http://www.techcrunch.com/2006/10/09/google-has-acquired-youtube/
Seems like a perfect match. Google is the best company they could've sold out to.
working for free is for cucks.
youtube now marks some videos as 18+ rather than deleting them sometimes. But they still delete vids if they are too 18+. And the way they mark those is very random, like, what is 18+ about this video? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Yegm2IyiaoE And it requires you to provide your real id if you want to watch those, at least in some countries, which you shouldn't do, ever.
there are still not shit people on youtube, but they are kinda buried down, you need to know where to look.
videos are kinda expensive to store and transmit, we should go back to videogames and forums and such, those are more space efficient.
>>19
Until a year or two ago you could bypass the age restriction by changing the link to embedded (or just use yt-dlp, mpv…). Now it's a hard wall requiring log in. In many countries this requires phone numbers, credit cards, documents. Fuck that. Getting your video age restricted nowadays means the video is fucking dead. (Not even because people care about privacy, but simply because a huge chunk of users are kids)
I if ever do a YouTube channel it won't be on YouTube at all. I would unironically do this these days:
>Google is the best company they could've sold out to.
Goddamn, this might be the most poorly-aged post I've ever seen. Ouch.
>>21
remember that in the ancient past, google was pretty well regarded as a company that cared about transparency and the internet as a whole
kinda like valve is now for gaming
>>23
They ditched the "don't be evil" motto after not too many years.
>>24
I clearly understood the path that Google was taking after they decided to implement fuckery on YouTube in 2007. That was when I started to "break away" from that bullshit company.
>>21
No one really could predict that the internet would turn into the way it is with social media giants consuming everything.
>>25
I vaguely remember around 2009-2010 or so, YouTube wanted to institute a no swearing policy on all uploaded videos, needless to say, this didn't go over well, and they ended up dialing that back after so many complained about it. Yeah, it started going bad not too long after Google bought them.
>>26
I had my reservations about how the (then-new) trends and developments were where the web as a whole was "centralizing" and most traffic was feeding into just a few giant sites. Most people didn't care since things became a lot more convenient from the much more fragmented days of the 90s when you needed three different media players installed in order to view any videos and audio files you might have come across. I wish things would become fragmented like that again, although I don't miss all the extra software and plugins that were needed.
Worst timeline ever.
It seems like the web is getting harder to use.
Or maybe I'm just getting older.
I am not adapting well to the future at all.
>>25
dude
you do not have a fucking idead of how much i hate this shit
really
i hate too much
In the early 2000s, dozens of academic math websites were made featuring Java applets with interactive geometry.
Now, nearly none are left and Java applets are long deprecated. There's still some similar sites and demonstrations but few are ever as comprehensive as those old sites (and considering the current state of the web, a pain to find). Also, Java applets and Flash somehow lagged considerably less than modern webshit attempts at the same.
It used to be that I could go online and spend hours discovering countless cool sites on whatever topics I could imagine. Now it's all buried in bot-ran blogs all copying from each other. Or is it that people no longer make cool websites? Most cool webpages I run into now are hosted on github, most cool articles on some large platform. Most people I know don't use the web outside of youtube, wikipedia, and social media apps. The web just isn't as fun these days.
>Now it's all buried in bot-ran blogs all copying from each other.
You need to use a lot of +"query" -"query" modifiers to find the buried stuff.
>Or is it that people no longer make cool websites?
Depends on what you consider cool. I find that more interesting sites are usually spread by word of mouth. Here's a couple link directories to check out:
https://peelopaalu.neocities.org/
https://kaisernet.org/links.htm
https://sundee.neocities.org/links/
Some alternate search engines that mainly cover buried sites:
>You need to use a lot of +"query" -"query" modifiers to find the buried stuff.
I find that Google has this habit of returning no results at all, or barely anything, for searches that make extensive use of +"query" -"query" modifiers even where a modifier-less version of that same search returns results that should match the modifiers. Or, on rarer occasions, of outright ignoring quotation marks or other operators for certain searches and shitting out a page of SEO AI-spam regardless.
>Here's a couple link directories to check out:
I am well aware of those link directories, and a number of others. Peelopaalu plenty of nice links in it.
The problem with these small "word of mouth" link directories is that they're usually a list of "nostalgic" webpages, old personal sites, and a bunch of the site owner's personal interests. They're not comprehensive and they're rarely useful for finding anything specific. I kind of wish there was a modern version of the old Yahoo link directory. Or for search engines to stop sucking again.
People linking to each other is a nice development though. With how most sites are now, you'd think everyone forgot the web is for hypertext.
>>34
Regarding the search modifiers, I've also noticed they're not always working nowadays. In some cases you can use a different engine that is based on another to make it work, for example using goo instead of bing.
