What are some essential games for Windows 9x? I'm thinking about building a vintage gaming pc specifically for these mostly forgotten games that rarely work on modern PCs.
>>1
The mech games
Stuff like MechWarrior, Heavy Gear, Earth/Starsiege, G-Nome, etc.
>>10
I mostly hate DOSBox. Why is the cycle detection so shit? Development is stagnant too but we have dosbox-staging, fortunately.
>>13
Define cycle detection being shit. Are you referring to the results of leaving it at "auto" (which I'll admit is shit and you shouldn't use the auto setting unless you're really unsure what to set it at), or are you referring to other weird speed issues that might crop up with particular games?
DOSBox is a bit irrelevant when it comes to Windows 9x games though. Yeah, there are instructions where you can jump through a bunch of hoops to run Windows 95 in DOSBox but it's janky and unstable. The unfortunate truth is that if you want to run 9x stuff that's not compatible with XP or beyond, your best bet is still to get an actual Windows 9x era PC. Understandably this is kind of a barrier to entry if space/cost is a problem, especially if you want to play stuff that calls for a Voodoo card and shit.
>>14
I'm referring to both problems. It gets to the point where I'm playing Wing Commander and I never know if the game is running at the speed it's supposed to.
>>15
"auto" cycles only swaps between "max" and a single fixed value, and doesn't even do that reliably in all cases, which is why I recommend not to use it if you can help it. The default value of 3000 when it doesn't auto-swap to max is approximately a 286... maybe. From what I gather there's no reliable 1:1 conversion of cycles value to CPU speed, which sucks.
The general good procedure for speed-sensitive games is to determine what type of CPU (and, if need be, accessory hardware) the game was ideally run on and making a config that sets cycles, and perhaps some other settings (e.g. core, cputype, possibly graphics and sound card settings) accordingly. Outside of very finicky games you should be able to get away with making a few configs that represent different emulated computers rather than having to make a unique config for every game (though that can have its advantages like a specific startup .BAT script) Useful reading:
https://www.dosbox.com/wiki/Configuration:CPU
DOSBox-staging is supposed to have steadier/more accurate cycles but I haven't yet experimented with it enough to vouch for that. I'm pretty wary of forked builds in general since in my experience they've tended to be no better/actually worse, but I'm basing that opinion primarily on Daum and X.
>>14
Pcem can emulate a voodoo1,2,3. for early XP era games you could probably get it to work on a modern PC with some patches/workarounds.
>>17
PCem is a royal pain in the ass to set up (finding and setting up system ROMs, HD images which are a lot less convenient than mounting directories in DOSBox) and in my experience far too slow to be any good for 9x stuff, though I suppose your mileage may vary if you have a beefier computer. It's not worth the hassle for me but if it works for you, more power to you I guess.
>>18
In my opinion it should definitely be considered before buying a whole new computer.
All ROMs can be found in one easily extracted file as the first search result of "PCem ROMS" (except for the newest update which i hope will be added soon). For HD images you simply have to specify the volume size in MB. I agree with you in terms of performance, although it's heavily dependent on what you're doing on the emulated system. Currently nothing can 100% emulate an k6-II+ 550mhz or Pentium II at 450mhz being stress tested. Seeing that different processors can be swapped out in the same socket however, it's easy to find something optimal for your host.
By far the most difficult part of the emulator is actually installing software on your system. Which you need all the CDs or ISO images for. You'd need to find hardware drivers, software installers, and system tools just like you'd need to on a real system. Alternatively you could inject the files into the Image file using a tool like WinImage.
I find both PCem's focus on accuracy just as much as DOSBox's focus on convenience.
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If you're running some later form of Windows (from XP up), DXWnd is worth taking a look at. It comes with a bunch of premade configurations that've proven useful for running the ornery 9x games I've thrown at it so far.
https://sourceforge.net/projects/dxwnd/
No idea if it's any help for running things through WINE though. Probably not.
The Neo Geo is the greatest 16 bit machine of all time. From early titles like Magician Lord to the late era triumphs in pushing sprites and pre-rendered CG, Pulstar and Blazing Star shmups, the Neo was king. I remember the days when the home console with $200+ carts was spoken of in hushed tones of awe among kids who had to be content with an NES.
The only down side was the proliferation of fighters on the Neo. Shit, I like SF2 style games as much as anyone, but the Neo could have used a bit more stuff like Metal Slug.
