The English Chat Room (446)

1 名前: 名無しさん@日本語勉強中 05/01/22(Sat)20:52 ID:Heaven [Del]


∧_∧ In this thread, you can talk English with each other.
( ・ω・)  Let's drink tea together and chat about this and that.
(つ旦0 Ramble, communicate, have fun!
と_)__) The native speakers will bring the cookies.

2 名前: 名無しさん@日本語勉強中 05/01/22(Sat)22:02 ID:Heaven [Del]

I decided I would make it a point to preview
what was going to come up in class.
Until now, I've never done it, and
I've found it'll turn out to be tough to follow
my lecturer if I don't do it, because the amount of study things
I struggle amazingly increased recently.
100 pages of text books are killing me.

Previewing might not hurt, but rather be helpful.

3 名前: 名無しさん@日本語勉強中 05/01/23(Sun)06:12 ID:8BwARMAN [Del]

how old are you?
And what are you studing now?

4 名前: 名無しさん@日本語勉強中 05/01/24(Mon)16:45 ID:Heaven [Del]

What kind of cookies would you like?

5 名前: 名無しさん@日本語勉強中 05/01/24(Mon)20:45 ID:Heaven [Del]

>>4

Not too sweet
and not too thin
nor too thick

6 名前: 名無しさん@日本語勉強中 05/01/26(Wed)18:52 ID:Heaven [Del]

are most of the people here students?

7 名前: 1 05/01/26(Wed)19:26 ID:Heaven [Del]

>>6

I am.

8 名前: 名無しさん@日本語勉強中 05/01/26(Wed)20:21 ID:Heaven [Del]

>>2
That's not a bad idea. It can help if you work things out for yourself, and try to stay interested in what you're learning.
I think I'd be too lazy to preview things unless I was really having trouble with them, though.

9 名前: 名無しさん@日本語勉強中 05/01/28(Fri)05:43 ID:Heaven [Del]

It's sad that this thread has died so quickly, it could have been really something.

Do the Japanese users hear rather talk in the Giko Bar or another place instead?

10 名前: 名無しさん@日本語勉強中 05/01/28(Fri)11:34 ID:Heaven [Del]

I downloaded My finest hour, an RPG.
The game is very picturesque, beautiful, magnificent.
But the problem is, the system is too complicated to understand.
My characters can't level up even though they earned
the experience points needed to progress,
and I don't know why. So it's sad but I gave up this game.
How can I beat my opponent if I can't level up?

11 名前: 名無しさん@日本語勉強中 05/01/28(Fri)11:38 ID:Heaven [Del]

>>9
The Giko Bar is one of the 2ch AAs?
First I didn't get what that is, though.

12 名前: 名無しさん@日本語勉強中 05/01/28(Fri)12:05 ID:Heaven [Del]

>>9
Yeah, they have the chatter/monologue threads on 2ch.
That's one reason somo of them can't be bothered
to post here, I think.
But more important is it that most of them don't know about
4ch. We must advertise it.

Anyway, here's what I have in mind:
the number of people here is very limited,
so if there comes a new comer, he's not here to stay
because of sluggishness, which leads to fewer people
coming here.
If you allow me to talk about my case, I came here
because a Germany person named Anonymous built a thread
and introduced 4ch. The thread is very deserted now, though.
So if we make a great effort to ask more people to come here,
here they'll come. We need to put our minds to get 4ch popular.
As a result, this thread will be full of people.

13 名前: 名無しさん@日本語勉強中 05/01/28(Fri)16:32 ID:4lGY9lWp [Del]

for me it's a rather hard to concentrate on studies. I always excurse on another stuff. internet, etc. That's why im permanent loser

14 名前: 名無しさん@日本語勉強中 05/01/29(Sat)01:41 ID:Heaven [Del]

let me neet♪

15 名前: 名無しさん@日本語勉強中 05/01/29(Sat)05:59 ID:Heaven [Del]

don't worry >>13! we're all permanent losers on the internet!! let us embrace each other as brothers!1

16 名前: 名無しさん@日本語勉強中 05/01/29(Sat)09:15 ID:Heaven [Del]

I'm home.
Sorry to have kept you waiting for me.

