Thread to talk about the actor Tom Hiddleston
We know have pics of TH arriving at Burbank...from The Image Direct and held a day - again.
Someone check on anonsy, make sure she has enough tinfoil.
or 'now' even. My spelling must be on holiday with Couch's...but I don't have the excuse of English being a second language!
And GossipCop has already denied the existence of any proposal or ring! Such a game!
While Swift and Hiddleston’s relationship may not last, an “ultimatum” has nothing to do with it. Swift was never pressuring Hiddleston to propose, as Gossip Cop has already busted. And we’re now told there’s been no engagement ring and proposal drama like In Touch is claiming.
>>4 Did they do it with: 'GC can confirm that Tim Huddleston has never been allowed a drawer at Taylor Swift's $48m mansion (the superstar made $14b last year because she's that talented). And furthermore GC can confirm from inside sources close to the couple, who are both talented and in love, that the Taylor did not spend the weekend searching Tim's drawers but instead filling out her check for $1m to help survivors of the floods in Louisiana. She also spent time over the weekend taking local orphans ice skating.'
Come on, GC, give a girl a part-time job during her maternity leave!
>>5 Ha ha. And wow! the Gossip Cop quote, "While Swift and Hiddleston’s relationship may not last," from the publicists marks the countdown to the end of this fauxmance, I think! Their PR is officially suggesting an end to the relationship. Nothing by Gossip Cop is accidental.
>>6 Good spot.
I think he was in RI - left Saturday, back Tuesday. No longer has the gift bag. Now en route to Aus - alone.
No People article - yet. Though I still think it is coming. Also, however, no parental pap stroll. People have I think mentioned that she has never pimped out her family for TH as he did for her.
My theory hat GC denies the true stuff slightly falls down here as I think there was a very low chance that TH was about to propose. However again there is that unintended grain of truth that is the hallmark of the GC denial, which SoSorry has identified.
>>2 I suppose in a day we'll get photos of him at LAX.
>>7 Bye Bye gift then? Noooo, I want them to walk the red carpet together at the Emmys and someone asking TH about Kim Kardashian. If Karlie Kloss made a faux pas with it, imagine TH's hands-wringing-hehehe-hmmm answer.
>>6 That "may not last" line basically means the breakup already happened and this is as close to an official statement as we're getting for now. TayTo are letting us know not to be too surprised if we don't see pap strolls anymore. Gossip Cop wouldn't print a line as telling as that. They always print stuff coming directly from publicists. No wonder the pains they took not to be photographed or filmed together at all during RI. Must have been wrapping everything up in this thirst game.
>>5 That $1 million donation gave her more positive publicity in under 24 hours than her entire summer of love tour with Tom did in two months. Even her haters are giving her mad respect and props for it. I'm just glad this way the Lousiana flood is getting more coverage otherwise it was completely buried under Olympics and Trump shenanigans.
Lol maybe that's why she flew Tom over. To break up. "Listen Tom it was fun and all but it's not going to work out anymore. I've decided to go in a different direction that's more reliable. Thanks for playing though. Here's a new I heart TS as a parting gift."
>>10 Game of Thirst. This would make a great HBO series once Game of Thrones ends. Fewer dragons, more thirsty celebs strolling around and whoring out their private lives and families for attention.
>>11 Giving a $1 million dollar donation to Louisiana is a wonderful thing. And congrats to her for giving assistance in a terrible situation. However, the dailymail wouldn't let anyone comment on the donation article for quite some time. And when the comments finally appeared, they were all positive for TS. It is it bizarre of me to think that some Tree Paine minions are controlling that page of the dailymail? B/c I don't think that the general public opinion of TS can phase shift that quickly w/o a little PR razzle dazzle behind the scenes. Again, she is quite generous, and more generous than some other public figures. Just a thought.
>>14 I think the DM doesn't care one way or the other: good comments, bad comments, they still get the clicks. It may have to do with their comment vetting. Some articles are moderated and some aren't. I think a program vets the articles, as I've seen people get away with replacing curse words with words a computer program wouldn't catch, i.e., w@nker or t1ts. If there are too many articles being vetted by the program, they may not allow comments until they're able to moderate them. Is the Swift article a moderated or non-moderated one?
And the positive comments can be explained by her uberfans. A few unhinged ones show up over at dlisted. They are quickly shooed away with sarcasm and scorn brooms when they attempt to defend her. I imagine they run over to the DM to express their love and obsequiousness to the queen snake.
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Tom Hiddleston arriving in LA on August 16, 2016
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>>17 Oh planted article, we were just waiting for you to join us. Will the rest of your party be arriving soon: People, EOnline, DM?
I'm going to do like SoSorry and paste the text into a message. Let's not give them the clicks they want:
The “Shake It Off” singer, 26, sent her private jet to Los Angeles’ Hollywood Burbank Airport on Sunday, August 14, where it picked up the Night Manager actor, 35. Clad in a cream-colored long-sleeve shirt and black pants, Hiddleston was spotted boarding the jet with an overnight backpack while carrying a gift bag. According to the source, the British hunk traveled to his girlfriend’s oceanfront mansion in Watch Hill, Rhode Island, where he spent some quality time with her family. She was spotted greeting him on the plane upon his arrival in the Ocean State.
As Hiddleswift fans know, the happy couple went public with their relationship on June 14 — just two weeks after she split fromCalvin Harris — when they were photographed kissing and holding hands while on a romantic stroll outside her seaside abode. Since then, Swift and Hiddleston have enjoyed a romantic summer together while traveling the world, globetrotting to places such as Nashville, Rome and Australia. TheAvengers actor recently alluded to his high-profile relationship with the “Bad Blood” singer-songwriter during an interview with The Hollywood Reporter.
