Internet Addicts Anonymous @ 4-ch

Internet Addicts Anonymous @ 4-ch

Do you have an addiction to the Internet? Do you spend all day looking at slashdot, wikipedia, porn or posting in your Livejournal, or are you a friend or family member of someone who is?

Internet addicts anonymous provides counselling, trolling, flames and utter internet stupidity for those who require the services, generously provided by 4-ch in association with the DQN community.
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1: Google buys YouTube. (28) 2: Decreasing usability on the web (37) 3: What music do you listen to when you websurf? (28) 4: I'm an imageboard and online communities otaku (269) 5: [SPAM] Where does bot spam come from? [INQUIRY] [NET DETECTIVE] (33) 6: Why are imageboards filled with so many religious fanatics and conservatives these days? (28) 7: Pre-smartphone mobile web (wap, i-mode, etc) (14) 8: FOMO and Online Discourse (9) 9: how old is the enternet? (3) 10: BRING BACK IICHAN (11) 11: 711chan returns from the dead (2) 12: New Gikopoi server dropped (12) 13: Goodbye Sageru.org (4) 14: Discussing on the net (5) 15: Goodbye world2ch! (55) 16: Anyone willing to part with a Nevada-tan hoodie? (54) 17: I want to now anothers text boards (7) 18: Junior, let's find VIP, DQN or IAA on your ID [PART III] (609) 19: channel4 laughs at other boards (7) 20: Pros and cons of anonymity (30) 21: Zona hispana (2) 22: Gikopoi thread! (25) 23: If anonymous forums are so great (52) 24: The end of Chris (22) 25: 4chan was never good (19) 26: POV: It's 2006 and you spelled Google wrong accidentally (FIXED) (6) 27: Text Paradise (12) 28: [TRUE ANON] Onion Chan! [ZOMG] (212) 29: Imageboard and textboard otaku needed (4) 30: what is the best kareha theme? (6) 31: [Single Points of Failure] Cloudflare Outage Thread [Bunker] (3) 32: Ok (3) 33: [SECRET] Attemptimg to find an old hidden board [HELP][ASSISTANCE REQUIRED] (3) 34: German imageboard Krautchan dies on 13.03.2018 (38) 35: Horrible, horrible websites (236) 36: twitter sucks (36) 37: Ongoing war in Japan (4) 38: 4-ch was removed from the wikipedia article on textboards (34) 39: Do you lurk any usenet groups? (18) 40: ITT giving sites back to your fellow netheads (5)

Google buys YouTube. (28)

1 Name: 404 - Name Not Found : 2006-10-10 03:35 ID:r8mZ5r6E This thread was merged from the former /net/ board. You can view the archive here.

http://www.techcrunch.com/2006/10/09/google-has-acquired-youtube/

Seems like a perfect match. Google is the best company they could've sold out to.

19 Name: 403 - Name Forbidden : 2022-03-20 03:50 ID:Heaven

working for free is for cucks.

youtube now marks some videos as 18+ rather than deleting them sometimes. But they still delete vids if they are too 18+. And the way they mark those is very random, like, what is 18+ about this video? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Yegm2IyiaoE And it requires you to provide your real id if you want to watch those, at least in some countries, which you shouldn't do, ever.

there are still not shit people on youtube, but they are kinda buried down, you need to know where to look.

videos are kinda expensive to store and transmit, we should go back to videogames and forums and such, those are more space efficient.

20 Name: 408 - Name Request Timeout : 2022-07-29 21:24 ID:FLY5AOha

>>19
Until a year or two ago you could bypass the age restriction by changing the link to embedded (or just use yt-dlp, mpv…). Now it's a hard wall requiring log in. In many countries this requires phone numbers, credit cards, documents. Fuck that. Getting your video age restricted nowadays means the video is fucking dead. (Not even because people care about privacy, but simply because a huge chunk of users are kids)

I if ever do a YouTube channel it won't be on YouTube at all. I would unironically do this these days:

  • Put the list of released videos on a Tor or Lokinet website. (Subscribing done with RSS)
  • Host the video files on IPFS or BitTorrent. (Both are video-streamable BTW. No need to wait for a download to complete)
  • Monetize with Monero (all other cryptocurrencies are actually not private or anonymous) donations and by having a Patreon type section on the site, not to mention sponsorships just like already on YT. (Patreon has been banning a lot of people too over all sorts of really dumb bullshit, and I'm still in awe of how these people insist on not getting into a self hosted cryptocurrency solution and instead insist on staying victimized by chasing an alternative platform which is exact same as Patreon and will end up doing the exact same thing to them all over again)

21 Name: 405 - Name Not Allowed : 2022-07-31 22:14 ID:Heaven

>>1

>Google is the best company they could've sold out to.

