Textboards are not inherently liberal. Imagine being so delusional that you think it's only normal for people to have your very specific worldview.
liberals are brainwashed special snowflakes who are perfectly fine with abandoning their own people
special snowflake programmer
entirely dynamic, stack-based snowflake
It happened during the Obama admin so it must have been Bush's fault.
people getting butthurt about ICE shit now didn't care when Obama let it happen
broke: thinking mass immigration is about helping refugees or increasing diversity
woke: realizing mass immigration is about increasing competition for jobs to keep labor cheap, and also just generating more tax revenue for the government
don't believe emotion-driven media that tries to manipulate you
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>>143
being mad at the immigrant for looking to improve his life conditions instead of the employer exploiting obvious inequalities in order to maximize his profits is peak bootlicking.
look at what you did, i'm talking like i'm on twitter now.
>>155
Why do you hate poor Americans who were born in America? Why do you want their lives to get worse? Your naive egalitarian worldview isn't based in reality.
Also what's with SJWs saying "bootlicking" all of a sudden?
You all use the same buzzwords. It shows just how easily manipulated you are by the media. I know other SJWs and they've been tweeting about bootlicking too lately. This is not a coincidence. It's because you're getting fed garbage ideas from the same sources of misinformation.
>>158
So you have no comeback. Keep on proving me right, friendo.
>>159
Yeah, because communism has worked out so well in the past. Do you know anything about history at all?
Just because one system is flawed doesn't mean another system that has historically NEVER worked will somehow work this time. What a stupid fuck.
UBI, huh? Who is going to pay for it, genius?
>>160
Wow, it's that simple! All problems are solved. But wait, if you try to tax rich people in one country, they will flee to another country. Then you get even less taxes and jobs. No, that's not a solution. Besides, the devil is in the details. "Tax" is too vague. Actual numbers make the difference between sinking or swimming.
But do all of you really think that an entrepreneur should make just as much as someone who never did anything with their life and just works at Mcdonald's? Do you think that unemployed people should have no incentive to work?
Not everyon deserves the same amount of money.
>>161
That's an interesting take on it. I don't know of such a tree, but I like the idea behind it. You see, a lot of people these days think of wealth as a zero-sum game. As in, the only way to get more wealth for yourself is to take it from other people. But in reality, wealth can be created, not just redistributed. If two people are poor, one might propose taking more from the other person. Or if they both plant two trees, they will both be richer, not just taking something to benefit one person at the expense of another. Something for self-described "communists" or "socialists" to think about.
Wealth creation and job creation are very important. People need to stop obsessing over just plain old redistribution (a.k.a. theft).
>>164
I think cryptocurrency is all bullshit, but why are you celebrating the fact that your friend is in a bad situation? Typical spiteful leftist. If you can't be happy, you don't want anyone else to be happy or successful either. What a sad attitude to have.
>>167
Not everything is a conspiracy.
>>173
Cool rebuttal.
>>174
Ok, well I'm not in favor of cryptocurrency stuff but it seems weird that you'd either befriend someone like that, or that you seemingly enjoy when your friends are down. Neither of those things are anyone else's fault but your own. A good friend would express concern about poor financial decisions instead of just using a shrug emoji.
>>176
People already did read and reply to it. Stay mad.
>>172
glad to know israeli kibbutzim are failures, funny how systems that have historically never worked produce 40% of israel's agricultural output
as for who is going to pay for UBI, how about taxing the warehouse robots that are otherwise going to line jeff bezos' pocket with another $66,000 per minute. or is Amazon going to move all their warehouses to a tax haven too?
>>178
Israel is propped up by America.
And yes, whether you like it or not, rich people go to tax havens. You know anything about the whole Apple/Ireland controversy? They didn't pick Ireland for the culture or location. It was for tax reasons. But if Ireland decides that Apple owes them more taxes, guess what? Apple might move out of Ireland and go elsewhere. That's just a fact of life. You can't have one country with immense taxes on the rich when there are other countries that are more than willing to host them for less money.
That being said, do you really think all rich people are evil? If everyone was a lazy socialist, we'd never get anywhere. Entrepreneurs have invented so many things. Sure, there are some downsides to certain things, but I think it's all too easy to be critical of people's success, and discounting the fact that plenty of wealthy people actually earned their money.
The only thing I know is that rich people do not use 4-ch. go dream somewhere else, kiddo
fantasy socialism: everything is perfect, there are literally no problems with this, history doesn't exist
actual socialism: GIVE ME FREE EVERYTHING REEEEEEEEEEEEE I AM LAZY BUT I DESERVE JUST AS MUCH MONEY AS PEOPLE WHO ARE SMART AND HARD-WORKING. RETAIL WORKERS DESERVE THE SAME AMOUNT OF MONEY AS ENGINEERS AND DOCTORS.
fantasy capitalism: let's work hard and earn our own money
real capitalism: it's not perfect but it's better than the alternatives
most math majors have aspergers
>>180
I never said I'm rich. I never even implied that. Nice reading comprehension, retard. Typical leftist.