“We all live in a world where every phone has a camera and there’s nothing new, really, about the spotlight on me. I think that’s what happens when you’re a public figure,” the Emmy nominee said when asked about his busy summer with his new flame during the August 12 Q&A.
He added, “I’ve learned that there are many sides to a story, and that sometimes there are a lot of stories out there which are false and the hardest thing is to try to not let those falsehoods affect your own life.”
So a few of the Tumblr gatekeepers were mentioned in the latest Tayto Dlisted comment section. Berlinale was accused of running people out of the fandom with her unique mix of nasty and crazy, which sounds about right.
Then 'crazy intelligent' was mentioned and a link put up to her page. I clicked through and fell down the Tumblr wormhole. Her page is interesting. But what I got from it was: girl is hanging on by a thread! TH might not be having a breakdown (thanks, Gossip Cop for setting us straight on that one), but crazy intelligent just might, and soon.
First she published her theory on what was going on:
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When it was pointed out that she was wrong:
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And then she started to get a little...yeah:
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The 'I don't care' smacks of Gossip Cop's policy of 'reverse reality.'
>>21 There is a clique of Swifties led by that girl Magen mentioned in one of those screenshots. If anyone does anything they don't like, or says anything that contradicts their very specific version of events they've more often than not made up in their own heads, they go after them full force. Magen didn't like the jetanon blog because they were anti-Hiddleswift and posted TS's jet numbers (which are really easy to find, I know we've got them on here a couple threads back), so she instructed her followers to spam and harass them. They sent jetanon death threats and spammed with hate messages from sock puppet accounts for three days until the blog finally deactivated.
Wthanon has been getting some nasty messages today, and teachatandsugar posted that she's taking a break for a few days because of all the hate messages. I've seen a couple other "skeptic" blogs completely turn off their askboxes after getting strings of hate messages.
I think these are the same people who are going after IS. It's disturbing to me that the have moved on to attacking someone who has been relatively friendly to them as far as I've seen. IS even thinks it's a real relationship, right? So they are going after her for not conforming exactly to what they want to be the truth.
>>20 1. Why is TS insinuating that TH was visiting she and her family, when she had already flown her family back to Nashville via NYC? And for the record, your man plus your parents does not equal sexy times!
2. Why did TS apparently invite people over on Sat and Sun in Watch Hill >>21 if she and TH were supposed to be having a private romantic reunion that would have to hold them for a month? Weird.
You know what would be romantic? If this relationship were actually real! And they had spent all 6 nights together in LA, rather than three perhaps fantasy nights with a full house of Swift guests together in RH. BTW, the splash video of TS alone boarding that plane w no TH in sight still haunts me...
>>23
1) Taylor Swift does not do sexy. She does wholesome and whimsy and romantic. So the article will say her parents and her and Tom had some good wholesome lovely family time. No sexy times talk.
2) Do we know for sure those slide videos were from Sat and not old 4th of July ones?
The whole thing is getting more orchestrated than the pap strolls now. How exhausting alongwith all that jet lag.
>>17 An article!! About the fond farewell before he heads back to Oz!! I am so not eating any of my clothing.
>>21 I am supremely indifferent to the super clever one getting it in the neck from all the crazy Swifties. She has been leaping on anyone who didn't toe the party line (eg suggested the relationship was fake or that maybe TH was a plonker for wearing the t shirt). So I have no sympathy at all now she is receiving a taste of her own medicine. She has also sheltered and defended Berlinale despite her appalling behaviour to others.
The crazy has been coming for a while. She posted a link to the article about TS being a bitch to that journalist who gave her a poor review. Like Berlinale I think she read that and finally started to realise that as many, many people had understood weeks ago, TH's lurve object was - problematic. I think that's the tumblr phrase. She was still battling with how to be an uber loyal TH fan AND say that TS is obviously a crazy bitch on wheels who does not deserve to get her snake hands on the Hiddleconda, when she was attacked by the Sifties for daring to post a link to the article! She threatened to close her blog - alas she thought better of it, but meltdown may yet occur.
>>22 >>26 My favorite message was from the Swiftie who talked about RI and said 'she never gets papped there unless it's a holiday or special occasion.' Yes, like introducing your new PRmance to the world. I guess that counts as a 'special occasion' which opens her up to magically being papped in RI.
Captcha: lawthness - Maybe a word for you to use, Anon: 'I practice lawthness.' or 'Your honour, as a practicianator of lawthness, I would humbly ask....'
Okay, the weirdness continues. Apparently the stewardess who saw Tom wearing the black shirt and posted the pics at instagram, jiwashee, said that she saw TH at 11pm Tuesday. But, it's daylight in their photo! And when she was questioned about the time that she saw him, she deleted the comment. And also, the two girls who claimed to have seen TH at LAX on Tuesday, Melissabrown@hobbitboogie and morgan@six_32, have cryptic twitter accounts and have actually tweeted each other before! People are asserting that the plane stunt and weird tweets mean that he's been in Brisbane all this time. Conversely, if TH left for Brisbane on Tuesday at 11:24pm, he already arrived on Thursday Aug 18 at 5:24am on Qantas (they're hours ahead.) And we will know, or not, if HD Brisbane arrival pics pop up. So, the subterfuge continues. My head hurts. Please someone sleuth this out.
>>28 What a mess. If they are pulling shenanigans and he managed to get into LAX without being papped, I'll be surprised if Brisbane airport pics show up - he would need to avoid them too if there is some sort of false timeline he's working with. Unless they just say they were taken on a different date like they did with the pics from Saturday.
Again, what a mess.
This HL article is garbage of course, because the timeline makes no sense.