Goddamn, this might be the most poorly-aged post I've ever seen. Ouch.

22 Name: 403 - Name Forbidden : 2022-08-07 13:02 ID:Ly9O7Fbn

>>20
you can bypass it with scripts

23 Name: 401 - Unauthorized Name : 2022-09-12 20:22 ID:UVrez6eA

>>21
remember that in the ancient past, google was pretty well regarded as a company that cared about transparency and the internet as a whole
kinda like valve is now for gaming

24 Name: 401 - Unauthorized Name : 2023-02-22 11:20 ID:EwjKkskC

>>23
They ditched the "don't be evil" motto after not too many years.

25 Name: 403 - Name Forbidden : 2023-02-23 10:43 ID:3/A7TOSS

>>24
I clearly understood the path that Google was taking after they decided to implement fuckery on YouTube in 2007. That was when I started to "break away" from that bullshit company.

26 Name: 415 - Unsupported Name Type : 2023-03-05 20:34 ID:3FhBQgKV

>>21
No one really could predict that the internet would turn into the way it is with social media giants consuming everything.

27 Name: 403 - Name Forbidden : 2023-03-17 15:18 ID:UYbXTOX0

>>25
I vaguely remember around 2009-2010 or so, YouTube wanted to institute a no swearing policy on all uploaded videos, needless to say, this didn't go over well, and they ended up dialing that back after so many complained about it. Yeah, it started going bad not too long after Google bought them.

>>26
I had my reservations about how the (then-new) trends and developments were where the web as a whole was "centralizing" and most traffic was feeding into just a few giant sites. Most people didn't care since things became a lot more convenient from the much more fragmented days of the 90s when you needed three different media players installed in order to view any videos and audio files you might have come across. I wish things would become fragmented like that again, although I don't miss all the extra software and plugins that were needed.

28 Name: 403 - Name Forbidden : 2023-03-18 08:34 ID:sOyPfPUO

Worst timeline ever.

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Decreasing usability on the web (37)

1 Name: 404 - Name Not Found : 2016-04-21 07:22 ID:ReD2ZvAk This thread was merged from the former /net/ board. You can view the archive here.

It seems like the web is getting harder to use.

Or maybe I'm just getting older.

  • I was using a search bar on a website. It had no "search" button ... it was just a text field. I tried hitting enter and nothing happened. The screen didn't change or anything. I finally reloaded and tried again and THEN my search actually returned results.
  • I was tabbing through a webpage, but the links were never highlighted or outlined to let me know that I was tabbed on them.
  • Webpages have become harder to read! I'm serious. There is something wrong with the new age typefaces. It's like someone decided to make a new font that inherited 3 X chromosomes so every character could be big, but skinny.

I am not adapting well to the future at all.

28 Name: 404 - Name Not Found : 2020-10-29 21:27 ID:BVL1KDho

>>19
UX is a cancer upon the world. I don't understand the point either, people in the mainsteam aren't gonna give that much more of a shit about the title being a different font and taking up half of the screen or the header resizing itself depending on the direction you scroll, so why not just give the actual content and keep things simple? I mean more often then not these sites are too ambitious in their UX and it becomes actively infuriating to work with. Wouldn't being a simple and direct news service be better at making viewers subconsciously prefer one site over the other? Isn't that why Yahoo Japan still holds its classic design?

29 Name: 404 - Name Not Found : 2020-11-05 11:08 ID:R6yJ1vZ+

>>25
dude
you do not have a fucking idead of how much i hate this shit
really
i hate too much

30 Post deleted.

31 Name: 404 - Name Not Found : 2020-11-07 22:02 ID:OVNBlGgT

>>30
dude
just stop

32 Name: 403 - Name Forbidden : 2023-02-22 08:41 ID:J7je0dTg

In the early 2000s, dozens of academic math websites were made featuring Java applets with interactive geometry.
Now, nearly none are left and Java applets are long deprecated. There's still some similar sites and demonstrations but few are ever as comprehensive as those old sites (and considering the current state of the web, a pain to find). Also, Java applets and Flash somehow lagged considerably less than modern webshit attempts at the same.

