Thread to talk about actor Tom Hiddleston
Tom Hiddleston 1
http://4-ch.net/tv/kareha.pl/1382608996/
Tom Hiddleston 2
http://4-ch.net/tv/kareha.pl/1410345704/
>>49 "Tom Hiddleston and Elizabeth Olsen are going out with each other. They ask you to respect their privacy at this difficult time."
>>50 On one level it must be awful. But there are ways of managing it, like go to one of 20 amazing restaurants in London where there are no paps.
>>53 Which is one of the reasons I am not discounting the PR Relationship conspiracy theories. Neither of them is new to the business - especially not Elizabeth, her family has been in Hollywood for decades.
>>54 Somehow I don't get that with him. Nuffield summaries said he talked a lot about how Capt. Nicholls was the man he wanted to be: honourable, decent, truthful etc. To fake a relationship, in such embarrassing circumstances (implicated in breakup of engagement), doesn't seem his style.
>>51 ROFL
>>53 Also true. OTOH, maybe they 'needed' to make that outing as a way of showing that they're dating or smth. So yeah, PR.
I'm also wondering about the statement. Promo campaign for ISTL should be interesting.
On the other note, went to TH's tag on Tumblr out of curiosity, and wow, this woman takes it hard.
http://eve1978. tumblr.com/
Last comment before I go off and work for a living! I think it is a genuine romance between two not obviously compatible people, born out of an intense time working on ISTL. I expect it will last for a reasonable time because of their work patterns (absence makes the heart grow fonder...) and I also expect he will flog it to death because otherwise he is just the guy who gave the excuse to get out of a bad engagement, or the rebound guy.
>>56 see, this is what I don't get, Tom Mison is in no way as popular as Hiddleston, but when he got married he simply had his people make a statement. And Redmayne when he was papped out with his gf, well before they got engaged, never walked yards ahead falsely pretending not to be together.
If they are dating, then make a statement that says "we are dating and we'd like to keep it private", don't go to a famous celeb restaurant and then pretend to be annoyed by paps spotting you. If instead you are just friend, again make a statement, at least it won't seem like a PR move.
Seriously this is such a mess, there's no explanation that makes TH look good.
Btw, the walking way ahead of her reminded me of him and Sian.
And who was TH calling in the cab? there's a photo in the DM article, #7, where he is at the phone, was he calling Luke to say "mission accomplished"?
I bet a lot of fans are now gathering around his house and cafè.
Let me clarify that I'm not saying that they should make a statement because the owe fans or people an explanation, but because the situation is putting them both under a bad light.
I read there were tweets about them being in the restaurant, has anyone read them?
>>56 Although I don't believe the whole relationship is a PR fabrication, I can well believe this outing was intended to get the news out there. But as with everything about his previous relationship, so badly managed. She must have had 200 times this much flash in her face at the Oscars and she didn't need a bag on her head then (and nb he looks fine, if annoyed). It feels off. Look at me/don't look at me.
I hope lurking Luke isn't getting a 5% cut of TH income for this craptastic performance!
Maybe EO read that TH always brought his former ladies to tennis matches and fancy places and here she was, robbed of a Wimbledon appearance, always eating at Ginger&White and The Hills. She might have ask for an upgrade to their dating routine.
TH's shoes are atrocious, so worn out at this point it's a wonder they don't fall apart.
http://ww3.sinaimg.cn/bmiddle/6e14d388gw1eudptngq5dj21kw2yte7i.jpg
Link to those photos >>43 mentioned.
http://weibo.com/1846858632/Csz9x2BUu?from=page_1005051846858632_profile&wvr=6&mod=weibotime
compare to these
http://t-hiddleston.org/photos/thumbnails.php?album=201
Just one thing: in February they spent their birthdays apart. She was with some friends (there is a tweet with a picture of her with a cake) And Tom was a some BFI private event
Tom wasn't working at time. FYI
>>71 Was she in London when she celebrated her bd? Because according to the nw3anon and her crew of neighbours, she was hanging out with him when she was in London in February and maybe they had a private celebration, or maybe not. After even now, he went to Wimbledon she had dinner with other actors.
>>72 I posted about this on the last board. NW3 claimed in May 2015 after the first rumours or a relationship that she had seen him with EO in January and that she had posted about it. Maybe she did see him with her at the time and subsequently realised who it was, but at the time neither she nor anyone else mentioned it IIRC. I discovered that blog a few days after it started and watched as the story grew (how she knew him, had met his mother, sister etc). EO's name was never mentioned, and this was at a time when she was posting on a daily basis that she had seen him, of he was out running or whatever.
