http://4-ch.net/games/kareha.pl/1206548566/
This is a nice thread. Let's have a book edition.
I just read my first book by Haruki Murakami, "The Wind-Up Bird Chronicle". Murakami gets a lot of praise in these parts, and after reading this book, I can confirm that it isn't unfounded. The book to me felt a bit weaker towards the end, but I really liked hearing the stories of Nomonhan, Siberia, and such.
I finished Profesor Unrat by Heinrich Mann yesterday. It's about a paranoid nutcase of a teacher and it's beautiful. I've read afterwards that it#s about social critique and changing politics embedded in the historical context in which it was conceived yada yada yada but I think it's quality is vastly increased if you read it like it is. Compared to Thomas Heinrich's style is a lot more funky and interesting but also more light-hearted so it hits altogether differently.
>>95
I liked that one as well, I read Oblomov some time before that and somewhat hoped he would kill himself so I was welcoming the serotonin ending
Just finished "Flower for Algernon", by Daniel Keyes.
It got me in tears at the end, I just realized how much potencial I am wasting with each passing day by doing nothing at all, while so many people wished they had the opportunities I have.
It is a very good read and I can't recommend it enough.
>>99
I read that when I was a teen and cried as well at the ending.
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Been reading the Redwall series, finished the first two books, about halfway through the third.
It's a pretty fun little series, but I remember catching a look at the wikipedia and seeing a mention of criticism of it being repetitious, and I have to agree with what I've read so far.
It's not a major deal breaker or anything but the riddles and exactly 2 named allies dying among other thins is annoyingly ever-present. The main protags are also all very similar but that's kind of the point so whatever. 3rd book is looking a little fresher at least so far.
Also I had the weirdest issue reading the first one in that it has some weird early installment thing where it's vaguely implied they live in a world with humans with human-sized carts and buildings and the like; it was really confusing to try and envision it in my head since other parts made it seem like things were the size of the animals. And Redwall itself is made much, much smaller in the 3rd book, so at least it's not an issue in the later entries.
>>1
I've read The white nights, by Fedor Dostoievski. A short book, However, a great book.
I listened to an English translation of "La Maldicion de la Cabeza Reducida" but forgot to make a file for the last chapter.
"Paperback, 72 pages
Published [2009-06-01] by TPRS Publishing, Incorporated"
Links:
https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/12433349-la-maldicion-de-la-cabeza-reducida
https://www.teachersdiscovery.com/product/la-maldicion-de-la-cabeza-recudinda-level-2-intermediate-low-spanish-novel/spanish-clearance
https://www.abebooks.com/book-search/isbn/9781934958971/
https://m.directtextbook.com/isbn/9781934958971
https://fluencymatters.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/06/Spa-Maldicion-TG-Web.Spl_.pdf
https://fluencymatters.com/courses/la-maldicion-de-la-cabeza-reducida-e-course/
https://cinovels.fandom.com/wiki/La_maldición_de_la_cabeza_reducida
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Comprehensible_Input
Just finished Watership Down.
A thoroughly captivating read from beginning to end, beyond what I expected even as I already had high expectations. I'm not altogether sure why, but reading about the little group of rabbits fighting against the odds to achieve a happy life through strength and smarts was very satisfying. I also liked the sort of culture the rabbit's were given, it was clever and worked well in the narrative.
I was actually a bit surprised to find the story to be as happy and sentimental as it was; I had heard it was quite the brutal tale, and, while there was blood and death to be sure, it wasn't nearly as grim as I was expecting. I imagine that must be more associated with the movie, considering its own reputation as not being a typical children's film and knowing that The Plague Dogs movie, based on another book by the same author, was actually made more dismal than the book, if I remember correctly.
Altogether, I enjoyed this book immensely. It's no wonder its considered such a classic.
First of all I have only just glanced at titles of the different volumes of this guy's multi-volume magnum opus. You can make fun of me for that if you want to; I just wanted to make this post. Also, fair warning, this will be a bit political, or a lot political. Thus, if the mods do not like this, then feel free to delete.