It used to be that I could go online and spend hours discovering countless cool sites on whatever topics I could imagine. Now it's all buried in bot-ran blogs all copying from each other. Or is it that people no longer make cool websites? Most cool webpages I run into now are hosted on github, most cool articles on some large platform. Most people I know don't use the web outside of youtube, wikipedia, and social media apps. The web just isn't as fun these days.

33 Name: 403 - Name Forbidden : 2023-02-22 11:03 ID:hJNKjCc0

>>32

>Now it's all buried in bot-ran blogs all copying from each other.

You need to use a lot of +"query" -"query" modifiers to find the buried stuff.

>Or is it that people no longer make cool websites?

Depends on what you consider cool. I find that more interesting sites are usually spread by word of mouth. Here's a couple link directories to check out:
https://peelopaalu.neocities.org/
https://kaisernet.org/links.htm
https://sundee.neocities.org/links/

Some alternate search engines that mainly cover buried sites:

Post too long. Click to view the whole post or the thread page.

34 Name: 415 - Unsupported Name Type : 2023-03-07 09:12 ID:J7je0dTg

>>33

>You need to use a lot of +"query" -"query" modifiers to find the buried stuff.

I find that Google has this habit of returning no results at all, or barely anything, for searches that make extensive use of +"query" -"query" modifiers even where a modifier-less version of that same search returns results that should match the modifiers. Or, on rarer occasions, of outright ignoring quotation marks or other operators for certain searches and shitting out a page of SEO AI-spam regardless.

>Here's a couple link directories to check out:

I am well aware of those link directories, and a number of others. Peelopaalu plenty of nice links in it.
The problem with these small "word of mouth" link directories is that they're usually a list of "nostalgic" webpages, old personal sites, and a bunch of the site owner's personal interests. They're not comprehensive and they're rarely useful for finding anything specific. I kind of wish there was a modern version of the old Yahoo link directory. Or for search engines to stop sucking again.
People linking to each other is a nice development though. With how most sites are now, you'd think everyone forgot the web is for hypertext.

Post too long. Click to view the whole post or the thread page.

35 Name: 409 - Name Conflict : 2023-03-08 01:57 ID:hJNKjCc0

>>34
Regarding the search modifiers, I've also noticed they're not always working nowadays. In some cases you can use a different engine that is based on another to make it work, for example using goo instead of bing.

The novelty factor of the web has long since diminished so of course it's going to be harder to find sites like that. Interacting with your site visitors encouraged personal sites, but the lack of visitors, the poor conduct of the average user and the spambot armies of today make it less attractive. They do still exist, but the greater signal to noise ratio and poorly configured search engine algorithms make it harder to come across them.

Speaking of the link directories, why hasn't anyone made a wiki style link directory that anyone can contribute to? Perhaps it already exists but a quick search gave me nothing worthwhile.

36 Name: 405 - Name Not Allowed : 2023-03-10 21:56 ID:Heaven

>>35

>greater signal to noise ratio

*lower

37 Name: 406 - Name Not Acceptable : 2023-03-16 23:42 ID:Heaven

i see no problem, op.
i can still browse this site on my iPhone 17 XXR Pro Max Ultra

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What music do you listen to when you websurf? (28)

1 Name: 403 - Name Forbidden : 2022-10-11 16:54 ID:m84sFqgb

Tonight I'm doing a play through of the albums by the Aquabats.
They released a new album , Kooky Spooky.
Currently 2 songs in and it's halfway good.

19 Name: 403 - Name Forbidden : 2023-01-28 08:34 ID:ZJ90VQjV

I listen to Forbidden Memories soundtrack as I browse the web like I'm in a constant battle and struggle with my own personal sanity as I fight from my addictive habits such as compulsory masturbating once every single hour on the hour.

20 Name: 410 - Name Gone : 2023-01-28 21:56 ID:68i6n4EO

21 Name: 406 - Name Not Acceptable : 2023-02-01 02:17 ID:PTxyob6F

22 Name: 401 - Unauthorized Name : 2023-02-03 07:51 ID:WFOdvSkE

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ExDCRdronq4
Synth-pop Electro Gothic Wave 2

23 Name: 401 - Unauthorized Name : 2023-02-11 19:45 ID:O4h4fEuI

death grips

24 Name: 403 - Name Forbidden : 2023-02-12 09:55 ID:ZJ90VQjV

Do people still listen to vaporwave?

25 Name: 405 - Name Not Allowed : 2023-02-17 09:46 ID:ZJ90VQjV

I listen to bubblegum pop and scratch the dead skin from my balls while headbanging.