So where did you all know about 4ch, anyway?

17 名前: Anonymous 05/01/29(Sat)15:17 ID:Heaven [Del]

>>16

I learned through 4-ch.net by browsing WAKAchan.org
I am also the Anonymous who started those two threads on the 2ch ENGLISH ita.

18 名前: 名無しさん@日本語勉強中 05/01/30(Sun)03:11 ID:Heaven [Del]

>>17
Hi, Anonymous san.
Nice to talk to you here.

So you knew about 2ch after you stumbled on 4ch, right?
But I wonder how Squeek san found 2ch before creating 4ch.
Unless I'm mistaken, Japan Times, a kind of newspaper
published in Japan and also written in English, said
2ch was the most famous BBS in Japan
(I'm sure the 2ch ENGLISH ita was mentioned in the
article a time or two). So if the founder of 4ch read it,
there was no wonder he had a look at 2ch and was inspired,
though.

Haven't any overseas news media brought up the subject
about 2ch by now, have they?

19 名前: 名無しさん@日本語勉強中 05/01/30(Sun)03:27 ID:Heaven [Del]

Here, the article I mentioned is just a click away.
http://www.japantimes.co.jp/cgi-bin/getarticle.pl5?nc20030213mr.htm
If you're interested, I recommend to you to read it.

20 名前: Anonymous 05/01/30(Sun)10:04 ID:Heaven [Del]

>>18

> So you knew about 2ch after you stumbled on 4ch, right?

No, I knew about 2ch before. Don't know from where, though. I guess it's just a site you neccessarily come across after you get interested in the Japanese part of the internet, yknow?

> Haven't any overseas news media brought up the subject
about 2ch by now, have they?

Well, there are at least these few articles:

http://4-ch.net/nihongo/kareha.pl/1104174791/8

21 名前: 名無しさん@日本語勉強中 05/01/30(Sun)12:33 ID:Heaven [Del]

A lot of people probably know 2ch this way:

4chan.net got very popular, as an english version of futaba channel. (Although there's a lot of english image boards now.) The community has always been quite interested in weird things from futaba, and eventually learnt some things about 2ch as well.

Maybe it's backwards to do it that way? 2ch is massive and fascinating, but images don't rely so much on language...

22 名前: 名無しさん@日本語勉強中 05/01/31(Mon)04:37 ID:Heaven [Del]

>>20
Yeah, I know what you mean.
You searched for some information and found some 2ch message
system dealt with it like I did before, I guess.

And I didn't know the articles was uploaded except for
Japan Times. Maybe there was someone interested in 2ch
by reading one of the online media.

>>21
>images don't rely so much on language...
(・∀・)<I'll say!

23 名前: 名無しさん@日本語勉強中 05/01/31(Mon)08:19 ID:jYnbFKqQ [Del]

Im get interested in 2ch after seeing Kikkoman flash. I download few more (chinko_onesan, etc) and found link to 2ch.

24 名前: Anonymous 05/01/31(Mon)11:50 ID:Heaven [Del]

>>21

I am inclined to agree. Usually, the first thing a westerner notices about 2ch is some flash.
This kinda spreads after this happens initially, especially through popular weblogs (for instance: http://www.blogjam.com/2003/05/20/mona/).

25 名前: Anonymous 05/02/03(Thu)09:03 ID:Heaven [Del]

>>12

Sorry for taking so long to reply to your points.

I think 4-ch will benefit of its users advertising it in any form.

However, I also think that 4-ch is too small right now and doesn't get enough contributions in order to make those people who would visit 4-ch once because of us advertising it stay for a longer time.
Thus I think it would be best if we started some little activity in here ourselves and keep the pace of posting and contributing up on a level that will keep users who check the site for the first time interested enough to come back for a second and third time.

