>>972 It's not slave mentality, I'm not talking about work, I'm talking about going for a run up the hill with lots of bags of sugar hehe. I push a mouse 9-5 then rip a bong and sprint round town while I carry stuff. There's nothing you can do at a gym you can't do for free with your imagination! >>968 all good points though. I personally love to run when it's stormy weather but I know I'm weird.