I took a stats class and this guy came up. He seems to be quite exquisite despite the whole influencing fascism thing. Anyway, one of my friends basically stated the same thing that Pareto did in his four-volume text on society, that is, logical fallacies have entered into the domain of discourse of politics so that everything is now a sore subject and nothing really makes sense anymore with regards to the former. I know that I am not qualified for the following undertaking, but I would like to revisit Pareto's text with another sociological text constructing a scenario where a kakistocracy takes power and
a). Ruins lives with their shitposting;
b). Tarnishes the national discourse on everything;
c). Possibly endangers human life itself if the cabinet takes power at a critical point in human history;
yeah. This last bit is quite grandiose, but do you recall how Euclid basically wrote his Elements with the end goal of constructing the Platonic Solids, and thus the entirety of the cosmos as it was seen at the time? Yes, he actually did this, but I was thinking, "What if we did this same thing, except with Trump at the end?" Yes, I see after writing that I sound essentially as crazy as the "lost gospel of Trump" if you get my drift, although I doubt many will get that reference (I do NOT support that obscure entity I referenced). Any thoughts, or should I just "go back to reddit" or something?
What exactly would be the purpose of such a text? Trump has not demonstrated to be particularly worthy of such a grandiose text.
This thread is also poorly named, I can't see much discussion about Pareto and his work occurring here considering your focus on writing a "lost gospel of Trump." You would have been better off calling it just that, "ITT we write the lost gospel of Trump." Much more attention grabbing too.
Post your favorites:
秋深き (aki fukaki)
隣は何を (tonari wa nani wo)
する人ぞ (suru hito zo)
>>16
not really trochaic heptameter
FTFY
"This one is machine and nerve, and has its mind concluded. This one is but flesh and faith, and is the more deluded." - Said about John-117 and then Thel 'Vadam, respectively, on Gravemind.
THIS one 1 IS mach 2 INE and 3 NERVE and 4 HAS its 5 MIND con 6 CLU ded 7 — is trochaic heptameter
THIS one 1 IS but 2 FLESH and 3 FAITH and 4 IS the 5 MORE de 6 LU ded 7 — is trochaic heptameter
>>17
"There '''is''' much talk, and I have listened, through rock and metal and time. Now I shall talk, and you shall listen." - Said on Gravemind. ['''bold''' suggests a stressed word]
THERE is 1 MUCH talk 2 AND I 3 HAVE lis 4 TENED through 5 ROCK and 6 MET al 7 AND time 8 — sorta is trochaic heptameter
NOW I 1 SHALL talk 2 AND you 3 SHALL list 4 EN 4.5 — not trochaic heptameter
I don't think it works this way, but you could rearrange it like this:
THERE is 1 MUCH talk 2 AND I 3 HAVE lis 4 TENED through 5 ROCK and 6 MET al 7
AND time. 1 NOW I 2 SHALL talk 3 AND you 4 SHALL list 5 EN 5.5
>>18
"This one's containment... (gestures to 2401 Penitent Tangent and growls and shudders a bit)... and this one's Great Journey... (gestures to the Prophet of Regret)... are the same. Your Prophets have promised you freedom from a doomed existence, but you will find no salvation on this Ring. Those who built this place knew what they wrought. Do not mistake their intent, or all will perish as they did before." - Said on Gravemind.
THIS one's 1 CON tain 2 MENT and 3 THIS one's 4 GREAT jour 5 NEY are 6 THE same. 7 — is trochaic heptameter
YOUR pro 1 PHETS have 2 PRO mised 3 YOU free 4 DOM from 5 A doomed 6 EX ist 7 ENCE, 7.5 — sorta is trochaic heptameter
BUT you 1 WILL find 2 NO sal 3 VA tion 4 ON this 5 RING. 5.5 - not trochaic heptameter (rearranged total=6).
"If you will not hear the truth, then I will show it to you. There is still time to stop the key from turning, but first, it must be found. (gestures to John-117) You will search one likely spot... (gestures to Thel 'Vadam)... and you will search another. Fate had us meet as foes, but this Ring will make us brothers." - Said on Gravemind.
