Thread to talk about actor Tom Hiddleston
Tom Hiddleston 1
http://4-ch.net/tv/kareha.pl/1382608996/
Tom Hiddleston 2
http://4-ch.net/tv/kareha.pl/1410345704/
Strange that the person who sold the photos to the DM didn't think to tell them about the photo at the spa in Nola. That would have made the splash even bigger.
Maybe the other cab just showed up on spec for nobody in particular. In my experience standing on an empty street Hailo-ing a cab is the best way to make 3 other cabs appear while you're waiting.....!
I read people reported seeing TH on the tube before the play at the theatre, on twitter I suppose, so they met there. They truly are 2 different people.
>>153 the detail that doesn't convince me is that he goes straight for the taxi further away from the gate, as if to leave the nearest one to her, so that she could get away from paps as soon as possible.
I need to apologise for my harsh words, I'm just very emotional.
I'm ashamed of vanity fair. It seems all magazines have become yellow press, they just copy the articles from the most yellow magazines and then publish it. God... there is no normal thing to read any more.
As for the cabs, I'm pretty sure they had two, as well as Elizabeth ra towards Tom's cab. And finally somebody said my thought out loud, I'm sure the EO pulled the JA thing and that's why Tom looked so angry. EO behavior, paps, flashes right in the face... I was torn between a wish to pity him or to give him a good ole hammer lol.
And for sure EO stays in hotel. Its her PR- as I said I can bet my life.
All we need to do is wait, if TH is in on it, then we'll have other public outing and red carpet smooching. If not, we'll know whose PR it was.
And all we know after all this is what we already knew before - TH acts mysterious with the laydeez. Didn't someone once say he never gave JA a key and she always had to ring his bell - and they must have been together for a year. Plus the rather ungallant "nothing to write home about" when he was seen with her again 3 months later at the Donmar and therefore clearly was seeing her when he said that.
If I was in another country visiting someone I knew well & had had a thing with 6m ago & wanted to see if it was worth rekindling I would expect to be staying at his place. Surely for them it is a lot more private than a hotel and it isn't a bedsit so space can't be an issue. Clearly things are different if it is TH! But consistent with his previous behaviour perhaps.
It must be lurve because he has upped his sartorial game compared to JA - he has bought a new Emporio Armani watch which cost as much as £120! Someone really needs to burn his entire casual wardrobe and show him the inside of Selfridges.
I like Tom's attitude towards clothes. He wears what he likes and seems he is attached to things. He is the way he is, in his old boots and jeans, he still is Tom. Plus this, the guy seems not to like or doesn't find it necessary to buy very expensive things, and I like that too. Its very down to earth behaviour in my opinion. Its better like that then like Ben or Beckham.
>>161 He seems to spend a lot on his formal gear. I do find the devotion to ancient cardigans etc quite endearing. Those boots tho. They must smell like a monkey's bum by now. Maybe EO stayed at a hotel because she couldn't stand the smell.
I took a closer look at the pic of TH getting into the car and it seems that :
1) this is not the driver side so he definitely did not drive the car
2) he's getting into the backseat
Yet, when he is alone with a driver, he always chooses the passenger seat...
I thought that - but it looks like a pap-quality shot. If she was with him I feel sure they would have got a shot of her getting in and/or of them both in the back seat.
I only see one Jag pic on Torrilla (the one with the door in the foreground) - which ones do you mean?
>>166 Sorry, I looked at them yesterday so my memory is a little hazy. They're in the same photo group but he's walking towards the camera and I assumed the Jag, and she is walking in the other direction in the background.
guys the photo where they both there are the one with the taxi, with the jag he was alone. >>164 is right, if she had been there with him they would have took a photo. It would have made an even better headline. And remember that TH reached the theatre by tube, alone.
*took taken
>>168 The tube sighting was before 5pm though, so I doubt that's when he headed to the theatre.
