Board archival and merge thread (72)

1 Name: ssz!8KKxaxpAFg (Admin) : 2021-02-11 20:26 ID:uixywlqQ This thread was NOT merged from the former Requests (/req/) board; this is just a dummy message. You can view the board archive here, however.

In its own separate thread for convenience!
There are two main elements to this:

1: Archiving old threads
To clean the boards up a little bit, and to marginally lighten the load on Kareha, the plan is to move all threads that have not seen any activity for the past ~8 years (half the age of this site) to the archive. Maybe with the exception of DQN which can get an earlier cutoff date (or none at all), and I'm definitely doing this for Romance which has over two thousand (!) unarchived threads.

2: Merging boards
This has been a recurring topic for some time, and I think it's about time something be done about it. So as not to have a bunch of barely active boards on the boardlist, and to make the site slightly tidier (and more convenient to moderate), it seems prudent to merge some of the less active boards and the ones that have overlapping themes. My proposal is as follows:

  • General

    • General
    • Fashion + Food + Sports + Hobbies ⇒ Hobbies
    • Romance + Personal Issues ⇒ Personal
    • Images
    • Requests
  • Internet

    • Programming + Tech Support ⇒ Technology (/tech/)
    • Internet Addicts + Net Culture ⇒ Internet (/net/)
    • DQN
    • AA Bar
  • Culture → Media

    • Film & TV
    • Anime + Manga ⇒ Otaku culture (/otaku/, tentative)
    • Games
    • Music
    • Literature
  • World

    • Language + Nordic ⇒ Language
    • 日本語
    • News + Politics + Debate ⇒ Discussion
    • Science

Please use this thread to voice your opinions and ideas. This is also probably a better place to discuss necrobumping, rather than the mod requests thread.
I would like to get the archiving done pretty soon (and it would also be easy to undo at some later point in time), but the board merge isn't all that urgent and the final decision on it can take its time.

23 Name: ssz!8KKxaxpAFg (Admin) : 2021-02-14 18:24 ID:uixywlqQ

Also: Would it be possible to combine the "western media" boards somehow? On the other hand, they're just about active enough that it's probably fine to just leave them.

24 Name: Anonymous Advisor : 2021-02-14 18:31 ID:DNokPquT

>>23
Oh yes they are fine as is.

25 Name: Anonymous Advisor : 2021-02-15 04:15 ID:Heaven

>Internet Addicts + Net Culture ⇒ Internet (/net/)

I'd prefer to see this new board still named Internet Addicts. Net Culture always seemed the less "iconic" one to me, so it would make more sense for it to be absorbed into /iaa/.

26 Name: Anonymous Advisor : 2021-02-15 04:27 ID:V39PyYIv

Should mergers occur, would it be possible to add little tags to thread titles to indicate which board they originally came from? Maybe it's a bit of a strange idea, but something about not knowing which of the retired boards a thread originally came from stresses me out.

27 Name: Anonymous Advisor : 2021-02-15 07:24 ID:BJnzq0n1

>>26
I think an addendum added to post 1 of the thread might look better, like the fake one I've added to this post.

This thread was merged from the previous iteration of the Requests (/req/) board. You can view the archived board here.

28 Name: Anonymous Advisor : 2021-02-15 07:31 ID:BJnzq0n1

...though in the case the board no longer exists, it should probably say "former Requests (/req/) board" or something.

29 Name: ssz!8KKxaxpAFg (Admin) : 2021-02-16 00:16 ID:uixywlqQ

>>26-28
Good idea. I've added one to this thread, please tell me what you think.

>>15
Yes! https://4-ch.net/dqn/kareha.pl/1613075215/29 (only as an example; this link is probably going to break in the future!)

30 Name: ssz!8KKxaxpAFg (Admin) : 2021-02-16 14:11 ID:uixywlqQ

>>12,13
Well, it's not like there isn't enough overlap already. Besides, there's not much happening in there aside from the funny headlines threads — which would work very well as a single thread in a /current/ board, IMO.

Revised proposal:

General
General /general/
Hobbies¹ /hobbies/
Personal /personal/
Requests /req/
Images /img/
Culture
Anime & Manga (/animanga/)²
Games /games/
Film & TV /tv/
Music /music/
Literature /book/
Internet
AA Bar /ascii/
DQN /dqn/
Technology /tech/
Internet Addicts /iaa/
World
Language /language/
日本語 /nihongo/
Current Events /current/
Science /science/
  1. Nothing from /fashion/, and only the recipe thread from /food/ moved over — the board could still be brought back if there ends up being enough demand.
  2. I would still like /otaku/, or some comparable term ACG or 二次元. /nijigen/?