IF you 1 WILL not 2 HEAR the 3 TRUTH then 4 I will 5 SHOW it 6 TO you. 7 — is trochaic heptameter
THERE is 1 STILL time 2 TO stop 3 THE key 4 FROM turn 5 ING but 6 FIRST it 7 MUST be 8 FOUND 8.5 — not really trochaic heptameter (rearranged=5.5 3 or 6 2.5)
YOU will 1 SEARCH one 2 LIKE ly 3 SPOT and 4 YOU will 5 SEARCH an 6 O ther 7 — is trochaic heptameter
FATE had 1 US meet 2 AS foes 3 BUT this 4 RING will 5 MAKE us 6 BRO thers. 7 — is trochaic heptameter
"Arrogant creatures! Your deaths will be instantaneous, while we shall suffer the progress of infinitude!" - Said on High Charity (level).
ARR o 1 GANT crea 2 TURES! your 3 DEATHS will 4 BE in 5 STAN tan 6 E ous 7 — is trochaic heptameter I guess
WHILE we 1 SHALL su 2 FFER the 3 PRO gress 4 OF in 5 FIN i 6 TUDE 6.5 — sorta trochaic heptameter I guess
"We exist together now, two corpses in one grave..." - Said on High Charity.
WE ex 1 IST to 2 GE ther 3 NOW two 4 CORP ses 5 IN one 6 GRA ve 7 (or GRAVE 6.5) — is trochaic heptameter I guess
"Silence fills the empty grave, now that I have gone. But my mind is not at rest, for questions linger on. I will ask, and you will answer." - To Cortana, after Halo 2's credits.
SI lence 1 FILLS the 2 EMP ty 3 GRAVE now 4 THAT i 5 HAVE gone. 6 — sorta is trochaic heptameter
BUT my 1 MIND is 2 NOT at 3 REST for 4 QUEST ions 5 LIN ger 6 ON. 6.5 — sorta is trochaic heptameter
End Halo 2 GRAVEmind quotes
"Do not be afraid. I am peace; I am salvation." - Said on Floodgate.
DO not 1 BE afraid 2 I am 3 PEACE i 4 I am 5 SAL va 6 tion. 6.5 — sorta is trochaic heptameter
P.S. I drank one shot of Everclear followed by a water chaser and am drunk now (whiskey river take my mind). My throat has been hurting for too many minutes now. Aesop Fables: drink watered down Everclear to avoid a sore throat.
Captain Hook must remember
Not to scratch his toes.
Captain Hook must watch out
And never pick his nose.
Captain Hook must be gentle
When he shakes your hand.
Captain Hook must be careful
Openin' sardine cans
And playing tag and pouring tea
And turnin' pages of his book.
Lots of folks I'm glad I ain't--
But mostly Captain Hook!
>>24
captain hook must remember not to scratch his balls lmao
When I consider Life, 'tis all a cheat;
Yet, fool'd with hope, men favour the deceit;
Trust on, and think to morrow will repay:
To morrow's falser than the former day;
Lies worse; and while it says, We shall be blest
With some new joys, cuts off what we possest.
Strange couzenage! none would live past years again,
Yet all hope pleasure in what yet remain;
And, from the dregs of Life, think to receive
What the first sprightly running could not give.
I'm tir'd with waiting for this Chymic Gold,
Which fools us young, and beggars us when old.
worst
Have any of you on here read the original Welcome To The NHK novel by Tatsuhiko Takimoto?
>>5
the only reason i exist is to suffer reality is a joke all of humanity is slowly fading away into nonexistence. there is beauty in extinction.
>>6
im been in a manipulative situation my entire existence all I know about relationships is based off of manipulation;I want to hurt myself in ways that fuck myself over entirely such as running our of money and being forced into the streets or making those I live distrust me, death by a thousand cuts in order to make them despise my existence to the point of my existence being completely unbearable to them. i want to feel despair i can't help but to manipulate others in order to get what I want at this point and all what I want is to do harm to myself and manipulate others into manipulating me to do so. i always get what, its easy when what i do to myself is what normal people avoid by instinct i deserve i always got what i deserved.
nobody I know will read this post so i dont care.
i ruined myself financially by wasting money on things that I hate and hurt myself with those things; i intentionally looked at things I wanted and then bought something I didn't want at 2x retail price.