Honestly though, I still don't know about these 2. But I admit to having problems finding sense in what TH does - obviously because I don't have all the facts - so I don't expect to find it here. I mean, what was the sense of being all chummy with an acting school friend (Sian) and then all of a sudden it's like she doesn't exist. What's the sense of inviting someone to a holiday in a tropical island and after 1 week she is out of his life?
>>72 https://twitter. com/ColbertMD/status/567771340779061248?s=09
New York maybe
>>73 thanks, I missed those posts in January, and only read the ones in May reporting the "supposed" sightings. See what I mean, no sense at all.
Cake https://twitter. com/ElizabethOlsenn/status/569314709398294529?s=09
Definitely not very loved up back then.
And then he left for TNM, so this is likely the first time they met after the shooting ended. I really don't know.
They may have celebrated their birthdays together in advance? According to alleged neighbours, EO stayed in London with TH for 2 weeks.
Here are a few NW3 anon asks that I saved :
From February :
"Anonymous: I thought the speculation was about Tom and Elizabeth Olsen, who was in London over weekend."
eyeroll I just.... sigh
Feb 5th, 2015
thesnowbunnyanon said: "They don't all come and stay with him for the weekend in London though do they" --- what does this even mean? Are they eluding to Elisabeth Olsen? facepalm Any spark to start a fire eh?
Feb 5th, 2015
From May :
"Anonymous asked: E Olsen did stay with him in London over a couple of weekends, end January, beginning of February."
That she did. I’m not neither confirming or denying anything
May 7th, 2015
I refreshed my memory using (ugh) the bycycle site - she reblogged a lot of nw3. She records on 6 Feb that TH was spotted with a brunette with blonde highlights in the last few days and that EO had been in London "recently". Other posts show they all knew that EO had broken off her engagement and were speculating as the cause and yet nobody seems to have been able to go the extra mile and confirm that the person seen with him was EO. They all thought it was JA!!
http://thetownbycycle. tumblr.com/post/110294438087/hi-toby-just-a-question-about-elizabeth-olsen-and
http://thetownbycycle. tumblr.com/post/109139192752/so-th-was-having-coffee-with-ja-this-morning
>>79 But I interpret the response to those first 2 asks as nw3 dismissing the rumours that EO must have stayed with TH because she had been seen in London ("eyeroll I just...sigh" "facepalm Any spark to start a fire").
There is no actual post saying in January/Feb that TH and EO were seen together. They were all looking for it and nobody saw it.
Then - surprise! - the day after the US Weekly article appeared, she says "that she did [stay with TH]. I'm not confirming or denying anything"
!!!!!!
>>79 from the nw3 response in February it seems like she was denying it. Then in May she kept it vague.
EO was in Paris on Jan 27th, but she arrived earlier via jet because she attended Dior fashion show, that was on the 26th.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz/article-2927689/Elizabeth-Olsen-goes-without-ring-Paris-Fashion-Week-ending-ten-month-engagement.html
http://www.vogue.com/8971565/elizabeth-olsen-christian-dior-couture-photo-diary/
On Jan 30th she was still in Paris, she attended a Gala, so no she can't have spent any weekend with TH in January.
http://www.justjared.com/photo-gallery/3291867/elizabeth-olsen-joins-dita-von-teese-conchita-wurst-at-sidaction-gala-01/
On Jan 31st EO was still in Paris.
www.peoplestylewatch.com/people/stylewatch/gallery/0,,20896637_30290842,00.html
Nope. Those events happened on January 27 & 29 :
http://lizzie-olsen.com/photo/thumbnails.php?album=397
http://lizzie-olsen.com/photo/thumbnails.php?album=398
I can't seem to find any article about her in February before she was back to NY for her birthday.
But I'll say this, she leads a life that is the complete opposite of TH's. She clearly likes the spotlight even when outside the red carpet.
>>84 yeah, but do you see her, jumping on a plane right after an event? she was nowhere near London in January.
Those events were in Paris. She could have easily jumped onto the eurostar on January 30.
The "brunette with blonde highlights" sighting seems to have been on 25.01 (and some people thought it was Kat Dennings!). It could I suppose have been EO if she went to London before heading on to Paris. After 25.01 and in early feb I don't see from the bycycle any mentions of him with EO or anyone.
He went to Bafta dinner on 4.02.15 and on weekend of 7/8 Feb he was seen in Suffolk (twitter I think - which I can't find but I remember thinking it was sad that even in a little seaside town he can't get away from it all).
>>88 I think that sighting might have been from a troll, to spark speculations about JA again
>>87 An American celeb on a train? I'm not saying she wasn't in London afterwards, I'm saying she didn't spent a weekend in January.
