Language @4-ch

amie français voila un forum similaire a 4ch pour nous http://fr2ch.bbs.fc2.com/ je compte sur vous pour faire vivre le forum

[French]Nouveau Manga, Bandes Dessinee
http://4-ch.net/language/kareha.pl/1222865589/l50

Allo!Je suis une femme qui habite aux Etat-Unis.
J'apprend le langue francais.
Mais c'est tres difficile de trouver le gens qui parle francais pres d'ici.
On va parler en francais.

Heh. Pourquoi pas? Moi j'viens du Canada. Le Francais c'est ma langue d'origine.

Tout d'abord, je ne pense pas que le BBS de Fc2 soit un bon support pour réellement créer un équivalent francophone à 2channel. On ne voit même pas d'aperçu des posts sur la page d'accueil, seulement les titres des sujets, et de plus, la popularité du BBS baisse certainement énormément en étant "hébergé" sur fc2.

Pour créer un équivalent francophone à 2ch il faudrait :
-Utiliser un système similaire à 2ch (regarde en bas le lien vers Kareha)
-L'héberger sur un hébergeur sûrement payant (pour la qualité du service)
-Réserver un nom de domaine (payant, mais pas cher)
-S'assurer du succès d'une telle entreprise.

Les trois premières étapes sont relativement simples à mettre en place, le plus dur étant de choisir un nom convenable pour les francophones, le nom de domaine qui va avec et le design du site (entièrement copié sur 2ch ? Une touche française ?). Une fois ceci réalisé arrive l'étape la plus difficile : "rendre" le BBS populaire.

Il faut pour cela qu'un utilisateur débarquant sache ce qu'est ce BBS, quelles en sont les sections, les règles, les principes (posts anonymes, sage, concept de bump, liste des threads, rapidité et variété des sujets, etc).

Je pense qu'il est inutile d'essayer de popularizer le site, si les gens sont intéressés, ils y viendront d'eux mêmes. Après tout, c'est comme ça que j'ai débarqué ici, ça fait déjà quelques années.

Ce qu'il faut vraiment, c'est l'engagement de quelqu'un (ou d'un groupe), pour lancer le truc d'un point de vue technique.

How easy is French to learn?

>>7
It depends. If you already speak a Roman language, it can be fairly easy. Even with English, knowing that a lot of your "more-than-three-syllables" words are almost the same in French but more common, you already have an innate amount of vocabulary.
I think the hardest is the obfuscated orthography and the legendary hard grammar.
I can say it as a fact, the majority of French don't master their own language, you can see it (alas) everywhere, from the internet to newspapers and classrooms.

The particularity of French is the irregular grammar, though. Learning the tenses for each groups of verbs is daunting and boring, you may even abandon the process when you see that irregular verbs are every-fucking-where.

My best advise to improve in French is to focus on grammar for the serious part, and for the practice, you have more than 500 years of genius literature awaiting you, from the renaissance poets and philosophers to the more modern writers.
Reading French is a very important part of learning it, for French is in my opinion much more divided between its spoken and read forms. Even for French, those that often read in their youth tend to master the language better than others.

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　　　　　|Д｀)　　　Personne n'est ici.
　　　　　|⊂　　　　　Je peux danser maintenant !
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　　　　　♪　　☆
　　　♪　　　／ ＼　　　 RANTA TAN
　　　　　　ヽ(´Д｀;)ﾉ 　　RANTA TAN
　　 　 　　　 (　 へ) 　　　RANTA RANTA
　 　 　 　 　　く 　　　　　　TAN

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　　　　　♪　／ ＼　　　RANTA RANTA
　　　　　　ヽ（;´Д｀）ﾉ　　RANTA TAN
　　 　 　　　 (へ　 ) 　　　RANTA TANTA

Well, French is hard for non english speakers...

>>1
Dommage semble HS.
>>9
Eh, mais je suis là moi !!!
On danse ensemble ?

Sinon rdv sur L'Entremonde.

Do you like to eat snails?

Merci

>>1
Ils sont sur L'Entremonde les Français mon petit pote.

Esperanto thread!
I'm told that this book is the best in terms of how easy it is.

http://www.amazon.com/dp/0939785064/ref=cm_sw_su_dp

There's a youtuber I like to watch who reviews language learning books. He's done a few esperanto books.

