If anonymous forums are so great (47)

1 Name: 403 - Name Forbidden : 2021-03-28 23:54 ID:LSMTCsYG

Then why are they always filled with conformists? Everyone on them conforms to the same thoughts and behaviors. Despite the fact that they don't have to because it is anonymous! They are like the 5 monkeys experiment played out. Why doesn't anyone use names or tripcodes frequently? Because a couple nerds 20 years ago wanted it that way and everyone just goes along with it. How foolish!

Now you might say other sites are filled with conformists too. And that just means there is nothing special about anonymous boards at all. The only thing that sets them apart is being populated by weird, mentally crippled nerds. If they were truly so great, you would see a much wider range of expression and experimentation in these places. But you don't. Because the people on them are too scared to be different even if no one knows who they are.

2 Name: 403 - Name Forbidden : 2021-03-29 01:22 ID:heoktmfP

black penis

3 Name: 410 - Name Gone : 2021-03-29 19:15 ID:hvCPb2id

I have a tripcode and feel no peer pressure as to when I use it or don't use it. The only people who get pissy over it are teenage mongoloids.

4 Name: 408 - Name Request Timeout : 2021-03-30 01:37 ID:Heaven

Conformity has always been part of textboard culture, anonymity was never about individuality.

5 Name: 401 - Unauthorized Name : 2021-03-30 09:17 ID:Heaven

What the FUCK is "textboard culture"? You mean 4-ch's culture? Or SAoVQ's? What about /prog/? What about foreign textboards like BaI? Do all textboards have the same culture?

6 Name: 403 - Name Forbidden : 2021-03-30 10:03 ID:DaUgPOBA

(・ω・) An individualist, get him!

7 Name: 401 - Unauthorized Name : 2021-03-30 20:08 ID:6M21Nr9z

Yeah, >>4 is crazy.
Textboard culture is whatever culture that comes from use.

8 Name: 410 - Name Gone : 2021-03-30 22:20 ID:LoQLN4cX

It's the issue with so many people coming from 4chan.

The problem with 4chan's culture, a longstanding one, and one that is expressed through its memes and even its dialect, is the implied status of the in-group as the sole holy thing. The in-group is good, the out-group is bad. The in-group here isn't referring here to in-groups in general, but to the specific in-group of the culture of 4chan.

4chan culture, generally, sees all that is outside of its culture as worse than it. All other dialects, cultures, aesthetics, ways of thinking about things, memes, etc. are all seen as inherently worse. 4chan lacks a strict hierarchy, and isn't fond of explicit authority. Despite this, it maintains a surprising amount of consistency over a surprisingly long period of time. It accomplishes this through ridicule. Because the in-group out-group idea is the only idea by which things are generally considered bad or good on 4chan, it sort of has to be taken on faith to be accepted. Mockery, joking, ISHYGDDT, etc. and other sorts of memes are used to reinforce this belief system.

For examples, let's see how traditional ways of ascribing good and bad clash interact with 4chan. Frequently on 4chan, especially in the old days, you'll come across pedo threads. Either loli or real life CP. I'm sure its the same people in both but I digress. Often resistance is met to those, proclaiming them in a negative light from a moral perspective. Moral perspectives are common in most of the world. They're usually quite effective. A moral response is not given by the 4chan consensus however. The response is usually an accusation of being a "moralfag", i.e. one who believes that what is right and wrong determines what is good and bad. Value judgements on immoral or moral acts are considered stupid, immature, foolish. But say that someone, rather than posting cp, makes a post advocating for the consumption of soylent. Or say, someone makes a post that makes unironic use of words like "yikes" "y'all" and "ummm". The response will be, inevitably, one of two things:

  1. an immediate strongly negative reaction, phrased in mocking and ironic terms
  2. a refusal to believe one could even be sincere, that one must only be pretending to be such a foolish person as to use words like "yikes" and drink beverages like soylent. Surely anon is kidding

No one here will ever respond to these responses with accusations of making an unfair value judgment, as one would receive upon responding negatively to pedophilia or desire to rape or threats of violence.

We can see that value judgment is justified on 4chan in only one case: when the judgement is on the basis of "conformity to the norms of the in-group" (good) or "nonconformity to the norms of the in-group" (bad, perceived as conformity to the norms of the out-group, phrases such as "yes goy" or "amirite reddit" or "you will never be a woman" associate the cultural intruder with an often very vague enemy. Soyjaks serve this purpose extremely well, since the enemy is so vague and so hated)

This form of cultural control, where that which lies within the 4chan culture is seen as the sole good, is very effective, and very good at sticking to the mind. After enough time on 4chan, you'll feel embarrassed about not saying slurs. You'll feel as if you're doing something wrong or shameful when you say "trans" instead of "tranny".

