Books & Literature@4-ch

Books & Literature@4-ch

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基本的には英語の使用を強く希望します。ただ日本語板の場合は日本語か英語。
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1: best sellers (4) 2: [Snarky] ITT we post entries from the Devil's Dictionary [Evil] (3) 3: Poetry Thread (33) 4: [Applause]Everytime we finish a book we post here[Praise] (112) 5: Post porn (3) 6: [discord] Philosophy Book Club (2) 7: Pareto (4) 8: best (4) 9: Welcome To The NHK! (15) 10: LOTR (13) 11: Should I let my personal politics affect whose books I buy? (19) 12: I need Harry potter spoilers (18) 13: \ AN APPEAL TO HEAVEN / (3) 14: The Song of Ice and Fire topic (30) 15: Is it dumb to post here? (13) 16: Books you started reading but just coun't get through. (83) 17: Rene Guenon (10) 18: Should I get Norwegian Wood by Haruki Murakami? (11) 19: "Writing is fifty years behind painting." (27) 20: [Cao Cao]Romance of the Three Kingdoms[Liu Bei] (7) 21: Reasons why the Twilight series is an abomination in every sense of the word (61) 22: Examples of fanfics that sold well (18) 23: TAR (7) 24: The Last Question (4) 25: [weaboo]The Asian Saga/The Noble House series (6) 26: SciFi of ages past? (6) 27: Worst Fan Fiction ever! (83) 28: [shortstories] Shortstories Online (14) 29: [Author] Mishima Yukio [Passive gay chauvinist] (8) 30: Good scifi thread (96) 31: Haruki Murakami (63) 32: Mystery Novels / Short Novels (6) 33: Audiobooks on Youtube? (1) 34: Was Philip K Dick right? (3) 35: story of O (5) 36: Return of the King - So what happens to Mouth Of Sauron after destruction of the ring? (3) 37: How you like your epubs? (5) 38: Places to get free books on the Web. (4) 39: japanese old boy (1) 40: The Fountainhead. Spoiler. (53)

best sellers (4)

1 Name: Bookworm : 2022-05-27 09:50 ID:KQGrLt3K

whats some bestseller comix recently? also their sales numbers?

2 Name: Bookworm : 2022-06-27 14:22 ID:d6GPcB8/

Based on my knowledge of the industry, the real up-and-coming cult hit comic/magazine series is the hot new SAoVQ zine. Like all other subscribers, I devoured each issue eagerly as they came in.

Each issue is 10-20 pages long and features a variety of comics.

Produced by anonymous VIPPERS, this mysterious publication always seems to have new comics out, with news updates sent to subscribers via email every week.

Since they are behind the scenes, we can't help but keep up with the very latest. Given the vast array of comics and magazines I subscribe to, it's difficult to pick out a favorite.

If we're talking sales numbers, DADDYCOOL is still beating most of us on sales over a thousand copies sold.

That's nearly five times more than the most popular mainstream comics.
These numbers just scream instant cult classic.

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3 Name: Bookworm : 2022-06-27 19:04 ID:HHZGWLwW

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4 Name: Bookworm : 2022-08-17 09:30 ID:D0AFZ98o

Comics unfortunately don't sell at all :(

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[Snarky] ITT we post entries from the Devil's Dictionary [Evil] (3)

1 Name: Bookworm : 2022-07-17 23:03 ID:KVGmBiBr

You can find the entire thing here -> https://www.gutenberg.org/files/972/972-h/972-h.htm

SELFISH, adj. Devoid of consideration for the selfishness of others.

2 Name: Bookworm : 2022-07-17 23:04 ID:KVGmBiBr

MERCY, n. An attribute beloved of detected offenders.

3 Name: Bookworm : 2022-07-17 23:05 ID:KVGmBiBr

DISCUSSION, n. A method of confirming others in their errors.

