Why do girls dump nice guys and go for the jerks? (185)

1 Name: Lloyd : 2006-11-22 07:40 ID:Ba6WKIYP

This is the ultimate law... Girls always whine about they want a nice guy who cares for them. But when it comes to choose their boyfriend they always fell for the jerk who treats them like shit. Why does it have to be like this? Why don't girls like nice guys? It's just not logical...
What do jerks have that nice guys don't? And why isn't niceness and calm personality appealing to girls?
I just don't get it... I'm romantic, calm, and nice to everybody. I can talk with girls, and can be friends with anybody... but nothing more. They tell me that I'm nice, cute and so, and they just don't get why can't I find somebody.
But it seems like girls don't see nice guys as a possible boyfriend...
What can a nice guy do?

2 Name: Secret Admirer : 2006-11-22 09:06 ID:cFL+N4Wn

Guys to the exact same thing to nice girls, they dump them for the nagging, gold digging bitch who is completely insensitive to his needs.

3 Name: Secret Admirer : 2006-11-22 10:32 ID:2UMEEjzA

Confidence, ego, a bit of raw masculine oomph. Girls want a guy who can make them tingle, they want emotion. Be that sadness or joy, that's what they like. A 'nice guy' doesn't give them that. You don't have to be a jerk, you just have to make sure that nobody ever calls you "nice".

4 Name: Lloyd : 2006-11-22 12:08 ID:Ba6WKIYP

If they'd want emotion, then I wouldn't be alone...

5 Name: Secret Admirer : 2006-11-22 13:30 ID:GF1UrWOM

>>3
Yeah, this is true. I make no secret of the fact that I'm an arrogant self absorbed asshole, and I don't really have a problem with girls. A lot of it is confidence, which is very important, and also the fact that a jerk will usually make a move when a nice guy wouldn't. They make more opportunities for themselves to get girls.

To be fair though, jerks are more likely to have short meaningless relationships or veeery long and bitter ones. The nice guys will have the decent relationships. At least, that's what I've always seen, and experienced myself. Hell, one of my friends had a great relationship (I mean, it changed his life) with a girl that I'd insensitively gotten rid of.

6 Name: Secret Admirer : 2006-11-22 21:23 ID:neT42myX

>>4

Yeah nice guys are more likely to have long stable relationships. But if you can't get the girl in the first place there is no point. A balance is need to found between the jerk and nice guy.

7 Name: Secret Admirer : 2006-11-22 22:28 ID:/cAfkpCE

>>1

If you have to ask, you'll never know.

8 Name: Secret Admirer : 2006-11-22 23:01 ID:5HBUJJRI

>>1

Women are just bitches. That's all. When you realize that, you can plan and act accordingly.

Besides "Nice guys" are usually creepy.

Most women(who are bitches) would rather go out with a guy who hits her, gets drunk, and is a complete ass than go out with a guy who is creepy.

People are more apt to put up with abusive and rude than they are creepy. Creepy is scary because there's no real way to deal with creepy. Abusive and rude is usually just leave the SOB when he's at work or fucking around.

CREEPY guys are like herpes they show up at your work, at your parents house, they go around telling people you are still together and possibly getting married...SOON. They start wanting to name kids in the middle of the first date.

Actually...shit -I- would rather go out with an abusive asshole than a creepy "nice guy" myself.

I'm not really creepy, I'm more eccentric and bizarre. If done right that can be sexy.

9 Name: Secret Admirer : 2006-11-23 18:18 ID:WCehRkjE

>Besides "Nice guys" are usually creepy.

so true. creepy isn't just a stumbling point for love relationships, it's a stumbling point for getting to know ANYBODY because nobody wants to hang with the guy that unsettles everybody. and there isn't really a cure for creepy except for seeing that shit in yourself and trying to fix it. like, say, not declaring your eternal and undying love to girls you don't know (from one frequent /love/ example).

10 Name: Secret Admirer : 2006-11-23 19:50 ID:zY9cglOR

Stop being so nice, end of story.

That's not going to get you anywhere. Don't go out of your way to help a girl when you're in the middle of an Escaflowne episode. Stop being so considerate, if you want to say something, say it, regardless if it offends her or not. Don't spend all day talking on the phone with her, you got shit to do. Don't give all of your time to her, have a life of your own. This will let her know you are off doing your own thing instead of sitting around and catering to a girl, which you should never do.