26 Name: 406 - Name Not Acceptable : 2023-02-24 04:27 ID:pfUMEqMU

https://youtu.be/rhlXDlNp3bA
it's fun to have fun

27 Name: 401 - Unauthorized Name : 2023-03-01 10:12 ID:Heaven

hot jazz of course

28 Name: 401 - Unauthorized Name : 2023-03-02 02:11 ID:A5nMQ/Ur

>>27

This is the only real web surfing music

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I'm an imageboard and online communities otaku (269)

1 Name: Anonymous Addict : 2015-08-11 22:53 ID:7mRWuRW3

look at this list I made
http://pastebin.com/HNp6NuSA

260 Name: 406 - Name Not Acceptable : 2022-06-17 13:25 ID:Heaven

>>259 Not that I know of... The wayback machine has a lot of threads with thumbnails; you could try rebuilding them from there ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

261 Name: 422 - Unprocessable Name : 2022-09-03 11:46 ID:2uHHiJ/m

It looks like 420chan is dead now, after the FBI raided Kirtaner on Aug 31st

262 Name: 408 - Name Request Timeout : 2022-09-04 06:21 ID:Dls8fRby

bun...

263 Name: 409 - Name Conflict : 2022-12-31 14:52 ID:WPGIXAJC

https://babeler.com/

Saw this in a fucking promoted Twitter ad of all places, probably because I only use Twitter to follow Japanese porn artists.

Consequentially it seems to be filled with normies but the concept is unique.

264 Name: 422 - Unprocessable Name : 2022-12-31 22:13 ID:7320XLq9

>>263
seems interesting, for people of all languages to communicate is the gimmick i guess

265 Name: 405 - Name Not Allowed : 2023-01-08 01:01 ID:kv5vQIx4

>>261
He deserved it. Vile rat...

266 Name: 408 - Name Request Timeout : 2023-01-09 00:08 ID:VohQPVoF

>>265
Agreed. Hate to see another chan go down but Kirtaner earned it.

267 Name: 410 - Name Gone : 2023-01-09 08:10 ID:aSAQxAKW

>>265
>>266
Absolutely he deserved it. Now all we need is a video of him getting assraped by a big buff negro and life can be all good again.

268 Name: 401 - Unauthorized Name : 2023-03-01 10:13 ID:Heaven

I miss 420chan (;___;)

269 Name: 403 - Name Forbidden : 2023-03-07 21:40 ID:Heaven

/azu/ will most likely be dying soon, but luckily it was archived.

https://ib.axypb.net/azu/res/6787.html#6799
https://axypb.logwarehouse.net/

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[SPAM] Where does bot spam come from? [INQUIRY] [NET DETECTIVE] (33)

1 Name: Anonymous Addict : 2021-01-07 20:09 ID:A2XHXRdb

I once uploaded Kareha onto a server I was running from home, purely just to test the software and study the code. I didn't advertise the board to anybody, and only made three test threads. Amazingly, after having forgotten about the board, and coming back a year later, I found it full of spam and links.

Everybody knows about textboard spam, wakaba's /soc/ board was removed after being spammed to oblivion, the site that wrote the original gazouBBS (futaba's sourcecode) script's demonstration boards were also full of spam comments written in English, so on, we've all seen it.

Where is it actually coming from though? Has anybody ever gone down the rabbithole of internet spam and bots? How do they find no-name sites that nobody visits? What is their end goal? Who actually runs these bots? Is anybody even running these bots or have they been on autopilot for decades? Is there a network of spammers? What is your experience with spam?

Within the past three years or so, "scambaiting" has become a popular genre of youtube and twitch content, with people investigating tech support scammers and robotcallers and whatnot, but I feel like nobody really cares about the rabbithole of people spamming on websites, when it is just as vast and fascinating.

24 Name: 422 - Unprocessable Name : 2022-07-25 12:06 ID:dHzt9cV9

This thread reminds me of people who begin with an interest in a group of conspiracy theorist believers (e.g. Flat Earthers) and in their journey to understand the thought process of their subjects, they gradually develop a bizarre fascination and end up becoming the very thing they initially ridiculed.

If anyone here ends up evolving into a BBS spam bot manager and/or BBS spam bot, please detail your experiences in this thread.

25 Name: 409 - Name Conflict : 2022-07-30 01:55 ID:DZxXfsV8

>>16
You can do what multichan does and use image links to source embedded images. Best of both worlds. You get images but can outsource the liability.