>>170 the elephant man starts at 19.30 but in theatre entrance is what, 1 hour in advance? Maybe he was going to meet EO at her hotel before heading to the theatre.
Help me out, I don't remember the sequence is theatre and then dinner or dinner right?
>>172 Tube, theatre, dinner, paparazzi pics after dinner, then Tom without her in the Jag.
Not to beat a dead horse, or cause more disagreement, but there is another vid, this one from Splash News, of the pap walk. Sorry, I don't know how to link. I saw it on Twitter - maybe a search for Splash will bring it up.
As EO is walking along, she says, 'Tom, where are you?'
He then replies, 'By the kerb, babe."
And on this vid, the conversation at the end is a little more clear.
Even if he says "babe", there is nothing special. He calls his fans babe, darling and etc. For him it's a normal thing to address women like that.
Ah now I think I can hear him saying Lizzie, though I don't hear it in the video from daily mail. But obedient hear anything like babe and so on in this one.
All this is weird. Very weird. Seems.like they appeared just right in front of the paps, and we're walking apart from each other, and in this video I can see that she tried to get one cab, but then they changed their mind and got into his as if they tried to get rid of paps as soon as possible. I don't get the hiding by the fence thing, she acted rather stupid... all her actions seems.to be stupid. I'm.afraid she pulled JA, and will pay for that.
Don't get the romantic vibe from them either, from the very first video (leaving the theatre) especially. Just two friends hanging out.
He says something else doesn't he? between the "by the kerb babe" and "cab is here"
>>182 to me it sounded like he said "I called 2" but I trust you on this, since I didn't even hear him the first time.
>>183 Actually, I'll trust you, because it's possible. He might have called two because they wanted to hedge their bets and get at least one, or so they could take separate ones. All speculation.
As to that final pic of him getting into a car, supposedly alone - I don't think it rules out entirely the possibility that they maybe met up later for hanky and/or panky. He very well could have joined her at her hotel, wishing to arrive separately - not wanting to get papped walking into her hotel together. Because that really would have broken Tumblr!
I do think it's odd that two people who are allegedly in a relationship and only in the same city for a brief period of time didn't spend the night together.
>>185 But if they were trying to keep it a secret, why go to a celebrity and paparazzi hot spot together two days after being photographed, when there are already rumors of a relationship? And then why the Us Weekly story, which is where EO releases her PR info? Not to mention Twitter sightings etc. It's not like tumblr wasn't aware of them possibly being a couple.
>>186 As I said in my post, they might have met up again later after going their separate ways. Also, they may be spending more than a little time together, we don't know what their schedules look like - they may have plenty of time to spend some 'quality time' together. Wink, wink!
>>187 Well, being papped coming from dinner says, yep, we're going out, we like each other, we've connected.
Going directly to her hotel says, we are hitting each other hard!
It's a little in your face - even if it's a perfectly normal part of a relationship!
I would hope that they are hitting each other hard if they are a couple! But that maybe isn't the image they want out there.
>>189 True, but Tom's not exactly known for keeping that kind of thing a secret. He took Jane Arthy on a tropical vacation, and there are doubts as to how serious that relationship even was.
Also keep in mind there's already been a story in Us about them "hooking up" recently, so if it's true that they are sleeping together it wouldn't be news to anyone.
>>190 You're right, Anonsy. But that vacation was documented with a shot of him at the airport, and then one of them with some chefs at the restaurant. Of course, they were staying in the same room, and we all know what they were doing in that room. But an airport and restaurant pic are tame compared to a pic of them going into a hotel together after dinner.
Yeah, I don't get that first US Weekly article. It doesn't paint their relationship in the best light. But then I don't get PR, it baffles me.
Is there a PR guru on this board to give us some insight?
PS - I like you Anonsy, you seem level-headed!
Anon forgive if I'm.wrong, you seem to be too much invested in proving that TH and EO are a thing. You remind of someone from nw3 blog.