I should be brain-dead with the amount of drugs ive overdosed on, it didn't matter what drug I took, tylenol, antidepressants, opioids, psychedelics, it did not matter as long as it was in my posession, i stopped doing this but I would hoard prescriptions and take around 5x my perscribed dose for a couple of days before stopping suddenly and doing it again.
my family have all emotionally abused me since I can remember, scaring me with suicide and divorce at times, they got less direct with their manipulation as time went on.
I don't deserve friends. I deserve manipulation.
I deserve to be hurt, I want to be hurt.
I don't need people.
@ExwyfVm+
You seem like a directionless sick fuck. I hope you stay away from me or try to do something constructive.
>>6
Try believing in God or Science maybe. What will save humanity from loss of information and the decay of our world? Perhaps God or science will. The Earth will decay and so will the Sun. Every star dies and black holes evaporate; the universe might end up being nothingness. Nothingness from everything being the same temperature, when the energy sources (stars, black holes, etc.) have all been rendered useless.
How could science be our salvation at or leading up to that point? Time travel, inter-dimensional travel, intergalactic travel, interstellar travel, use of worm holes, traveling to parallel universes, Jupiter brains, quantum computing, nuclear power, etc. could all help.
How could God save us from a doomed existence? God is a powerful being, beyond the constraints and limitations of physical reality. More powerful that those powerful things which die eventually (after millions or maybe billions of years). God is the ultimate subject, and, as I think Hegel pointed out, the ultimate substance.
>>11
How could one put faith in atoms when even they might decay into useless but more simple and stable particles? As sturdy as the physical reality surrounding us seems it might be flimsy in the grand scheme of things. But maybe atoms don't decay and the universe is eternal, somehow never running out of energy sources. In that case I would respect materialism even more. Maybe God is eternal, all knowing, and all powerful. There is comfort in thinking that there is an all-knowing eternal being, for in that case no information (past, present, future, legal, or illegal) is ever lost. Each human's consciousness, memories, and experiences can be thought of as individuals units of information, for example.
It is disingenuous at best and a lie at worst to presume the absolute nature of reality or the truth of the future (especially when the future in question is highly speculative). If I remember correctly Kant said to not lie, for if you lie you take responsibility for reality.
responsible
adj. Liable to be required to give account, as of one's actions or of the discharge of a duty or trust.
adj. Required to render account; answerable
>>12
Reality itself is the best representation of itself. Any person's intentionally false account of reality could be laid asunder if that person missed a relevant facet or tendril of the part of reality in question. If you tell the truth then the power of reality itself supports you. If you tell a lie then the only thing supporting you is your own wit. Lying means that it is you, rather than reality, telling a supposed truth about reality. You then have to maintain the integrity of the false account of reality. If your account of reality becomes not logically sound then it could fall apart. If you want a lie to work then you should only tell variants of a lie when absolutely necessary. Or better yet, craft the lie so you don't have to tell variants of it. If you tell variants of a lie, consider if the people whom you told will ever communicate with each other.
The opposite of truth is falsehood: when it is held for truth, it is called error
—https://www.the-philosophy.com/kant-right-to-lie
Best. Series. Ever.
Am I wrong?
Rereading the series. Just finished the second book. Agree with >>3.
Yes you are wrong. It was good, but definitely not the best. Still, it's a matter of opinion.
Yes you are wrong. It was good, but definitely not the best. Still, it's a matter of opinion.
I read The Hobbit and then LOTR when I was a teenager in the 80's. Some parts of the trilogy were really slow-going, and I didn't fully grasp everything, but still enjoyed it a lot. The Hobbit was completely enchanting, and I couldn't put that book down. I'd stay up late through the night to read it, over and over again.
But I also greatly enjoyed stories by Robert E. Howard (Kull, Conan), Moorcock (Hawkmoon, Elric), Lovecraft, various other pulp-era stuff that was later compiled into book format, and last but not least, the great Jules Verne.
