Hi there!
Is Avatar an Anime or not and do you like it either way?
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Anything without their ANN link let alone Ani.db will never be one
>>133
Avatar is airing in Japan. It even has a Japanese dub.
>>141
Well, I've heard the dub, and as a fan of the English original, I think it's really...meh. Azula's Japanese VA makes me facepalm.
There's lots of Japanese fanart already, though. Right now the second season is airing,which is when the show really gets best imho.
More people should watch this over being worried about being anime
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Never considered one no matter how much people makes it look alike
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Avatar would not be popular without people that insist being anime
How is that crap even considered anime?
That's like saying "Jackie Chan Adventures" is anime...
Just because it's draw in a similar anime-wannabe style dot NOT mean it is anime.
Then again most weeaboos don't even know the the difference.
Weeaboos are the least people to consider anything like this anime
Avatar is annoying and is in no way anime. It doesn't qualify at all.
>>148 agreed
Funny though, I have friends who call it "Chiname". lol.
They would like something more nihon authentic not cheap imitation
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why not? just because of where it is made?
Anime is never an art style but any nihon made animated production
>Just because it's draw in a similar anime-wannabe style dot NOT mean it is anime.
>Then again most weeaboos don't even know the the difference.
most weaboos don't even know that 'anime' is japanese word for all cartoons independently of country or style
So if any Japanese person draws an animation it is anime, even if it isn't in anime style?
Anime style makes a loose term when some anime looks western drawn
Avatar is retarded, regardless of whether it is anime or not.
oh wow this shitty thread is still alive
>most weaboos don't even know that 'anime' is japanese word for all cartoons independently of country or style
how true. I hate to admit it myself, but godforsaken fucking shit like Spongebob Squarepants would be considered anime to them.........
The debate we are having now is like the debate over the definition of "otaku" it depends on if you are using the Japanese or English version.
I know ill get some hater after what I just said at some point.
It's anime. Just not Japanese anime.
That's just like saying that The Boondocks is an anime.
It drawn in an anime style, but I wouldn't consider it a true anime. As Mr >>163 kinda related to, its drawn in that kind of anime way, but its not an anime.
lol internet
2 years have passed, and this thread has beeen bumped a plethora of times :]
But, i dont know. I never liked Avatar.
It's funny to see the Otaku mentality this way. "Don't let anyone taint our Otaku vocabulary."
Is this the reason why you use "hentai" to refer to only Japanese porn animation?
I'm sorry, but "anime" is just a shortened form of "animation" in general and "hentai" means
"perverts" in general in the Japanese language.
If you mock Japanese people trying to speak English as "Engrish", what should this Otaku vocabulary
called?
>>167
The word Anime was Americanized to refer to Japanese Animation and has been used in pretty much every other country outside of Japan to refer to Japanese Animation.
Hentai can mean pervert (most commonly used is Ecchi) but it does actually mean porn, too.
Avatar is an American animation. There's no other word for that other than Cartoon. Unless you're Japanese and can't speak a lick of English, you can't call it Anime.
It's not drawn in an Anime style. It's a mock-up. Same shit as Teen Titans. American Animators suddenly think "hey, Anime is cool and all the hip and trendy kids dig it. Let's attempt to replicate it in any way we can for higher ratings!"
Of course, I haven't seen an American animation company replicate the actual -animation- side of things with the crap they produce, the only thing they're good at is reading "How To Draw Manga" books and implementing it into their shitty kids cartoons.
you took the words right out of my mouth. i have to agree with what you have said.
i have nothing against american companies who make cartoons based on whatever they think up. but i hate those who even try to mimic the styles from anime itself. they are nowhere near the perfection anime can produce. they should give it up and try to find their own unique style and stop imitating other culture's success in animation.
>>169
I didn't expect to hear a reply that is repeated ad nauseam at this point. Well, what can I expect
from a person for whom the Engrish satire bit was easily lost. Your reply, along with many other
brainless replies, boils down to the country of origin and some obscure "Anime style" or
"actual -animation- side of things" as if there were such a monolithic, monadic entity exists in
the Japanese animation industry. I'm sorry, there isn't. It's some concept that is coined for your
convenience. It doesn't hold any significance as far as the the efficacy of your argument goes.
So, again, your reply just repeated this "country of origin" argument. Just give me examples of
words used in the English speaking world that have the "country of origin" bit built into their
definition, just like you say the word Anime does. Like >>35 said, it's a medium. A movie made in
wherever is still called a movie in English. Yes, an American cook can make a dish that can be
legitimately called a Japanese dish. What is wrong with you?
If satire is lost, let me ask directly. Why do you have to act in such a way so that even the language
you use has to have some exclusive elite status? I can do without the "How To Draw Manga"
book, ok? Funny that >>170 has to start with "i have nothing against american companies", isn't it?
How many times have you heard the phrase "I don't mean to offend you, but..."? Does that mean
anything? What is wrong with you?
>but it does actually mean porn, too.
In Japanese? No, it's too generic to be used to refer to only porn. It's used porn titles a lot because
it's such a convenient word.
A interesting thing about Avatar is that the animators where required by the director to buy and watch all of FLCL before working on the project. If you watch Avatar you will notice tons of moments that are very reminiscent with FLCL.
Other Japanglish words that bother me in recent years are exemplified here.
http://www.animenation.net/blog/2009/12/28/ask-john-are-there-any-shounen-anime-starring-girls/
Shounen, Shoujo, and Seinen.
They are the words used by magazine editors to target thier products to specific readers as in Shounen Jump. Japanese animation is never classified this way. Weekly magazines and animation shows are rightfully understood as different products in Japan. It's OK if you want to classify them differently outside of Japan, but why do you have to employ Japanese words to do so (if classifying differently is really what you want to do)? The Japanese audience would laugh at the extreme measure taken to alphabetize Japanese words only to be used in a different manner.
Think of this way. Those who want to protect the sacrosanctity of the word "anime" are the very people who taint Japanese words. Ignorance is clearly not bliss.
anime = animated
It's considered an anime in Japan, but not in America, since the Japanese word アニメ is not limited to Japanese animation.
>>173
Actually Japanese animation is in fact classified (by the viewers and reviewers if not the producers and TV stations) as shounen, shoujo etc, though there are obviously a large number of shows that defy this classification system. Are you going to argue that anime is never targeted to a specific audience? If so, I will have to laugh in your face.
KORRA is hot; fire-bend!
ATLA is too good to be anime
If we're going by actual definition, every animated show counts as anime, since anime tends to refer to animation in general. But in this context, I wouldn't say AtlA is anime, at least not Japanese anime.
Is this anime?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BTaUFk0loqQ
Reviving this old thread, sorry. Would you consider the new season/reboot of Bee and Puppycat an anime? While it was originally an American show, it's now a co-production between Frederator and OLM.
>>186
Yes. Anime just means animation in Japanese. If it's animated then it is strictly speaking anime. Western fans use the word to distinguish between Western and Eastern productions but the line has become blurry with co-productions lately. I guess we could look at Scorsese's idea of cinema (it's a special kind of visual experience and you know it when you see it) and see "anime" as a distinct type of animation. But then it's all in the eye of the beholder.