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Filming ended in March and they've seen each other just once since (at sdcc), so how could she have gotten sick of him talking about TS?
>>29 Also, someone pointed out that if TH actually flew back from RH on Tuesday, that he could have just landed at LAX like he and TS did on the way to Oz. That would have been the most time efficient thing to do if he was flying commercial on Qantas, the same day at LAX. But the difference between Burbank and LAX is that you can't take pics on the Tarmac at LAX. So TH only must have used Burbank to stage photos of a real departure and arrival from RH, or to fake ones our benefit. Wild.
>>31 Personally, I believe he went to RI. Even if he didn't, that doesn't matter in the larger picture of this relationship. In terms of his and her credibility, yes, those possible lies and manipulations matter, but not in regards to the validity of the relationship.
The pics of his LA departure and LA arrival (at an airport where no one is EVER papped), that the pics came from their go-to agency, the use of her jet (like she sent the car and chauffeur to bring him to her like a take away order, like she could claim the mileage as a business expense, like she was responsible for transportation under some prearranged agreement), the UsWeekly article, the possibility of IG pics later on. Add those all up, carry the 1, multiple by the square root of 36 and it = FAKE.
>>32 OMG! Heezy! on tumblr just published an iPhone screen cap of when the TH arrival photos were uploaded online! The supposed arrival of TH from Rhode Island pics were uploaded online on Monday at 9pm pacific, which means that the photos of TH in front of TSs jet are fake, because The TS plane was not back at Burbank till Tuesday night! Wow! Could someone pretty please post a link who is savvy with a computer?
And now People has there article up. Again, I'm not willing to give them clicks:
Tom Hiddleston Reunites with Taylor Swift in Rhode Island – Courtesy of Her Private Plane
BY KAREN MIZOGUCHI 08/17/2016 AT 10:00 PM EDT
Rhode Island has a special place in Taylor Swift and Tom Hiddleston's romance, after all it was the very place Hiddleswift first went public in June. Most recently, the couple "enjoyed a quiet weekend at her Rhode Island home. Taylor sent her plane to pick up Tom before the weekend," a source tells PEOPLE. Hiddleston, 35, was photographed departing for New England on Swift's plane Sunday and was pictured arriving in Los Angeles on Tuesday. The British actor has been busy with his acting career. He attended a SAG-AFTRA Foundation event in Los Angeles on Aug. 12 and also has been filming Thor: Ragnarok in Australia. And most notably, Taylor's Watch Hill mansion in Rhode Island was the same place she hosted her star-studded Fourth of July weekend where The Night Manager star mingled with her squad. This isn't the first time Swift, 26, has provided her private plane for Hiddleston. In June, she chartered a flight to meet her boyfriend's parents in England.
One picture from their pap walk at HIllstone and one of him arriving back in LA.
And that's it. It's a mix of remembrances of relationship moments past (rock pics, July 4), with dollops of sugar momma (use of her plane to fetch him to her) and lashings of serious actor Tom (work events, filming). Oddly, they get the date wrong too, they say he departed Sunday but Saturday seems to be the departure date. The dating and time delays for these airport pics are a crap load of sketchy >>33.
>>34 If you have a few minutes go to wthanon4u on tumblr and check out the recent posts about the photos from not-August-16. Summary is that the upload timestamps are from the 15th and the plane in the background of the pics wasn't at Burbank or LAX when Taylor's jet landed on the 16th, therefore the pictures couldn't have been taken then
>>34 Wow. Thanks for the People info. That People article is annoying. Interestingly, jetanon has now PROVEN that the pictures of TH coming down from the Swift plane in the black shirt allegedly taken on Aug 16th were completely staged due to the fact that the plane behind him on the tarmac was flying on the 16th and thus was not at Burbank,"they were NOT taken on August 16. N582JS made two flights that day, one around noon PST that landed at LAX, and then one that flew from LAX shortly after that flew towards San Diego. It didn't fly the rest of the day!"
So now we have absolute confirmation that the Swift plane shots of TH were completely false. Check What the Heezy! on tumblr for more jetanon updates. Good to know that we're not just being rude about this whole thing. My goodness...
TS is in Nashville
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Like Anon. I don't see what difference does it make in the big scheme of things whether he actually flew to RI or went along with another stage of pics which to me seems still too elaborate.
They're a MESS. These two are.a.mess. I've run out of sighs. The sigh tank is empty.
I'm not totally sold on the TH didn't go to RI theory, but it wouldn't surprise me. Because every time we thought their mess couldn't get any messier, it HAS.
Either way, TH seems to have hit the empty mark on his integrity tank. He's either a lap dog who was carted out to his pretend girlfriend's house for the sake of pretense. Or he faked boarding and deplaning her jet - and then hid out for a few days? - again for the sake of pretense. He's not winning in either situation.
And I know he doesn't give a fuck what I think, I get that. One disillusioned fan questioning his integrity is one but I don't think I'm alone.
Sigh. (I guess I did have one more in the tank)
Apparently if you download a torilla photo of TH from the alleged August 16th arrival date at Burbank, and then you hit properties and right click, you see the metadata table for photo and when the photo was originally saved to the server online. The gals on lipstick alley just double checked. A lipstick alley girl got a photo that was uploaded to the original server on August 16 at 12 am in the morning! And Team Swift is claiming that TH got to Burbank from RI and was papped by image direct sometime between 7-8pm on August 16th in the evening when the TS jet landed on August 16th. It's just a farce. Everyone's checking the meta data records to prove it! Golly!
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>>34 Check that out.
Exploding with sighs here.
I don't consider this new evidence concrete enough to unravel my new roll of tinfoil. Yet.
I miss the pre foil days when the occasional eyeroll and cringe was the worst TH engendered.