>>192 I'm not, really. I genuinely don't know if they are in a relationship or not, and then I don't know what type of relationship it may be - there are so many types!
I know about NW3, but I'm not on Tumblr. I post here and lurk at LSA.
As for TH, I think he's great, in lots of ways. But I'm a realist with a boyfriend, so I'm not personally invested in his private life. But I think it's fun to speculate and see the drama played out.
In a relationship, fine; not in a relationship, also fine. I just love the gossip!
I don't love gossips, lol, they make me panic.
I'm sure that he isn't in a relationship, it smells like a heavy American PR to me, from her side. It won't last long though. I have the same gut feeling as I had with JA, though I don't remember any heavy drama about her, or I just didn't care... I don't like EO a lot, she is Olsen, Olsens can't be good.
Just thought back to the Chiltern Firehouse "I am not dating JA" pap walk, also very shortly after Twitter explosion when spotted with new woman. He may not have set this one up but it cannot remotely have been a surprise to him that it happened.
But his relationship PR seems either non-existent or focussed on denial (eg "nothing to write home about" when still seeing JA). So I reckon it is her PR team running this. He presumably is aware of the plan and going along with it. Not sure how much he likes it though. I have rarely seen him look so stony-faced. Nor can I imagine he wants a minute by minute account of their relationship in us weekly - since his position was that when he had something worth saying he would say it.
>>195 Did he do a pap walk at Chiltern? I'm newish - this year - to TH.
I'm a little sad that I missed the whole JA relationship. The boards must have been EPIC!
I confess that I know nothing about EO's PR (e.g., that US Weekly is their mag of choice) or about PR in general, but I still think that if it's PR, even if it's her PR, he is fully in on it and if not encourages, at least does not object to it. If he wanted to keep everything under wraps, why would he go to that restaurant instead of choosing a quieter place? He's a Londoner, he must've known it's pap-friendly.
TBH, they both seem quite stony-faced and distressed. Maybe they did not expect it to be such a large ambush.
Yes, yes, the stone face! Have never seen him like that before. He was very angry and as I understood from his look at EO he was rather irritated at her behavior when she was pretending oh ah to be such a victim. But he is brought up to good to be rude with a woman, so I kinda understand why he addressed her calmly. But without any tenderness a man would have to bis beloved. We've seen him in love, and we know how he acts... in any ways, WhAt I saw water friends and one.if them acting very stupid.
Why donyoubthinknit it was him.who chose the place? EO has been in London enough Times to suggest. She doesn't have a stone face. Tom is rather angry. Say whatever you want but they dint have a vibe of lovers. And perhaps he realized it was a pr from her just when it happened? I doubt he needs this pr, he knows how Wil it damage his reputation.
>>199 If he didn't want to go, he could've refused. You go to a pap-friendly place - there's a very big chance you'll get papped. There's no way he did not know that.
I am not going to argue about love vibes, seems pointless. It's like when everyone at CB was analysing early photos of BC and his wife saying there's no way they are together, they have no vibe, they are not looking at each other, etc., and we all know how that ended.
Well lets say that if they didn't want to go public with their relationship, they wouldn't have chosen to make two relatively high profile appearances almost 24 hours after that first blurry picture went on the bicycle site.
I would be more surprised if Tom hadn't been hooking up / in love with / going out with anyone in the last 12 months tbh.
Oh well yes seems like you, qaz, are pretty sure and want them.to be together, but it's not. Tom is not Ben, so there is not need to hint on that.
Tom would 've head different expression of he was happy with this. And paps could been called to any place if you give them direction. Its EO PR team chasing him. God, I wish this woman could go and fins herself a proper american actor with all her American PR jumps.
