Thread to talk about the actor Tom Hiddleston
The dailymail has reprinted the pic of Tom laughing with the blonde fan outside of The Brunch & Co. coffee shop in Australia from last week, along with his pics with Priyanka from Emmy night and suggesting their after party flirtation, to frame him as some sort of lothario. The dailymail just wants clicks, or Luke and Co are just throwing anything up at the wall to see what sticks, to get out from under the TS Summer drama.
Filling that Blank Space? Tom Hiddleston turns on the charm while chatting with pretty blonde... just a week after Taylor Swift split
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>>750 His US Agent is, or was, WME (Willam Morris Endeavor). They signed him in October 2011. Before that it was IME.
The last time I checked over to his IMDBPro site (which is partially blocked for me by a popup since I'm not a Pro subscriber), it listed his UK/US management (Hamilton Hodell) and WME for his US agents.
Now both are blocked for non-Pro lurkers. Anyone here have a subscription so we can verify?
Back on Mystery Man again, I've looked at some more photos from different angles and I think he may indeed be Jon Rubinstein after all. Ignoring the hair and beard and looking at facial features, bone structure, and especially the ears, I'm about 95% sure it's him.
>>755 It's such a shame the only available reference photos are completely hairless but there's been a remarkable transformation if it is the same man. I too see similarities in his face shape and obviously it makes the most sense if it is him. It's logical that micromanaging stepped in during SDCC and has not left his side for one second since.
In the time between his managers last official press shot he has had the 'stein' chiselled off his nose and his hairline sewn back in- all very plausible in the world of Hollyweird I guess.
>>755 it does, now that I found a picture of him without beard.
>>756 lol! I just caught what you said at the end lol I don't think it's Jon Rubinstein though. The noses are completely different though like Anonon said he could've gotten a nose job but I dunno. There's also the difference in the length of the face.
The more probable explanation is that it's probably a junior manager who works under Jon Rubinstein who's been tasked with keeping Tom's affairs in order. It makes sense since Rubinstein owns Authentic Mgmt and probably has to oversee everything.
Hang onto your hats for another desperate Oscar-grabbing publicity tour for ISTL. There was an "actors only" screening last night at which TH did a q&a. This lady has lots of tweets:
.com/the26thman/status/778084749457915904
>>755,756 The Jon Rubinstein you are talking about is this one https://www.linkedin.com/in/jonrubinstein and this one http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/news/authentic-sells-scripted-tv-series-848957 ? Yes, I agree with anonsy, the ears are the same.
>>759 Yes, there was an article a few weeks ago saying that SPC was going to promote its films for the Oscars, among them ISTL.
The video of the Q&A https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LZw_pLf1DNU
the article I was talking about
http://deadline.com/2016/08/oscars-miles-ahead-maggies-plan-first-2016-awards-screeners-1201810642/
>>760 It is easier to see the similarity from the 6,000 year old LinkedIn photo.
Here is a question: how many hangers on does TH now have?
Agent, UK & US (least hanger on like and most useful).
Luke
US publicist (identity?)
Manager
Stylist (shudder)
Olly
Other styling hangers on (has he had a "groomer"?)
He's headed back to Australia:
https://www.instagram.com/p/BKkHV7BgNMX
That same instagram account also has a clip from the ISTL Q&A that I did not listen to.
>>762 I laughed when I read that Rubinstein's management company is called Authentic Talent and Literary Management, no wonder TH signed up with them, he is so authentic! But they are based in Brooklyn, was TH anywhere near them when he was in NY in June and then in July? Can we infer that him acquiring a second agent in the US means he can't find scripts?
There was also a make-up artist in the US, that was actually good, and the bodyguard/driver in the UK.
>>764 Thank you, because I almost thought of making the sacrifice of watching the over 20 minutes q&a, now I'll pass.
>>683 Re: trying to decipher his private IG - Anonon and I have different guesses. The one I'm looking at has a lot of the right people behind the scenes but it has a few verified accounts like they don't want to have to switch accounts just to look?
Anonon is your guess account still looking like it's Tom's private? Does it have any verified accounts?