Dwarves are Jewish
So, um, where to begin? A while ago some Google ads next to a GMail conversation about my reading material (mostly about David Weber and other Baen Books authors) led me to a site advertising a German alternative-history series of military SF called "Kaiserfront 1949". The basic premise is that Germany narrowly won WWI against France and is a major world power with its own military alliance by the year 1949 (WWII did not happen, nor did the Nazi regime or the Weimar republic - the Kaiser is still in power). It is also the only country owning nuclear weapons and wants to keep it that way. The publisher's site provides the first book as a free PDF download, so that's all I've read so far.
Apparently these books aren't self-contained stories, they literally end with a German "to be continued". What I read was not too awful, but a bit boring. The author seems to have decided that German technology roolz, all other tech droolz, so German planes can often simply fly above the maximum range of their enemies, German tanks are unharmed by a direct hit from a Russian shell, but fire one shot at the Russian from the same range and the tank is reduced to molten metal, etc etc. What did annoy me a bit was the way almost all German soldiers were portrayed as honorable people, whereas the Americans like torturing their prisoners, the British lack any troop morale, and the Russians love attacking without any formal declaration of war.
When I looked at the publisher's other offerings, it quickly became apparent that their books are largely aimed at the German-speaking right-wing xenophobe market. One novel set in the mid-21st century, for example, depicts Europe as firmly under the yoke of Islamic oppressors, who have instituted sharia law everywhere but the Vatican, with just a few valiant Germans to resist them.
anyone know where i can download lewis 'scooter' libby's "the apprentice" for free? i don't want to give him any money for it but am afraid if i get it used the pages will all be stuck together with old semen
>>9
I was drunk when I wrote this. I'm sorry.
What I mean is exposing yourself to opposing ideologies is one of the best things you can do for yourself.
not too long ago my mom bought "The Room Where it Happened" by John Bolton despite her being devoutly liberal. Needless to say I was somewhat disappointed but could not help but feel slightly responsible.
Yeah, I don't particulary like (or hate) HP, but I'm not interested in it either, however, a couple of HP fans are kind of starting to drive me nuts while they are waiting (and thay can't read english so they will be like 2 years either waiting for the spanish translation to roll out or learning english) for it so I'd like you people that are reading the book to dump some spoilers =)
>>8
You could have at least worded it a little more interesting.
OMG HERMOINE AND GINNY GET PREGNANT!!!!
Snape had the hots for Harry's mom since they were like 10.
This is somewhat relevant again.
JK Rowling is heinously anus
Harry's mom has got it goin' on
Snape approved
You ever heard of Snape kills Dumbledore?
Dumbledore is gay
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So when's the next book out?
>>No dragons or anything else like that either.
Um, yes.
But that's not the point of asoiaf. It's good because the author has storytelling and character writing talent - the world and the characters feel real and believable, unlike the comical "characters" of 99% of all other fantasy books.
>>15 really lives in a fantasy world, saves him the time to actually think about what people say.
> Um, yes.
Hah, I completely forgot about them. Guess it shows how peripheral they are.
bump
>Other than some walking dead that you rarely hear about, there's no magic at all for the first two books.
>No dragons or anything else like that either.
>Hah, I completely forgot about them. Guess it shows how peripheral they are.
If only they all knew...
>>27
still largely true, if you discard the show, which you should,
dragons are pretty minor, only one of them serving as a vehicle and that's basically it
the dead are as enigmatic as ever
that being said, the series is hardly fantasy anyway, as has been pointed out, it simply has a medieval setting but the characters and their interactions could take place in pretty much every other period, it's being argued that it is sci fi even but that's a whole nother can of beans
>>28
The idea that there's a clear dichotomy between fantasy and sci-fi tends to be kind of muddled, anyway. One can argue that sci-fi should mean things that make a strict attempt to be scientifically plausible even if dealing with things that are not yet a reality, and I'm pretty sure there's a movement that rejects the term "sci-fi" in favor of their own that they specifically define as such, but often times that isn't the case in actual usage. For instance Star Wars is generally classed as sci-fi because it's in space and has lasers and shit but if you ignore that, a lot of the tropes are much more in line with what's typically classed as fantasy. There's plenty of other "sci-fi" that has stuff that's essentially magic in it (possibly thinly disguised under some other more "sciencey" name like "psionics" or such) and there's been plenty of "fantasy" that involves building machines or traveling between planets or whatnot too.