I don't know why people are still saying that he wraps his hand around her neck in the first photo that Toby put pushed. I know Toby and her shitty sources that would gladly troll everyone because they hate Tom so much... He isn't wrapping his hand, He put his hand on her shoulder and I think we all know bow touchy he is And by the moment of Elizabeth's elbow I can say that a) she was friendly punching him and getting rid of him b) wrapping her hand around his waist. But since we didn't get the next movement photo, I'm sure she didn't wrap her hand on his waist, otherwise Toby's photographer would gladly make another photo, so y the weirdness of the cropped photos and the lack of the details, I can say it's a friendly banter. We all have male friends, and a lot of my friends put their hands on my shoulder when they make a joke or anything... knowing the Toby's nasty sources I can bet my life that we were shown what they wanted us to see, otherwise why crop? Why only one moment? They wanted us to see IT and nothing else.
http://www.hollywood-elsewhere.com/2015/07/williams-biopic-telluride-toronto/
This article says they have been dating since the film shot last year. Hmmm, could be the author going on a quick search, or could be info. that the PR for the film is releasing.
And if PR is releasing the info that they've been dating since last year, certainly that makes the timeline for EO's relationship with BH very sketchy.
The plot thickens!
Goodness so we have two Anon and now two anonymous (on of them being me haha it's getting complicated :)
>>195 you are referring to the papa photos with Lara Pulver i suppose? I know a lot of people take that as his PR but it wasn't. Lara Pulver, who was at the time in a relationship with another actor (she might still be I don't know) is very good friends with Murray, they were tweeting before the Wimbledon final that year, so that she was there going to his victory party wasn't really for the benefit of doing a favour to TH. TH was also there for the same reason, the odd thing was that he didn't brought JA.
It was funny though when the DM didn't even recognise Lara Pulver. She even comment on it on her twitter.
>>204 it does sound like an article written by a fan of cinema more than from a journalist with sources. Anyway, as I've been saying from the beginning, no matter what, people will think they have been hooking up while she was engaged, so this is a PR disaster for TH.
>>207 But then it's also a PR disaster for her, i.e. she's the one who supposedly was cheating while still engaged. Yet, many people seem to think that it's her PR. Which leads me to a conclusion that I don't understand PR at all, lol.
Can I just (I hope in a nice way) repeat >>147?
Lex, you've now accused 2 people of holding a view because they "want" TH to be in a relationship.. That's a way of belittling a person's opinion because you are saying on some level it isn't rationally held.
As 147 said that's really not what this community is about. I found it last year and have been lurking and posting since then; others such as qaz and couch potato much longer. It is a friendly place where posters take a light hearted and at times ironic look at the life, work, loves and foibles of TH. I stayed because people treated each other with politeness and respect and above all because although they discussed (eg) JA avidly they didn't take it or themselves too seriously. And because someone always got and posted the good links and info (all the more important now we don't have Torrilla helping us in English!).
What it definitely isn't is a place where you bludgeon people with your opinion and if they still don't agree you call them over invested, say they are saying things because they "want" a particular outcome etc. If that's the style of debate you want there are other places where that is the accepted mode (eg Celebitchy). But not here. So, stay, join the conversation. But please try and remember it's not a shouting match.
>>208 absolutely, I mention him since this thread is about him. To be honest I also believe that the fancy restaurant was her choice, that's why I don't get her behaviour. TH seems to take it as a obvious consequence but her "do not look at me I'm not here" makes little sense. Nothing makes sense! lol
a timeline courtesy of someone at CB. Is something missing?
7 He’s spotted later getting into a car by himself.
So, we can all agree that nothing makes sense!
Maybe all PR is good PR? It's the world's most simple Ven diagram?!
>>206 I did mean the LP thing. I didn't mean it was set up for PR, more that he seemed aware that after the twitter storm he was bound to be papped and that attending without JA would send a particular message. Likewise here a night out after the recent twitterstorm would equally send a message and he would know that. I am sure he was complicit but equally I am not sure he liked the outcome much - probably wishes he had stayed with his previous rather chaotic MO. I do get the impression American PR is much more interventionalist, wanting to "get news out there" to control is release even if (as we all think) it is bad news!