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Poetry Thread (33)

1 Name: Bookworm : 2019-05-17 23:31 ID:yHCOemEs

Post your favorites:

秋深き (aki fukaki)
隣は何を (tonari wa nani wo)
する人ぞ (suru hito zo)

  • Matsuo Basho

24 Name: Bookworm : 2021-04-01 15:02 ID:Oyt3kPzC

Captain Hook must remember
Not to scratch his toes.
Captain Hook must watch out
And never pick his nose.
Captain Hook must be gentle
When he shakes your hand.
Captain Hook must be careful
Openin' sardine cans
And playing tag and pouring tea
And turnin' pages of his book.
Lots of folks I'm glad I ain't--
But mostly Captain Hook!

  • Shel Silverstein

25 Name: Bookworm : 2021-04-30 12:03 ID:Heaven

>>24
captain hook must remember not to scratch his balls lmao

26 Name: Bookworm : 2021-05-09 22:59 ID:ELieI/rc

When I consider Life, 'tis all a cheat;
Yet, fool'd with hope, men favour the deceit;
Trust on, and think to morrow will repay:
To morrow's falser than the former day;
Lies worse; and while it says, We shall be blest
With some new joys, cuts off what we possest.
Strange couzenage! none would live past years again,
Yet all hope pleasure in what yet remain;
And, from the dregs of Life, think to receive
What the first sprightly running could not give.
I'm tir'd with waiting for this Chymic Gold,
Which fools us young, and beggars us when old.

27 Name: Bookworm : 2021-12-21 04:53 ID:yFVNZ8sn

Если жизнь тебя обманет
Александр Пушкин

Если жизнь тебя обманет,
Не печалься, не сердись!
В день уныния смирись:
День веселья, верь, настанет.

Сердце в будущем живет;
Настоящее уныло:
Всё мгновенно, всё пройдет;
Что пройдет, то будет мило.

1825

28 Name: Bookworm : 2022-03-23 19:40 ID:b414bC2o

"Candidate" by Joy Division/Ian Curtis

Forced by the pressure
The territories marked
No longer the pleasure
Oh, I've since lost the heart
Corrupted from memory
No longer the power
It's creeping up slowly
The last fatal hour
Oh, I don't know what made me
What gave me the right
To mess with your values
And change wrong to right

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29 Name: Bookworm : 2022-03-24 04:14 ID:Heaven

ugly languages have ugly poetry

30 Name: Bookworm : 2022-04-08 02:55 ID:y9KkCZ8u

Here some original haiku written by me!

Tenchi deflowerd!
The girls have their way with him!
No need for consent!

31 Name: Bookworm : 2022-05-11 17:13 ID:8Fug8uyC

>>30
What inspired you?

32 Name: Bookworm : 2022-05-12 04:42 ID:y9KkCZ8u

33 Name: Bookworm : 2022-05-16 20:45 ID:c38/D0xS

>>32
What an intriguing choice of an image to make haiku out of.

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[Applause]Everytime we finish a book we post here[Praise] (112)

1 Name: Bookworm : 2008-06-11 06:20 ID:CwXuimoY

http://4-ch.net/games/kareha.pl/1206548566/
This is a nice thread. Let's have a book edition.

I just read my first book by Haruki Murakami, "The Wind-Up Bird Chronicle". Murakami gets a lot of praise in these parts, and after reading this book, I can confirm that it isn't unfounded. The book to me felt a bit weaker towards the end, but I really liked hearing the stories of Nomonhan, Siberia, and such.

103 Name: Bookworm : 2021-03-20 20:12 ID:HzO56iFC

>>102
furry detected

104 Name: Bookworm : 2021-04-21 20:05 ID:ZOsDbIyY

>>1
I've read The white nights, by Fedor Dostoievski. A short book, However, a great book.

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106 Name: Bookworm : 2021-04-29 02:17 ID:7kLkyY91

Just finished Watership Down.
A thoroughly captivating read from beginning to end, beyond what I expected even as I already had high expectations. I'm not altogether sure why, but reading about the little group of rabbits fighting against the odds to achieve a happy life through strength and smarts was very satisfying. I also liked the sort of culture the rabbit's were given, it was clever and worked well in the narrative.
I was actually a bit surprised to find the story to be as happy and sentimental as it was; I had heard it was quite the brutal tale, and, while there was blood and death to be sure, it wasn't nearly as grim as I was expecting. I imagine that must be more associated with the movie, considering its own reputation as not being a typical children's film and knowing that The Plague Dogs movie, based on another book by the same author, was actually made more dismal than the book, if I remember correctly.
Altogether, I enjoyed this book immensely. It's no wonder its considered such a classic.