All I'm saying is that some people actually earn their money. Hard for socialists to believe, I know. But it's a completely idiotic stance to say that all rich people are thieves or otherwise evil. What a bunch of garbage.
>>182
Okay then, what kind of degree do you have? Gender studies? Arts? Give me a break.
I am not from the States, so it does not matter, but I want to remind you that outside IVY LEAGUE math does not exist.
you may troll 4chan all you want, but your degree from the local community college won't bring you to the wall-street. got it kid?
>>185
I'm not even studying math, nor am I in community college. I'm not sure why you're projecting this hard.
Additionally, math is more useful than you make it sound. Ever heard of actuaries? They make mad dosh.
>>183
lol capitalism encourages and constantly rewards parasites and rent seekers. rich people do nothing to earn revenue except own shit. you have to be really stupid not to see this. and since you're stupid, you'll never make it. you'll always have to lick that boot.
>>188
Yeah, Bill Gates didn't create Windows. Mark Zuckerberg didn't create Facebook. The dudes who created Google just "own shit" and didn't create a search engine. Steve Jobs and Steve Wozniak didn't create Apple, leading the macOS and iOS (and Android as a later reaction to the iPhone). Elon Musk made Paypal, SpaceX, and Tesla. Jeff Bezos made Amazon.
Yeah, rich people are lazy. They never invent or do anything. Sure.
Meanwhile, you're so much more productive than entrepreneurs. I bet you've started tons of companies and invented lots of things. You're so much better than those pesky rich people!
aliens steal you tax money, and if you enjoy it, I don't see what kind of psychology must be behind that
you must be pure fucking american to enjoy this insanity
all heil Trump
I, a socialist who just wants to smoke weed and be lazy all day, am so WOKE and SMART. Everyone else is a MINDLESS DRONE. Wanting to earn a living is for SHEEP. Nobody invents anything or creates jobs or wealth. It's all already made and ONLY REDISTRIBUTED. It's all a CONSPIRACY, man. We'd all be billionaires except that the rich people are having secret meetings where they're like "how do we keep those neckbeards down, bros?"
Fuck KKKAPITALISM, maaaaaaaan! Fight the POWER! Peace and love! Except if you're a white male. Or if you're successful. Or have a degree that is actually useful.
Nobody EVER had to work to survive before capitalism was a thing. Your food and house and everything just magically appeared. Then along came capitalism and now you have to have a job. What the fuck, man? Vote for Bernie Sanders! He's gonna make everything free. Just take it from the rich people. They'll totally be cool with that, and that won't have any negative consequences at all. My woke brothers on welfare contribute just as much to society as inventors and CEOs.
Leftists (such as antifa larpers) would sooner go after low income conservatives while completely ignoring globalist elites and government officials who create policies (such as for mass immigration) that make poor people even poorer.
How can you be against rich people and "in favor of" poor people while supporting global elite ideas that make poor people even worse off? Do you not see how your ideas contradict each other?
>>201
The American Dream is dead and buried.
The American dream:
A man gets married to a woman. They have 2-3 kids. They have a house with a yard and a fence. They have a dog too. They make enough money to pay for rent (or a mortgage I guess), utilities, kids going to college, and so on.
Reality:
Men are becoming increasingly submissive. Betamale cucks. Soyboys. Nu-males. Whatever you want to call them. Also, most immigrants are male, so there is an imbalance between the genders here. Some dudes knock up women and then don't stay involved in their kid's life. Family values are being eroded and liberals think this is actually a good thing.
Women have been "sexually liberated" by the media, so they sleep around on Tinder and aren't interested in monogamy. Women get impregnated, some abort, and some just raise their kid(s) by themselves. This is bad for everyone involved. The mom is stressed out and poor, the kid doesn't get a father, and is less likely to succeed.
The middle class is declining, so more people are renting, having roommates, and so on. Very few millennials will own homes. "Mortgage" is not in millennials' vocabulary, since it's essentially out of reach for most.
The media is demonizing white people and encouraging population replacement.
Climate change and pollution are fucking up our planet.
Crime is increasing in many areas. There's a lot of violent crime and drugs too. Many people's lives are being ruined by opioids. It's more widespread than you might think.
The cost of living is going up, but thanks to mass immigration, people aren't making more money. So people have less purchasing power than in previous generations.
Many people are becoming increasingly antisocial. Incels, feminists, gay and transgender people, and so on. White birth rates are declining. Leftists are celebrating this, because they hate white people.
The media is intentionally making race relations worse.
Degeneracy is being normalized. LGBT and drugs are "progressive" and cool now, being pushed by the media and in universities. Young people are being indoctrinated.
College degrees went from being optional to being pretty much a necessity if you want to ever make more than minimum wage. So being in massive amounts of debt at a young age has become the norm. But many people are studying useless majors. And even if you do get a useful degree, it's not as good as before, because everyone else has a degree too. So the requirements even for entry-level positions are increasing. You can be very smart and well-educated and still stuck in a shitty position.