>>211 I'm not on Twitter, but people were mentioning tweets from the Tube and even from inside The Wolseley, one from someone sat next to them, yet never linked to them, so I'm not sure if those exist.
And it could be that if they both took the Tube...well, they wouldn't be together, she would be in the carriage behind his with a purse over her face.
It's like the expression, "There's no such thing as bad publicity." People are certainly talking about them and I Saw the Light, which is probably exactly what whoever orchestrated all this wanted. The fact that none of it makes sense and he went home alone makes me more inclined to think it's a very casual relationship, or they're just friends and it's all for PR. It doesn't seem to fit with a full-blown relationship.
Of course I could be wrong, but we will probably never know the truth. We will just continue to get whatever story Tom, Elizabeth, their PR, the movie's PR, the press, etc. have decided to give us.
Do you think one of them might have had tickets for theatre in advance? So going to theatre was something decided before the first 2 pics. Restaurant of course is another matter altogether.
>>214 hahaha Just the image of her using such a commoner means of transportation like the tube is enough to make me laugh, but the addition of the purse is lovely.
It's funny how EO had a skirt incident in Paris, showing all her delicates to the world but she laughed it off, and here she was in a frenzy for photos of her face.
>>215 VF certainly bought it! They published that article straight after the pics and said something like "of course even more interesting if they are together". And this way even with the "hooking up" is a lot better than a "TH broke up EO engagement" splash in the tabloids.
I do sense a real relationship but the going home makes me think it is at an earlier stage than I would previously have thought given when they filmed ISTL (though of course they haven't seen each other much since then). Maybe there is an element of pushing the relationship along from her side. I bet a lot of ordinary people would do the same if they had PR. It's a much bigger version of "tell all our friends we are together and hope that cements the relationship." God I would so hate to go out with someone who had "their people" - no wonder so many celebrity relationships go bad.
see, she can handle paps when she wants
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6QbDiUoz8b0
Someone on CB said she pulled the same stunt when seen with Chris Evans leaving a club in April, bag over face etc. haven't seen any pics. But seemingly a selective approach to being papped. What do I know, maybe it's worse in the dark to have all that flash. Still feels fake though.
The message idea is interesting but I think it's not valid, because if the behaviour. Their behaviour is strange, and his first of all. She totally tried to pulled a victim so the paps could snap him protecting her but instead she got cold, irritated behaviour from Tom, though he was too gentleman to leave her behind and got her a cab. In the second video it's clear that she rushed after him in the second car so they could leave together, and it wasn't what he wanted,,, otherwise once in the car he would have acted differently with her.
I say it's her or and she tries to raise her popularity by trying to make people believe she dates a famous guy. First chris, then.Tom. she is Olsen and what else to expect?
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I've just read EO really loves Swift and all. Worst case scenario, we might end up with EO writing a song about TH, or have her friend Swift writing one for her, title "Nothing makes sense"
>>220 considering that her people, or her, can't even feed the story right to usweekly, they took the cab leaving a restaurant not on their way to theatre, that it feels fake makes sense. Yes! Something that makes sense :)
Saw this over at LSA. Could be from an insider, could be from an angry fan.
looks like we're not the only ones to go "eh?" when we look at how the publicity has been "managed" here....
>>224 I tend not to put much stock in those blind item websites. There were several people bragging on tumblr last month about making up completely fake gossip and getting it published. I agree that the one about Tom and Elizabeth does sound kind of hostile, and there isn't any new information in it, so I'm going to go with angry fan submission or the website itself doing a "let's post a very believable non-disprovable story to boost our own credibility" move. I think a real insider would have given some details other than the ones the general public has already heard or speculated.
>>227 I agree nothing more factually than jumping to an obvious conclusion that they will presumably never admit to. I was just interested that others think it has been badly handled - it's not that we just don't understand how PR works.