107 Name: Bookworm : 2021-05-12 18:34 ID:CdH/K4w/

>>97
frank heffley is a hero, it is true

108 Name: Bookworm : 2021-06-24 05:31 ID:JrjquRSQ

Read Mrs. Frisby and the Rats of NIMH
Pretty standard fare I'd say, and, though the fact I was familiar with the movie adaptation probably gives me a bias to some extent, I feel the film was in fact a better piece of work, even considering the deus ex machina in the amulet. The novel was surprisingly rather bland and short, the main conflict just sort of came and went without much issue and even that much trouble for Mrs. Frisby aside from her capture; the movie did a lot to show a beautiful advanced world and definitely showed more of the protagonist's emotions and inner challenges. Actually having Jenner present as an antagonist helped the climax a great deal I believe as well, the scientists trying in vain to capture the rats was a lot weaker for an ending.
The story itself was fine at least, but I don't think it's very surprising the adaptation is much more famous.

109 Name: Bookworm : 2021-08-03 02:29 ID:NDrJ8vOO

Just finished reading Neuromancer. Been on my backlog for about ten years at this point, but so glad I finally got around to it. Some aspects are understandbly dated, but this serves only to contrast the amazing vision of “cyberspace” that existed in Gibson’s dreams, long before the advent of the internet. Brilliant stuff.

110 Name: Bookworm : 2021-11-28 18:28 ID:8X+poJvA

I read The Depths of Time by Roger MacBride Allen, borrowed from the Internet Archive’s digital library. It was pretty good, I might read the next book in the seties.

111 Name: Bookworm : 2022-01-07 04:29 ID:qEVgVWXD

Read Raptor Red a little while ago
An alright book, starts off pretty weak but it picks up quickly for the most part. The weird combination of anthropomorphic thoughts/actions alongside these really out of place overly-specific technical descriptions almost killed it for me, though it lessens up as it goes on (or I just got used to it). Word choice was kind of odd throughout the story as well, like the use of "Darwinian" 4 times in the first chapter and the use of the word "shit" like 6 times on one page and then never again. Just obtuse language here and there like the whole sentence "Another vital bit of information was added to the hard disk of her mental computer."
That kind of thing makes it VERY obvious this novel was written by a paleontologist and not a professional writer, which in all fairness has a charm of its own.
Like I said, it does get interesting and becomes a fun read but something about took me out of it every few pages.

112 Name: Bookworm : 2022-02-24 23:55 ID:DmJw1v7C

Finished The Hobbit. Reread it for the firs time in a long while. Might actually be better than I remembered, it's really charming and such a perfect distilled version of fantasy. Tolkien went a long way to make the story feel like it was actually being related to you in a really cozy way. And not being intimately tied into an overarching epic like LOTR is pretty nice too in that it's a short, pleasant read.

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Post porn (3)

1 Name: Bookworm : 2021-12-26 08:48 ID:UTefFU1p

The only genre I care about.

Romance is fine too. Porn without romance feels as empty as romance without porn.

2 Name: Bookworm : 2021-12-26 09:22 ID:Heaven

>Porn without romance feels as empty as romance without porn.

Found the guy that unironically read pornographic magazines for the articles.

3 Name: Bookworm : 2022-01-02 01:17 ID:c3ezFl/Q

>>2
"Reading" in this context is an euphemism for watching at lewd pictures. The articles in porn mags are usually not pornographic at all.