I'm on the 12th hour of a shoot that looks like it will go for 16hrs and I have the flu so groan and sigh
I think he went to RI on Saturday and somehow evaded the guy filming the plane's arrival (whether by cunning or bribery who knows). Mad though the last months have been I still just about think it is a stretch too far to say he faked going to RI. What's the point? He has a few days free, and even if the relationship is totally fake they liked each other enough to be willing to engage in PDA in public and to actually genuinely spend a lot of time together. So unless they now loathe each other, if he wants to present a narrative that they spent the weekend together, why not just go to RI for a weekend?
Then he came back but on another private plane and a day earlier than the release of the pics suggested. Then left for Australia probably Tuesday evening as the pic with the stewardess suggests (who knows if that was daylight in her pic - it could easily have been bright backlighting inside the building). She probably did take it at 11pm Tuesday as she said. Who knows about the other sightings in Twitter - we all know from experience that people on Twitter make things up, so I tend to believe only the ones with pics and take the rest with a pinch of salt.
A few thoughts about the weekend on my analysis -
1) it was very short - arrived 10pm Saturday and must have left first thing Monday to be back during the day on Monday. He could have left on Tuesday and caught a flight Tuesday night if he had wanted, and he is used to these punishing schedules when it suits him. But he didn't.
2) she didn't let him use her plane to go back to LA (unless the tracking was wrong).
3) no parents there.
4) friends allegedly there over the weekend so no alone time.
5) the inevitable articles from USW and People, using the plane pics as a more low key version of the joint pap stroll.
6) hints from GC that it may not be forever.
>>38 Exactly, in the end we are trying to determine the type and level of cringe TH decided to perform this past weekend, but we are still talking of cringe.
>>37 1) She has no boobs in the photo. 2) Of course she's wearing makeup to work out, which is a very bad thing for the skin.
>>36 N582JS is another plane
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>>45 Yeah, JetAnon used that other plane's, N582JS, log to figure out if Tom did arrive in LA on the dates the paps be tabloids claim. That's what SoSorry means.
>>45 Yes, I know. N582JS is not a Swift a plane. N582JS is a plane that was photographed behind TH, in the photo of him allegedly arriving from RI on the evening of August 16 in the black shirt. And Jetnon is saying that that plane was not on the tarmac at Burbank on the evening of August 16, making the Swift team timeline impossible. She's currently checking the charts to see all of the flights and destinations the N582JS took from August 13-August 16. Sorry for confusion. Love hearing all of the theories and conclusions from everyone!
This whole thing now is making it look like Tom wasn't really in RI. Otherwise why fake the dates? If he went to RI, what would faking the dates achieve?
The only reason I can think of for them faking the dates on those pics and all of this is if he never went to RI and flew out to Oz on Sun, and they wanted to make it look like the relationship was still going strong even though he didn't have time or make time to go see Taylor. Otherwise why lie about the dates?
Don't know if this means it's over. It could be hence faking the RI trip and now Gossip Coo dropping hints about the relationship could be being over.
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>>48 I don't think he can have flown out on Sunday because of the pic with the stewardess. If he flew Sunday, she could not have seen him leaving LAX on Tuesday evening. I just do not believe that TH could or would ask a fan not to release a pic for a certain period, or to give it a fake date. Too risky. What if she sold that tale to the tabloids?
It's so easy to spot the fake Twitter accounts paid by celebrities! You don't even need to look at their timelines. Just go to Twitter and type "Tom Hiddleston" in the search field. You'll see the same story ( TH jets into LA on Taylor Swift's private jet) in severam sequential tweet by different twitter accounts (even their twitter profile pics and description are clearly fake and similar).
Wow! E! news long article that say it is not really buying that the TH TS is real and can last. B/c TH is so uncomfortable and awkward in the press, and didn't know what he was signing up for hanging out with TS. It even mentions a snarky lack or RI pics from the weekend! Can anyone link this for me? Its on E! News website.
Decoding Everything Tom Hiddleston Has Said About Dating Taylor Swift: What to Make of Their Private Yet Very Public Romance
by Natalie Finn | Wed, Aug 17, 2016 4:27 PM
E! news Natalie Finn's link to the article via her twitter account
>>50 The stewardess never said where she saw Tom. We're assuming LAX because of the tweets and Taylor's flight trajectory and of course the pap pcs.?The stewardess did answer that she met him 3 hrs before from when she posted the pic but deleted that comment. The pic could be from Australia for all we know.
The bookstore girl from LA kept mum on when and where she met Tom and what book he purchased because he asked her to so he could've asked the stewardess to keep the details of their meeting on the downlow too. It's not unreasonable for a celebrity to say "please I don't want stalkers or paparazzi invading my privacy, if you can please just not mention where you saw me or when, that'd be great" and a casual fan or a casual star struck person who just got their pic would agree.
I noticed that the stewardess was talking to someone in Malay before when she posted the pic. Now those comments are gone. They might have had info that could've revealed when and where the pic was taken that any TH or Taylor fan speaking Malay could've translated. Otherwise why delete them?
I don't know anymore if he went to RI or staged it all so he could fly out to Oz when he needed also fulfill the whole "Taylor and Tom going strong amid breakup rumors" narrative at the same time. But the discrepancies between the meta data on the pics and N582JS's flights on the 16th and the official timeline given in the tabloids...it's kinda suspect.
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Studio Gal from Marvel has a new alleged update on TH regarding TS lack of showing at the Adele concert and the plane stunt. It's pretty juicy if it's true.
>>56 I'm not really buying what Studio Gal has been selling so far. Also Luke's reply to studio execs is not something that would ever happen in real life.