As for his private Facebook, I haven't bothered to try to look. It's sad that almost 3 years ago, somewhere on FB or Twitter maybe, when I was newer to TH, someone posted a link to Sarah's husband's FB account to a picture of her, him, and their daughter. The account name was his company's name, but he seemed to be treating it like a personal but not private account. I don't recall the company name.
Meant to say that what is sad is that I can't recall the company name so I can't look up the account. My guess was that maybe he friended Tom's private FB account..
>>768 you can try the older threads, I think I posted the link to that photo last year.
The only thing I don't quite understand of Rubenstein is his presence in OZ. His company doesn't about PR so I can't find a reason for him to be there or at SDCC.
Anyway, this is their website http://www.authenticm.com/
>>768 I don't think I'll ever know unless we become friends and I will never send a request.
There is no way to see who the account follows, verified or not. That is the nature of private accounts from my experience. All you can see is the name of the account, their profile pic if they have one, the number of posts and the number of people they follow. JArthy's account, for instance is also on total lockdown.
It could possibly belong to an incredibly well researched fan who poses as TH and befriends cast and crew members but as I mentioned the cast and crew are following back when they don't follow any other fan accounts.
It's not used for posting photos- that number never changes so I think he must have another very private personal account.
I never bothered to trawl through any of TS's friends massive accounts to see if they followed and after the summer of stunts I haven't bothered to check on Thor cast and crew follows either.
I just occasionally look at the numbers and couldn't help noticing the uncharacteristic unfollows at all the right times.
I'm happy to post the name as long as those crazy lurkers PROMISE they won't do anything stupid like send a friend request...
>>771 The only frame of reference I have for that is the show Entourage, which is heavily influenced by the life of Mark Wahlberg.
His best friend is his manager and 'manages' him constantly and his agent and whole team step up the nannying whenever he does bad things that require fixing.
TH has done some rather questionable things this summer (and possibly run rogue of all his handlers). It has no doubt been decided he requires a permanent chaperone until he finds his feet again.
>>772 I kind of assumed that TH would have a private IG if he had one, not a public one under a pseudonym. That and the never posting any pics part makes me think Anonon might have the right account. Also it would seem to me that there is no point having a fan account if you keep it private, so it doesn't sound like a fan account.
Are there follows from crew and creatives from more than one of TH's projects?That would seem to rule out it being a particularly private crew member from one project being followed by other crew members from that project. Too much of a coincidence.
>>774 No the name is a dead giveaway it's either him or a fan pretending to be him. He's never been imaginative with his account names.
I doubt a fan would be able to maintain the ruse with close colleagues for such a long time either.
>>775 What is it? If you don't want to post the name, give me a good hint or point me in the right direction.
>>776 Have a look at his initials plus a number, no picture, very British emoji
>>777 I think I find it, just tell me if the numbers of post/follower/following are correct: 32/25/366
https://www.linkedin.com/in/sean-elliott-88136924
Mystery Man!
New Anon was right, he is an underling from the West Coast office who has not had a Hollyweird makeover
>>780 I was just about to post, I haven't found the possible Tom IG but I did find Jon Rubinstein's IG and his recent photos show him with no hair and no beard.
>>780 He apparently runs the LA division of Authentic and also manages Brie Larson.
>>780 at least we got the company right!
>>778 Damn - I still can't find it. Maybe I am being too obvious!
>>784 I haven't found it either. There is one account I did find that only has four photos of birds and kittens. I'm going to pretend that's his.
>>784,785 think simple, all of his initials and two numbers, the first two numbers you would associate with him.
>>786 Got it now. I'd have thought the numbers would have been in reverse.
>>785,787 Still nope. I thought I was being obvious. The only number I associate with him is a 4 digit one but his initials and that number bring up nothing (well they bring up an actual fan account)
>>787 Remember that with private accounts the only ones who have access to their photos or activity are the followers. That will be only his most loyal and trusted friends.
I can't remember now but I think it jumped around 6 extra followers at the beginning of summer and dropped most of them in stages after SDCC.