The novelty factor of the web has long since diminished so of course it's going to be harder to find sites like that. Interacting with your site visitors encouraged personal sites, but the lack of visitors, the poor conduct of the average user and the spambot armies of today make it less attractive. They do still exist, but the greater signal to noise ratio and poorly configured search engine algorithms make it harder to come across them.
Speaking of the link directories, why hasn't anyone made a wiki style link directory that anyone can contribute to? Perhaps it already exists but a quick search gave me nothing worthwhile.
i see no problem, op.
i can still browse this site on my iPhone 17 XXR Pro Max Ultra
Tonight I'm doing a play through of the albums by the Aquabats.
They released a new album , Kooky Spooky.
Currently 2 songs in and it's halfway good.
I listen to Forbidden Memories soundtrack as I browse the web like I'm in a constant battle and struggle with my own personal sanity as I fight from my addictive habits such as compulsory masturbating once every single hour on the hour.
>>18
Perhaps for you?
https://thup.work/miniup/?mode=dl&id=13991
Cosmic Invention - Cosmorama
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d3rCpbvAXcU
Dr. Jones - Aqua
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9juUKggexbY
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ExDCRdronq4
Synth-pop Electro Gothic Wave 2
death grips
Do people still listen to vaporwave?
I listen to bubblegum pop and scratch the dead skin from my balls while headbanging.
https://youtu.be/rhlXDlNp3bA
it's fun to have fun
hot jazz of course
look at this list I made
http://pastebin.com/HNp6NuSA
It looks like 420chan is dead now, after the FBI raided Kirtaner on Aug 31st
bun...
Saw this in a fucking promoted Twitter ad of all places, probably because I only use Twitter to follow Japanese porn artists.
Consequentially it seems to be filled with normies but the concept is unique.
>>263
seems interesting, for people of all languages to communicate is the gimmick i guess
>>265
Agreed. Hate to see another chan go down but Kirtaner earned it.
I miss 420chan (;___;)
/azu/ will most likely be dying soon, but luckily it was archived.
https://ib.axypb.net/azu/res/6787.html#6799
https://axypb.logwarehouse.net/
I once uploaded Kareha onto a server I was running from home, purely just to test the software and study the code. I didn't advertise the board to anybody, and only made three test threads. Amazingly, after having forgotten about the board, and coming back a year later, I found it full of spam and links.
Everybody knows about textboard spam, wakaba's /soc/ board was removed after being spammed to oblivion, the site that wrote the original gazouBBS (futaba's sourcecode) script's demonstration boards were also full of spam comments written in English, so on, we've all seen it.
Where is it actually coming from though? Has anybody ever gone down the rabbithole of internet spam and bots? How do they find no-name sites that nobody visits? What is their end goal? Who actually runs these bots? Is anybody even running these bots or have they been on autopilot for decades? Is there a network of spammers? What is your experience with spam?
Within the past three years or so, "scambaiting" has become a popular genre of youtube and twitch content, with people investigating tech support scammers and robotcallers and whatnot, but I feel like nobody really cares about the rabbithole of people spamming on websites, when it is just as vast and fascinating.
This thread reminds me of people who begin with an interest in a group of conspiracy theorist believers (e.g. Flat Earthers) and in their journey to understand the thought process of their subjects, they gradually develop a bizarre fascination and end up becoming the very thing they initially ridiculed.
If anyone here ends up evolving into a BBS spam bot manager and/or BBS spam bot, please detail your experiences in this thread.
>>16
You can do what multichan does and use image links to source embedded images. Best of both worlds. You get images but can outsource the liability.
>>25
If you do that don't forget to limit it to specific hosts only so people don't embed their own trackers to datamine users.
people keep posting cpz on my favorite altchan
is it feds or cloudflare
i think its just pedos
The quality varies a lot, this new guy seems to have figured out how to use the name/link fields AND html formatting to spam his shoe (?) websites.
30get
>>28
That spam bot has been around for a long while now. I'm guessing it was originally made to seek out blog comment sections, I've seen similar spam on those and those also have name/email fields and either HTML or BBCode formatting. Actually, just supporting BBCode is enough to summon a swarm of spambots.
>>1
Very interesting, certainly. In my opinion it must be spam bot farms, some of which left running for decades (have you noticed Usenet spam has not evolved from the typical garbage links?), or even paid Indian spammers
>>27
Feds seek imageboards out to post CP in them to get them shut down. If the janitors/moderators are proactive removing the spam, the feds observe when the janitors/moderators are asleep to perform the spam again, or even, in the worst rumoured cases, actually become janitors and begin antagonizing the userbase to get them to abandon ship.
>>32
I have heard fed this glowie that, but do you have any proof or evidence for this?
Kind of a funny development.