>>88 I quite agree it could have been trolling.
But I come back to my point that it was that sighting that made people (not the original posters who claimed to have seen the woman) speculate a few days later that it could have been EO because she had been in London.
If that sighting was a troll post then there is no evidence that she stayed in London with him whatever the timing of her visit to Paris.
And look what happened when several people started saying with confidence that they saw EO with TH over the last week in London. It didn't take long for toby to goad them and for a pic to surface. Had she been staying in London with him in January and had anyone said at the time yes I saw them someone would have asked for a pic and it would have got taken.
Does anyone have the tweets from other diners in the Wolseley? Someone said there were some, but I haven't seen them. Thanks.
http://london-anon.tumblr.com/post/118373221131/nw3anon-eo-anons-pt-5-some-of-the-comments
http://pixie-dust-anon.tumblr.com/post/118360484118/nw3anon-eo-anons-pt3-why-is-it-so-hard-to
I also remember in pt 1,2 or 4 London-anon saying that back at the end of January/February she saw them at local haunts.
But all these are from May, browsed some of the nw3 bffs blogs but I couldn't find posts from January or february discussing EO presence in the are. I leave it to someone else with more patience and disposition. Anyway, this is just to chat, in the end what matters is what's happening now.
Yes, they all came out of the woodwork in May, saying they saw her in January! I guess we have been talking about it because it might suggest they were more serious early on.
>>94 I know, sorry, I didn't want to sound like there was no point to it, bad choice of words on my side. I just meant that we have no way of finding any more sources so we are left with the doubt of whether this July outing is the first they have seen of each other or not.
Well hey maybe they did meet up in January! Says they met up after she finished Paris fashion week. Depends on whether they mean her trip to Paris a few weeks ago or in January.
All from her I notice. Isn't US weekly her news organ of choice?
>>97 I'm pretty sure they refer to the recent one.
>>98 so I read, in fact the bit about the broken engagement is at the very end of the article, let's avoid people noticing the obvious overlapping.
of course it's worth remembering that TH is the guy that months after Wimbledon+JA, still declared he was single, dating is a long process for him. I wait for another "nothing home to write about" and then off to a tropical island. Isn't Kong happening in Hawaii ;)
>>98 was it always us weekly that said TH was a decoy for CE?
>>102 The Chris Evans story came from the Enquirer. I suppose if TH and EO weren't or aren't too serious, there could still be some truth to CE and EO having a little on set romance.
>>101 Haha true. Funny how the Us article "sources" say they're "hooking up" but that they also "really care for each other" so it doesn't seem like a FWB situation, but make sure to add it's still "not a large commitment." Basically it's the relationship that is whatever anyone wants to think it is. They're dating! But it's not serious. They're hooking up! But they do care about each other. People who want them to be together can focus on the dating and the caring, and people who don't like them together can focus on the hooking up and the non-commitment. Convenient.
This all feels so off to me.
>>103 I agree, that's why I keep saying that I don't know about these two. It's difficult enough to tell with TH, but this is a real mess. And what's funny is that with JA he should have kept his mouth shut, without his interviews we would have seen the video, the Tahiti photos and thought "oh they are still dating" and then "oh she disappeared after Tahiti" - entertaining to comment as it was. And now, when he should speak he is keeping quiet.
And boy, they look pissed here!
http://assets-s3.usmagazine.com/uploads/assets/article_photos/Elizabeth-Olsen-Tom-Hiddleston-car-072415.jpg
Does anyone else wonder what they talk about on these long phone calls? He is unusually cerebral for a sleb. I am not saying she is stupid - she's clearly a good businesswoman - but book learnin' is a different kind of smart. Does she get really bored waiting for him to stop going on about Shakespeare and the gothic novel so they can get down to it?
>>106 Shame on you for not reading properly, "They've been talking constantly" constantly, you see, who had the time to get down to it? haha
She probably fell asleep waiting.
Seriously though, is this some kind of Pygmalion thing? I've read interviews and I don't see much crossover.
>>106 I know I would.
Well, he was engaged to Susannah, meaning it was quite serious. Was she on the same level intellectually as he? That's an honest question cause I don't know. Did not get that vibe from her though.
Not saying it's all that serious with EO :)
Were he and SF engaged?
>>111 I thought she was his fiancee, no? Maybe I am mistaken, my bad then.
No they weren't, but he was constantly talking about her and seemed to be very happy with her at least on photos.
But I am not really talking about intellectual levels - one person being thick and another person being clever - more about being fundamentally different. Assuming both are similar in private to how they are in public I just cannot in a million years imagine her wanting to listen to him droning on about poetry or having anything to say in return. And we know how much he knows about one of her passions, fashion (!!).
