Seriously. All I hear about are guys bending over backwards for some stupid girl. Buying them clothes, giving them money, all to get laid.
I don't have a problem getting girls, when I want them, but seriously it all stops when they want me to buy them things and start trying to "nest". I hate that.
Am I really that nihilistic and selfish? I don't think too many women are worth the hassle. I don't really have that high of an opinion of them.
I know I am controversial, what with my belief in Valhalla and using Hotaru as an ideal outline for what I find attractive. But....I notice....everytime I deal with a woman...they always want something and always try to ride on my own personal success.
Guys, No woman is worth it. I don't care how in love you think you are. They aren't. All they are going to do is trap you, legally and morally, and force you to give up all the things you hold dear so they don't have to work. If you make a fatal mistake of getting married, then they get half your shit dude.
And being gay isn't the answer either.
Am I just that Nihilistic or do I have a point?
I feel it is probably both. Oh yeah and if some chick replies, keep in mind that there is no justification for what girls do.
Actually....if they were as nihilistic as me....it might not be so bad....but then it might be worse, because then I'd be a target for them....
lol nihilism
Yeah...lol all you want with your fairy tale delusions of self worth and forward looking optimism.
Women rule they world. They say they want equality..they want to be treated like everyone else and yet they want special priviledges and gifts and guys to treat them to dinner and junk like that.
I mean it will definately be different if that woman happens to be the girl that you really like alot. i mean to the extend of love. Though u might find it a total waste of time to pool out money and buy gifts for them but so as long as they're happy , it naturally makes you happy too! dont you think so? That smile on her face will naturally makes you feel that you made her day. Its not anyone else but you , yourself made her day. i believe that feeling is Good..=)
But if it's really love, then you won't need to buy her stuff all the time to make her happy. Just being her support and partner should be enough. If she dumps you because of money, she probably wasn't worth hanging onto in the first place.
You're right though, occasionally treating each other is nice, I love surprising my boyfriend with little things.
Eh, I'm a female and I try to pay for the dates my boyfriend and I go on. Does he let me? No. And when I say I don't want something he buys it anyway. I might say, "Ohhh, I want that!" but my boyfriend does the same thing. Doesn't mean I want him to buy it for me, because the instant he brings it up I'll try to stop him from doing so.
Then again, before getting into our relationship, I argued with my boyfriend and gave him reasons why he should seriously reconsider being with me. I have health needs that do need attention and because that's always on my mind and always a threat, that will probably be the only way I am selfish. But if it means living, I'll forsake the material goods anyday.
Hmm...
I don't really love anybody. What would impress the hell out would be if women were more stoic and didn't try to direct the course of my existence, but merely hold on and accept what happens.
I'll never spend a red cent on a female.
I am a girl and I do not care for gifts from guys. It actually makes me feel uncomfortable. I am also not into expensive dates, I simply enjoy being with him. He does not make a lot of money and I am not working so we get along fine without all the frills.
Instead of going on expensive dates, I cook him a nice dinner. I usually spend all day making it, and in return I get his thanks and praise. That is enough for me, it makes me feel much more special than the girl who got a diamond from the boyfriend who cheats on her.
goddamnit, why i cant find girls like you >>10?
For a nihilist, you seem to place a lot of value in material possessions and success. Or are those your personal desires? If there is no meaning to those things, what makes them any more worth holding onto as opposed to female companionship?
My view is that money, as with most material things, is simply a tool to use in reaching personal desires. It has no value in and of itself, even if your goal is simply obtaining material wealth (since money must either be hoarded and beyond being used for physical needs, or else invested). Thus, if your goal is to make a female companion happy, I see no better use for your money.
>>8
Perhaps that is why your boyfriend wants to spend so much; if his goal is to bring about your happiness, and he believes that giving you things he thinks you will enjoy is a part of that, then why shouldn't his material wealth go towards that? What he needs to realize is that you also enjoy putting your material wealth towards things that make both of you happy like paying for dates and such; if he wants you to be happy, would he not let you do things you enjoy? If not, he is only interested in fulfilling his own provisionary desires, but I would hope that he could understand this idea.
In short, use what you have to achieve your desires. Of course it's good to spend "wisely and effectively" (unless you don't care about that), so thinking about the consequences of your actions can be helpful in determining how you spend it; but, in the end, if it's what you want, who can tell you different?
Oh what god has damned......
My nihilism is that I deem the world to be a festering boil and that all life is inherently pointless and meaningless. However, as long as I am here I shall conquer and excel over all else I deem to be beneath me.
Even girls who CLAIM that they cook food and care for their men are bad because they get clingy. I don't like that. Sometimes a woman will appear attractive to me, and I will enjoy her, but then she will bore me, and I will not speak to her. She is no fun anymore.
Slaves are just as unfun as princesses. I like women who are angry, hateful, vindictive, and capable of cruelty. Like somebody who won't bore me, will wait on me and do me favors and give me things, but won't make me do anything I hate or get in my way.
YOU again?! anyway, the whole thing with, guys being the provider, its not necessarily like, women like it, its just a whole culture thing. plus, it does make you feel good to be the man and provide and stuff sometimes right? so, dont blame it all on the women, cuz, sometimes, they do wanna pay
Well....that really wasn't my point. It is part of it, and I don't guess it matters that much. It's just I've seen so many guys get all lovesick and do stupid shit for a girl that is only along for the ride and when the chips are down they don't do anything.