The larger number he is following will be those he is interested in stalking- acquaintances and work colleagues. That number has also increased and then decreased this summer.
>>788 Three initials, two letters, no spaces
>>789 Still nope. Two letters? I thought it was numbers. I must be on completely the wrong track. Never mind.
>>790 Yes, it's 2 numbers Anon. Ok, let's see if I can help you. Initials, that's easy. The other two, your hint would be an ID, the first 2 field, without zeros.
>>792 hahaha we are so covert we should be spies.
Yay! Found it! >>775 You're right. He really isn't very imaginative with the name. Maybe he really is very naive lol
OT The second greatest couple of our times has just split.
T I could see TH swooping in.
>>797 I'm more shocked about the reason for the split than the split.
TH will stay single until next summer. I think Luke put him on probation.
>>797 Huh? Let me look at the news.
Ha, the gossip rags have been hinting about this for months.
>>798 That we know of. With one very obvious exception, boy likes to keep it on the DL.
Um, not to throw a spanner in, but I'm not sold on Mystery Man being the guy mentioned in >>780.
Mystery Man in the capture from last night has got some pretty sticky-out ears. http://4-ch.net/img/src/1474406695770.png Authentic Talent guy doesn't.
>>797,798,799 I'm really worried (I'm not) that UsWeekly is already writing an article with the lines: 'When he heard about the divorce, he sent Angie flowers and called her the very next day. Tom's so ready to be a step-dad.'
>>795 Thank you! That was about the only combination I hadn't tried!
Only thing that makes me wonder - as anonsy said - is the order. It would be very unusual for a British person to put them that way round. It is really deeply ingrained that we don't do it. Maybe it was because he has spent a lot of time in America recently. IDK.
OT: Brad and Ange. Wow. I hadn't kept up so I didn't see that one coming. They must have been delighted about the summer of TayTo as it took a lot of people's eyes off them in the months leading up to the announcement. I am not hugely surprised at the reason - after all that was how he entered the marriage.
>>803 I wondering about the date as well. Perhaps 81 and 92 - were already taken. I also wonder at the little crown. Would he do that? Isn't that an emoji put into the description line - he's only recently started to use them, probably after Gigi Hadid gave him a lesson.
>>803 re: the order of the numbers - maybe it was to through people off, as in 'a British person would never us 29 so it can't be him'
>>801 Yeah, I'm with you. Mystery Man is not this guy either. I was watching some clips of Tom at Emmy's and arriving at the after parties, and Mystery Man is an entirely different guy. I still think he's a junior manager that Rubinstein has tasked with babysitting Tom for the time being so he can fly everywhere with him. But otherwise Jon Rubinstein is Tom's official main manager it seems since it's his name that shows up when you look up info on Team Tom.
>>801,806 Hmm Mystery Man is perplexing.
He seems to be a man who's very comfortable with his shameful beard whereas both men we have considered prefer to be cleanshaven.
I'm going to look in hairier pastures from now on.
>>804 As much of a luddite he seems to be, TH would have been subjected to barrages of emojis through our darling JArthy and friends. They replace as many words with pictures as humanly possible.
Think she just posted the pic late or did Hiddlepiddle lie again about leaving for Aus when he wasn't? I don't know why he'd lie to that one lady, he seemed to know her personally.
https://www.instagram.com/p/BKmGSq8AMSf/
>>808 She posted some of her photos from Emmys night the day after, so I'm thinking it's just a late post. You're right, he did seem to know that woman from the screening personally and he even told her exactly when his flight was leaving.
Jimmy Kimmel just bashed TS and Tom, by saying that since Brangelina split, they should be thankful that they won't have to be on the covers of all of the tabloids anymore. Where was this joke during the Emmy telecast?!
>>803,804 The crown is perplexing, he doesn't seem to be such a Royalist (does this word exist?), but maybe he thought it was a good way to indicate his location without writing London UK?