I've been thinking about it and I don't think the metadata thing and timeline not matching up is that big of a deal because it's just the dates that are off. The rest, her plane picking him up and dropping him off and the jumpy pap video of Taylor getting on her plane but never getting off video, all seem to indicate he was there in Rhode Island with her.
I think they're laying low right now and that's why she went on the plane to tell him to stay put and then probably struck some deal to have the rogue photog mention Tom wasn't there.
They were met with a lot of ridicule and their individual images suffered. So they're working on fixing those hence making sure to get photographed separately a lot. Then by the time the Emmy's roll around and they do their red carpet walk, it'll be tremendous publicity. Tom knows he's not going to win the Emmy but he can still win Emmy night. The photographers will love them on the red carpet and those pictures are going to be everywhere and it's going to catapult them bigger than ever in the public eye. Now that there is no drama Taylor has to bury, they're going to be more "mature" and less heavy handed in how they display their relationship to the world. I'm also thinking they will still be together when Skull Island premieres and they'll walk that red carpet too.
Tom wants fame and being with Taylor publicly gives him that. Bringing down the pap strolls a few notches will also help them build a better image as a couple now. I don't believe there's a breakup or that there will be one anytime soon. These two work well in terms of their publicly and celebrity goals.
>>57 I'll agree with not buying Studio Gal. How does she know so much about what TS was going to do? She supposedly works at Marvel but knows all about TS's publicity plans with Adele. She also knows TH's Emmy interview schedule (which had little to do with Marvel except at the very end point, i.d., when he'd return). And of course she knows that AMC was paying for his room; doesn't everyone? AMC was sponsoring his Emmy push. That's the mix of crystal ball and the obvious that a catfisher uses. No, no, no.
>>57 I won't agree with the Emmys or that this low key approach is part of a new strategy. I know that Lainey thinks they're going to keep it on the DL until the Emmys and then make their triumphal RC debut. But she's saying that because he's got to work and seems to be done with his Emmy campaign. So there'll be no more (or fewer) trips back to the US. Then it would be the case that Tayto wouldn't have as many pap stroll opportunities. She's just going with the obvious; Lainey can be cheap like that. Because you can bet that if there were an opportunity, they would stroll. Low key is not in their playbook. Well, not in hers. Remember post SnapchatGate everyone and their mother was screaming, 'Tay, stay out of the spotlight.' She couldn't. Paps when they got back from Oz, pap dinner, the daily gym in NYC, IG gardening with the parents. She cannot do on the DL. It's not in her nature. It's only opportunity that's keeping them from pap strolling. They pap strolled this past weekend: the pics at the airport and the articles from multiple outlets.
They may still 'be together' but I don't think they'll make it to the Emmy RC; I really don't think they'll make it to the Shit Island premiere - RC or still together. I could be wrong, but while he wants fame, I would think that TH doesn't want this type of fame simply because it's not Tom fame. Every answer he gives is automatically glossed as pertaining to TS. He has to constantly worry about TS related questions slipping into his interviews. Luke surely says 'no relationship questions,' but then someone will sneak in with a 'high profile summer' question which is not about Tom and the WORK, but about TS. And those questions are making his life miserable - remember his face during the Wrap interview, remember the small fire he nearly started by wringing his hands. His love of attention may be able to overcome the very negative attention he's been getting - we tend to wear rose-colored glasses for the sake of self-preservation. But his love of attention won't be able to overcome that the attention is always filtered through TS before it gets to him.
The Emmys are a conundrum. Remember Kanye is nominated for the "Famous" video with TS's waxed naked body in it. And Beyoncé is nominated for "Lemonade". I don't think that TS will want to face Kanye and KK at the awards at all since they are arch rivals, or face Beyoncé either, because TS is the only one who is not nominated for an Emmy! TS could do a low key date night, and just attend the Emmy parties after the ceremony with TH. TH will probably hang with Benedict and Idris, and they could sit in a booth privately, etc. But, somehow I can't see TS wearing a simple black dress, like Amal Clooney, and being an elegant appendage and a dutiful date for TH. To TS she is a swan, not a dutiful hand maiden. Plus, TH would first, have to walk the red carpet w/o TS, and try to keep the focus on his nomination and his work, while fending off all the annoying "Where's TS" questions. I hope that TH will have to skip the Emmys for Thor 3, and they can end this by latest mid-September. Again I have no proof of this, but I think that the dinner at Hillstone that TS had to boomerang back overnight to LA for was suspect. It was if that was the last photo stunt with him that she could plan. And I hope that the Gossip Cop "relationship may not last" quote is a PR clue. But I think I could be biased because of that. Any thoughts?
>>59 I completely agree with you on the inability of TS to be low key. But my new guess for the end of this is early October. TS doesn't have anything planned till the Formula one concerts on Oct 21 Texas. So If there is going to be a split, she will have to have some positive press on the horizon. And TH is filming Thor 3 though Nov, anyway.
>>59 Except that TH is the one who is working right now and the one who was working in LA and yet it wasn't TS who flew to LA to spend time together but TH. If he didn't want this type of fame he wouldn't have moved from LA.
>>62 Yes that's true. However, if they had continued dinner nights out in LA, they could have been accused of wanting to be seen together, more than wanting to be in each other's company. RI is private, it implies mystery. Plus, its good for TS because it looks like he's chasing her. However, if TS had just chartered a private plane and flown to LA undercover, they would have had 6 whole nights, together, and not 3. Wouldn't lovers want 6 whole days and nights together before a month separation before the Emmys? Why if you're in love or lust do want less time together. Weird.
>>57 >>58 Studio Gal lost all credibility with that post. It read like desperate stan fiction. I've never subscribed to this outrageous conspiracy theory about RI stunting and I'm just not prepared to reach that far without solid proof, and solid enough proof has not been provided.