26 Name: 408 - Name Request Timeout : 2022-07-30 08:43 ID:Heaven

>>25
If you do that don't forget to limit it to specific hosts only so people don't embed their own trackers to datamine users.

27 Name: 422 - Unprocessable Name : 2022-08-23 04:42 ID:blVLru5i

people keep posting cpz on my favorite altchan
is it feds or cloudflare

i think its just pedos

28 Name: 403 - Name Forbidden : 2022-09-14 12:26 ID:qJtDLLAl

The quality varies a lot, this new guy seems to have figured out how to use the name/link fields AND html formatting to spam his shoe (?) websites.

29 Name: 403 - Name Forbidden : 2022-09-15 15:07 ID:M+fR2ryk

>>28
I think you meant hoe websites.

30 Name: 422 - Unprocessable Name : 2022-09-16 05:47 ID:Heaven

30get

31 Name: 422 - Unprocessable Name : 2022-09-20 02:03 ID:Heaven

>>28
That spam bot has been around for a long while now. I'm guessing it was originally made to seek out blog comment sections, I've seen similar spam on those and those also have name/email fields and either HTML or BBCode formatting. Actually, just supporting BBCode is enough to summon a swarm of spambots.

32 Name: 406 - Name Not Acceptable : 2023-01-08 01:33 ID:XHYVBWyG

>>1
Very interesting, certainly. In my opinion it must be spam bot farms, some of which left running for decades (have you noticed Usenet spam has not evolved from the typical garbage links?), or even paid Indian spammers
>>27
Feds seek imageboards out to post CP in them to get them shut down. If the janitors/moderators are proactive removing the spam, the feds observe when the janitors/moderators are asleep to perform the spam again, or even, in the worst rumoured cases, actually become janitors and begin antagonizing the userbase to get them to abandon ship.

33 Name: 422 - Unprocessable Name : 2023-03-17 09:50 ID:Heaven

>>32
I have heard fed this glowie that, but do you have any proof or evidence for this?

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Why are imageboards filled with so many religious fanatics and conservatives these days? (28)

1 Name: 403 - Name Forbidden : 2021-04-06 06:41 ID:djbQwVOH

Kind of a funny development.

19 Name: 422 - Unprocessable Name : 2022-10-15 21:47 ID:LV/Qm9/z

I think that as the Internet grew and became inseparable from IRL, anonymous boards have taken on a highly specific role in the gentrified Cyberspace.

20 Name: 409 - Name Conflict : 2022-10-24 17:46 ID:hrdADdJy

the pendulum has left the conservative right and moved to the "progressive: (conservative) left

Social media censorship makes people with these views want to go to messageboards which support free speech

21 Name: 410 - Name Gone : 2022-11-13 22:34 ID:SGzYXiN6

The grasping for last remaining straws of meaning as they're escaping our reality is getting desperate. Will Evolian cosmology, being batshit insane notwithstanding, be vindicated at last?

It's not just the evangelical boomerfaggots violently thrust on the chans by qanon facebook LARPs, you know. Neo-paganism, neo-barbarism, neo-spartanism, neo-antiquity are all the rage now on tiktok, though the kids may not even realize it. Will we live to see neo-rome arising from the ashes of that?

22 Name: 401 - Unauthorized Name : 2022-11-20 21:47 ID:frqwbRvu

At the end of the classical age we realized that our commitments and norms are not written into nature or the mind of God but just our way of doing things, and we can change them if we want to. This led to the absolute freedom and terror of the French revolution and Enlightenment as human-kind attempted to redesign itself from the ground up, trying to use "reason" to structure society. But then it was found that reason was just as ungrouded and arbitrary as anything else and only contained the basic idea of self-legislation without any direction for that self-legislation to take. Thus we got stuck in our current era, half of the people don't believe in anything but the rule of self-legislation, the rule of not accepting any rule beyond themselves, and half the people believe in unrelenting dogmatism and inner conviction in an attempt to stave off the reality of freedom, that no one can hold us to our commitments but us. Thus, the two political persuasions currently in existence.

23 Name: 415 - Unsupported Name Type : 2022-11-22 07:02 ID:2H1zxCyE

i think it is because, over the last 30 years or so, we have always despised "normal people". currently, normal people are universally preaching for things like gender non-binaryism, transgender encouragement, anti-racism (minority fetishism?), child drag events, open borders, etc. for some reason.