>>801,806,807 The only sure thing is the company and that Rubinstein is completely shaved, on his instagram he posted photos of his trip to Japan 2 weeks ago, no hair or beard. So either Authentic has a thing for employing people who all look like each other, or this guy has nothing to do with Authentic, in which case I go back to think it's his new bodyguard and that would explain his presence in OZ. If Beardy follows TH back to London we'll know for sure.
"Star Tom Hiddleston, who lost to Courtney B. Vance’s Johnnie Cochran, said the highlight of his night was being able to open the envelope and announce his director Bier as the winner in her category. She too was absolutely beaming at the Governors Ball before rushing off to AMC’s party. Hiddleston, by the way, is staying in town to do a special screening and Q&A for the SAG Nominating Committee tonight that I will be moderating for his terrific performance as country legend Hank Williams in I Saw The Light, which Sony Pictures Classics released earlier this year. Once awards season ends with his first Emmy nomination, another begins with hopefully some remembrance of his remarkable work as Williams. Sony Classics certainly hopes so; the distributor will be campaigning it." http://deadline.com/2016/09/emmy-awards-winners-and-losers-celebrate-into-the-wee-hours-what-you-didnt-see-on-tv-1201822521/
Q&A with Taika Waititi
http://spy.nzherald.co.nz/spy-news/would-taika-shag-marry-or-kill-thor/
"How far are you in filming Thor: Ragnarok?
We are 12 weeks in and have about 6 weeks left. It’s going great but I’m tired."
>>800 Pretending to be on the DL at least, but I think he always attempted to make it public somehow, BoraBora was exemplary in that, or Papnight. I think his next will probably be a mix of the previous pretension of privacy with some very public events, because these last are the ones that bring publicity.
>>815 I always thought Bora Bora was JArthy's revenge after he tried to shove her back in the closet after Wimbledon.
I think you are right though that we can now see a pattern of revealing then hiding. He teases us with Wimbledon or Pursegate, and then having whipped up a media frenzy zips his head back into his shell.
I also think Anon is totally right and that there is a lot more going on in his love life that we never see at all. A totally private series of encounters with civilians that he keeps completely private.
Mystery Man solved! His name is Brandon Liebman. Talent agent for WME.
https://www.instagram.com/brandoliebman/
http://variety.com/2011/scene/people-news/fast-rising-tenpercenters-1118043820/#Liebman
>>817 What is it with these hipster beards? Why do men grow them?
PS good spot.
PS2 now I feel like TH Wwoiod have been better going to the Emmys with TS - at least he would have had a proper date.
>>818 Thanks. I basically googled everyone on Team Tom and found a hit lol
Wonder what his talent agent is doing traveling with him like this? Don't talent managers usually do things like this and not agents? Maybe him and Taylor were actually a full blow showmance contract then.
>>819 I have to say I have always been bemused by what a "manager" does in this context. Agent I can see, publicist just about (though I read in the context of the Brangelina divorce that AJ hasn't got one, or seemingly anyone else in her teeny entourage except her agent and her lawyer. Which makes me think that a B list star like TH could possibly, just possibly, manage with a smaller crew). What does a manager do? What is there to "manage" if you have a publicist, an agent and a PA?
>>820 Great question. Everything I've read on agent vs. manager makes it out to be that a manager is an extra suit to find work and negotiate contracts. Used to be a time where the agent did that, and creative agencies had lawyers on staff. Apparently that's changed because an agent has may have as many as 150 clients, while a manager has at most 20-25 and can give more person attention.
Personally, I think managers handle things that weren't as prominent 30 years ago, like endorsements, appearances on talk shows and reality shows, anything where you meet fans (conventions, meet & greets), and nowadays, navigating social media more personally. And, being a fixer. The Ray Donovans of showbiz.
>>820 This one is interesting:
https://www.sagaftra.org/content/agents-and-managers
So both Tom and Priyanka Chopra are represented by WME. If these two become a couple, I'm calling Operation Damage Control. It's too obvious.
>>820,821 Do managers have areas of expertise? Managing showmances (let's say), managing showmances gone horribly wrong. It's not for nothing - as has been mentioned by several here - that Beardy showed up post-TapeGate, i.e., when the shit really hit the fan in Tayto Land. Perhaps Beardy is WME's Showmance Whisperer.