It's a shame what the classic game price bubble has done to Neo cart prices-fucking insane.
Please check Neo Drift Out, now forgotten 2d racing game with a helicopter view. It is a lot of fun.
>>1
The price was high because the Neo Geo games use a lot of memory, and memory was freakishly cheap back then.
my friends don't even know what a neo geo is. theyre really missing out on a great console. whats your guys favorite game on the system, mine is rondo of blood
Fuck I'm a retard rondo is on turbografx
God, Metal Slug AES is a five figure game now.
>>11
The market has effectively priced out everyone. I can't even see a die hard forking over that kind of money.
There's a Neo Geo cabinet at my local retro-game arcade. I play bubble bobble on it during the breaks I take from DDR Extreme. Some of the sound is messed up on it though, random cracks/hisses. Must be an emulator, especially so since you can select a game out of many other games.
I have a NEO GEO one slot MVS PCB in my room that I have hooked up to a Professional Trinitron via a JAMMA supergun, it's definitely fun to play Metal Slug X and most of the popular MVS games are still reasonably priced on Ebay, it's just the more obscure and niche titles that are pricy on the MVS. Of course, if you don't want to spend too much on games, you could get that one cheap multicart.
>>11
>>12
Get an MVS circuit board or one of those MVS cartridge adaptors for your AES, then enjoy getting cool titles like Metal Slug series for between 50 and 100 USD.
If you don't mind long ass loading times, you could get a NEO GEO CD and enjoy cheaper games on CD format. Also you there's no lock out or region lock on the NG CD (or even the AES or MVS), so you can play imports and even "backups" on the CD console
Remember Theme Hospital? Well, recently some of the key guys behind that classic have made a spiritual successor by the name of Two Point Hospital, it's basically more Theme Hospital for the modern age. It's pretty fun and in my experience pretty well optimized.
Meaty Boner.
The gameplay itself actually sucked (really basic-ass platformer with clunky combat) but it was hilarious.
I played peasant's quest a lot
Nightmare On Elm Street was so fucking scary as a kid back in the 2000s!
Flash still works for me.
>>5
I'm guessing it's like Windows XP, if you still have it it's not going to go away, just not get updated any more?
There's a simple hexedit to remove the killswitch in newer versions. The bigger issue is finding browsers with proper plugin support.
No I'm using Windows 10 and it actually stopped working a week after i posted that reply to the thread.
Bush Shoot-Out was fun
Though it's a shockwave game and not a flash game, I did like the Cartoon cartoon resort series and Scooby Doo Hollywood Horror 2 parter which uses a similar engine.
Hello there,
I come to you in one of the darkest hours in my entire life to seek advice and aid from generous wise Anonymous gamers:
I completely fail on installing Tsukihime.
Please tell me what the hell i am doing wrong.
INSTALLATION OF THE ORIGINAL GAME COMPLETE
>>3
I'm not spending that much money on animu gaems. I need that money for booze and drugs.
Working download link pl0x.
Just rename the installation directory, then run the patch. Since the directory is named in Japanese, it creates some sort of conflict when applying the patch(where it looks for arc.sar). Hope this helps.
Um, when I try to open to mount the IMG file with daemon tools, I don't get another window or anything, wtf?
Um, when I try to open to mount the IMG file with daemon tools, I don't get another window or anything, wtf?
I don't belong here.
But seriously, this is the best thread I have found even vaugely related to this game.
Just... look.
Sorry, the E-mail above is wrong, I wasn't paying attention.
Hey OP I’m playing it right now. Simply mount it with daemon tools, install it, drop the English patch into the tsukihime folder or use the installer, change your system locale to Japanese (this is probably where you are fucking up) and boom should be playable
You guys realize OP needed help 10 years ago and is either dead, grown up, or simply not interested in the game anymore? Any replied will not be read by the OP. I would bet every single amount of currency on Earth. >>37
This is one of the best Thread I've read.
cut off your penis
if you don't have one you must find someone to contribute one as sacrifice
No more heroes
I like how its a satire on "EPIC" plots in general not just games.
But I still consider Killer7 as a better game despite the change from its original script . Cant wait for
Flower, Sun and Rain in October so I can get some sort of understanding of his Kill the Past series.