31 Name: Anonymous Advisor : 2021-02-16 19:46 ID:sRwfs9aY

we could always just steal "society for the study of modern visual culture" for /animanga/

maybe /gen/ for short

32 Name: Anonymous Advisor : 2021-02-16 19:57 ID:Heaven

But without /fashion/, where will I mass reply to every thread about my fabulous codpiece?

On a more serious note, the proposed board groupings could probably be improved. DQN fits the Internet category well enough (though it's such a unique board in content that labeling it an "internet culture" board seems a little disrespectful); it's weird seeing DQN so low on the list but I'll get used to it. The inclusion of Hobbies and Personal under General also feels rather off, but I can't think of any better place to put them. Seeing as I can't think of any better groupings, these are probably good enough after some getting used to. We'll see what others say.
/nijigen/ sounds okay, better than /animanga/ at least.

33 Name: Anonymous Advisor : 2021-02-16 21:14 ID:BJnzq0n1

Should've pointed this out earlier, but I think "Personal" by itself sounds weird and vague as a board name, it only works as a header because the boards under it give it context. I'd prefer that stay as the full "Personal Issues."

If that's too long, maybe "Life Issues"?

34 Name: Anonymous Advisor : 2021-02-17 10:16 ID:2CqEKaHs

>>31
Good luck cleaning all the trash from people coming here every x day asking what's the board's deal is all about (some people just can't read).
In my opinion keeping things easier is the best for boards dedicated to specific themes.

35 Name: Anonymous Advisor : 2021-02-17 14:50 ID:Heaven

>>32
DQN used to be low on the list, I think we've all been spoiled by it being on the top now

36 Name: Anonymous Advisor : 2021-02-18 21:54 ID:BJnzq0n1

>>29

> Good idea. I've added one to this thread, please tell me what you think.

Looks nice to me, I like the unobtrusive location.

37 Name: Anonymous Advisor : 2021-02-19 00:12 ID:YVVuBKgn

i think we could go without /science/, it seems that not many people use it. maybe move /sports/ to hobbies? also >>33-kun is right, "personal" is too vague in my opinion. other than that, >>30 looks fine for me.

38 Name: Anonymous Advisor : 2021-02-19 02:18 ID:Heaven

>>37
Sports is already proposed for the new hobbies board.

39 Name: Anonymous Advisor : 2021-02-22 16:20 ID:Heaven

>>30
( ´_ゝ`)/net/ should stay instead of /iaa/ because /net/ has a cool header image.

40 Name: Anonymous Advisor : 2021-02-22 20:12 ID:Heaven

>>39
Probably the easiest header image of them all to remake, though.

41 Name: Anonymous Advisor : 2021-02-23 10:38 ID:Heaven

/net/ doesn't collide with /img/ for me so the url should stay that way
but "internet addicts" sounds better as a board title

42 Name: ssz!8KKxaxpAFg (Admin) : 2021-02-24 16:26 ID:uixywlqQ

Archival is done, except for DQN and /ascii/ which I've left alone for now. Also fixed the templates, CSS and JS, so you should be able to switch to the modern stylesheets now. The only thing missing is removing the thread form and fixing the closed thread messages, but that can come later.

43 Name: Anonymous Advisor : 2021-02-26 08:22 ID:dJItfmaO

i personally disagree with the "merge" but i know there are good reasons for it, for the rest, i agree with the "arrangement" of the [new] boards

44 Name: Anonymous Advisor : 2021-03-01 22:31 ID:Heaven

check em

45 Name: Anonymous Advisor : 2021-03-06 14:09 ID:LakBrz9L

>>44
Fuck off we don't do that here.

46 Name: Anonymous Advisor : 2021-03-11 14:38 ID:ulOtkfkG

So is this happening or?

47 Name: ssz!8KKxaxpAFg (Admin) : 2021-03-12 00:05 ID:uixywlqQ

>>46
It's still on, tentatively scheduled for the 15th.

  • I've decided to go with /japan/ ("Japanese Media") for the anime+manga board, as it should be a pretty clear description of the contents.
  • Raids and spam generally pass over DQN for its obtuse name, a less favorable position on the list should reinforce the effect.
  • >>33,37 Of course the final title is going to be something like "Romance & Personal Issues", I just mentally refer to it by its URL.
  • /science/ can probably get archived, too.

48 Name: Anonymous Advisor : 2021-03-12 09:11 ID:LakBrz9L

The site is fine the way it is in my opinion i completely understand archiving old threads but boards don't need to be merged together maybe just get rid of the inactive boards.

49 Name: Anonymous Advisor : 2021-03-12 09:51 ID:/QqTx3g1

>>47
my vote is "Society for the Study of Modern Japanese Culture" instead of "Japanese Media" though "Japanese Media" is fine.
thanks for all the hard work <3

50 Name: Anonymous Advisor : 2021-03-12 19:12 ID:Heaven

>>48
Most of us don't want the boards to be completely deleted.