>>824 It would be a poor decision. The best damage control for Tom right now would be to lay low for a while and keep his love life out of the public eye. I think the flirting article was either E! making up a story about "Taylor's ex" to get clicks, or a plant from Tom's team to combat the "Tom is sad and humiliated" tabloid stories. The fact that they are represented my the same agency makes me lean towards the latter, as it got both of their names (and multiple photos of her dress-twirling) in the press. I don't see it going any further than that, though.
Of course I also thought the idea Tayto was completely laughable and would never happen, and look where that went. I'd like to think Tom has learned some kind of lesson from this summer, so hopefully I'm right on this one.
>>824 I would hope he's learned his lesson (and a painful one at that) in regards to fauxmancing: Let the work be the public face, keep the private life as private as possible. You know, 'sacred' maybe!
Now if he could only learn the same lesson with his groomer and stylist - a painful lesson to make him change his ways, a Claire Danes level lesson.
>>825 I've always assumed the Beard is a nanny who chaperones naughty children. A Mr Fixit.
Surely the irony of referencing his permanent man- date as 'The Beard' is not lost on anyone..
>>827 Remember before TayTo, during the US promo tour, TH suddenly had a all the flashy suits. He hired the top stylist and makeup artist and plugged himself harder than ever. He was omnipresent.
This was the year TH was supposed to happen and he donated his left kidney, dignity and crucial hairline desperately trying to make it.
http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/news/amc-ceo-jokes-hiddleswift-conveniently-931614
'Josh Sapan made a few bemused remarks referencing Tom Hiddleston and Taylor Swift's brief relationship.
Speaking to investors in New York on Wednesday, AMC Networks CEO Josh Sapan made several pithy comments about how the short-lived love affair between Tom Hiddleston and Taylor Swift was "conveniently" timed to the airing of AMC's limited series The Night Manager, which starred Hiddleston.
"They conveniently waited to break up till the end of The Night Manager," he said, bemused.
While formally attributing the good timing to "serendipity," Sapan was clearly pleased with the coincidence, mentioning it at least twice during his question-and-answer session with the Goldman Sach rep.
The Night Manager performed "spectacularly" in delayed viewing, Sapan said
http://bgrated.com/home/casting-call-kong-skull-island-nyc-casting-call-for-a-bar-scene/
SI casting for a bar scene shoot in NY this coming Sunday.
That is not a particularly good sign they are reshooting.
Has TH told another little white lie about racing back to Oz?
It's an ensemble cast so he may not be needed but history tells us he fibs.
>>829 Always a good sign when the CEO of the network airing your latest and greatest oeuvre cracks light at your showmance. :/
>>830 Well, I guess it is only September and it's not meant to hit theatres until March, but The Peanut (as Anon unaffectionately calls him) flew that cast and crew to three continents over about six months, so it can't be a promising sign that they still need more material.
Where would they be in the process? Editing? Testing with audiences? Where are they that they've discovered some patches need to be applied?
I would say TH can't afford another flop after CP, ISTL and HR all underperformed, both with critics and at the box office, but I don't want the CB veranda gang coming over here to attack me with their mimosas for being a bad fan.
>>832 Reshoots happen after the first edit if the powers that be find a hole that needs filling. Considering Peanut shut down his social media a few weeks ago, I would imagine that is when the shit hit the fan.
Also, it may not be coincidental that TH followed quite a few SI cast members the day after the Emmys. They may have attended a pre- screening together.
I've only ever been to one pre- screening and was so disgusted seeing an unfinished and ungraded film I will never do that to myself again. My perfect makeup looked horrible. Not to mention Kong himself would most likely be missing from any current edit of SI.
A mimosa attack wouldn't be so bad, just a bit sticky. You'd be excused for keeping your mouth wide open during the attack.
I stupidly checked on the Swifties and they are taking all the credit for TNM ratings as well as convincing themselves TayTo are on a romantic getaway together until his reshoot on Sunday
Romantic what? Have they been inventing her private plane routes again?