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[discord] Philosophy Book Club (2)

1 Name: Bookworm : 2021-10-22 17:19 ID:K/fquhpO

I'm hosting a reading group on Thoreau's "Civil Disobedience" (~30pp text) tonight with a friend (6:30 pacific / 9:30 eastern) . Some VIPPER will be joining in. Feel free to join and invite your friends! The first half of the discussion will be recorded and uploaded online later.

https://www.facebook.com/events/4339980456118810
https://blog.philosophy.rodeo/2021/10/22/civil-disobedience-ad/

2 Name: Bookworm : 2021-11-22 22:26 ID:gnhln3MQ

Imagine not starting with Greek Mythology.

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Pareto (4)

1 Name: Bookworm : 2021-05-06 19:08 ID:ka+Bbduq

First of all I have only just glanced at titles of the different volumes of this guy's multi-volume magnum opus. You can make fun of me for that if you want to; I just wanted to make this post. Also, fair warning, this will be a bit political, or a lot political. Thus, if the mods do not like this, then feel free to delete.

I took a stats class and this guy came up. He seems to be quite exquisite despite the whole influencing fascism thing. Anyway, one of my friends basically stated the same thing that Pareto did in his four-volume text on society, that is, logical fallacies have entered into the domain of discourse of politics so that everything is now a sore subject and nothing really makes sense anymore with regards to the former. I know that I am not qualified for the following undertaking, but I would like to revisit Pareto's text with another sociological text constructing a scenario where a kakistocracy takes power and

a). Ruins lives with their shitposting;
b). Tarnishes the national discourse on everything;
c). Possibly endangers human life itself if the cabinet takes power at a critical point in human history;

yeah. This last bit is quite grandiose, but do you recall how Euclid basically wrote his Elements with the end goal of constructing the Platonic Solids, and thus the entirety of the cosmos as it was seen at the time? Yes, he actually did this, but I was thinking, "What if we did this same thing, except with Trump at the end?" Yes, I see after writing that I sound essentially as crazy as the "lost gospel of Trump" if you get my drift, although I doubt many will get that reference (I do NOT support that obscure entity I referenced). Any thoughts, or should I just "go back to reddit" or something?

2 Name: Bookworm : 2021-05-11 08:05 ID:Heaven

What exactly would be the purpose of such a text? Trump has not demonstrated to be particularly worthy of such a grandiose text.

This thread is also poorly named, I can't see much discussion about Pareto and his work occurring here considering your focus on writing a "lost gospel of Trump." You would have been better off calling it just that, "ITT we write the lost gospel of Trump." Much more attention grabbing too.

3 Name: Bookworm : 2021-05-11 18:08 ID:ka+Bbduq

>>2

A much kinder response than what I would have received elsewhere. Thank you for your response.

To be clear, by "the lost gospel of Trump" I meant some dreck that came from 8chan/8kun. The lost gospel is a reference to the hypothetical Quelle Gospel. Certainly you must understand now, although I have to assert again that I do not support that conspiracy theory trash.

Point taken with regards to Trump being undeserving of being the subject of the text. I should look into reading Pareto, and in retrospect it would have been best to have read his books before actually making this thread. To be frank I am feeling somewhat lonely and wanted to post on this board since the culture is a bit more friendly than its counterpart on 4chan.

As for Pareto, his sociological text is titled The Mind and Society, in English, and details how most social issues are grounded in logical fallacies. The first volume is dedicated to the discussion of this subject. Some of the rest of the text aligns liberals to foxes and conservatives to lions, and details how they "eat each other" over time, as in there is a cycle in terms of popularity between the two. That is, at least what the wiki states.
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4 Name: Bookworm : 2021-12-13 05:29 ID:Heaven

>>3

>the lost gospel of Trump

Even before he took the biggest of risky gambles, announcing he would run for president in June 2015, Donald Trump already had one very successful business venture going.

A building filled with unit 627m skyscrapers -- just blocks from Times Square, near Madison Square Garden -- it is home to some of the highest-paying condominiums and clubs, marketed as home for the cosmopolitan and elite.

Its highest category, his "Gold" category, has become a calling card of Trump's highly-regulated real estate empire, either a tribute to his wealth or proof of its understatement.