9 Name: 422 - Unprocessable Name : 2021-03-31 09:50 ID:Heaven

Don't act naive. I didn't say that all textboards everywhere have the same culture, of course the spirit of every board is dependent on the people who post there, Captain Obvious >>7-san. I'm talking about "anonymous boards" in general, I just wrote textboard because we are on one right now, and you would really have to be bad faith and pedantic to pretend that all these boards running the same software emulating the same websites don't have a common preference for anonymity and posting without an identity, which is the basis of what I was referring to. The medium is the message, shii literally argued all of this two decades ago when he argued that the very nature of the software and the lack of registration changes the nature of the discussions had. This isn't even a wild or hot take.

And I'm not using conformity in the sense that >>8 is using it. Conformity itself is a loaded phrase, obviously, implying that all posters here have no personality, or implying that there are social pressures forcing people to hold opinions they don't really hold to fit in with a group. The amount of disagreements and heated arguments I've seen on this textboard would lead me to believe that's not as big of a problem here as it is elsewhere.

Rather, when I say that conformity (being forced to use OP's original phrasing) was always part of it, I'm talking about the kind of thing 0037 observed with homogeneity, the fact that threads in anonymous boards generally are about a topic and not about the individual posters within the thread. The Wikipedia article thread in dqn is a perfect example of a homogenous thread, and "conformity" is baked into it, but this has nothing to do with foregoing your individuality.

10 Name: 403 - Name Forbidden : 2021-03-31 21:39 ID:Heaven

I'm 12 and this is deep

11 Name: 405 - Name Not Allowed : 2021-03-31 21:45 ID:Heaven

The Evolian weeaboo's theses were proven wrong by everything that has happened this past decade.

>Rather, when I say that conformity (being forced to use OP's original phrasing) was always part of it, I'm talking about the kind of thing 0037 observed with homogeneity, the fact that threads in anonymous boards generally are about a topic and not about the individual posters within the thread

This isn't really that different from traditional PHP forums if you ever used one before they were replaced by reddit. Anonymity isn't that big of a deal.

12 Name: 401 - Unauthorized Name : 2021-04-01 03:59 ID:r21YfSau


That is a very interesting post but i don't think the culture of 4chan is that deep to be honest it is just a bunch of nerds acting like idiots on the internet that's really it.

13 Name: 415 - Unsupported Name Type : 2021-04-01 04:07 ID:r21YfSau


Are you a cute girl?

14 Name: 405 - Name Not Allowed : 2021-04-01 05:23 ID:5zrC06cm

Ingroup/outgroup tribalism isn't "deep".

15 Name: 409 - Name Conflict : 2021-04-02 12:07 ID:KS4yjf07

but what the hell fuck shit piece of argumentative jumps was that? first, since when conformism = bad? fucking disgusting materialist forma-mentis
in order to say this it is necessary to have the same conformity, conformism of those who considered that conformity is disqualifying
do i need to say how idiotic this is?

the alchemical excellence requires convergence from ≠ until crystallization to magnum opus
what there is here is not a decree that comes from heaven but the transmutation of more than 25 years of anonymous discussion

16 Name: 409 - Name Conflict : 2021-04-02 15:38 ID:Heaven

speak English motherfucker

17 Name: 408 - Name Request Timeout : 2021-04-02 18:10 ID:KS4yjf07

feel grateful that i am — violating my sacred latin fingers — still writing in this pagan demonic and filthy language

18 Name: 410 - Name Gone : 2021-04-02 19:10 ID:Heaven

No one speaks Latin anymore, not even in Latvia.

19 Name: 408 - Name Request Timeout : 2021-04-02 19:42 ID:Heaven

Hoc nego, ego possum Latine loqui.

20 Name: 403 - Name Forbidden : 2021-04-02 23:29 ID:Heaven

speak English motherfucker

21 Name: 405 - Name Not Allowed : 2021-04-03 08:30 ID:nno3CR0S

They aren't great and attract it faggots and losers as its core audience

22 Name: 415 - Unsupported Name Type : 2021-04-04 22:49 ID:Heaven

It says "that's not true/I deny that, I can speak Latin"

23 Name: 410 - Name Gone : 2021-04-06 11:34 ID:gpqO4llv

if you don't like /dqn/ just go to beechan

24 Name: 408 - Name Request Timeout : 2021-04-07 19:05 ID:DFXSvuLL

Cogito, ergo sum.

25 Name: 408 - Name Request Timeout : 2021-04-07 19:52 ID:Heaven

Dubito, ergo sim.

26 Name: 401 - Unauthorized Name : 2021-04-08 17:06 ID:YsjpiRZH

Honestly the whole idea that "conformity is bad" is kind of stupid. If a lot of people are doing something the same way, then yes, it probably is a good idea.

27 Name: 422 - Unprocessable Name : 2021-04-08 20:08 ID:Heaven

Fallacious thinking, but the premise itself is also fallacious so you can be forgiven.

28 Name: 415 - Unsupported Name Type : 2021-04-09 11:52 ID:KS4yjf07

both are ridiculous
few will inherit the kingdom of the heavens (;´c`)

29 Name: 422 - Unprocessable Name : 2021-04-18 15:59 ID:3mkLrngz

wait is this ment 2b a srs statment or one of thoose funny recursive tortological sentanses liek this?

the statement below is true

the statement above is false

uwu broke my brainu desu :(((

30 Name: 410 - Name Gone : 2021-04-18 16:18 ID:Heaven

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31 Name: 403 - Name Forbidden : 2021-04-30 21:40 ID:rk62zdK4

You can't even mention reddit on an anonymous forum without a bunch of nerds swarming in to write a damn essay full of opinions they picked up from someone else. the brainwashing of "anonymous culture" is counter productive to what it is supposedly offers.