College is no longer just about education. It's also about political brainwashing. You can't even study STEM without having liberal ideas being shoved down your throat.
Oh yeah, and affirmative action means whites will be passed up for jobs. It's funny, I live in an area that is more non-white than white, but affirmative action and minority initiatives are still a thing. This is discrimination.
Leftists are know starting to advocate for violence against whites. This kind of rhetoric reminds me of pre-holocaust Germany.
People would rather believe elaborate conspiracy theories about Russia than admit that some people have a reason to be upset.
The American experiment has failed. Millennials are fucked.
modern women can not be loved.
DUDE WTF ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT
A NEW WAR IN EUROPE IS ABOUT TO BEGIN
I MEAN THAT FUCKING UKRAINE
>>208
Some can, just as long as they're not "woke feminists" who participate in outrage/callout culture on social media.
>>209
New? It's been going on for a while now. Crimea and all that. Yes, I know.
But that doesn't change the fact that shit is hitting the fan in America too.
Remember when the biggest argument we had was about mushrooms?
>People would rather believe elaborate conspiracy theories about Russia
sup CIA. Everybode knows that Russia plays the crucial role in the international affairs. it was so since the Romanoffs. LRN2history stupid americunt, ok
and Alfred Rosenberg was russian from Estonia( which was a part of Russian Empire)
>>212
Why does every discussion have to be referred to as argument or trolling? What happened to debate and discussion?
People are being so used to social media bubbles, where they never have to interact with people who disagree with them. But that makes you weaker.
Rosenberg spoke Russian during Nuremberg trials
everybody knows it. and they all laughed at him, because he was Russian.
also Romanoffs financed NSDAP. everybody knows it
well it is natural for them
hating the bolshiveks scum
do you know that Olga Chehova was a star in 3rd reich? no?
>>217
Rosenberg was born on 12 January 1893 in Reval (now Tallinn) in the Russian Empire, the capital of modern Estonia, to a family of Baltic Germans. His father, Waldemar Wilhelm Rosenberg,[5] was a wealthy merchant from Latvia, and his mother, Elfriede (née Siré), was a teacher of French language in Reval.
The young Rosenberg graduated from the Petri-Realschule (currently Tallinna Reaalkool) and went on to study architecture at the Riga Polytechnical Institute and engineering at Moscow's Highest Technical School.
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Olga Chekhova
She played in Max Reinhardt's productions at UFA. She made the successful transition from silent film to talkies. In the 1930s, she rose to become one of the brightest stars of the Third Reich and was admired by Adolf Hitler. She appeared in such films as Der Choral von Leuthen although she preferred comedies.
also check The Russian Roots of Nazism by Michael Kellogg
It is cambridge monography
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wait. are you Russian? then pls stfu
Rosenberg lived all his youth in Russian Empire, and that's the reason why he hated jews that much. he layed the key role into turning Hitler to a rambling antisemit
>>177 I know this is hard to understand due to your crippling autism, but sometimes your friends will do things you don't like or act like assholes; if you value the friendship then those are the times you bite your tongue and back off and wait for them to come to their senses. Because if they're truly your friends they'll do the same when you act like an asshole or do something that they don't like. That's basically how human relationships work.
I declare war on Russia.
Human relationships are basically about mutually tolerating each other's asshole moments in order to obtain a collective benefit.
my dear american friend. I don't want to troll you so be please spend 5 minutes reading this english wikipedia article.
holy fuck this thread is moving fast there were like 50 posts since I left an hour ago
don't be butthurt so much
you're still just a russian bydlo
you may visit Estonia if you like it
can we go back to talking about cassava
Dear Amerikunts. please comprehend these simple things:
All three baltics nations (Lithuania, Latvia, Estonia) + Finland were part of Russian Empire.
There were plenty of germans living in Russian Empire (they all returned home).
Most russian aristocracy was of german origins (including the Tzar).
Russian culture of 19th century is significant.
Jews destroyed Russia in 1917 but Stalin destroyed most of the originals revulutioners in 1937.
if you curious please read this
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ingria
at least 60% of this thread is people with severe autism talking to themselves and rebutting points that no one ever made
notice how wikis says it:
"In the early 18th century the area was reconquered by Russia in the Great Northern War after having been in Swedish possession for about 100 years"
it was speacially written for mentalyl handicapped americans.
yes, russians fucked Ingria, but why the fuck they need to hide in from the America? maybe some russians are OK and we can be friends...
lol
but jews do not let it happen. Why? google "Pogrom"
if it all lies, then Rosenberg would not be hanged
Ghosts! Commie ghosts, what don't know they're dead!
>>261
Ignore someone's points and simply dismiss them as "incoherent" even though they're very coherent and you just choose to ignore them since you don't have any valid rebuttals. Great debate skills. You're encouraging me to vote against you.
>>264,265
You're a lost cause. It's sad. You're so indoctrinated that you don't even realize how far gone you are.
La La Land
Nothing ever changes.