Despite that, they obviously stunted and fed their fav press those plane pics and articles about their weekend together.
I still can't comprehend having an authentic getting to know you and your family yet falling desperately and rapidly in love party in front of the entire world.
I know enough actors and performers to know that many are so insecure they require constant positive feedback. They are such exhausting creatures that most crewies have a motto that we refuse to ever date one. So perhaps these needy, mutually desperate camera sluts have fulfilled their attention deficit while simultaneously falling for each other. Or they are simply stunting for attention.
I think most of us predicted they would quit the hand- holding global tour out of necessity in favor of this kind of approach once his Emmy campaign started and I think they will remain hidden in full view until the Emmys.
I have no idea and I quite frankly don't give a shit if it lasts to the Emmys or beyond. That was an incredible hiddlestunting summer they granted us. So many laughs, so much foil and I have new wrinkles from cringing so hard.
For showing us all how fake authenticity can be, I salute them.
I am back in Aldeburgh for a long weekend and I have couple of crumbs for you.
1) the flat black sandal mules (slides) TS was wearing on the beach were purchased from a boutique there (I saw them on sale). Makes me wonder if the trip to see mama H was spontaneous (thrust on TH by her). I can understand that she might not have parked wellies, but sandals? For a beach trip followed by Rome? All most odd.
2) his car is parked on his mother's drive. Which, by the way, has a new-since-Google-Earth photos 6 foot high wall (car was visible through a barred gate, though the front door is behind a solid gate on an intercom). So that drive down was solely for the benefit of the paps I am guessing, and they rode back to the airport in the bodyguards' car (more romantic time!).
>>60 Are you thinking VMAs? I didn't think either KW or B had Emmy noms.
>>65 The theory was that this family get together was planned in advance of Tayto's existence but I wouldn't be surprised if their stop off in the UK and the Rome trip were on the hoof plans. Even after the cozy Nashville restaurant pics, broadsheets and tabloids were still side-eyeing them big time. They quickly threw out the story (I don't think it really happened) of her introducing him to her parents and started working on legitimizing the relationship. What says 'legitimate relationship' more than meeting the parents and taking a romantic trip?!
Anon, if you can, throw an order of fish and chips at the jag to show our displeasure. Your husband can throw a copy of Polybius to show his hope for TH's recovery!
Everyone, enjoy your weekend.
>>66 Beyoncé is Emmy nominated for the hbo special of the lemonade album! But not Kanye. Sorry I misspoke. Thanks for the check.
>>66 Aldeburgh has some of the best fish and chips anywhere (in summer there are huge queues outside the Golden Galleon the whole time it is open). TH's car is not worth the sacrifice, even though it is the most elegant thing that's been near TH's arse all summer.
Bon weekend to all!
The Sun is pushing the RC appearance angle:
https://www.thesun.co.uk/tvandshowbiz/bizarre/1641542/tom-hiddleston-and-taylor-swift-to-make-first-public-appearance-next-month-for-award-show-date/
>>69 Again, no more clicks for Tayto.
TOM HIDDLESTON and TAYLOR SWIFT have become showbiz’s shining couple since I first revealed their secret relationship to the world in June.Now, after months of dinner dates and secret holidays, they are planning to go official next month by making their first proper public appearance together at the Emmy Awards. British heartthrob Tom is up for the Best Actor in a Limited Series or Television Movie gong for his role in BBC drama The Night Manager and Taylor is set to be by his side to celebrate. An awards insider told me: “Tom normally doesn’t like his public life overlapping with his private life but he is so happy with Taylor that it’s the perfect time. “The event organisers have extended an invite for a ‘guest’ to join him because they know if they walk the red carpet together it will make it the most talked-about show of the year. “While the Emmys may be about celebrating the best shows on television, the organisers that weekend are looking for just one show — Taylor and Tom. “The Emmys red carpet itself would give them the most publicity, and organisers have made it clear to Tom and his reps that she is more than welcome to join him.” Taylor is no stranger to the Emmys having won the Original Interactive Program award last year. But there is competition from other events who are vying to get them both together as guests. I’ve learned the LA branch of Bafta is throwing a private tea party the night before the awards, which will be attended by the best British actors in town. My source said: “The organisers have extended an invite to Tom and his guests, knowing that Taylor loves British tea, Downton Abbey and is a fan of many TV stars from this country.” When Taylor started dating CALVIN HARRIS last year the couple made their first official outing at another awards bash, the Billboard Music Awards. It’s like history repeating itself.
Pics from LAX to Oz, one of Tom on Bafta RC.
My fav quotes include:
And finally nothing about this is official or exclusive. I imagine his +1 doesn't already have a name filled out...unless it's Luke's.
I really can't understand why she has so many bodyguards. There are so many A-list celebrities who drive their own cars and travel comercial. And even those who do have bodyguards are more discreet (usually 1 bodyguard without earphones). She thinks she's the fucking POTUS. So pathetic!
Sorry, I wanted to write "fly commercial".
>>72 I read this and screamed aloud, "SECRET HOLIDAYS?!!!!!"
Fan fiction at its finest. But the Sun has to support the relationship because it broke the story.
