and REP files so that you can pull down new comments while you upload your own comments and replies in one step, and can then disconnect. Then to wondering about a format where there would only be weekly "mail drops" where only messages sent before a certain day would get in on that drop.
I suppose the question is, do you think there's a place for a "slower" style of online discourse to take the place (only among certain people, certainly not the majority) of the faster, and FOMO-reliant, style that dominates the web now?
>QWK and REP
wat?
dude the main reason I'm here is because here threads don't get flushed into nothingness in seconds, but stay for years instead.
Usenet groups are superior version of the same thing, they still exist, and no one cares.
Technologically it is a solved problem. It's not very helpful against addiction (one can just click send and receive more often) or large volume of messages (spam killed usenet).
I have already seen software restraints to emulate the 90s - "you may only send messages once a day" experimental offline-first-lifestyle mailing client at hackernews. If that can do any good is anyone's guess.
>>4
The thing is while I'm using older technology as an example, I'm also not really wanting to "emulate the 90's" beyond just seeing if it is possible to have a more "offline" lifestyle without just using modern social media (which is really what the issue is) less, but rather thinking about either a new paradigm, or even resurrecting an old one.
The actual issue of connection now is solved, but it solved, but in solving it we have created new issues that, it seems to me, has a far more negative effect on people than the flaws of the past, that being that the internet is slow.
I guess what it all really comes down to is that I am just questioning the assumptions that we make about online conversion and whether we should change how we rate it and what standards we apply to it. Why do we call a community with less than a thousand people "dead"? Why do we call a message speed such that you can check once a week, "slow"? What is actually wrong with either of these things if you go to do other things.
It seems that so many people are ready to just go for total abstinence of the technology (NoSurf) rather than a reconsideration of standards.
These are good questions. A small board does not allow for endless doomscrolling and does nothing for the addicted. People who will try to replace a big board with a small one will become discontent. Slow = "the dopamine comes slower than before".
Therefore, I can see why one will try to quit cold turkey. It's a reasonable thing to try when all else fails.
Usenet groups. Yes the absurdly large group tree is a burden and does no good. Some slashdot people had similar idea as you did and picked one already existing group and posted or crossposted all their tech-related messages into it, as an attempt to revive usenet. So it has been tried at least once in relatively recent times (2015? 2018?)
>>5 Found it. Pony "a messenger for mindful correspondence".
>Pony "a messenger for mindful correspondence"
I looked in to it a bit, and while it seems like a good idea, it being an app somewhat distances itself from its own mission statement. Yes, the app itself will only deliver messages once a day, but it requires the device that you (mostly) carry with you constantly. Apparently the creator didn't want to just make it e-mail, but I really don't see why, and the reasons they gave for not don't really make much sense unless the reason is purely that he wanted to make money out of it (which he actually admitted in an interview).
>1st Paragraph
This is a good point, but I'm talking about more is that it's more an issue of standards, and it could even be argued that there's elements of surrogacy involved, where people are getting the social interaction online that they don't get in the real world. It's true that for the addicted the "slow net" would either be too little of "a hit" or even that they would use the "slow net" in addition to the "fast net," but I'm more coming at it from a different angle, that is the realigning of what we expect and want from the "digital life."
Then why are they always filled with conformists? Everyone on them conforms to the same thoughts and behaviors. Despite the fact that they don't have to because it is anonymous! They are like the 5 monkeys experiment played out. Why doesn't anyone use names or tripcodes frequently? Because a couple nerds 20 years ago wanted it that way and everyone just goes along with it. How foolish!
Now you might say other sites are filled with conformists too. And that just means there is nothing special about anonymous boards at all. The only thing that sets them apart is being populated by weird, mentally crippled nerds. If they were truly so great, you would see a much wider range of expression and experimentation in these places. But you don't. Because the people on them are too scared to be different even if no one knows who they are.
Imageboards are the places redditors go to when they want to say things they don't want to say on their reddit accounts.
>>38
They have more in common than both would like to admit. (This is also true of most other warring factions. Wait why are factions even warring? this is the internet)
>>40
I don't really know if they're warring anymore. Reddit is rarely invoked these days and there seems to be a general dislike of Discord on imageboards more than anything else.
Twitter also snowballs their culture onto both.
>Everyone on them conforms to the same thoughts and behaviors.