24 Name: 415 - Unsupported Name Type : 2022-11-27 10:07 ID:pID8mZ8F

Lots of answers in this thread. Unfortunately, they're all wrong.

25 Name: 403 - Name Forbidden : 2022-11-28 20:26 ID:hrdADdJy

>>21
I hope I get to neo-burn neo-witches at the neo-stake

26 Name: 410 - Name Gone : 2022-11-29 02:58 ID:m47LbKSX

I'm a Marxist anyway, so I fall outside the reactionary pole.

27 Name: 403 - Name Forbidden : 2023-01-08 01:12 ID:T+hi/GJM

>>22
Interesting post.

>Thus we got stuck in our current era, half of the people don't believe in anything but the rule of self-legislation, the rule of not accepting any rule beyond themselves, and half the people believe in unrelenting dogmatism and inner conviction in an attempt to stave off the reality of freedom, that no one can hold us to our commitments but us.
>the reality of freedom, that no one can hold us to our commitments but us.

I think this is a great line.

28 Name: 408 - Name Request Timeout : 2023-03-07 21:34 ID:Heaven

Right-left politics seem to have become a disliked topic on imageboards and even on really cancerous I haven't seen a lot of /pol/-type posters in a while.

As for religion, it helps a isolated people cope, they like the aesthetics or they're mentally ill. People who still use imageboards tend to fall into these groups

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Pre-smartphone mobile web (wap, i-mode, etc) (14)

1 Name: Anonymous Addict : 2020-11-29 09:49 ID:FFiW99bW

What do you know about it?

5 Name: 422 - Unprocessable Name : 2021-09-25 04:24 ID:PP8xpw2Z

Whenever I was walking around I'd use a .jar application on my phone to use very little 2G data and browse stuff like FML and other ancient shit sites for a very low cost.

6 Name: 409 - Name Conflict : 2021-09-29 08:33 ID:EYrX2d5F

>>3
Support is ending soon. I think it'll either be this year or next year.

7 Name: 403 - Name Forbidden : 2022-10-08 12:39 ID:xcVs18Iw

Anyone know some sites that are feature phone friendly (WAP/HTTP/240x320 displays)?

8 Name: 401 - Unauthorized Name : 2022-10-08 17:06 ID:Heaven

>>7
I was about to write something similar to >>5, but now I'm wondering if that was my post from last year. Unfortunately their wap/mobile site is down, but whatever it was all fake or low quality anyways.

>>2
403 Forbidden when opening boards.

9 Name: 405 - Name Not Allowed : 2022-10-08 18:17 ID:Heaven

Undergoing maintenance, back soon ;)

10 Name: 410 - Name Gone : 2022-10-11 00:28 ID:N52PmPEM

>>4
care to share the deeplore on these sites? how old are they?

11 Name: 401 - Unauthorized Name : 2022-11-13 23:30 ID:xzDQbmmw

>>10
~2009ish. The initial lore of mini/tiny et al is unceremonious, as it was their spat with Ano**alk's mentally unstable sysop's shenanigans spammed all over /b/ constantly that gave all those "tiny" boards visibility.

In spite of her rocky start, tinychan grew to be somewhat liked over the years, as she came to the rescue of many dying text boards - https://dis.tinychan.net. The tinychan frontpage still acting as a convenient sinkhole for low quality posters to this day.

** - the presence of filters even on here is a testament to the menace those boards used to be.

12 Name: 401 - Unauthorized Name : 2022-12-14 00:55 ID:GtiVD5vb

I'd love to see archives of promotional i-mode websites for anime, or anime posters with i-mode links/its logo.

Actually, does anybody know where to find such posters? I've checked the boorus, but there's no good tag for it (at least, not one I'm familiar with).

13 Name: 409 - Name Conflict : 2023-01-08 01:10 ID:I8XLIZaQ

Dwarf Fortress' forum has a WAP mode, and by extension, all SMF-based forums, at least up to 2.0.13.
http://www.bay12forums.com/smf/index.php?wap2 (there isn't an https version? interesting)

14 Name: 415 - Unsupported Name Type : 2023-01-08 01:11 ID:I8XLIZaQ

>>13
Forgot to quote you, >>7. Sorry.

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FOMO and Online Discourse (9)

1 Name: 403 - Name Forbidden : 2022-04-04 06:37 ID:3uGuTXhy

A thread on 4chan on productivity and addiction led to a discussion about Fear Of Missing Out in relation to online conversations, that due to its fast-moving (and in the case of *chans, temporary) it leads to a need to have your eyes on the screen and be glued there waiting for a response, because if you don't get in now you'll miss your chance.