I don't really guess that nihilism even matters....it's just I've seen guys that just can't handle having a woman because they think just because a girl talks a little nice to them that they are zomg in a real heavy relationship when they are the only ones to think that way. To this end they get exploited and tricked into stupid shit.
we should understand that even though guys does stupid shits for girls apart from trying to make the girl happy...he's also trying to heal himself.Just so that atleast he did something to let the girl notice him..i know this might sound stupid but its just something that guys couldnt get over when the girl he likes doesnt show interests because they usually will find ways to go into their life even at the expense of spending time and money..agree?
Maybe.....
but life is too short for these things. Nobody is guaranteed to find true love if it exists.
Maybe the answer is just to have fun and not take things so seriously. Be nice, be kind, but don't sell your soul to somebody who will just throw it away.
Material possesions arent really my thing...I just need 1 a computer and im good.But w/e.
So a girl is hot and i like her, so i talk to her and she talks to me. We find out we get along great.Well then why would i buy her junk? I mean seriously if we really felt love then wouldnt we just want to be together.If she really loves ME then she would want to spend time with ME not a diamond ring.and i the same to her.
sage for Objectivist.
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sigh well you only do those things if your really in love. God forbid the men I seen who are totally in love with a girl and will do anytthing ot please them . It's not a bad thing but it is not a good thing.
"Feminism can destroy a Nation." said Benazir Bhutto
"Women are the niggers of the world" said John Lennon.
"I could've killed my ex-wife" said a trillion men world-wide.
"There's too much confusion. I can't get no relief" said the Joker to the thief.
Is that a Nirvana Quote? >>24 "There's too much confusion. I can't get no relief" said the Joker to the Thief.
Surely men are all perfect. Not a single one of them is mean, not a single one of them lies, not a single one of them kills, not a single one of them rapes, destroys or wages revenge. In fact, there are more women doing all these things than men doing these things.
Stop fooling yourself into believing women should be perfect. No one's perfect, not your pseudo-nihilist self, not anyone.
Come on people, stop saying you're nihilists. Everyone knows you're just finding an excuse to be an idiot who doesn't care about anything. In the end, it's obvious that you care and it's obvious that you do feel. You're not a nihilist, you're just a hurt person. And like any other hurt person, you should do your best to regain trust and love for the world. There's no point in keeping yourself bathed in emotional pain, you should just let go and stop pretending you're not suffering through giving others harsh words.
It's time to stop this reckless pointless passive aggressive behaviour.
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he just need a right woman who can support him so much, cooperation his life,praise his sucsess.and appreciate what he does.simply money cant buy no real love.
if somebody is nihilist,,its so deep.
some people dont know what they want.
some people cant figure them out themselves or what they live for.cant find a goal,sometimes get tired of life.mabye sometimes dont care about anything at all.avoid everything one day.
but he always believing the truth being a human.
There are loads and loads of women that support their husbands and boyfriends, that cooperate with them and that praise their success. Obviously. In fact, most women do these things. And if they don't it just might be that they're too shy to act like a fangirl for their lovers.
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you are not nifilist.right?
OP, you're probably just working with a very bad sample set. There are women out there who aren't like that; if you don't know any, then maybe you need to re-evaluate what kind of women you like or how you go about meeting them. Sure, there's a cultural bias towards men providing for women, but when a man and a woman really like each other, both of them will be willing to pitch in for the other both emotionally and economically.
Just as not all men are douchebags, not all women are gold diggers.
>>26
It's easy to say that if you grew up being relatively normal. Sure, most people get hurt from time to time. There's nothing strange or wrong about that. But what should I do if I can't relate to anybody else at all? I feel like I don't even belong in this world, from the way I am. It's really easiest and most natural for me to feel nothing.
>>33 you're a product of this world, just like any insect, rock or phone. Your feelings of inadequacy and lack of engagement are just a feature of your development, or lack of it. When you are hungry, you search for food. When you feel detached, you search for attachment. If nobody is giving you the food you want, you exhert yourself to get what you want. Same for attachment. The world does not owe anything to you, it's up to you to get engaged in it.
>>34 I don't expect anything from the world, and I don't want to be engaged in it. I can't really connect with anyone on even a basic level, and to do so I'd have to change so much that I wouldn't be myself anymore.
I just want to work, go home to do the things I enjoy, and talk to as few people as humanly possible.
>>I just want to work, go home to do the things I enjoy, and talk to as few people as humanly possible.
You can't do that without engaging the world (unless you go live alone in a desert island until the end of your life). But I get your point, although I doubt its sincerity. Seems more like a case of green grapes dislike.
I don't have the skills to live out in the wild, like hunting or farming, but I would if I could. I've actually been thinking about getting a job out somewhere remote for that reason in part. At least I can get away from the city.
And yeah, sour grapes might be a part of it, but I genuinely don't have any interest in almost all of the women I've met, or in even just having friends. And anyway, I'm tired of trying to make people like me. It's goddamn degrading and humiliating.
This is a very recent development. Many things have been blamed for the more feminine males in society, not in the least is plastic containers we drink out of. I find that girls at pretty young ages seem to be attracted to older men precisely for this reason....younger males seem to act a lot like girls these days
I seriously doubt hormonal dysfunction would explain anything. It's a cultural thing: emancipation of women is a multisecular movement that started well before plastic was invented, and there were many other periods in time when men had more so-called "feminine" behaviors.
And women have always looked for older partners. But tell me, how do you explain that these same women are less and less tolerant to hairs in males? Things are way more complicated than what your explanation can account for.
Thank fuck I'm not pussy whipped now. I was with my first gf, but I learned like a swift kick in the balls would, now if there isn't equality (e.g I will do things for you but you need to do something for me) the women get booted out my window. Unfortunately this whipping phenomenon occurs so gradually men don't realise until they start thinking "fuck a dog on a leash is superior to me"