With this in mind, I encourage you and everybody else to keep posting or start posting on 4-ch, not only here on the Japanese board but also on the other boards. Look around, and if there's anything catching your interest, don't hesistate to participate. 4-ch is free for all (as long as you abide by the rules) and the more people get this thing going and lively, the better.

26 名前: 名無しさん@日本語勉強中 05/02/10(Thu)14:51 ID:Heaven [Del]

I suggest we know what we have in common, I mean,
it's better to talk about some theme, so that the thread
is running.

27 名前: 名無しさん@日本語勉強中 05/02/11(Fri)02:50 ID:Heaven [Del]

> what we have in common
we're all posting on 4-ch~ ( ゚ー゚)b

28 名前: 名無しさん@日本語勉強中 05/02/11(Fri)03:58 ID:Heaven [Del]

So you mean you want to talk about 4ch itself?

29 名前: 名無しさん@日本語勉強中 05/02/11(Fri)07:22 ID:Heaven [Del]

>>26

I am a young man.

30 名前: 名無しさん@日本語勉強中 05/02/15(Tue)19:44 ID:Heaven [Del]

>>29
By that you mean Sighjoh Hideki?
He's not so young that he can call himself young, though.

31 名前: bink 2005-02-28 14:48 ID:Heaven

The suggestion that most English users hear of 2ch from 4chan is right. I first wanted to visit 2ch when I saw a Flash entitled "typewriter.swf" and thought it was funny even though I couldn't figure it out. It ended up being a musical about a 2ch poster getting angrier and angrier at someone who's every reply ended by including Mona with a huge set of balls. I still wish I could find what music was in that.

32 名前: nb 2005-03-04 20:09 ID:Heaven

found 2ch when my website got linked on a 2ch thread and got over 150 users from japan in a day (up from around 10 users a day). Following back the HTTP_REFERER brought me to 2ch.

33 名前: 名無しさん@日本語勉強中 2005-03-05 20:48 ID:Heaven

>>32
I guess your site attracted 2ch'ers because there's something about it. I'm interested in it, too.
What does your site deal with?

34 名前: 名無しさん@日本語勉強中 2005-03-06 09:07 ID:kJ/MDLWD

I'm a big evangelion fan.
Does anyone like evangelion fan?

35 名前: 名無しさん@日本語勉強中 2005-03-06 22:04 ID:Heaven

You mean a kind of Japanese manga, right?

36 名前: 名無しさん@日本語勉強中 2005-03-10 11:01 ID:mn5P6LT1

>>32
That's strange. AFAIK, 2ch has an automatic dereferer thing enabled for all the links posted in the forums.

37 名前: 名無しさん@日本語勉強中 2005-03-11 05:26 ID:7MXRI7qQ

Yeah, I get referrers from ime.nu on my website, not 2ch

38 名前: NC60659!jIATReI/SI 2005-03-12 05:09 ID:jhmApeim

okay, testing, one, two, three.

39 名前: 名無しさん@日本語勉強中 2005-03-12 05:20 ID:Heaven

>>38
Oh, hi!
I'm the one who asked you to visit this board.
I'm glad you've come along!

40 名前: 名無しさん@日本語勉強中 2005-03-12 05:20 ID:Heaven

>>38
Oh, hi!
I'm the one who asked you to visit this board.
I'm glad you've come along!

41 名前: 名無しさん@日本語勉強中 2005-03-12 05:22 ID:Heaven

Oops, sorry.
I mistakenly posted two times.

42 名前: 名無しさん@日本語勉強中 2005-03-12 05:30 ID:Heaven

So how many years have you been learning Japanese?
I thought you said you're Chinese.

And I studied Chinese a little before, though I found it
too complicated for me to master the language.
As a matter of fact, all I remember now is 我是学生.:)

43 名前: 名無しさん@日本語勉強中 2005-03-12 05:37 ID:Heaven

加油 came to mind.
It is hooray or cheer up in English, right?

44 名前: NC60659!jIATReI/SI 2005-03-12 05:44 ID:jhmApeim

Oh, man, sorry. I totally forgot about this window. Maybe we can chat again some other day?