I think that as the Internet grew and became inseparable from IRL, anonymous boards have taken on a highly specific role in the gentrified Cyberspace.
the pendulum has left the conservative right and moved to the "progressive: (conservative) left
Social media censorship makes people with these views want to go to messageboards which support free speech
The grasping for last remaining straws of meaning as they're escaping our reality is getting desperate. Will Evolian cosmology, being batshit insane notwithstanding, be vindicated at last?
It's not just the evangelical boomerfaggots violently thrust on the chans by qanon facebook LARPs, you know. Neo-paganism, neo-barbarism, neo-spartanism, neo-antiquity are all the rage now on tiktok, though the kids may not even realize it. Will we live to see neo-rome arising from the ashes of that?
At the end of the classical age we realized that our commitments and norms are not written into nature or the mind of God but just our way of doing things, and we can change them if we want to. This led to the absolute freedom and terror of the French revolution and Enlightenment as human-kind attempted to redesign itself from the ground up, trying to use "reason" to structure society. But then it was found that reason was just as ungrouded and arbitrary as anything else and only contained the basic idea of self-legislation without any direction for that self-legislation to take. Thus we got stuck in our current era, half of the people don't believe in anything but the rule of self-legislation, the rule of not accepting any rule beyond themselves, and half the people believe in unrelenting dogmatism and inner conviction in an attempt to stave off the reality of freedom, that no one can hold us to our commitments but us. Thus, the two political persuasions currently in existence.
i think it is because, over the last 30 years or so, we have always despised "normal people". currently, normal people are universally preaching for things like gender non-binaryism, transgender encouragement, anti-racism (minority fetishism?), child drag events, open borders, etc. for some reason.
Lots of answers in this thread. Unfortunately, they're all wrong.
>>21
I hope I get to neo-burn neo-witches at the neo-stake
I'm a Marxist anyway, so I fall outside the reactionary pole.
>>22
Interesting post.
>Thus we got stuck in our current era, half of the people don't believe in anything but the rule of self-legislation, the rule of not accepting any rule beyond themselves, and half the people believe in unrelenting dogmatism and inner conviction in an attempt to stave off the reality of freedom, that no one can hold us to our commitments but us.
>the reality of freedom, that no one can hold us to our commitments but us.
I think this is a great line.
Right-left politics seem to have become a disliked topic on imageboards and even on really cancerous I haven't seen a lot of /pol/-type posters in a while.
As for religion, it helps a isolated people cope, they like the aesthetics or they're mentally ill. People who still use imageboards tend to fall into these groups
What do you know about it?
Whenever I was walking around I'd use a .jar application on my phone to use very little 2G data and browse stuff like FML and other ancient shit sites for a very low cost.
>>3
Support is ending soon. I think it'll either be this year or next year.
Undergoing maintenance, back soon ;)
>>4
care to share the deeplore on these sites? how old are they?
>>10
~2009ish. The initial lore of mini/tiny et al is unceremonious, as it was their spat with Ano**alk's mentally unstable sysop's shenanigans spammed all over /b/ constantly that gave all those "tiny" boards visibility.
In spite of her rocky start, tinychan grew to be somewhat liked over the years, as she came to the rescue of many dying text boards - https://dis.tinychan.net. The tinychan frontpage still acting as a convenient sinkhole for low quality posters to this day.
** - the presence of filters even on here is a testament to the menace those boards used to be.
I'd love to see archives of promotional i-mode websites for anime, or anime posters with i-mode links/its logo.
Actually, does anybody know where to find such posters? I've checked the boorus, but there's no good tag for it (at least, not one I'm familiar with).
Dwarf Fortress' forum has a WAP mode, and by extension, all SMF-based forums, at least up to 2.0.13.
http://www.bay12forums.com/smf/index.php?wap2 (there isn't an https version? interesting)
A thread on 4chan on productivity and addiction led to a discussion about Fear Of Missing Out in relation to online conversations, that due to its fast-moving (and in the case of *chans, temporary) it leads to a need to have your eyes on the screen and be glued there waiting for a response, because if you don't get in now you'll miss your chance.
This led me to thinking about how BBSs would have things like QWK and REP files so that you can pull down new comments while you upload your own comments and replies in one step, and can then disconnect. Then to wondering about a format where there would only be weekly "mail drops" where only messages sent before a certain day would get in on that drop.
I suppose the question is, do you think there's a place for a "slower" style of online discourse to take the place (only among certain people, certainly not the majority) of the faster, and FOMO-reliant, style that dominates the web now?
>QWK and REP
wat?
dude the main reason I'm here is because here threads don't get flushed into nothingness in seconds, but stay for years instead.
Usenet groups are superior version of the same thing, they still exist, and no one cares.
