Language @4-ch

Allright, im only taking half a year of japanese, which is extremly fun and rather easy (realitivly easy) but when im done with this year i wish to progress, so far we are at quarter, and we've learned the basics of Hiragana, weve brushed a bit on kanji charecters, and ive studied them a bit on my own time (i plan on taking japanese in college, so next fall =/ Anywhos, would the lessons on about.com work well? they seem to follow the order of learning simple stuff then applying the simple stuff to harder sentances and such.

The thing that I find hard is translation part, I can remeber simple phrases and such, "Kon-nichiwa, hajime mashite?" But how do they translate over to english, like notebook = NOOTO, but how would you go around translating the japenese charecters to make sence in english...seems like a daunting task =/

also my teacher is a faggot and wont let me get an A in the class, its stayed at a B+ 89% for this entire year T___T

oh, almost forgot, my teacher just says, THATS HOW IT WORKS IN JAPANESE, without any explanation on why it works that way or how it got that way

I like to think of different languages, especially Japanese and English, in terms of races in Starcraft. The overall purpose is the same (in this case, communication), but the more you try to break it down into individual units, the less similar they are. There's really not a one-to-one conversion for every word, since some things cover more than one word (or fractions of one) when translated. You just sort of have to work with what's there. Expose yourself to the language as much as you can...that's how you learned your first language, with all its inconsistencies.

And get both hiragana and katakana deeply engraved into your brain as soon as you can. The more they're reflexes to you, the better off you'll be. Do not, under any circumstances, put it off. Trust me.

Also, see if you can find some good japanese learning books and other resources on the internets. About.com is okay, but there's a lot of better stuff. In any case, having the same thing explained a few different ways will help you learn it from a more round perspective.

Find people to practice with. Preferably including at least one native speaker.

allright, thanks for responding, ive got a few sources, and i figure i can just use skype or some shit to find a actual native speaker...i do know a girl who goes to japan every now and then (shes got grand-parents down that way) and she can speak it rather well....also that Starcraft simile works great, that cleared up some confusion, thanks!

I learn Japanese with a friend from Japan, he constantly corrected me that I even thought that I could not learn the language. Hiroghama is a easy in comparison with many spelling words. Once he was so indignant that he gave me a laser engraved with hirogam !!! It's in my head that he settles that he ordered the engraving of these guys https://polarengraving.com/ just because he's sick of my disgusting reading and pronunciation.

Watch anime with subtitres it helps

watch arime* wirrf* subtitres it herrps*

Watch Arniemay. Get to the chopper ahhahaahahahhahahahahahahaha

Is there anybody who learns or knows Dutch? If there is, I'll be joyful to understand why he/she studies so unpopular tongue.

Why unpopular?
I'm learning it because just because it's nice :-)

>tongue

The dutch people will speak to you in english even if you know the language

>>6
See also: Literally every other non-natively English speaking European people that have lost their internal sense of identity under the locus of the Eternal Anglo's transnational melting pot.

v: redness

When I went to the Netherlands, if we asked a local for help they'd say "Are you English?" and when we say "no no we're Scottish" they'd totally change, all smiles and say "Ah, okay then, welcome, how can I help you?". This also happened to me in France and Spain

dus zijn er hier nog wat verdwaalde nederlanders?

"Learning these 9 languages could lead to higher-paying jobs in Britain" "9 languages which will help you earn more in Britain" German, Arabic, French, Dutch, Spanish, Japanese, Russian, Italian, Mandarin Chinese. http://uk.businessinsider.com/9-languages-which-will-help-you-earn-more-in-britain-2016-9

it takes a lot of time though..

"though" (O.O)

>>1

>Britain
>Arabic
>Spanish
>Chinese

the absolute state of britbongistan~

hey
i'm very interested in chinese but i don't know where to start, i thought about learning the hanzi but, does mandarin use the same ideograms? do i have to learn mandarin or traditional chinese?
any good methods?

I suggest you learn Mandarin, which is spoken by most of Chinese people. The easiest way is to find a Chinese girlfriend lol.

i want to learn chinese too.. what the first step to learn chinese? and its not easy to get chinese girlfriend if they cannot speak english u know.. lol

Did you really just say mandarin or traditional?
mandarin and cantonese are the 2 main chinese dialects.
also, the methods of writing are simplifed and traditional, simplified was made to increase the literacy rate sometime around Mao and all the prgressive communist stuff

I speak some Mandarin due to where I grew up and taking it in school.

Mandarin is what most speak, so unless you want to like - go to Hong Kong, just learn Mandarin.

I recommend starting out learning some traditional and then transitioing into simplified (there are many shared characters and simplified just makes some of them faster to write) Traditional is dumb in the long run really.

As for where to start I'd say try to look for some software or a book that you can get cheap or for free and look up more stuff online.

some links from my high school Chinese/math teacher

Dont do it. It is crazy chink-spik, and GT is perfect with it.

CPC PLZ

it's hard, especially the pronounciation...

i dont ever plan to learn chinese however i know shyeh shyeh means thank you yet damn is thier culture and food fucking amazing