>>825 They most likely have an area (or areas) of expertise based on their previous employ. Former agent or entertainment lawyer, something caused them to accumulate a huge network.
Long article about TayTo and conspiracy theories is apparently important to Vanity Fair: http://www.vanityfair.com/style/2016/09/taylor-swift-tom-hiddleston-celebrity-conspiracy-theories
The takeaway is that the immediacy of social media means the content has crossed over into mainstream media, regardless of how trashy. What was normally relegated to the National Enquirer is now part of the 6pm news. Which makes sense since, at some point starting 15 years ago or so, TV news divisions were taken over by the networks' entertainment divisions.
>>826 I feel the same way. I didn't think him and Taylor would happen after the MET gala but we all saw how that turned out. Maybe it was a tactic to get Priyanka's name and her show some more press and to make Tom look like a sexy desireable bachelor again. Or maybe it could be a longer con. Tbh, after this summer I don't know anymore lol
>>830,832 Bar scene in NYC (or pretending to be elsewhere) says to me "expository scene". In other words: plot implausibility and/or incomprehensible chaos that needs explaining in a scene where they all sit down with a beer and tell us what's happening. That in turn says to me that this project may be in trouble.
I agree that a disaster on a $200m movie would not help, though I think the real stupidity lay with the studio in thinking that JVR was sufficiently experienced to direct such a film. TH actually hasn't done so badly in that 2 of his 4 most recent projects have been critical successes: TNM and HR (polarising, but it had some very god reviews). TNM was a big commercial success in the UK and HR was never going to make loads, though I bet it easily made its £5m budget back, which is more than CP did.
I think we have been overly distracted by ISTL being a critical car crash - though we only noticed that because it was so over hyped as the next Oscar nominated thang (and it may still be that SPC has the last laugh there as they still aren't done with us). Plus CP was massively over hyped too. The real problem with both these movies is that we weren't allowed to discover and enjoy their good points independently. We were told that they were the best thing EVAH and so of course they disappointed.
>>829,831 Ouch! That basically sounds like he was grateful the lead actor was such an imbecile but it was also embarrassing so he will pass at casting him again.
>>830,832,838 Calling it Shitty Island was prophetic. But then again, when Keaton and Simmons left the cast we all said it didn't look like JVR was good enough. SI will cost way more then $200m in the end and that's without counting promotion and press tour.
I think Anonon is right, the power that be had a look and told JVR that maybe instead of focusing on how to enjoy their weekends while filming and advertising it on instagram, they should have focused on the film, hence the shutting down of his social network.
>>838 It's not just about box office though, it's also about what impression of you people walk away with. In that sense, even HR wasn't very good. And it wasn't exactly a critical success, the average of critics at Rotten Tomatoes and Metacritics is around 60%.
That might explain the PR explosion in time for TNM, he needed a boost and the tvshow served him well, but it isn't gripping enough to stay with people for long, so in the end Loki is still what people know him for.
Rather than QUEEN Taylah, I think the jump in late ratings can be attributed to China. 40m isn't to be scoffed at and at least TH can say he's big in China
As for SI, it obviously has a gaping plot hole which they hope to fill with a bar scene because they couldn't stick a gorilla on it
>>842 Or, after a stressful day of chasing humans, Kong needs a few beers to calm down.
>>843 Bwahahahaha.
Kong, Skulling Drinks Island: Memoirs of an Oversized Alcoholic Ape
I think Anon may be on to something. Nothing like a bartender and a patron to explain away plot holes. 'What's got you looking so blue, mister?' Asks the bartender as he wipes down the bar. 'Well, I thought a showmance would be - oh, wait, I'm acting.'
You ladies are on fire today. A great ape walks into a bar and says...
>>845 Hahahahahah! Suddenly Skull Island becomes a biopic for HiddleSwift.
>>845 I would LOVE to see J. K. Simmons as the acerbically witted bartender. Anon., you need to start writing this.
captcha says : slutt
LOL
If there's a Lord in the heavens, a TS song will be playing in the background of the bar...even if it's set in the 1970s. I'm down for that anachronistic mistake.