Here are two video reviews of those books:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_sRAWanlcxw
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TnO9W3HRR40

Not specifically esperanto but there is an awesome program called anki which is a flashcard program that figures out when the best time to review something when it is best to memorise it, plus there are tons of pre-made decks for esperanto

and of course there is stuff like lernu and kurso de esperanto, and the sidebar in the esperanto subredddit has a bunch or resources too.

Not really a resource, but we have an image board
8ch.net/esperanto/

Not specifically esperanto but there is an awesome program called anki which is a flashcard program that figures out when the best time to review something when it is best to memorise it, plus there are tons of pre-made decks for esperanto

and of course there is stuff like lernu and kurso de esperanto, and the sidebar in the esperanto subredddit has a bunch or resources too.

Firefox addon to show popup dictionary for selected word
https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/eklegu/
Chrome addon to do the same thing
https://chrome.google.com/webstore/detail/plena-vortaro/kfnageeffnimnlohcgpnplfdgdnmolpo

Ah, heard about that one. But if something is on stream it usually means its censored to shit, so I'm not that tempted to bother.

>>8 can't be censored if there's nothing to censor in the first place, though maybe that means the content itself is too tame for your wild lifestyle

Bonjour! I learned that in French they avoir un espace avant les signes de ponctuation, I was wondering if the last word came at the end of a line, would the punctuation mark come onto the next line or would you put the word with the question mark together on the next line? C'est pour un ami. Merci!

Do this :

this is the end of the sentence !

Don't do this :

this is the end of the sentence
!

And if the first choice isn't possible then

Do this :

this is the end of the
sentence !

They also put spaces around their « quotation marks » , which looks somewhat offputting.

>>3 Merci beaucoup pour your help, I managed to find l'answer for the game I was working on in 2019! Je aussi had to look up >>4 back then so merci for your advice too!

Don't they follow that weird rule of spacing before the punctuation like this !

>>6 Yes that was the entire point of the thread, whether to use a non-breaking space there

Allright, im only taking half a year of japanese, which is extremly fun and rather easy (realitivly easy) but when im done with this year i wish to progress, so far we are at quarter, and we've learned the basics of Hiragana, weve brushed a bit on kanji charecters, and ive studied them a bit on my own time (i plan on taking japanese in college, so next fall =/ Anywhos, would the lessons on about.com work well? they seem to follow the order of learning simple stuff then applying the simple stuff to harder sentances and such.

The thing that I find hard is translation part, I can remeber simple phrases and such, "Kon-nichiwa, hajime mashite?" But how do they translate over to english, like notebook = NOOTO, but how would you go around translating the japenese charecters to make sence in english...seems like a daunting task =/

also my teacher is a faggot and wont let me get an A in the class, its stayed at a B+ 89% for this entire year T___T

oh, almost forgot, my teacher just says, THATS HOW IT WORKS IN JAPANESE, without any explanation on why it works that way or how it got that way

I like to think of different languages, especially Japanese and English, in terms of races in Starcraft. The overall purpose is the same (in this case, communication), but the more you try to break it down into individual units, the less similar they are. There's really not a one-to-one conversion for every word, since some things cover more than one word (or fractions of one) when translated. You just sort of have to work with what's there. Expose yourself to the language as much as you can...that's how you learned your first language, with all its inconsistencies.

And get both hiragana and katakana deeply engraved into your brain as soon as you can. The more they're reflexes to you, the better off you'll be. Do not, under any circumstances, put it off. Trust me.

Also, see if you can find some good japanese learning books and other resources on the internets. About.com is okay, but there's a lot of better stuff. In any case, having the same thing explained a few different ways will help you learn it from a more round perspective.

Find people to practice with. Preferably including at least one native speaker.

allright, thanks for responding, ive got a few sources, and i figure i can just use skype or some shit to find a actual native speaker...i do know a girl who goes to japan every now and then (shes got grand-parents down that way) and she can speak it rather well....also that Starcraft simile works great, that cleared up some confusion, thanks!

I learn Japanese with a friend from Japan, he constantly corrected me that I even thought that I could not learn the language. Hiroghama is a easy in comparison with many spelling words. Once he was so indignant that he gave me a laser engraved with hirogam !!! It's in my head that he settles that he ordered the engraving of these guys https://polarengraving.com/ just because he's sick of my disgusting reading and pronunciation.

Watch anime with subtitres it helps

watch arime* wirrf* subtitres it herrps*

Watch Arniemay. Get to the chopper ahhahaahahahhahahahahahahaha

who needs books or listening to more correct use of the language in conversations when ive got anime B)