Technologically it is a solved problem. It's not very helpful against addiction (one can just click send and receive more often) or large volume of messages (spam killed usenet).
I have already seen software restraints to emulate the 90s - "you may only send messages once a day" experimental offline-first-lifestyle mailing client at hackernews. If that can do any good is anyone's guess.
>>4
The thing is while I'm using older technology as an example, I'm also not really wanting to "emulate the 90's" beyond just seeing if it is possible to have a more "offline" lifestyle without just using modern social media (which is really what the issue is) less, but rather thinking about either a new paradigm, or even resurrecting an old one.
The actual issue of connection now is solved, but it solved, but in solving it we have created new issues that, it seems to me, has a far more negative effect on people than the flaws of the past, that being that the internet is slow.
I guess what it all really comes down to is that I am just questioning the assumptions that we make about online conversion and whether we should change how we rate it and what standards we apply to it. Why do we call a community with less than a thousand people "dead"? Why do we call a message speed such that you can check once a week, "slow"? What is actually wrong with either of these things if you go to do other things.
It seems that so many people are ready to just go for total abstinence of the technology (NoSurf) rather than a reconsideration of standards.
These are good questions. A small board does not allow for endless doomscrolling and does nothing for the addicted. People who will try to replace a big board with a small one will become discontent. Slow = "the dopamine comes slower than before".
Therefore, I can see why one will try to quit cold turkey. It's a reasonable thing to try when all else fails.
Usenet groups. Yes the absurdly large group tree is a burden and does no good. Some slashdot people had similar idea as you did and picked one already existing group and posted or crossposted all their tech-related messages into it, as an attempt to revive usenet. So it has been tried at least once in relatively recent times (2015? 2018?)
>>5 Found it. Pony "a messenger for mindful correspondence".
>Pony "a messenger for mindful correspondence"
I looked in to it a bit, and while it seems like a good idea, it being an app somewhat distances itself from its own mission statement. Yes, the app itself will only deliver messages once a day, but it requires the device that you (mostly) carry with you constantly. Apparently the creator didn't want to just make it e-mail, but I really don't see why, and the reasons they gave for not don't really make much sense unless the reason is purely that he wanted to make money out of it (which he actually admitted in an interview).
>1st Paragraph
This is a good point, but I'm talking about more is that it's more an issue of standards, and it could even be argued that there's elements of surrogacy involved, where people are getting the social interaction online that they don't get in the real world. It's true that for the addicted the "slow net" would either be too little of "a hit" or even that they would use the "slow net" in addition to the "fast net," but I'm more coming at it from a different angle, that is the realigning of what we expect and want from the "digital life."
>I have already seen software restraints to emulate the 90s - "you may only send messages once a day" experimental offline-first-lifestyle mailing client at hackernews. If that can do any good is anyone's guess.
I prefer the maildrop idea. Stallman replies to his emails in this manner. He downloads email through a gateway, reads and replies to them while offline, processing attached media in the way it's possible for him to do so.
When he connects, he uploads it all as a batch.
I believe he has a schedule, but if not then he does it whenever, unlike the maildrop which often has a set schedule of 1 week.
how old is the enternet?
>The ARPAnet, the predecessor of the Internet, was born in November 1969, making the Internet 50 years old. In January 1983, ARPAnet shifted to the TCP/IP protocol, which to this date powers the modern Internet.
There needs to be an effort to revive iichan and bring back the feeling and culture of the glory days of imageboards!
Let's try on /img/ - I will do my best to rebuild the vibe
people are stupid, they only use facebook and twitter and shitty mind-controlling socials for zombies, we can't revive the good ol' culture of imageboards
people are stupid, they like simple and addicting mind-controlling cringe social networks like facebook and twitter, we can't take back the good ol' imageboard culture
:(((((
It's up to us the people. Someone among us must carry the torch
I miss iichan every time I browse. I don't miss having to deal with all the CP posting, though. I think I still have a few of the iichan regulars on my steam friends list.
You can bring back the place but you can't bring back the time.
>>9
This is the truth. Sadly, this is what it has come to. As well as how >>7 put it, "That era is over". The era of imageboards/textboards have been coming to a close or at least majorly dying down. Most of the people who originally was parts of various communities spread across the web have moved on or are struggling to make ends meat let alone having the time to spare to leisurely hang out online as they once did in the past. The only few that have stuck around for as long as the have either have no lives outside of their desktop computers or just mostly avoid other parts of the web clinging to a familiarity that they refuse to let go. Believe, I understand fully. I'm one of those who refuse to let it go despite all of it's vain. I'm not worried about being on a website with thousands of people. Just a small place that's active with a handful is honestly enough to keep me around checking from time to time.
forget iichan somebody should revive 2channel.
sure nobody would use it but fuck it.