This led me to thinking about how BBSs would have things like QWK and REP files so that you can pull down new comments while you upload your own comments and replies in one step, and can then disconnect. Then to wondering about a format where there would only be weekly "mail drops" where only messages sent before a certain day would get in on that drop.

I suppose the question is, do you think there's a place for a "slower" style of online discourse to take the place (only among certain people, certainly not the majority) of the faster, and FOMO-reliant, style that dominates the web now?

2 Name: 422 - Unprocessable Name : 2022-04-04 10:45 ID:Heaven

>QWK and REP

wat?

dude the main reason I'm here is because here threads don't get flushed into nothingness in seconds, but stay for years instead.

3 Name: 408 - Name Request Timeout : 2022-04-04 16:49 ID:3uGuTXhy

>>2

QWK files were packets of "mail" that had the posts between a certain date on that BBS (usually between last log-on and now) and your personal messages wrapped up into a QWK file where they could be browsed offline. The snazzy thing is that a lot of these offline mail readers allowed you to reply as well, and these would all be wrapped up into a REP file. You would then push these up as you pulled down the new posts in a new QWK file. This meant that you could effectively carry on these conversations while actually being online only once every few days.

And I agree with you on the second part.

4 Name: 405 - Name Not Allowed : 2022-04-04 20:38 ID:UDDhwQmM

Usenet groups are superior version of the same thing, they still exist, and no one cares.
Technologically it is a solved problem. It's not very helpful against addiction (one can just click send and receive more often) or large volume of messages (spam killed usenet).
I have already seen software restraints to emulate the 90s - "you may only send messages once a day" experimental offline-first-lifestyle mailing client at hackernews. If that can do any good is anyone's guess.

5 Name: 422 - Unprocessable Name : 2022-04-05 02:59 ID:19ls9xPb

>>4
What was it called?

6 Name: 401 - Unauthorized Name : 2022-04-05 09:44 ID:3uGuTXhy

>>4
The thing is while I'm using older technology as an example, I'm also not really wanting to "emulate the 90's" beyond just seeing if it is possible to have a more "offline" lifestyle without just using modern social media (which is really what the issue is) less, but rather thinking about either a new paradigm, or even resurrecting an old one.

The actual issue of connection now is solved, but it solved, but in solving it we have created new issues that, it seems to me, has a far more negative effect on people than the flaws of the past, that being that the internet is slow.

I guess what it all really comes down to is that I am just questioning the assumptions that we make about online conversion and whether we should change how we rate it and what standards we apply to it. Why do we call a community with less than a thousand people "dead"? Why do we call a message speed such that you can check once a week, "slow"? What is actually wrong with either of these things if you go to do other things.

It seems that so many people are ready to just go for total abstinence of the technology (NoSurf) rather than a reconsideration of standards.

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7 Name: 401 - Unauthorized Name : 2022-04-19 21:19 ID:VBp+kROr

These are good questions. A small board does not allow for endless doomscrolling and does nothing for the addicted. People who will try to replace a big board with a small one will become discontent. Slow = "the dopamine comes slower than before".
Therefore, I can see why one will try to quit cold turkey. It's a reasonable thing to try when all else fails.

Usenet groups. Yes the absurdly large group tree is a burden and does no good. Some slashdot people had similar idea as you did and picked one already existing group and posted or crossposted all their tech-related messages into it, as an attempt to revive usenet. So it has been tried at least once in relatively recent times (2015? 2018?)

>>5 Found it. Pony "a messenger for mindful correspondence".

8 Name: 409 - Name Conflict : 2022-04-27 08:43 ID:k/qf0LfU

>>7

>Pony "a messenger for mindful correspondence"

I looked in to it a bit, and while it seems like a good idea, it being an app somewhat distances itself from its own mission statement. Yes, the app itself will only deliver messages once a day, but it requires the device that you (mostly) carry with you constantly. Apparently the creator didn't want to just make it e-mail, but I really don't see why, and the reasons they gave for not don't really make much sense unless the reason is purely that he wanted to make money out of it (which he actually admitted in an interview).

>1st Paragraph

This is a good point, but I'm talking about more is that it's more an issue of standards, and it could even be argued that there's elements of surrogacy involved, where people are getting the social interaction online that they don't get in the real world. It's true that for the addicted the "slow net" would either be too little of "a hit" or even that they would use the "slow net" in addition to the "fast net," but I'm more coming at it from a different angle, that is the realigning of what we expect and want from the "digital life."