>>59 "remember the small fire he nearly started by wringing his hands" LOL! His reaction was absolutely hilarious to watch. For a man who craves fame, he's so woefully unprepared for all the unpredictable, sneaky, invasive questions it brings with it. You're right about Taylor unable to lay low, she has this pathological need to keep herself relevant and constantly update everyone on her life like a Facebook status. But I think Tom likes/ wants that because I do agree with you on him being in a bubble right now and refusing to accept the negativity or even acknowledge that level of negative press to himself. I don't know though if he's really all that bothered about all his fame coming because of Taylor for now. He's probably still viewing it like the MET gala dance, that it got huge coverage because it was Taylor AND him dancing together and not because Taylor Swift danced at the MET with this British actor named Tom Hiddleston. That their relationship is getting coverage because it's Taylor AND him, not because it's Taylor Swift in another new relationship soon after her breakup. Meaning he sees himself (or deluded himself) as just an equally famous half of their coupling and that he's finally getting the recognition he's always deserved. I do get a sense he has that high opinion of himself with all that humble bragging he does. But if they go, I do think Emmy red carpet will be that wake up call that he's been running from this entire time.
>>60 If they're planning on the Emmy red carpet debut and want all that coverage, he's not missing the Emmy's and she is definitely not letting him walk down that red carpet by himself. She'll be attached to his arm and will be standing right next to him during the interviews making that surprise O face and being OTT gushing like she is whenever someone in her squad achieves something. She always makes their moment about herself and this won't be any different. Though I don't think Tom will take to it kindly. That Emmy red carpet and everyone shouting her name and asking her to pose more than him will finally knock it home that he's famous because of her and that she controls and hogs all the limelight. Right now he sees her controlling the media as savvy and is probably super impressed by her and how she plays the game. But come Emmy night, I think his vision will finally clear. Unless they've already broken up and are keeping it quiet until final voting is over, I'm thinking their breakup will be soon after the Emmy's. Don't know what reason they'll use but it'll be one that paints her as the victim.
>>64 "these needy, mutually desperate camera sluts have fulfilled their attention deficit while simultaneously falling for each other. Or they are simply stunting for attention." Their need for attention is on the same level. Taylor loves to keep the spotlight on herself and Tom has been craving it for a while and finally getting it now. I don't know if they're really into each other or the idea of each other as it pertains to their images. I don't think they know the difference either or care to. Real couple or not, the stunting for attention is real as ever and that's all that really matters to both of them.
>>72 Don't all award shows give out a plus one to their guests lol I doubt Tom's is a special one with Taylor's name embossed on it.
Nice try Sun but this couple isn't shining or secret. But thanks for confirming Taylor's Anglophile obsession.
Btw, I don't know if we discussed it and I missed it but the latest Gossip Cop dropped a breakup hint and considering how everything they say is directly from HQ, it's not a mistake. They've always made sure to say they're going strong but this time when debunking the found ring in sock drawer proposal story, they said "While Swift and Hiddleston’s relationship may not last, an “ultimatum” has nothing to do with it."
This could mean a breakup is coming up soon and there's a deadline and it very well could be before the Emmy's otherwise why bring up the hint now if they're planning on doing the red carpet. Now I'm rethinking my whole red carpet publicity assessment.
>>76 I just keep thinking about his face when he got asked if Taylor was with him at SDCC - that was not the reaction of a happy man. I also think Team Tom specifically asked for no Taylor questions at the Facebook Q&A last week, and when they managed to get that "summer in the spotlight" question in anyway, the mere implication of Taylor was enough to send him into near-breakdown mode. I don't believe he's deluded anymore. To me it looks like he's desperately trying to hold on to his own identity as 'Tom Hiddleston, actor' as it's being swallowed up by 'Tom Swift, boyfriend.'
>>78 Yes we did - but it just goes to show that everyone is independently picking up the same subliminal message from that article.
>>76 He's already experienced that when he arrived in Australia with her. He was there as the star of a big Hollywood film and she was there only as his girlfriend. It should be all about him but the media only cared about her. At the airport and outside his hotel. Only her name was shouted, all the fans were hers (he was only Taylor's boyfriend) and all the questions were about her. He even tried telling a reporter that he rather ralk about HIS work but it didn't work. He was just the boyfriend.
>>80 Ah no wonder you guys don't see an Emmy red carpet! In my defense I just picked up on that imminent breakup message.
>>79 His reaction at SDCC was barely contained lol Now that I've read Gossip Cop's latest TayTo update, I'm seeing what you guys mean. The interviews in Aus were terrible with him trying to talk work and them ignoring him so they could get him to pose with Taylor's fan lol
If he's gotten the message and not getting papped together is the gradual breakup strategy, well maybe Tom does care about being famous in his own right instead of unearned fame. If they do make that red carpet debut, I'll be hiding under a blanket because of all the cringe.
She might still be there as his +1 without walking the red carpet with him.
>>73 She's most likely getting more than her share of loons contacting her. I'm sure some of them have escalated to a scary level and she's being overly cautious. If that's the reason, I don't blame her (thinking back to several celebrity shootings, stabbings, break-ins).
>>83 I don't think that move is an acceptable one for her. She's all about that heightened visibility lifestyle. She said it one of her interviews a while back, "When I first started writing songs, I was always scared that my songs were too personal — like, if I put someone's name in a song, people won't relate to it as much. But what I saw happening was, if I let my fans into my life and my feelings and what I'm going through — my vulnerabilities, my fears, my insecurities — it turns out they have all those things, too, and it kind of connects us." http://www.npr.org/2012/11/03/164186569/taylor-swift-my-confidence-is-easy-to-shake
That's the bottom line of what Taylor Swift the musician and celebrity is. That's why everything about her life is so public. Its not just her singing that's her career but how she lives her life in public and then gives the behind the scenes commentary on it in her songs and album. That's why I think if she does Emmy's with Tom, she will be front and center on the red carpet. Otherwise she won't bother.
Btw, the comments on that NPR interview are interesting and this is from 2012 btw.
