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1: [Applause]Everytime we finish a book we post here[Praise] (132) 2: Page Industries (2) 3: Star Wars EU Thread (10) 4: ITT post banned/taboo books you read (11) 5: [literature] high fantasy / dark fantasy novels (4) 6: Is it dumb to post here? (15) 7: Interlibrary loan gripes (2) 8: Lenin – Stalin – Putin in Limerick (7) 9: Midwit Authors (4) 10: Books on Hamas (3) 11: Irish Republican Army (8) 12: Hegel Secondary Lit (8) 13: Books you started reading but just coun't get through. (89) 14: LOTR (14) 15: Post porn (9) 16: House Of Leaves [Book] [May contain spoilers] (4) 17: [discord] Philosophy Book Club (3) 18: Recommendations on Labor History (3) 19: Poetry Thread (34) 20: [Snarky] ITT we post entries from the Devil's Dictionary [Evil] (7) 21: best sellers (4) 22: Pareto (4) 23: best (4) 24: Welcome To The NHK! (15) 25: Should I let my personal politics affect whose books I buy? (19) 26: I need Harry potter spoilers (18) 27: \ AN APPEAL TO HEAVEN / (3) 28: The Song of Ice and Fire topic (30) 29: Rene Guenon (10) 30: Should I get Norwegian Wood by Haruki Murakami? (11) 31: "Writing is fifty years behind painting." (27) 32: [Cao Cao]Romance of the Three Kingdoms[Liu Bei] (7) 33: Reasons why the Twilight series is an abomination in every sense of the word (61) 34: Examples of fanfics that sold well (18) 35: TAR (7) 36: The Last Question (4) 37: [weaboo]The Asian Saga/The Noble House series (6) 38: SciFi of ages past? (6) 39: Worst Fan Fiction ever! (83) 40: [shortstories] Shortstories Online (14)

[Applause]Everytime we finish a book we post here[Praise] (132)

1 Name: Bookworm : 2008-06-11 06:20 ID:CwXuimoY

http://4-ch.net/games/kareha.pl/1206548566/
This is a nice thread. Let's have a book edition.

I just read my first book by Haruki Murakami, "The Wind-Up Bird Chronicle". Murakami gets a lot of praise in these parts, and after reading this book, I can confirm that it isn't unfounded. The book to me felt a bit weaker towards the end, but I really liked hearing the stories of Nomonhan, Siberia, and such.

123 Name: Bookworm : 2023-12-15 22:07 ID:2ClFzGHs

Guerrilla Warfare by Che Guevara
Che's manual for a social revolution in oppressed third world countries. The basic strategy is to form small bands of men, win favor with the locals and carry out hit and run attacks on the oppressor forces. Once many people have been recruited and enough supplies have been stolen from the enemy, you split off a new band of guerrillas from the original one and in this manner the revolutionary force multiplies like self-replicating cells. The government army is incapable of dealing with this and forced to leave the combat zone, where the guerrillas form their own democratic government and can build permanent bases and supply their troops. The dictatorship slowly collapses as guerrilla forces overrun more areas and the army breaks down.

Che says guerrillas should be concerned with survival and not worry about superior enemy numbers or firepower because guerrillas can always escape encirclement and even if a massive chunk of the revolutionary army is destroyed all it takes is a handful of men to regenerate it. American and Israeli army officers have to read this as part of their training but they don't seem to learn anything from it. Good read.

124 Name: Bookworm : 2024-01-29 23:48 ID:wgK7dR/M

Art of Unix Programming by Eric S Raymond
Its full of pro-open source propaganda

125 Name: Bookworm : 2024-02-10 22:21 ID:YNPFs8xv

ed mastery by Lucas
very good, learn good stuff

126 Name: Bookworm : 2024-02-14 07:07 ID:8o1kbTIV

Steelworkers in America: The Nonunion Era by David Brody
Probably my first serious history book(though the posters here would not be impressed) and I wasn't disappointed. Brody has a focus on the community of an immigrant neighborhood and how steel men slowly dug their paws into it in order to disrupt any future strikes. It exposes their interest in "culture" as an attempt to portray the union men as ungrateful. So many truths in one read. Will dig deeper into the topic.