I beat Gex 64: Enter the Gecko. 100%. All remotes. The game sucks, but it holds a special place in my heart for nostalgic reasons. I owned it on the PC and rented it on the 64 a lot as a kid, because for whatever reason I didn't care that the game was on two platforms. The game really sucks. Don't play it. But if you like good bad games, it's a good bad game. The PC version is better, cutscenes and voiceacting wise, and there were a decent number of levels cut from the N64 version. I'd like to track it down and play it on my new windows 98 PC i'm building. But I can't find any copies of a physical disk anywhere in the entire world. I wonder what happened to my disk as a child? Where does this stuff go? How did I lose it? At what point in my life did I stop caring about the wise cracking gecko? At what point did I forget he existed? And why did I remember that I forgot he existed?
>>296,297 I can respect this. I've been wanting to try DOS Mega Man for a while.
Industrial Killers, a weird-ass FPS that was apparently built as a demo to showcase Pie In The Sky's 3D game creation system. Took me several tries to get the hang of it as the starting level is decidedly newbie unfriendly (it's not hard to miss out on the machine gun and if you do that's pretty much a death sentence).
The engine has some interesting/promising features it seems like, stuff you wouldn't find in Doom even though some other aspects of the engine are more primitive than that (most annoyingly, no control remapping). The game doesn't make the best use of them though and has a certain nonsensical quality to it which I have mixed feelings about. The ending is also bizarre and made me wonder if I'd done something wrong somewhere along the way, and the game as a whole was pretty short.
Pass unless you have a fetish for weird and lesser-known 2.5D games like I do.
>>298
If you want to try them, you might like to be aware of this:
https://github.com/bbbradsmith/mmpatch
Though, disclaimer, I haven't tried it, I just used my crusty 16Mhz 286 which is about the level of machine they were designed for.
Marathoned Commander Keen, including the fan-made third trilogy which I'd never played before. They're pretty well done, although 7 may be the weakest one in so far as it's the one where it's easiest to see what old enemies were skinned over to make the new ones.
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Duke Nukem 2. Beat it for the first time after only having ever played the shareware episode and a little bit of episode 2. Played on easy mode this time though as the item and enemy placement tends to be more than a little trollish.
I'm still inclined to say the original Duke "Nukum" was more fun despite the sequel's added glitz and gimmicks.
I've finished beating Borderlands 2!
Just finished Pikmin 1 on the GameCube. Really great game, loved micromanaging all the Pikmin to do different tasks at the same time. Loved planning routes and figuring everything out. Though the game itself was a little on the short side. I'm looking forward to trying Pikmin 2 next once I get some free time.
I 100%'d Celeste. Took 50 hours. It was really fun. I really enjoyed the game.
Beat Black Mesa. Although it looks just slightly too modern for the engine (it's not quite "HL1 with HL2 graphics" but rather "HL1 with modern graphics), and it diverges from the original in some parts, it's still a very high-quality reinterpretation of the original game.
>>306
I quite liked BMS but nu-Xen dragged on for way too long. Doesn't really feel as creepy as the original either.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2TMs2E6cms4
Thoughts on the first trailer?
I personally dislike the overall changes in the art department.
Agreed. Some games from the '00s (mainly call of duty ripoffs) had shitty monochrome filters for no good reason. Demon's Souls wasn't one of them.
Making it colorful destroys the atmosphere. A lot of the enemy designs are more generic now too.
>A lot of the enemy designs are more generic now too.
Frankly speaking, the Flamelurker and the Dragon God looked ridiculous in that trailer.
The game will be released soon and every new piece of shared info about it doesn't sound very good to me.
The game is out and I finally understand why they didn't show much of the game's new artistic direction before shipping the game.
In my opinion some of the new redesigns are straight up embarrassing e.g Fat Officials.
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Bluepoint Games' Demon's Souls remake is the beast reason to get a PS5 right now.
Since this board is slower than my autistic cousin, I thought we could post our thoughts about upcoming things in gaming and then come back awhile afterwards to reflect on how it actually turned out.
The two biggest things I can think of right now is the ps5 and Xbox series X|S. Will they be shit? Who knows. maybe they will make fun video games again. A new generation means new possibilities right?
>>8
There is also Superhot VR, which is quite an enjoable game from what i've played, and it makes you feel like you're in that one scene from the Matrix where Neo dodges bullets, but constantly
>>9
Superhots gameplay is pretty nice but its a shame that it feels like 75% of the game is anything but gameplay.
>>2
Your first scenario has been happening for the past decade and probably longer before then. Look at how many buggy and bad releases have been dropped, but still got purchased. Games don't need to be fun to sell anymore. Battlefront 2015 was so hyped up despite everyone knowing that EA is a shit company which pumps out garbage.