>>85 It doesn't surprise me. Her "music" is so bad that it wouldn't be relevant for itself. So he transforms her lihe in a reality show to sell records and concerts. She's as much a realitity star as the Kardashians. At least the Kardashians don't try to hide what they are. What bothers me is that Tom Hiddleston is becoming a reality star too, instead of a serious actor.
TH just tweeted about vulnerable children in Africa. Admirable. Most people do nothing. But Emmy voting is in full swing. And I think TH is trying to reclaim his prior image as a humanitarian/thespian in the press. I think he is waking up to the gravity of the world view that his private looks like a bit like a circus, in which he seems to have second billing, sadly.
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>>65 I'm starting to wonder if his house is going through renovation (back in May there was a tweet from an interior designer to TH where she told him to contact her if he decided to do one. It was later deleted, I think it was posted by Theoanon). Maybe TH's family and Rome were his idea to sell the stunt.
>>68,72 thanks for the laughs
>>88 I remember that, though I did wonder at the time if he met the woman at a party and said "oh you are an interior designer, I've been thinking about redoing my house." As small talk but then she promptly tweets him looking for the work! He said something in an interview fairly recently about how when he was home he had lunch with his sisters and thought about redoing his kitchen, which made it sound rather vague and speculative (since this is a man who bought the vendor's furniture when he moved in!)
On the other hand, he is terrible at choosing clothes so he got a stylist. Maybe he has realised that if he is also terrible at picking interiors (and has a GF with fancy homes) that he should use an interior designer.
Blog wthanon4u posted an opinion piece from a long time HW PR friend about The Relationship. Very long:
http://wthanon4u.tumblr.com/post/149191709595/musings-from-a-film-industry-consultant
With the thorough analysis done on this board, the essay doesn't really add anything new. I liked the comparison to Liz and Dick.
Now it's a wait and see if they break up after the Emmy voting (Aug. 29) or continue to date and show up together at that award show and if so, will they walk the red carpet, or will he walk alone while she sneaks into the venue, but does sit with him.
>>90 That's fairly possible. I even remember him mentioning in an interview that he doesn't do anything fancy in his free time (pre-TS), reading, watching films, spending time with his family and thinking how to renovate his house.
Alternatively, he maybe decided to sell that house and buy a fancier ones.
>>91 I read that this morning (for me) and thought that either all of us at this board have a secret job as a HW PR, or we have a natural talent for it :)
Apparently #TaylorStayHome from the Emmys in trending on Twitter. TH was out to dinner in Australia. And someone on the E! about TH not realizing what he was getting into with TS just commented on the "fake" RI pics.
He Thor looks great! Tom Hiddleston enjoys dinner with a friend on the Gold Coast after returning Down Under to film Marvel blockbuster
By Hannah Moore For Daily Mail Australia
Published: 05:36 EST, 20 August 2016 | Updated: 05:42 EST, 20 August 2016
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>>94 What's happened to Olly, I wonder? He is Tom's go to date when he hasn't got anyone else/is working.
>>93 It's all rather obvious, isn't it? 30+ years in the PR world and there's nothing much beyond the obvious in her post. Perhaps she was thinking we needed a primer when we really need more advanced reading. I've always been of the opinion that very few professions require specific, special subject knowledge: academia, medicine, the law, certain tech jobs. The others just require common sense and a bit of training. PR must fall into the latter category.
>>94 This will be known as her hashtag summer. None of them good! I say there should be a #tomstayinOzandwork hashtag.
>>95 Did you check the back seat of the Jag? Were mummy and daddy too busy stunting that they forgot about him!? He was at Comic-Con and of course delivered the jag during the first tarmac stunt. Maybe he's in Oz but we've just not seen him. He must be struggling without his new PA buddy.
A while back I posted an article about EO's most recent project, which is about a fan that becomes obsessed with social media and a celeb called Taylor. It seems EO has created an IG for her character. It's all coincidence - I don't think she's making a veiled reference to Tayto - but the name of the IG is hi-larry. https://www.instagram.com/_welltaylored_/
There's also this: https://www.instagram.com/officiallyelizabetholsen/ It has the blue tick but who knows. It says it is meant to head off the fake EO accounts on IG and is run by a rep. I wouldn't think she herself would post and doesn't seem likely to follow anyone (she hasn't after 15w).
Finally there's this which makes me hate her and her perfect hair! I know she goes darker and shorter sometimes, but this style suits her so much. https://www.instagram.com/p/BJU4KQZDqrQ/
>>97 I think that her friend Jade-Olivia follows the "official" account, as do a few others from the Avengers cast (not TH!!!!). That makes me think it is as it says, a placeholder to stop imposters. There was a spate of quite convincing fakes in about March, apparently to capitalise on the ongoing THEO traction.
I love her hair. I gave my stylist a pic of her at Deauville and said "that, please."
Tabloid interest in her has died right down since it became apparent on the rocks of RI that THEO definitely wasn't a thing (any more). I haven't seen an article in the DM for ages and we were getting regular "EO steps out for coffee radiating casual style" up till the day after the Met Gala. Makes me wonder now, for about the millionth time, how much of that was Luke-driven. Though he is so massively incompetent and apparently lazy that I do ask myself whether he would have been capable of any of that. He really is an amateur hour publicist.
>>97 I do wonder about the character name a bit! My thought is that they were always intending to reference TS as the celeb character, because she is such a social media whore, I mean maven. I am sure it was a decision made long before TayTo was a twinkle in TH's crotch area.
However I imagine that recent events, and EO's connection to them, has not made the creative team rethink that decision. It will just get the project additional interest.
>>99 I just looked back a few posts in the character's IG and I found this: https://www.instagram.com/p/BHWPE7wDO_z/?taken-by=_welltaylored_
"Squad goals", eh? I think I am right.....