Either way, Trump Tower has the attraction: glass walls lead to gold-leaf fountains connected by gold chandeliers, windows filled with velvet upholstered furniture and gold-plated grille doors opened by gold-plated elevators to private plush living quarters and such gilded highlights as family gazebos and gargoyles.

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best (4)

1 Name: Bookworm : 2021-05-05 05:56 ID:SOf2x5Ac

2 Name: Bookworm : 2021-05-05 07:57 ID:iRVEbTMN

worst

3 Name: Bookworm : 2021-05-11 08:13 ID:Heaven

This is some of the most genius spam I've ever seen.

To the uneducated eye, it may appear lazy. No description. No fitting title. Simply a link and the word "best!" How low in effort can a spammer get?!
Yes, it may seem that way. But when was the last time you clicked on a higher-effort spam?
Normally you see the telltale signs of a spam and ignore it. But here? You might not even have realized this was a spam until it was too late and you clicked the link.
The lack of info, it is subtle. It draws one's attention in more than a proper advertising strategy ever will. What could be behind that unlabelled, random link?
Less is more, learn that well.

Of course, the downside is that once you finally click on the link and check the contents, you quickly realize it's spam and close the tab. So it's not more effective by much, but at least they manage to get a page click!

4 Name: Bookworm : 2022-04-24 03:01 ID:Heaven

After all that, I clicked. Maybe it was part of the plan. Maybe it is quite high effort spam. Maybe I am on a list now, the file is deleted.

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Welcome To The NHK! (15)

1 Name: Bookworm : 2021-02-07 05:26 ID:nK+V/uX3

Have any of you on here read the original Welcome To The NHK novel by Tatsuhiko Takimoto?

6 Name: Bookworm : 2021-02-12 23:09 ID:ExwyfVm+

>>5
the only reason i exist is to suffer reality is a joke all of humanity is slowly fading away into nonexistence. there is beauty in extinction.

7 Name: Bookworm : 2021-02-12 23:26 ID:ExwyfVm+

>>6
im been in a manipulative situation my entire existence all I know about relationships is based off of manipulation;I want to hurt myself in ways that fuck myself over entirely such as running our of money and being forced into the streets or making those I live distrust me, death by a thousand cuts in order to make them despise my existence to the point of my existence being completely unbearable to them. i want to feel despair i can't help but to manipulate others in order to get what I want at this point and all what I want is to do harm to myself and manipulate others into manipulating me to do so. i always get what, its easy when what i do to myself is what normal people avoid by instinct i deserve i always got what i deserved.

8 Name: Bookworm : 2021-02-13 00:04 ID:ExwyfVm+

nobody I know will read this post so i dont care.
i ruined myself financially by wasting money on things that I hate and hurt myself with those things; i intentionally looked at things I wanted and then bought something I didn't want at 2x retail price.
I should be brain-dead with the amount of drugs ive overdosed on, it didn't matter what drug I took, tylenol, antidepressants, opioids, psychedelics, it did not matter as long as it was in my posession, i stopped doing this but I would hoard prescriptions and take around 5x my perscribed dose for a couple of days before stopping suddenly and doing it again.
my family have all emotionally abused me since I can remember, scaring me with suicide and divorce at times, they got less direct with their manipulation as time went on.
I don't deserve friends. I deserve manipulation.
I deserve to be hurt, I want to be hurt.
I don't need people.

9 Name: Bookworm : 2021-02-13 01:22 ID:oHKJy8sU

>>5-8
penis.

10 Name: Bookworm : 2021-02-15 20:56 ID:Heaven

>>5-8
do you maybe want to talk somewhere?

11 Name: Bookworm : 2021-03-12 09:09 ID:G0KR4/kQ

@ExwyfVm+
You seem like a directionless sick fuck. I hope you stay away from me or try to do something constructive.

>>6
Try believing in God or Science maybe. What will save humanity from loss of information and the decay of our world? Perhaps God or science will. The Earth will decay and so will the Sun. Every star dies and black holes evaporate; the universe might end up being nothingness. Nothingness from everything being the same temperature, when the energy sources (stars, black holes, etc.) have all been rendered useless.