Which is why they are tearing each other's throats nonstop, eh? Sane people either left those places long ago, or no longer bother to correct bullshit. If you want to know how forums die, this is one way - zero trust to anything.
Everyone somebody says something, imagine that they mean the complete opposite. It often makes much more sense this way.
>>4
Users at 4-ch have been recognizing me by my posts (even though I was posting anonymously) because this is such a gay tiny community. It is lame, but you can probably tell who I am by the following text:
https://archive.md/BoeTV - Boe TV (television)
^of https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=1W706zdVwc0 > https://www.youtube.com/watch?app=desktop&v=1W706zdVwc0
^titled "DuckDuckGo: None of Our Business"
^video which I saw today on a television
>>43
Because you stand out in the weirdest way possible... Don't think I've ever seen anyone else pad out their posts with tangentially related links + archived versions + metadata.
Imagine a forum conforming to OPs vision. Chaos! The only non-conformity I would value in a forum would be in a wider variety of the ideas themselves and not how they're conveyed. Conformity in expression is at least partially needed if there is to be clarity in intent. You can't expect every text-forum user to have any sort of interesting writing ability and must concede to the lowest common denominator. And lets face it, most board* users are.
Enforced non-conformity! authoritarian anarchism.
You'll pay to know what you really think.
Act like a dumbshit and they'll treat you like an equal.
>>1 >>4
My take;
As was mentioned in >>4, 4chan's culture does not allow for any mention or addition of anything not already established in 4chan culture i.e. they're a very conformitive online community. But forcing a non-conformitive community would not work and might end up being equally as bad. You're fighting a mostly invisible enemy; what are you preventing from conforming to, and is it possible to conform to non-conformity? I can't really answer that, that's something you'll have to figure out for yourself if you want a strictly non-conformitive online community. By what we've already established, a "better" online community than 4chan should be neither conformitive nor non-conformitive, but good luck if you're going to enforce how you want people to use your ideal boards.
>TLDR; what >>45 and >>46 said
I once uploaded Kareha onto a server I was running from home, purely just to test the software and study the code. I didn't advertise the board to anybody, and only made three test threads. Amazingly, after having forgotten about the board, and coming back a year later, I found it full of spam and links.
Everybody knows about textboard spam, wakaba's /soc/ board was removed after being spammed to oblivion, the site that wrote the original gazouBBS (futaba's sourcecode) script's demonstration boards were also full of spam comments written in English, so on, we've all seen it.
Where is it actually coming from though? Has anybody ever gone down the rabbithole of internet spam and bots? How do they find no-name sites that nobody visits? What is their end goal? Who actually runs these bots? Is anybody even running these bots or have they been on autopilot for decades? Is there a network of spammers? What is your experience with spam?
Within the past three years or so, "scambaiting" has become a popular genre of youtube and twitch content, with people investigating tech support scammers and robotcallers and whatnot, but I feel like nobody really cares about the rabbithole of people spamming on websites, when it is just as vast and fascinating.
>>7
Or if you're a moderator checking the site more than once a week, leg alone a goddamn year.
It's so weird. For fun, I made it so that if you try to visit my IP address directly (instead of going to a vhost) you get a form that sends me an e-mail. A few days after I put it on, I started getting daily mails just saying "0x[]=androxgh0st". What does it mean?!
Here's a fun exercise: pick a random old post, ideally one distinctive enough that you won't find much similar elsewhere, and google it. Then, go to the very last few pages of results. If you picked your phrase well, you will find a bunch of automatically-generated websites with random urls and content composed of low-res memes from decades ago, what might be CP, and pages upon pages of mangled stolen posts from various boards.
Maybe it's some elaborate way of getting money from ad revenue, but I don't understand how. No one will be visiting a url that looks like it came out of Satan's anus. There's definitely some elaborate money-making scheme tied up in there somewhere.
As for the spam that imageboards/textboards get, is it possible that the spambots used also operate on other types of boards as well? Maybe some relatively common spambot software package comes with built in support for various bits of imageboard software. I'd imagine that the spambot's authors implemented support for spamming Wakaba and Kareha boards back when there were far more around. Interested spammers continue to pay for use of said spambot services and they coincidentally end up including imageboards as a target. I expect that good spambot software is intelligent enough these days to automatically detect what is a forum it can post on.
I've always suspected that the CP ad spam could be federal agents trying to bait paedophiles into revealing themselves. That, or some pissed-off imageboard admins trying to get competitors shut down. Or maybe the links go to malware downloads that some skiddie is using to build up his cryptocurrency mining botnet. Probably all three, really.