Girls see nice and sensitive guys as just friends. I'm not saying you have to be a complete asshole, but you have to let the girl know that you won't always be available, and once she becomes annoying you're moving on to the next one.

11 Name: James : 2006-11-23 19:58 ID:5NwPy+87

hi, i have a problem, this girl and i went to the same school till grade 12 and now i am in a different city then she is. i have liked her since grade 10, thats when i moved to her city but i was afraid to tell her anything, now that i am here in a different city, i have really started to miss her. it is a little bit hard to say if she likes me or not, everytime i am in her town and give her a call, she would invite me over to her place and stuff. we really haven't hung out at all. i just dont know where to start. heard that messenger is the worst way of talking, so i have actually quit using my aim. if anyone of you can help me with this. would be greatly appriciated. and yeh another thing is, i would like her to be my soul mate for the rest of my life. i know this sounds creepy too but thats what i feel about her. please help.
thank you

12 Name: James : 2006-11-23 20:00 ID:5NwPy+87

hi, i have a problem, this girl and i went to the same school till grade 12 and now i am in a different city then she is. i have liked her since grade 10, thats when i moved to her city but i was afraid to tell her anything, now that i am here in a different city, i have really started to miss her. it is a little bit hard to say if she likes me or not, everytime i am in her town and give her a call, she would invite me over to her place and stuff. we really haven't hung out at all. i just dont know where to start. heard that messenger is the worst way of talking, so i have actually quit using my aim. if anyone of you can help me with this. would be greatly appriciated. and yeh another thing is, i would like her to be my soul mate for the rest of my life. i know this sounds creepy too but thats what i feel about her. please help.
thank you

13 Name: James : 2006-11-23 20:00 ID:5NwPy+87

hi, i have a problem, this girl and i went to the same school till grade 12 and now i am in a different city then she is. i have liked her since grade 10, thats when i moved to her city but i was afraid to tell her anything, now that i am here in a different city, i have really started to miss her. it is a little bit hard to say if she likes me or not, everytime i am in her town and give her a call, she would invite me over to her place and stuff. we really haven't hung out at all. i just dont know where to start. heard that messenger is the worst way of talking, so i have actually quit using my aim. if anyone of you can help me with this. would be greatly appriciated. and yeh another thing is, i would like her to be my soul mate for the rest of my life. i know this sounds creepy too but thats what i feel about her. please help.
thank you

14 Name: James : 2006-11-23 20:03 ID:5NwPy+87

sorry about that. i am not sure why it posted three times.. no idea..

15 Name: Secret Admirer : 2006-11-23 20:14 ID:zY9cglOR

Shit man, you guys are in a different city which makes things really difficult. I would try calling her a bit, ask her how her life's going and just try to become friends again. If you're in a different city chances are you two have grown apart and not as close as you were. If the conversation is good, just keep calling her, but not too often, maybe once a week. Then she'll probably start calling you and tell her how her life is going, which would be very good.

I wouldn't recommend using messenger at all. It's pretty gay.

Don't tell her you love her or anything shit like that. That will creep her out.

16 Name: Secret Admirer : 2006-11-23 20:57 ID:w1VqMaGo

the whole thing makes me sick. so much of a bother, we got better things to do. just dont lose sleep over these things, if theres anything you should be losing sleep over, you should be losing it over where youre going in life. in total that is

17 Name: Secret Admirer : 2006-11-23 20:58 ID:neT42myX

I would say you try to maintain a friendship, even if it is a weak one. But I don't expect anything to happen, since the distance will be a huge factor.

18 Name: Secret Admirer : 2006-11-23 22:57 ID:/eTf49pw

Loud jerks don't scare girls, nice, quiet guys do.

D:

19 Name: James : 2006-11-24 14:21 ID:5NwPy+87

i see what you mean.. another thing i was wondering too, i have heard that relationship with her parents is very crucial.. is that correct?.

20 Name: yuka : 2006-11-24 14:37 ID:qOQE0kFd

>>18 That's not true! I'm a girl and loud jerks scare me! I actually prefer the nice, and quiet type of guy.

21 Name: James : 2006-11-24 15:16 ID:5NwPy+87

i hope that the girl i like thinks like you do.. would make life that much easier.