127 Name: Bookworm : 2024-02-27 17:24 ID:hSiE4Upp

This month I read all three books in the Southern Reach trilogy (Annihilation, Authority, Acceptance). I enjoyed book 2 the most. Interesting premise and engaging setting though it eventually becomes apparent that the setting is more of a vehicle for the author's environmentalism than a puzzle to be solved (at least in my interpretation). Despite this I think it remains a good read and is somewhat comparable to Roadside Picnic in a few areas.

I might read the new interquel novel releasing later this year, Absolution.

128 Name: Bookworm : 2024-03-16 18:37 ID:8o1kbTIV

They Closed Their Schools: Prince Edward County, Virginia, 1951-1964 by Bob Smith.

It's a very personal read due to the amount of interview sourcing Smith relies upon, and his use of differing stories to show how suffocating Southern civility was in determining the truth of any event is...okay? I noticed it but didn't think much about it.

I struggle to say anything substantial about it that wouldn't just be a summary of the events like my last post, but I do like the air of futility given at the end. The "Uncle Tom" of this story not viewing the children as ungrateful or too brash but rather doomed to fail, simply because the organization of white money in the county was too great, too swift, binding together at a level of organization the blacks could only dream of. That's almost definitely a major misreading, but it was my first impression of it.

129 Name: Bookworm : 2024-04-05 15:11 ID:aAgmjHzf

Piranesi by Susanna Clarke

A gripping read. Though very reminiscent of the sort of esoteric horror framework that made House of Leaves a hit, this is much more succinct and straightforward with its delivery at a brief 250 pages and offers a very satisfying conclusion, albeit with tantalisingly few unsolved threads to speculate about. Highly recommended.

130 Name: Bookworm : 2024-04-29 11:07 ID:aAgmjHzf

The Luminaries by Eleanor Catton

Satisfying mystery set in ye olde new zealand golde rush times, with the interesting archetypal symbolism of character personalities being based on particular astrological signs and celestial objects, and their interactions derived from stellar conjunctions during the dates the novel spans. It's kinda like homestuck's astrology characters, but with a bit more substance. Each chapter is half as long as the preceding one which I liked, but consequently the opening chapter made up half of the novel, which was a bit brutal.

131 Name: Bookworm : 2024-05-01 02:38 ID:1wgRB86a

The Very Hungry Caterpillar by Eric Carle

HOLY CRAP! This book is amazing, and a true work of art that can only come from a divine power. The book provides great in-depth detail of a hungry caterpillar and his struggle to quench his hunger in this new world, but eventually succumbing to lust for food and making an example of what can come from gluttony, a tummy ache. I recommend this book for all of those wanting to educate themselves and become self-conscious of this caterpillar's story.

132 Name: Bookworm : 2024-07-26 10:47 ID:7TX3NowD

I Have No Mouth, and I Must Scream by Harlan Ellison

Not what I was expecting and a bit lacklustre. AM's behaviour felt more like an angsty teenager than the evil supercomputer it was intended to be, and the "non-exposition" scenes felt contrived and stupid. Maybe I just have a hard time relating to the narrator and his companions. Overall I found the setting very interesting - I'd like to see it expanded on. I guess I'll give the old PC game a go sometime.
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Page Industries (2)

1 Name: Bookworm : 2024-07-23 23:16 ID:6gWZAAA0

The Secret Service couldn't keep up. As consumer-grade Universal Constructors flooded the market, people began using them to manufacture satellite weaponry. The unthinkable became routine: holding Senators hostage with the mere threat of a strike, coordinates programmed into hastily assembled, orbiting death machines.

Page, ever the schemer, had seen the writing on the wall long before the chaos erupted. He ordered us to clone the entire Senate, ensuring his precious legislation remained untouchable and live, regardless of the threats. Now, the real Senators were hidden away, their roles played by perfect duplicates, indistinguishable even under the closest scrutiny.