I miss happy Hiddleston with SF. I wasn't even following him back then, but he always looked happy and genuine.
>>115 Me too. Compare them to his sour expression yesterday. Even the superfans on celebitchy are asking why he didn't stand there smiling with his arm round his girl.
She is 26?! I thought she was his age, ehm talk about differences.
Out of curiosity I googled EO and her former fiancé, really her behaviour last night was so fake. there are so many pap photos of her with him and she never covered her face.
>>114 Maybe she will do a fashion Pygmalion on him and make him throw away these boots, which he seems determined to wear until they decompose.
Yes, you're right, I've chosen bad wording when I referred to the intellect. Still, his other GFs (that we know of) also did not strike me as those poetic, philosophical, thoughtful thinkers and conversationalists - i.e. his kind of smart. Maybe that's not what he's looking for in his GF. Or at least not the most important thing. IDK.
>>118 lol. Did she tear the plastic watch off him I wonder?
>117 Yes - different continent, different age, different intellectual interests. What they have in common is Marvwl, ISTL and being cute and famous.
and here is the oddest photo of all - from last night (same outfit) and can't have been on the way out to the theatre as it's dark. Getting into (?) his Jag as passenger looking thoroughly browned off. Where is he going? I can't parse this. It is all too weird.
>>120 After the compulsory PR stunt with EO he's finally free and heading to his true love - JA.
Eh, I probably shouldn't have drank all this wine.
>>120 I told you EO had her wallet in her hands on the cab. She paid her ride back to her hotel and he went back home from there.
She was in London while he was at SDCC, so she had to be staying in a hotel.
>>122 All that stress and no sexy time. That explains the expression. If they have been seeing each other since ISTL wouldn't he let her stay at his place even if he had to go off for a few days in the middle? Now even I smell a rat about this.
>>124 and since he is getting on as a passenger, when he was at the phone in the taxi he was very likely calling faisal to tell him to pick him up.
Here's a thought, in the video 2 cabs arrive, so it's possible they were leaving to go their separate ways, but then EO found a pap in her cab and they found themselves on the same taxi, and that's why he called for his jag.
btw, JA living just beside him and in front of G&W probably saw them together way before all of us. I say she was the bycycle's source haha
I watched the video and tbh I got a one that he can't care less a out her. The way he looked at her, while catching the cabs and turned away and then growled "come on" (I was expecting him to add "you fucker" lol so harsh was his voice) didn't leave a one of love - no, any affection there. And yes, they were leaving in separate cabs, but then SHE changed her mind and ran after him. Gals,it's her PR, now I can bet my life on it, and while he tried to pull it friendly, she tries all the time to make people believe it's something more. Tom was clearly getting into his cab when she ran o Dr, he just opened the door for her and even dint help her. Lol, poor PR, Olsen, you know, we have eyes too.
>>128 I didn't see that video this way. He didn't growl and IDK why there were two cabs, maybe they were planning to leave separately, but then she saw a pap and went with him, or maybe they were leaving together and then both saw a pap in the first cab and went for another one. It's not clear, but a got the impression that they were both near the 1st cab, she was beginning to step into it, but then for some reason he directs her/says to her to go to the 2nd one and then she goes after him.
As for not helping her - well, was he supposed to carry her into that cab bridal style to show his true feelings? I mean, yeah, they sure look pissed, but I don't think it indicates his hate for her. If it's PR, he's definitely on it.
I don't agree with you. I say what I see and I see that he is passed off with her and he does growl at her, just listen and watch carefully. Thats all what I say and I'm not trying to see things that don't exist.
And I'm surprised that everyone so easily believes they are dating. They don't have a vibe of people who are attracted to each other in romantically way, they just look to be good friends. That's all. If there is someone who wants to pass this for something more, it's Elizabeth Olsen herself, since its very clear that it's her, very American, or. You have to blind not to see it.
Sorry for mistypes, stupid phone thinks it knows better what I'm trying to say.
>>130 I guess we'll have to agree to disagree on that one. I see no point in arguing because this whole thing is obviously based on a very subjective perception.
And, umm, I would refrain from calling people blind because they don't agree with your opinion. Not a good argument.
Well you can't see if he directs her or calls her, it's not in the video. And I too can hear him saying COME ON and being rather kissed of at her actions, so it's not that subjective.
I guess some people just want them to be together that's all. I don't see any romance between them, and it's not necessarily that he has to carry her, it's just the way he treats her. No love vibe, and totally no love doves.
Have no idea where my Twitter nickname came from, sorry!