There is a wider problem in modern vidya though which is the fact that a lot of games are being dumbed down. Fallout 4 was an inferior product in every aspect but graphics (which don't fit the style well, but are better) and gunplay (which is terrible beyond low levels), and depends more on mods than previous Bethesda/Fallout games. Civilisation VI was so dumbed down from Civilisation V which already got rid of a lot of mechanics but is still an in-depth game if you play mutiplayer or mod it. SSBB was a worse game than SSBM even if played as chaotic as possible. There is a reason people still play Mario 64, TF2, SSBM, or SF3s. Those games are simply better than a lot of their competitions.
A lot of games are dumbed down to be easier for new players to play, but a lot of games are popular because they are hard or complex. Even casuals who aren't going to get gud and learn all of the advanced techniques are going to be attracted to a game with a higher skill ceiling because it gives them a better chance to get good at the game, or gives it more replayability.
SFIV died when SFV came out, Sm4sh died when Ultimate came out, and Civ6 only beat Civ5 in players years after its release. New games are good for a series since they bring new things, but a lot of games just aren't as good nowadays.
video games are dead.
>>12
more like hideously undead, but I feel ya
Well so far the new generation hasn't been all that interesting. The xbox literally doesn't have any exclusives yet and the main selling point of Halo Infinite got pushed back. I'm expecting that to be utter trash, I didn't like any of the 343 games so I don't have high hopes. I also just really really really hate the open world trend. They are never engaging because they are always so empty and they are almost always bland. I'm worried about Elden Ring which is rumored to be open world.
I haven't personally been interested in the PS5 offerings either so there is nothing really to say there.
For games I'm interested in, I'm looking forward to the Mass Effect remaster. I wonder how much they will change or will they add any cut content? Don't know how I feel about the recently announced Mass Effect 4 either, especially with current Bioware and how bad Anthem was.
I'm interested just to see how Starfield and Elder Scrolls 6 turn out. I hated Fallout 4 and 76 so I really don't know what's going on with them. But mods might make it worth a pirate at some point.
Also I'm really disappointed in current VR, there are no good games with lasting appeal and I'm thinking of selling my current headset. I predict that there still won't be any AAA VR games for the next 5-10 years as it's still quite expensive and I think a lot of people are waiting for wireless headsets for it to take off. And no, I will not buy a Facebook device.
>>14
Can't believe I forgot to mention Cyberpunk 2077, it was an utter let down and a buggy mess at release. I suspected it would be disappointing when they had barely shown anything about a month before release and how many times it was pushed back when it was that close to releasing.
Prediction? They will patch the most prevalent bugs and get the consoles to good performance but they won't do much past that. I can't see them patching in different AI or something for cops. They will probably just make some free DLC to make up for it and that's it.
>>15
You're way too focused on this first entry in the franchise.
If they can't fix that mess of a game and DLCs are not attracting enough for their playerbase to pardon them then the developers will take the type of drastic measures that will leave the average mainstream player thinking that maybe releasing a fraud game is not too bad if eventually they're ''treated'' to what CDPR will ''gift'' them.
in the future of gaming you'll be able to play as a heron and invade kitchens
Will buying a Wii-U help me sleep with teenage girls?
I remember when I was sixteen I went over to a girls house under the pretense of playing Mario Party and then I fucked her.
So...does that still happen? Which of these will help me? http://www.listnerd.com/list/best-mario-games I just know chicks get fuckin wet for Mario
Seconding SM64. I made her panties drop* in 0.5x A button presses.
*in a parallel universe
>>19
That doesn't make sense though. There are no objects in parallel universes or M64. How could she have panties to drop?
>>1
I remember I once had a date witha a girl and took her to a semi-dungeon flat to play Kirby´s adventure. In my head, I tought that the fact that you can share food mouth-to-mouth in cooperaitve mode was enticing. It wasn't, the moment the kirbys pased the food, ther was an awkward silence.
She asked to stop dating after that.
So, don't use kirby games.
I get mad that most Mario games don’t have toilets. I search all over. Completely immersion breaking to play a game about a plumber that doesn’t have a single toilet. I simply cannot believe that Mario is a plumber, ruining the entire Mario series.
The Secret Chronicles of Dr. M
>>24
He can traverse my pipe if you know what I mean
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