But that was only the beginning. Page had his secret plan. He implanted the cloned Senators with advanced augmentation devices, giving him unprecedented control. Through SSH, he now wrote laws directly, bypassing the sluggishness of democracy. His clandestine augmentations turned the Senators into mere extensions of his will, puppets executing his commands with unerring precision.

In the midst of this upheaval, Everett, our once-diligent watchdog, had retreated into silence. He wouldn't even read the news, overwhelmed by the sheer impossibility of the world we had created. Page's grip tightened, his influence expanding as he bent the Senate—and by extension, the entire nation—to his vision.

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2 Name: Bookworm : 2024-07-26 10:50 ID:Heaven

Page Industries Limited is an Indian manufacturer and retailer of innerwear, loungewear and socks, headquartered in Bangalore. It is the exclusive licensee of Jockey International in India, Sri Lanka, Nepal, Bangladesh, the United Arab Emirates, Oman, Qatar, Maldives and Bhutan. In 2011, it licensed Speedo swimwear from Pentland Group for India and Sri Lanka.

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Star Wars EU Thread (10)

1 Name: Bookworm : 2024-04-08 07:29 ID:+od16ZSY

Star Wars EU Thread.

No new Disney canon allowed only legends.

What books have you read?

I am currently reading Children of the jedi.

2 Name: Bookworm : 2024-04-12 22:39 ID:zNPjjxhj

Never read anything from the EU. Anything you'd recommend?

3 Name: Bookworm : 2024-04-17 19:21 ID:+od16ZSY

>>2

Heir to the empire.

4 Name: Bookworm : 2024-04-18 16:58 ID:OHaGe+O0

Didn't Disney kill the EU? I would have thought it would have been source material for them but as usual coorperate suits and self-annointed screenwriters think they can do everything better.

5 Name: Bookworm : 2024-04-22 00:55 ID:+od16ZSY

>>4

Yes, it was de-canonized in April 2014.

6 Name: Bookworm : 2024-04-25 16:56 ID:r7byQcTd

>>5

>de-canonized

They can actually do that?

7 Name: Bookworm : 2024-05-01 02:41 ID:DrfRCWWO

If they can de-canonize what is stopping them from de-canonizing the original films? They could get J. J. Abrams to rehash them and give them a Disney make over. I always thought Empire Strikes Back would be better if it had more convoluted plot and characters flatter than a loli’s chest.

8 Name: Bookworm : 2024-06-04 21:26 ID:1bja0Q9w

>>5
Such a shame, the Old Republic era is so much more interesting than their half-assed replacement 'High Republic'

9 Name: Bookworm : 2024-07-09 22:21 ID:5vewZaY2

>>8

The original clone wars were also great.

10 Name: Bookworm : 2024-07-10 09:51 ID:gMmSi2oB

Disney scrapped the Clone Wars series too?

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ITT post banned/taboo books you read (11)

1 Name: Bookworm : 2023-10-23 01:55 ID:EyNll25V

I read the anarchist cookbook and it sucked! I tried Uncle Ted’s book but everyone’s read that already. De Sade is just porn spam that’s not even gurochan tier. Lolis are banned in my country. I need some recommendations.

2 Name: Bookworm : 2023-10-24 00:57 ID:X81qgEiB

Fascism: 100 Questions Asked and Answered. 90% of it is just establishing a new parliament based on interest groups(e.g one for the steel industry, one for agriculture, etc.), holding foreigners on a tight leash, and forcing capitalists to use local labor. I think he mentions something about expanding pensions and welfare, but my memory is shoddy. Honestly not much even a normie would disagree with minus the anti-Jewry.

3 Name: Bookworm : 2023-11-14 03:23 ID:Heaven

I read Sayyid Qutb. He really isn't that bad. It's basically, dictatorship is bad, people should be free, religion commands us to fight for freedom. That's literally it. I'm disappointed. CNN told me this guy was the philosopher behind ISIS. It's all a lie as usual.