Pretty sure he says "Lizzie" and she answers "Yeah" but hey, you wanna hear what you want * shrugs *
No, he even doesn't say her name.
Same applies to those who want them to date.
I thought there was a simpler explanation for her getting in the wrong cab. I assumed he called one on Hailo, hence was looking at his phone while waiting as it tells you the reg no and how close it is. Then he saw it had arrived, called her over, and she got into the wrong one. He tells her no it is this one and off they go. Surprisingly to my mind Torrilla pic suggests the cab took her to ? her hotel and he then got a private car home; I'd have assumed without that pic that the cab took them both to his home.
What I hear is:
T: Lizzie
E: Yeah
T: Car's here.
A fairly normal exchange given what was going on. Who knows what the deal with the two taxis is?! They just wanted to get into a taxi and get out of there.
>>137 Yes, very logical, I can see this version. I am not a Londoner so I don't know the specifics, but it crossed my mind that it could be just a mix with the cabs. You know, when several people call several cabs at a popular location at the same time and then there's a confusion which cab arrived for whom.
That photo of him getting into a car is indeed interesting. I was pretty sure that they were dating/hooking up/FWBing or whatever, maybe including nice simultaneous benefits of PR for ISTL. Now I don't know. I guess, even if he left her at the hotel it doesn't exclude the possibility of them having a fling, even if they did not spend that particular night together, although it is strange. Time will probably tell.
Oh, and I couldn't care less if they're dating or not. I obviously like him, but I'm here just for fun, gossip and interesting speculation :)
My theory is that they had a little something while on set - full blown sexual relationship, maybe; flirtation/ connection, absolutely. Whatever it was likely contributed to the breakdown of EO's engagement, not caused, just contributed. And no judgments - this happens sometimes.
Now they are trying to see if whatever they had while on set can grow/ be maintained in a very different environment, i.e., one where they aren't together all the time and aren't playing the very emotionally charged roles of husband and wife. I think they are spending as much time together as their schedules allow - those weekends in Jan/Feb and now - to A. Enjoy each other's company, and B. See if they can make a go of a relationship as busy actors.
Just my theory.
>>139 You can set Hailo to pay automatically by credit card so you want to make sure you and not someone else is in your cab!
I don't care either who he is seeing. I like the work and find him interesting and alas am unable to look away from the car crash that is his romantic life as played out through his PR. An object lesson in how not to do it in my view. I also find interesting that odd place he occupies between tumblr/celebitchy obsessives, where he is king, and the real world where he is far from a household name. A career that could only exist in this decade. That makes PR surrounding his romantic life all the more tricky as all these 18yo girls really do care if he was screwing an engaged woman. I'm old enough to think that life is complicated and it's maybe better not to end up married to the wrong person.
Well I made several people watch that video and they all agree with me. I rewatched it on full sound and I simply can't ear things you do. So ten people can't be deaf, it clearly as I said.
I agree thy might have had one fling, but now it's clearly a cozy friendly relationship between two friends. Peiod.
They might have decided to go their separate ways - just for the night, not forever - in the cab. I do think they are in a real relationship of some sort or trying to be in one.
I mean, that pap experience isn't exactly the perfect segue into a romantic night back at his! Unless they're both giant masochists.
>>141 And a car crash it is! Which makes him even more interesting in my eyes :)
Agree, I'm also not the one to throw stones. Life is unpredictable and shit happens.
Since there seems to be new posters here, I take the occasion to remind everyone that while anonymous this site has mods.
>>142 Lex as a habit here we don't really argue, we all express an opinion, and if someone has something to object, comment or add they do so, but not to the point were you need the other person to forcibly agree with you. Nobody has to agree, or disagree with anyone else.
The world doesn't end if one's opinion are wrong, no one gets points if they are right. It's all just a chat, so if you think that's what happens fine, qaz think differently that is also fine.
>>146 he was about to squeeze his eyes, wasn't he? Her face is precious.
I confess I didn't even noticed they talked, busy as I was at watching everything else :)
About the taxi, before the photo of his jag, I thought that cab was for someone else and EO just headed the wrong way, but if that taxi was for someone else where are the people that called it? So it could be either way, the real interesting thing is the jag photo that of course, because it says she is staying in hotel not at his place. Not that that rules out a relationship. it's just a nice detail for our guesswork.
I guess what happens next is what will tell us.
If they are seen together again, pap date or not, before red carpets, or on the red carpet they behave as a couple, then we'll our confirmation.
If they are not seen together, there's no statement confirming a relation and on the red carpet they behave just friendly, then we might declare this pap incident as EO trying to pull a JA by using her PR instead of social networks.