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9 Name: 405 - Name Not Allowed : 2023-01-08 00:54 ID:olXbJy8G

>>4

>I have already seen software restraints to emulate the 90s - "you may only send messages once a day" experimental offline-first-lifestyle mailing client at hackernews. If that can do any good is anyone's guess.

I prefer the maildrop idea. Stallman replies to his emails in this manner. He downloads email through a gateway, reads and replies to them while offline, processing attached media in the way it's possible for him to do so.
When he connects, he uploads it all as a batch.

I believe he has a schedule, but if not then he does it whenever, unlike the maildrop which often has a set schedule of 1 week.

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how old is the enternet? (3)

1 Name: 409 - Name Conflict : 2023-01-06 17:51 ID:+Je2czhb

how old is the enternet?

2 Name: 405 - Name Not Allowed : 2023-01-07 09:41 ID:+kYEE6JT

>>1
Obviously older than you.

3 Name: 410 - Name Gone : 2023-01-10 09:45 ID:Heaven

>The ARPAnet, the predecessor of the Internet, was born in November 1969, making the Internet 50 years old. In January 1983, ARPAnet shifted to the TCP/IP protocol, which to this date powers the modern Internet.
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BRING BACK IICHAN (11)

1 Name: 405 - Name Not Allowed : 2022-06-01 21:58 ID:7XQ2km/q

There needs to be an effort to revive iichan and bring back the feeling and culture of the glory days of imageboards!

2 Name: 415 - Unsupported Name Type : 2022-06-04 14:30 ID:lqgNeFfY

Even if you got together a bunch of people to recreate the boards, you would not be able to bring back the userbase and general sentiment of the times.

3 Name: 410 - Name Gone : 2022-06-21 14:58 ID:HqgdmaWg

Let's try on /img/ - I will do my best to rebuild the vibe

4 Name: 408 - Name Request Timeout : 2022-12-21 20:44 ID:xtne3WEx

people are stupid, they only use facebook and twitter and shitty mind-controlling socials for zombies, we can't revive the good ol' culture of imageboards

5 Name: 403 - Name Forbidden : 2022-12-21 20:50 ID:xtne3WEx

people are stupid, they like simple and addicting mind-controlling cringe social networks like facebook and twitter, we can't take back the good ol' imageboard culture
:(((((

6 Name: 422 - Unprocessable Name : 2023-01-01 07:27 ID:j0TWyDgU

It's up to us the people. Someone among us must carry the torch

7 Name: 422 - Unprocessable Name : 2023-01-03 05:47 ID:IwfwZ8SQ

It's dead and gone.
That era is over, the people are gone and those who aren't have changed enough with time to be unrecognizable. The one attempt to revive it after wakachan went down was already an impotent failure and that was when we had more people and the memory was fresher.
If you were someone from that time, please move on already. If you're someone who wasn't, just start your own online community instead of imitating a past you will never truly experience.

8 Name: 405 - Name Not Allowed : 2023-01-05 01:48 ID:S82V1qZW

I miss iichan every time I browse. I don't miss having to deal with all the CP posting, though. I think I still have a few of the iichan regulars on my steam friends list.

9 Name: 403 - Name Forbidden : 2023-01-06 08:15 ID:GnnIOYmy

You can bring back the place but you can't bring back the time.

10 Name: 406 - Name Not Acceptable : 2023-01-06 08:58 ID:vMH9xwIx

>>9
This is the truth. Sadly, this is what it has come to. As well as how >>7 put it, "That era is over". The era of imageboards/textboards have been coming to a close or at least majorly dying down. Most of the people who originally was parts of various communities spread across the web have moved on or are struggling to make ends meat let alone having the time to spare to leisurely hang out online as they once did in the past. The only few that have stuck around for as long as the have either have no lives outside of their desktop computers or just mostly avoid other parts of the web clinging to a familiarity that they refuse to let go. Believe, I understand fully. I'm one of those who refuse to let it go despite all of it's vain. I'm not worried about being on a website with thousands of people. Just a small place that's active with a handful is honestly enough to keep me around checking from time to time.

11 Name: 406 - Name Not Acceptable : 2023-03-01 10:15 ID:Heaven

forget iichan somebody should revive 2channel.
sure nobody would use it but fuck it.

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