4 Name: Bookworm : 2023-11-19 02:30 ID:ndYHRpm5

I read Bin Laden’s Letter to America. I don’t see what the fuss is about. It’s just him carefully explaining why he attacked America and most of the points were pretty reasonable and not the “he just hates our freedoms” thing. Turns out Bin Laden doesn’t like America propping up Israel or dictators or the Saudis and as a weeb he didn’t like the nuking of Japan. There’s a whole section where he complains about US corporations polluting the earth with toxic chemicals. He also claims AIDS was spread by America, which, looking at the state of online discourse, was probably right.

5 Name: Bookworm : 2023-11-27 01:33 ID:5VVGlRQj

I read one of Stalin’s books. He actually wrote philosophy. He’s surprisingly erudite and knowledgable and not the foaming at the mouth lunatic you’d expect. But he sees the world in a very mechanical top down way like you’d a communist dictator naturally would.

6 Name: Bookworm : 2023-12-02 18:51 ID:X81qgEiB

>>5
Which one did you read in particular, Anon? Maybe you could talk about it in the Lenin-Stalin thread?

7 Name: Bookworm : 2023-12-04 16:32 ID:ZNpUwa6+

>>6
Dialectical and Historical Materialism. Its supposed to be a textbook intro to Marx’s philosophy. Stalin advises readers to just ignore Hegel and his understanding of dialectics is actually closer to Fichte and then he makes it all about biological development. Lenin and Stalin literally think that every physical thing has two basic contradictory elements inside it that are opposites and studying the struggle between them gives you the key to understanding the development of that thing. They take this method and think they can apply it to literally everything, from the history of society to how to read a book and manufacture cars. Its like a crystal ball that can do everything. They consider it objective science.

None of this actually matches up with anything Hegel or Marx actually wrote, except for when Stalin quotes them like a Bible thumper at a Sunday school. It actually explains a lot about communist countries and why they were so fucked up. These people think their geniuses that figured out the truth about the universe and everyone has to obey them because muh dialectic material analysis.

8 Name: Bookworm : 2024-02-04 23:34 ID:M6qRvO12

I tried reading Crowley's books.

9 Name: Bookworm : 2024-04-12 22:40 ID:Heaven

I read this collection of /pol/ memes. It was garbage total waste of time. Didn't even finish.

10 Name: Bookworm : 2024-05-15 22:59 ID:mBrxiscy

It's not banned, but the book The Memoirs of Josephine by Felix Salten - better known as the guy who wrote children's books such as Bambi - is pretty good. I'm surprised it isn't banned. I can't really describe anything about here without getting myself on a w*tchl*st, but suffice to say it deals with a lot of horny stuff. It's great - from a literary perspective, of course. If you like books about girls doing extreme degenerate sex acts in high society 19th century Vienna and enjoying themselves look no further!

You may have to track down a used copy off some book website, as it's not exactly something any publishers want to print anymore (insofar as I know).

11 Name: Bookworm : 2024-06-29 19:51 ID:czH0p1ja

Not banned but definitely taboo. Stephen King's It. Yeah I know its a mainstream horror classic and got four movies but in the book there's graphic child sex. When the kids are running around in the sewers looking for the clown man, the girl Beverly tries to cheer them all up by forcing them to have sex with her. And by force I mean it, she practically pulls one of the guys shorts off and whispers some seductive shit in his here to get him over his virgin anxiety. All the boys take turns fucking her. King goes into detail too, describing the pain of penetration and joy of 12 year old girl orgasm in autistic detail. Its such an odd scene because it has nothing to do with the plot and hits you out of left field. Like, yeah we're looking for the killer clown in the killer clown lair so lets have underage group sex now.

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[literature] high fantasy / dark fantasy novels (4)

1 Name: Bookworm : 2024-06-09 17:17 ID:Z3WLbnTT

Hello 4-ch, I am looking to read a fantasy novel, do you have any suggestions? Of course, I'm interested in less mainstream works, no lord of the rings or narnia.
Other than that, feel free to use this thread to discuss fantasy novels.

2 Name: Bookworm : 2024-06-14 15:50 ID:LbQvPOkp

What about the Hobbit?