22 Name: yuka : 2006-11-24 15:20 ID:qOQE0kFd

>>21
well, there are some girls that are like that, and we can't avoid it, can we?

most girls are not like me though.

23 Name: James : 2006-11-24 15:37 ID:5NwPy+87

well you are a girl... what do girls like the most about guys?

what do girls usually want from guys?

24 Name: Secret Admirer : 2006-11-24 15:47 ID:3iuI07aI

Girls really don't know what they want, this is why the nice guys get to listen the the girls who like "funny, kind, sensitive guys" compain about their crude, violent, manly man when he's a jerk to her.

25 Name: yuka : 2006-11-24 15:58 ID:qOQE0kFd

Well, some girls want love from guys. I wouldn't know, really. I don't even know how I got together with my boyfriend! Although, I did complain to him about my ex when we got together..

We girls want attention, I guess. I'm not sure myself. (x_x)

26 Name: James : 2006-11-24 16:16 ID:5NwPy+87

see i am willing to give attention too but then if you give too much attention, then girls freak out and think we are all creepy .

27 Name: yuka : 2006-11-24 16:17 ID:qOQE0kFd

Not unless the girl is interested in you

28 Name: James : 2006-11-24 16:21 ID:5NwPy+87

true.. see she has never told me that at all but then last time i talked to her was like atleast 3 - 4 months ago. and i dont know how to start a conversation after such a long period of time.

29 Name: yuka : 2006-11-24 16:22 ID:qOQE0kFd

You can start by asking how she is. Like a simple, 'How are you? It's been a long time since we last talked to one another.'

Something simple like this can work.

30 Name: James : 2006-11-24 16:48 ID:5NwPy+87

i see. as i dont know her as much i dont know what i should be talking about. so sometimes there is silence which makes me really nervous.

31 Name: Strawberry Cake : 2006-11-24 19:01 ID:/Y/6BRzm

Girls don't really go for jerk guys... at least I don't. Just a few of the guys I've dated have been rather jerkish to other people.. and when they've been jerkish to me, I've tossed them to the side.

Confidence has something to do with it. And you don't have be to a jerk to have confidence. And while you don't have to spend every waking moment on the girl, giving her some attention doesn't hurt. Otherwise why bother with a girlfriend, huh?

The type of guys I like are the geeky ones.. who're nice and fun to talk to.

32 Name: yuka : 2006-11-25 00:06 ID:JzvLOK5q

>>31 We have the same taste in guys

>>30 Why don't you ask people about this girl?

33 Name: Secret Admirer : 2006-11-25 01:12 ID:LG5asc4v

Being a nice guy won't get you anywhere. This is coming from an ex nice guy.

You're caught in the mindset that if you're nice to people, they'll like you. The nicer you are, the more they'll like you. Are they being mean? Well shit, you're just not being nice enough then!

This is wrong. So very wrong. It's usually an excuse to avoid conflict, either the guilt of being mean, or the fear of someone possibly being mean to you in return.

If you're nice to everyone, they'll just walk all over you. Male, female, irrelivant.

If you don't learn how to be mean within context, and to stand up for yourself, you're just going to be weak for the rest of your life. You'll never get anything you really want.

If you're nice to everyone, and you have a girlfriend, then she's probably just as pathetic as you are. You'll end up satiating each others existance, and neither of you will grow.

Girls want to attach themselves to someone who can provide, someone who (they see) is strong, and can deal with things so they don't have to. They can argue this point ad infinitum, but human basic instinct/primal drive will always win out in the end. Guys will always initially favour the pretty girl.

Learn this, the modify it to fit your own behavour. The more you cry about hopelessness, the closer it gets.

34 Name: yuka : 2006-11-25 01:32 ID:JzvLOK5q

>>33 you're very right about that. But don't forget that there are nice people who don't use other nice people too.

35 Name: Hanyuu : 2006-11-25 10:03 ID:sQ0cx1fa

>>33
Agreed. Totally agreed. If your personality is to be nice, that's great and all, but when it comes down to it, standing up for someone (including yourself, or others) requires you to be "nice" to one side. Basically, you pick and choose, and frankly, one shouldn't choose the jerk over the nice guy (though there are times when you wouldn't pick either >_>;;).

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