51 Name: Anonymous Advisor : 2021-03-14 04:20 ID:DNokPquT

Pointless idea but it would be pretty nice if the boards that will get annexed in this merge could get full archives instead of just being for stuff prior to 2012. I know the threads will also live on in different boards but I'm sure moving the <30 threads on boards like /sports/ or /fashion/ to the archive as well as to /hobbies/ wouldn't be a big issue. That way the archive can serve as a full capture of the board before it died and all of the threads that were ever made there can exist in one place.

52 Name: Anonymous Advisor : 2021-03-14 14:58 ID:LakBrz9L

Boards don't need to be merged together this is fucking gay.

53 Name: Anonymous Advisor : 2021-03-14 15:37 ID:Heaven

The board merger makes it surprisingly more pleasant to read through old threads. More content in fewer places, I suppose.

>>51's suggestion sounds reasonable, not sure how others feel though.

54 Name: Anonymous Advisor : 2021-03-14 15:53 ID:QfniW453

Looks like it's still possible to make threads on /food/. Tested it and was surprised it went through.

55 Name: Anonymous Advisor : 2021-03-14 17:02 ID:bNEyakWD

I like it a lot, the side menu feels a lot cozier now and the merged boards are fun to read at the moment

56 Name: Anonymous Advisor : 2021-03-14 17:09 ID:MGuuGNQS

This update is gorilla approved 🦍

57 Name: ssz!8KKxaxpAFg (Admin) : 2021-03-14 17:17 ID:uixywlqQ

>>51
Not sure I agree; since the threads are going back to their source boards upon archival it would create some conflict there. Ended up fully archiving the smaller boards though.

58 Name: Anonymous Advisor : 2021-03-14 22:51 ID:Heaven

The boardlist looks quite nice now.

59 Name: Anonymous Advisor : 2021-03-14 23:00 ID:Heaven

How about a news post detailing exactly what boards were merged?

60 Name: Anonymous Advisor : 2021-03-14 23:05 ID:DNokPquT

Perhaps the shortlived /anime/ banner could be implemented on the archive.

61 Name: Anonymous Advisor : 2021-03-15 01:12 ID:LakBrz9L

So are you gonna update the board list so this all makes sense now? Also some boards being merged together like Nordic being merged with language but why is romance merged with personal? why is debates merged with politics? people can debate topics that have nothing to do with politics you know. The site was fine the way it was should have just archived everything and started over fresh and deleted inactive boards that would have been a better decision IMO we can live without certain boards that nobody uses.

62 Name: Anonymous Advisor : 2021-03-15 01:40 ID:IVteC9M0

Fashion & Food got merged into /hobby/

Is there a list or portal to the boards?

63 Name: verification: baitchness : 2021-03-15 05:18 ID:Heaven

>>61
😭🔫🦍

64 Name: Anonymous Advisor : 2021-03-18 01:16 ID:IVteC9M0

>>63
I no speak emoji

65 Name: Anonymous Advisor : 2021-03-18 05:42 ID:Heaven

You should hold a banner contest for boards that lack one

66 Name: Anonymous Advisor : 2021-03-19 03:10 ID:MGuuGNQS

>>63
💖

67 Name: Anonymous Advisor : 2021-03-19 16:59 ID:/QqTx3g1

The rss page needs updating to reflect the new boardlist

68 Name: Anonymous Advisor : 2021-03-20 00:12 ID:Heaven

please make a newspost about the board mergers the news almost never get updated think about how sad they must feel

69 Name: ssz!8KKxaxpAFg (Admin) : 2021-03-21 13:13 ID:uixywlqQ

Accepting header images for /japan/, /current/, /iaa/ and /games/!

  • Should be around 400×120px
  • JPG, PNG or GIF

Upload your images on a stable filehost or on the imageboard, then link it here. If there are multiple submissions for the same board, we'll have a vote over it.

Edit: https://4-ch.net/img/res/1060.html

70 Name: Anonymous Advisor : 2021-03-21 21:27 ID:NXWPM1Pu

>>69 You forgot to sage, new new admin! Naturally when your post doesn't relate to the thread you sage it. Silly you.

71 Name: Anonymous Advisor : 2021-03-23 01:08 ID:Heaven

>>70 considering their current lack of header images is a direct result of the board merge it's plenty relevant. at least for the first two boards.

72 Name: Anonymous Advisor : 2021-10-19 02:29 ID:Heaven

Sounds like a fun challenge. Are animated gif acceptable? Should we post our submissions to the imageboard, or just link them here?

> no SVG

Sigh, ssz-kun...

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