45 名前: NC60659!jIATReI/SI 2005-03-12 05:52 ID:jhmApeim

>>42 I've been learning Japanese for about two and a half years now. My teacher says I have the potential to learn the language easily but I have to spend more time practicing. Yes, I was born in China.

Yeah, one of the biggest reasons why I gave up on continuing my Chinese education was that the language just seemed too hard. I travelled a lot during my childhood and never had the opportunity to gain foundation studies in any language. Up to this point in my life, I've spent most of my years in Canada so I just picked up English as my primary language. "我是学生." means "I'm a student." right?

>>43 "加油"... I have no idea what that means. I can speak a bit of my province's dialect of Mandarin to communicate with my parents. I speak a tiny bit of standard Mandarin. I can understand most of my province's Mandarin and standard Mandarin. I can pick up a few lines of Cantonese after listening to my friends. And my writing and reading of Chinese in general is horrible.

46 名前: 名無しさん@日本語勉強中 2005-03-12 05:53 ID:Heaven

Sure. why not?
Let's just take it easy.
Hope you come along again.

47 名前: 名無しさん@日本語勉強中 2005-03-12 06:13 ID:1D8i1ebr

>>45
Is your teacher a native Japanese speaker?
If not, we'll be glad to help you when you come across difficult words or slangs you don't understand. Feel free to post them on the "Japanese online idioms" thread.

48 名前: NC60659!jIATReI/SI 2005-03-13 22:16 ID:jhmApeim

>>47 Yes, he has spent four to five years teaching English in Japan before teaching foreign languages in Canada.

49 名前: 名無しさん@日本語勉強中 2005-03-14 05:03 ID:Heaven

>>48
I found it intriguing that Canada accomodates Japanese teachers because it's an English-speaking nation. I heard a joke before: People who speak two languages are called bilingual. People who speak three languages are trilingual. People who speak only one language are American.
I'm no racist at all, but the fact that almost all native English speakers who teach their language in Japan don't speak Japanese has made me think English-speaking people weren't bothered to learn another language, but it seems I'm a bit wrong. I hope your efforts bear fruits in the future.

About 加油, by the way, I may have seen the expression on banners when Chinese people assembled in a sports stadium and tried to cheer up their team. So I guessed it was like 頑張れ in Japanese.

50 名前: 名無しさん@日本語勉強中 2005-03-14 05:18 ID:Heaven

Um, let me cancel "almost all"-I did a lot of generalizing-I put some of them instead. Sorry about that.

51 名前: 名無しさん@日本語勉強中 2005-03-15 06:53 ID:Heaven

Japanese language is too hard to learn :(
That's why only few non-japanese people want to learn it...

52 名前: 名無しさん@日本語勉強中 2005-03-16 12:07 ID:Heaven

I know what you mean. Actually, most Japanese people feel the same way as when learning English.
That being said, are you a learner of Japanese language?

53 名前: 名無しさん@日本語勉強中 2005-03-21 16:18 ID:Heaven

I wonder if Japanese people think that learning languages like German, French or other Indogermanic languages is as difficult as learning English.

54 名前: 名無しさん@日本語勉強中 2005-03-22 05:50 ID:Heaven

What do you mean?
German language is easier to learn?
Well, I guess not.

55 名前: !WAHa.06x36 2005-03-22 13:52 ID:Heaven

Learning to pronounce German should be a lot easier for Japanese people than learning to pronounce English, at least. English pronounciation is completely crazy.

56 名前: 名無しさん@日本語勉強中 2005-03-22 16:33 ID:Heaven

On the other hand, though, does German language define every noun as male or femail, doesn't it? It seems crazy. I couldn't guess whether the Internet is male or femail, for example..

57 名前: 名無しさん@日本語勉強中 2005-03-22 18:25 ID:Heaven

"We're" is sometimes pronunced as "W're", isn't it?
Where does the E sound go? Why do Americans pronunce "we'll" as "w'll"? It sure is crazy..

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