>>10
You mean stuff like this? https://g-runth.com/x8kb46/what-does-based-mean-4chan-d8410b
The internet is a strange place.
This part of the internet is incredibly strange to me and I wish I understood what was happening here.
>>10
Oh yeah, it cracks me up whenever some retard YouTube video essayist actually cities "the POW Forums" or some similar site. Its probably just a way to farm e-mail addresses.
goat scrote
https://4-ch.net/img/res/508.html#1215
do you think the guy who posted this feels embarrassed
>>14
nvm, adblock hid the links on desktop. so probably not.
>>6
This is why running a textboard is far better compared to an imageboard, no images = no illegal content. Obviously you still get pieces of shit who advertise links, but I can imagine is less of a headache for sysadmins to deal with.
This all sounds a lot like that Dead Internet Theory thing.
The war is called "Kinoko-Takenoko War"(きのこたけのこ戦争)
In english, "Mushroom-BambooShoot War"
Do you know?
No, i dont know so how about some explanation?
8 years later and still wating for an explanation
https://ja.wikipedia.org/wiki/%E3%81%8D%E3%81%AE%E3%81%93%E3%81%9F%E3%81%91%E3%81%AE%E3%81%93%E6%88%A6%E4%BA%89
Japanese fight over which shit-shaped candy taste better on tongues.
http://www.techcrunch.com/2006/10/09/google-has-acquired-youtube/
Seems like a perfect match. Google is the best company they could've sold out to.
7 years later and it's a shit hole.
Necro-bump
Top lel.
>>12
I feel like I'm in a wasteland. A desert. I see the threads have shifted position, but it's only a mirage. The oasis I thought I saw was only "Top lel."
I continue to roam this barren place. The survivor's colony at DQN shuns people such as myself, the "other-boarders." The creatures I come across are few and far between, and I can not call them posters. You are one of the better ones. Not spam.
This hell was created by idealists such as this: http://4-ch.net/req/kareha.pl/1308515293/
This may be my last entry, or just another of many. If there are any others using this site, hello. I hope this finds you before the servers are no longer online.
>>13
Amazing. This is seriously the best post i've seen on here.
>>14
Google was still the best or only choice.
Unfortunately, Google chose to use Youtube to fight, and avoid really fighting, aggressive copyright enforcement.
The firewall is burning up.
Youtube was Poland, and as a buffer, it's disappearing.
Well its 16 years since this thread started and youtube is a fucking shithole.
The community together with the commercialism completly destroyed the whole platform. Not just that most of the content is literlly mass produced so it can generate literally hours woth of video material which can be forgeten in a few seconds after watching it,
no,
every fucking video has to be "family friendly" and "monetizable" what are just some fucked up words for boring and commerciable.
But there is more,
the real problem is not youtube casually striking down generlly good content (content which doesent bring up the wish to paint your walls with your brain), or the retarded 12 year old logan paul watching and fortnite playing community.
working for free is for cucks.
youtube now marks some videos as 18+ rather than deleting them sometimes. But they still delete vids if they are too 18+. And the way they mark those is very random, like, what is 18+ about this video? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Yegm2IyiaoE And it requires you to provide your real id if you want to watch those, at least in some countries, which you shouldn't do, ever.
there are still not shit people on youtube, but they are kinda buried down, you need to know where to look.
videos are kinda expensive to store and transmit, we should go back to videogames and forums and such, those are more space efficient.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Textboard
there was a brief edit war before an admin said no
>me not being able to advertise my shitty site on wikipedia is LITERALLY harassment
Wikipedia: the encyclopedia where manufactured controversy matters more than actual knowledge.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Amaim_Warrior_at_the_Borderline#Controversy
>>26 ranting about shit and then calling it manufactured controversy kinda undermines your point. but in all likelihood, if it really isn't relevant, then the original author of the article or whoever added that in probably just didn't do enough research. go fix it if it bothers you
It was removed again because of "muh advertising"...
Consider bringing up in the talk pages that its one of the oldest kareha textboards out there, is well known among textboard users, and that it was mistakenly removed because of actual not noteworthy textboards trying to advertise themselves.
good
Is there any reliable encyclopedia website to recommend, preferably a static website or a web1.0 website, I don’t like websites with too bloated scripts