3 Name: Bookworm : 2024-06-29 19:45 ID:PQuI0v3X

>>2
The Hobbit is dark? Was there a hidden child sex orgy beheading scene I missed in the censored version?

4 Name: Bookworm : 2024-07-08 16:45 ID:Heaven

I'd love to read a literature equivalent to the dark fantasy world of Berserk. All the "dark fantasy" novels I have read are about racism and sex and bloodlines and monarchies, and I don't have the attention span for CK2 shit like that. But I'm not very storied, so also hoping for some recommendations.

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Is it dumb to post here? (15)

1 Name: Bookworm : 2007-11-12 21:40 ID:MD0mwgOE

Anyone else think that it's kind of absurd to post here? I'm pretty sure that at least 85% of 4ch reads nothing that isn't online.

6 Name: Bookworm : 2007-11-18 02:10 ID:eh5FjzVJ

Many classical literatures are available online as electronic text nowadays.

7 Name: Bookworm : 2007-11-18 14:08 ID:3qbtZWpt

OP is wrong. I love books.

8 Name: Bookworm : 2007-11-24 01:45 ID:onJ2v25O

umm I find it's better to post on any of these text boards than on imageboards. I'm just so afraid I'll get made fun of by other /b/tards.

9 Name: Bookworm : 2007-11-30 04:57 ID:Heaven

I love books. Though I think it's unfair to discount the internet as "unliterate" or whatever. There's the Gutenberg project and stuff, yeah, but...I have been truly amazed by the beauty and veracity of some internet copypasta. Or at least some good writing.

As we all know, smoking is really bad for your health. What a lot of people don't realize is that when you smoke, those few minutes of your expected lifespan are literally transformed into the ash you flick away into an ashtray. Ashtrays, each and every one of them, are constructed by a single group running several dozen front companies.

Basically, unless you're putting out your smokes beneath your heel or in the ashtray your kid made at camp, you're dispensing your ashen life into this group's eager little recepticle. Their ashtrays absorb the life force from the ashes and sends it to a central holding facility. No one knows for sure what these guys are going to do when they've collected all that life energy, but it's probably going to be huge.

Incidentally, there's talk of a rival organization leading the anti-smoking political agenda from behind the scenes. They probably figure removing smoking sections, and thus ashtrays, from restaurants and bars is a good first step towards thwarting whatever it is this ashtray company is trying to do.

10 Name: Bookworm : 2008-02-27 17:11 ID:FqHmKlw8

"The copypasta" may become the great new literary form of the 21st century, just as "the film" overtook "the novel."

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12 Name: Bookworm : 2020-08-13 09:12 ID:BJ3a7dIU

Yes

13 Name: Bookworm : 2020-12-31 04:36 ID:Heaven

i am a heron. i ahev a long neck and i pick fish out of the water w/ my beak. if you dont repost this comment on 10 other pages i will fly into your kitchen tonight and make a mess of your pots and pans

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15 Name: Bookworm : 2024-05-24 06:34 ID:Heaven

I don't even fucking care about reading anymore. I'm not smart enough to do any analysis with the information I'm given. If I was I wouldn't need to read other people's posts so much.

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Interlibrary loan gripes (2)

1 Name: Bookworm : 2023-12-29 21:50 ID:WZXsjGV1

Got notified that two of my loan requests just arrived, not by telling me what the titles are, but rather some ID numbers. Why force me to cross-reference my messages manually to see what the fuck just arrived?

2 Name: Bookworm : 2024-01-08 12:43 ID:q9VJMbLu

So we can employ more programmers to debug a system that could have been simple but your company decided to use AI powered AWS Amazon Linux Bezos OS and employ a team of chimps to arrange the books as punishment for their war crimes in Australia

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Lenin – Stalin – Putin in Limerick (7)

1 Name: The Whistling Marmot : 2023-02-08 15:59 ID:APxbwGvr

Hi Folks!

In case anybody does not know the ingenious Limerick by the late historian and poet Robert Conquest, here it is:

There was a great Marxist called Lenin
Who did two or three million men in.
That's a lot to have done in
But where he did one in
That grand Marxist Stalin did ten in.