>>228 Yes! I feel the same way. Sometimes I start to wonder if it's just me lol. It's nice to know we're not the only ones who think something weird is going on there.
The old "never explain never apologise" seems to be right out of fashion. No, let's positively draw attention to "getting close" (cough, shagging) on set and also make it sound like cheating to get casual sex by talking about "hooking up." I still maintain there would have been so much less to talk about had they said nothing in May and then appeared together now.
>>230 You're probably right. I don't know, it's just one big PR mess to me. Can't seem to get my mind around it in any scenario. If it's a fake relationship - doesn't make sense. If it's real and serious - doesn't make sense. If it's real and casual - doesn't make sense. Ugh.
I wonder if this can all be explained with one word:
LUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUKE.
>>232 HAHA oh Luke. I'd like to hope he's better than all this.
Always wondered about the business sense of that particular relationship given they are apparently good mates. Too close for objectivity on eithe side. Maybe better with someone else as boss to oversee decisions but now - how can he suggest or TH easily accept tough decisions? (like, don't do what she tells you about PR)
Sorry I mean Luke may have been a better publicist to TH when he had a boss in that larger firm.
Nerdist Podcast
http://nerdist.com/nerdist-podcast-live-at-sdcc-with-maisie-williams-tom-hiddleston-and-guillermo-del-toro/
Some more photos from TNM set
https://instagram.com/p/5pwQFyj3j-/
Indeed it is a PR mess. With JA after all, unless you were a fan or an ELLEUK's journalist, aside from Wimbledon's photo nothing else made it to the public, so he got away with only a couple of questions.
Now he has 3 films to promote, meaning a very long PR season, from sept. to March at least. He won't be able to elude questions. Whether this with EO was nothing more than friends hanging out or true love with no engagement overlapping, or just PR, only matters to his fans, to the general public what happened is that she was engaged, she made a film with TH, engagement was broken, TH and EO are dating with an Oscar-bait film, so add the PR element. The more they wait to address this, the worst is going to look.
I don't see CP, ISTL or HR in neither gala presentations and special presentations. Are there other categories?
http://tiff.net/festivals/festival15/films
Apparently, TIFF can and does add films throughout the time following the first announcement, so maybe it will show up.
>>240 That's what I've heard, can't confirm myself, but there's hope.
>>241 no you are right, it's been 2 years since I followed TIFF for OLLA and I didn't remember this detail. My "Hmm" was because if it's ok for a film like OLLA to not appear right away, it's odd for a supposedly Oscar contender like ISTL - HR I wasn't really expecting it, CP I'm sure it will appear later.
On an unrelated note: Apple Pie is back and very, very unhappy.
There is no way on the planet that this person knows Tom or is his neighbour without an intervention order being present.
Will anyone provide a quick summary of Apple Pie - like I said, I'm new.
"Fan" who tweeted that she knew for certain (possibly even bet her life) that Tom was not going out with Lizzie. When challenged, she shot back that she knew him and was a neighbour.
Turns out not to be true. S/he is now tweeting abuse about EO (predictable).
Just hope that this person has someone in his/her real life to ground her as life just is too short to be so invested in these almost fictional celebrities.
And why do YOU are so invested what THIS person tweets? And who she is? You never know.
I think that she often posts on other boards.
I do not know her, but I hope that she, in time, also moves on with her life.
Ah! and the tweets are protected again.
The Venice Film Festival announced its line-up, it's complete.
No HR, no ISTL, no CP, but I wasn't really expecting this last.
http://www.labiennale.org/en/cinema/
The NYFF also announced its opening, closing and and centrepice films.
http://www.filmlinc.org/nyff2015/daily/
(to avoid confusion, I added 1 to my user name, I'm the anonymous who generally posts the links, starts threads, asks the mods to delete posts and so on)
Yes, BFI we get it that HR will be at your festival. I was just hoping it will appear elsewhere before that. article at page 16