How could science be our salvation at or leading up to that point? Time travel, inter-dimensional travel, intergalactic travel, interstellar travel, use of worm holes, traveling to parallel universes, Jupiter brains, quantum computing, nuclear power, etc. could all help.

How could God save us from a doomed existence? God is a powerful being, beyond the constraints and limitations of physical reality. More powerful that those powerful things which die eventually (after millions or maybe billions of years). God is the ultimate subject, and, as I think Hegel pointed out, the ultimate substance.

12 Name: Bookworm : 2021-03-12 09:26 ID:G0KR4/kQ

>>11
How could one put faith in atoms when even they might decay into useless but more simple and stable particles? As sturdy as the physical reality surrounding us seems it might be flimsy in the grand scheme of things. But maybe atoms don't decay and the universe is eternal, somehow never running out of energy sources. In that case I would respect materialism even more. Maybe God is eternal, all knowing, and all powerful. There is comfort in thinking that there is an all-knowing eternal being, for in that case no information (past, present, future, legal, or illegal) is ever lost. Each human's consciousness, memories, and experiences can be thought of as individuals units of information, for example.

It is disingenuous at best and a lie at worst to presume the absolute nature of reality or the truth of the future (especially when the future in question is highly speculative). If I remember correctly Kant said to not lie, for if you lie you take responsibility for reality.

responsible
adj. Liable to be required to give account, as of one's actions or of the discharge of a duty or trust.
adj. Required to render account; answerable

13 Name: Bookworm : 2021-03-12 09:56 ID:G0KR4/kQ

>>12
Reality itself is the best representation of itself. Any person's intentionally false account of reality could be laid asunder if that person missed a relevant facet or tendril of the part of reality in question. If you tell the truth then the power of reality itself supports you. If you tell a lie then the only thing supporting you is your own wit. Lying means that it is you, rather than reality, telling a supposed truth about reality. You then have to maintain the integrity of the false account of reality. If your account of reality becomes not logically sound then it could fall apart. If you want a lie to work then you should only tell variants of a lie when absolutely necessary. Or better yet, craft the lie so you don't have to tell variants of it. If you tell variants of a lie, consider if the people whom you told will ever communicate with each other.

The opposite of truth is falsehood: when it is held for truth, it is called error
https://www.the-philosophy.com/kant-right-to-lie

https://www.wikihow.com/Lie

14 Name: Bookworm : 2021-03-16 01:16 ID:nK+V/uX3

>>11

God doesn't exist.

15 Name: Bookworm : 2021-03-18 21:11 ID:Heaven

Damn...

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LOTR (13)

1 Name: Bookworm : 2014-03-27 04:56 ID:T+AmmFo7

Best. Series. Ever.

Am I wrong?

4 Name: Bookworm : 2014-05-10 02:23 ID:j6lGrkhW

Rereading the series. Just finished the second book. Agree with >>3.

5 Name: cockjizz : 2015-05-07 21:57 ID:U1Zx0DHz

>>1

Yes you are wrong. It was good, but definitely not the best. Still, it's a matter of opinion.

6 Name: cockjizz : 2015-05-07 21:57 ID:U1Zx0DHz

>>1

Yes you are wrong. It was good, but definitely not the best. Still, it's a matter of opinion.

7 Name: Bookworm : 2015-06-18 23:46 ID:EP43V4eR

I read The Hobbit and then LOTR when I was a teenager in the 80's. Some parts of the trilogy were really slow-going, and I didn't fully grasp everything, but still enjoyed it a lot. The Hobbit was completely enchanting, and I couldn't put that book down. I'd stay up late through the night to read it, over and over again.

But I also greatly enjoyed stories by Robert E. Howard (Kull, Conan), Moorcock (Hawkmoon, Elric), Lovecraft, various other pulp-era stuff that was later compiled into book format, and last but not least, the great Jules Verne.

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13 Name: Bookworm : 2021-02-04 01:37 ID:JV5CmiM5

Dwarves are Jewish

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