This calls for a suitable refrain. Instead of the usual one with China and chili I propose the following:

Aye, aye, aye, aye, a new chap has since put his foot in,
who thinks he can rival both Stalin and Lenin
and shoots in the foot he has put in.
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2 Name: Bookworm : 2023-02-08 20:55 ID:Heaven

kill yourself

3 Name: Bookworm : 2023-02-08 21:28 ID:Heaven

be nice

4 Name: Bookworm : 2023-02-17 21:49 ID:CvIcoEI8

I don't get it. Please rewrite it but have all the characters replaced with pop culture references.

5 Name: Bookworm : 2023-06-02 03:39 ID:Heaven

this dude rhymed in with in like six times

6 Name: Bookworm : 2023-10-10 05:26 ID:/4NbO44d

This reminds me that I'm slogging through Years of Hunger. Told myself I would be, anyway. As dry as you'd expect but never too wordy.

7 Name: Bookworm : 2023-12-23 00:20 ID:5iQLAjnV

where is the Putin? what is this joke? Stalin didn't kill 10 million. He killed 100 million. Get it right! How would you feel if you worked hard to get the biggest high score and some asshole online low balled it by 90 million?

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Midwit Authors (4)

1 Name: Bookworm : 2023-11-11 16:27 ID:hYZO1PDZ

We talked about pseuds in a long-necroed thread, but what about authors who have just a little bit of truth but not much else?

Take Michael Parenti for example. There's more worth in most of his citations than anything he's written himself, and most of his fans think they're Neo after reading a middle-school level pamphlet.

2 Name: Bookworm : 2023-11-14 01:56 ID:7T8eh4lM

Nick Land. His early essays had some good ideas but then he started sipping the crackpipe and did a complete 180 and now he's an alt right shitposter that writes travel guides for the Chinese government. Nick has the dubious distinction of being beloved by both far right schizos and left wing culture vultures, neither of whom can write coherent sentences. Before he became a drug addict and acolyte of Xi Jinping, he had some decent ideas. Like capitalism depends on racism and misogyny for smooth functioning, that humanism sucks, and instead of fighting the system we should just push it to collapse. Then the rest of it is incoherent rambling and filler designed to make him look smart and his more recent writing, if you can call it that, is just vapid /pol/ tier hot takes on twitter.

3 Name: Bookworm : 2023-11-17 23:13 ID:PTAfCDVL

Haruki Murakami is one of those boring midwit novelists who is only read by white girls so as to look cultured and cosmopolitan.

4 Name: Bookworm : 2023-11-19 18:34 ID:+nf6KLq+

Yuval Harari is possibly the ultimate midwit intellectual of our times. His books a short on scientific evidence and while most of what he says is just a summary of stuff people have known for years, his own innovations are sensationalist and the primary source is his ass.

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Books on Hamas (3)

1 Name: Bookworm : 2023-10-30 02:43 ID:VXAR13Y5

So is there any good lit on Hamas? Since we already have an IRA thread might as well have a Palestinian one.

2 Name: Bookworm : 2023-11-02 14:05 ID:ICcnpEts

Tariq Beconi’s book is good

3 Name: Bookworm : 2023-11-14 03:20 ID:Heaven

What does Fateh even know about Hamas? Let me tell you right here, nobody takes that Mahmoud Abbas seriously. His own men are trying to assasinate him. While he was scrambling for Israeli pay checks, Hamas went and attacked Israel and made him look like fool again. What's Netanyahu even going to do about it? He's already lost. He's never winning an election after this and that's if the irate Jews don't string up him from a post like Mussolini.

If you want good books on Hamas try Tamimi's Hamas A History From Within. You can also read their 1987 charter (it's not pretty and there's a lot of rambling about Jews) and their 2017 charter (we're just moderate democrats now with guns and Israel is a fascist country). You know I don't think people care. Just don't get your reading list from Herzog who's trying convince us all they have chemical weapons (it's like a meme at this point) and they read Mein Kampf to kids.

Just read Finkelstein's books. You can't sink the Fink. Gaza An Inquest Into It's Martyrdom.

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