32 Name: 403 - Name Forbidden : 2021-04-30 22:14 ID:6u51DXpx

bbs-aids says

33 Name: 401 - Unauthorized Name : 2021-05-01 04:16 ID:Heaven

seethe etc

34 Name: 405 - Name Not Allowed : 2021-05-01 12:18 ID:G+UcCI7o

Imageboard culture is reddit without the self-awareness.

35 Name: 401 - Unauthorized Name : 2021-05-01 17:52 ID:/5rz1Riy

Please think before you post

36 Name: 401 - Unauthorized Name : 2021-05-01 22:25 ID:lMRURHWE

37 Name: 405 - Name Not Allowed : 2021-05-05 08:14 ID:HO4B72Hp

Input -> Programming -> Thoughts -> Emotions -> Actions -> Output

>string input = "[REDACTED] did [REDACTED].";
>Programming programming = UpdateProgramming(input);
>string thought = GenerateThought(input, programming);
>EmotionalState emotion = GenerateEmotion(input, programming, thought);
>Print(PerformAction(input, programming, thought, emotion));

"It's [REDACTED]'s fault that I'm a lazy bastard that isn't doing anything with my life!"

38 Name: 409 - Name Conflict : 2021-05-08 02:48 ID:Heaven

I know this is probably bait but both Reddit and imageboards are so wide and varying in their culture comparing them overall is disingenous

39 Name: 409 - Name Conflict : 2021-05-08 08:01 ID:Heaven

Imageboards are the places redditors go to when they want to say things they don't want to say on their reddit accounts.

40 Name: 409 - Name Conflict : 2021-05-09 15:05 ID:SimZlCbQ

They have more in common than both would like to admit. (This is also true of most other warring factions. Wait why are factions even warring? this is the internet)

41 Name: 405 - Name Not Allowed : 2021-05-14 05:43 ID:9wY+M+ui

I don't really know if they're warring anymore. Reddit is rarely invoked these days and there seems to be a general dislike of Discord on imageboards more than anything else.
Twitter also snowballs their culture onto both.

42 Name: 422 - Unprocessable Name : 2021-05-18 01:57 ID:Heaven

>Everyone on them conforms to the same thoughts and behaviors.

Which is why they are tearing each other's throats nonstop, eh? Sane people either left those places long ago, or no longer bother to correct bullshit. If you want to know how forums die, this is one way - zero trust to anything.

Everyone somebody says something, imagine that they mean the complete opposite. It often makes much more sense this way.

43 Name: 406 - Name Not Acceptable : 2021-11-06 02:45 ID:YB/6CEr+

Users at 4-ch have been recognizing me by my posts (even though I was posting anonymously) because this is such a gay tiny community. It is lame, but you can probably tell who I am by the following text:

https://archive.md/BoeTV - Boe TV (television)
^of https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=1W706zdVwc0 > https://www.youtube.com/watch?app=desktop&v=1W706zdVwc0
^titled "DuckDuckGo: None of Our Business"
^video which I saw today on a television

44 Name: 422 - Unprocessable Name : 2021-11-06 08:39 ID:Heaven

Because you stand out in the weirdest way possible... Don't think I've ever seen anyone else pad out their posts with tangentially related links + archived versions + metadata.

45 Name: 401 - Unauthorized Name : 2021-11-10 16:37 ID:u2O0yMyg

Imagine a forum conforming to OPs vision. Chaos! The only non-conformity I would value in a forum would be in a wider variety of the ideas themselves and not how they're conveyed. Conformity in expression is at least partially needed if there is to be clarity in intent. You can't expect every text-forum user to have any sort of interesting writing ability and must concede to the lowest common denominator. And lets face it, most board* users are.

46 Name: 405 - Name Not Allowed : 2021-11-10 18:51 ID:eqrfGpm1

Enforced non-conformity! authoritarian anarchism.
You'll pay to know what you really think.
Act like a dumbshit and they'll treat you like an equal.

47 Name: 408 - Name Request Timeout : 2022-04-14 23:28 ID:D4KA3KHR

>>1 >>4
My take;
As was mentioned in >>4, 4chan's culture does not allow for any mention or addition of anything not already established in 4chan culture i.e. they're a very conformitive online community. But forcing a non-conformitive community would not work and might end up being equally as bad. You're fighting a mostly invisible enemy; what are you preventing from conforming to, and is it possible to conform to non-conformity? I can't really answer that, that's something you'll have to figure out for yourself if you want a strictly non-conformitive online community. By what we've already established, a "better" online community than 4chan should be neither conformitive nor non-conformitive, but good luck if you're going to enforce how you want people to use your ideal boards.

>TLDR; what >>45 and >>46 said
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