Language @4-ch

Language @4-ch

English: Talk about languages, communication, linguistics or anything of that nature. All languages are welcome for discussion, and everyone should respect each other's language. Please keep Japanese language related discussion here thank you.

日本語: 言語、コミュニケーション、言語学または何についてでも話してください。全ての言語が議論のために歓迎され、誰でも互いの言語を尊重しなければなりません。日本語に関連した議論はここでしてください。

Français: Parler des langues, la communication, la linguistique ou n'importe quoi de cette nature. Toutes langues sont bienvenues pour la discussion, et tout le monde doit respecter la langue. S'il vous plaît garder la discussion en Japonais ici, merci beaucoup.

Español: Para charlar sobre idiomas, la lingüística, y qualquier cosa de ese tipo. Todos los idiomas son bienvenidos para la discusión y todos deben respetar el idioma del uno al otro. Por favor mantengan discusiones en Japonés aquí, gracias.

Svenska: Här talar vi om språk, lingvistik o. dyl. Alla språk är välkomna och ni förväntas respektera andra användares språk. Vänligen håll Japanska-diskussioner inom detta forum, tack!

Deutsch: Gespräche über Sprachen, Kommunikation, Linguistik oder Ähnliches. Alle Sprachen sind willkommen und jeder sollte die anderen Sprachen respektieren. Bitte Diskussionen über die japanische Sprache auf dieses Forum beschränken, vielen Dank.

Português: Converse sobre idiomas, comunicação, lingüística ou qualquer tema relacionado. Todos os idiomas são bemvindos para a discussão, e todos devem respeitar o idioma alheio de cada um. Por favor mantenham as discussões relacionadas ao Japonês aqui. Obrigado.
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Imageboard en español (97)

1 Name: Anonymous Linguist : 2010-04-18 21:09 ID:cRWcFBHT

Hablamos español y no intentamos comportarnos como retrasados provenientes de 4****. Estamos en http://cuatrochan.org/ y disculpen el spam~

88 Name: Anonymous Linguist : 2018-09-12 05:56 ID:Heaven

>>87
La misma mierda que Chispa antes de morir pero con el 1% de sus usuarios.

89 Name: Anonymous Linguist : 2020-01-29 20:59 ID:22kjTjHb

lolnada y Nido murieron. Ahora sólo nos queda BaI, Hispa y Propóleo.

90 Name: Anonymous Linguist : 2020-04-23 13:34 ID:Xfmr5APG

Wired 7

91 Name: Anonymous Linguist : 2020-08-20 02:42 ID:byaB5ueF

no se como pero lolnada sigue "vivo"

92 Name: Anonymous Linguist : 2020-08-20 03:41 ID:h0wQzjLV

Los Chupacabras

93 Name: Anonymous Linguist : 2021-04-06 19:47 ID:vRQjRY1e

94 Name: Anonymous Linguist : 2021-04-06 19:48 ID:vRQjRY1e

95 Name: Anonymous Linguist : 2021-04-12 05:28 ID:DApWVE4Q

Vampiros.ml

96 Name: Anonymous Linguist : 2022-04-01 22:21 ID:tKwrFpcf

97 Name: Anonymous Linguist : 2022-05-30 21:31 ID:g7Im56QJ

esta semana, va caer Hispachan, no sin antes haber borrado a /mx/, donde se podrá verdetextear en mexicano ahora...

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Learning japanese (sensai is a prick) (8)

1 Name: Anonymous Linguist : 2008-10-09 18:28 ID:6s/AOiBJ

Allright, im only taking half a year of japanese, which is extremly fun and rather easy (realitivly easy) but when im done with this year i wish to progress, so far we are at quarter, and we've learned the basics of Hiragana, weve brushed a bit on kanji charecters, and ive studied them a bit on my own time (i plan on taking japanese in college, so next fall =/ Anywhos, would the lessons on about.com work well? they seem to follow the order of learning simple stuff then applying the simple stuff to harder sentances and such.

The thing that I find hard is translation part, I can remeber simple phrases and such, "Kon-nichiwa, hajime mashite?" But how do they translate over to english, like notebook = NOOTO, but how would you go around translating the japenese charecters to make sence in english...seems like a daunting task =/

also my teacher is a faggot and wont let me get an A in the class, its stayed at a B+ 89% for this entire year T___T

oh, almost forgot, my teacher just says, THATS HOW IT WORKS IN JAPANESE, without any explanation on why it works that way or how it got that way

2 Name: Anonymous Linguist : 2008-10-09 19:22 ID:GBVYNRqr

I like to think of different languages, especially Japanese and English, in terms of races in Starcraft. The overall purpose is the same (in this case, communication), but the more you try to break it down into individual units, the less similar they are. There's really not a one-to-one conversion for every word, since some things cover more than one word (or fractions of one) when translated. You just sort of have to work with what's there. Expose yourself to the language as much as you can...that's how you learned your first language, with all its inconsistencies.

And get both hiragana and katakana deeply engraved into your brain as soon as you can. The more they're reflexes to you, the better off you'll be. Do not, under any circumstances, put it off. Trust me.

Also, see if you can find some good japanese learning books and other resources on the internets. About.com is okay, but there's a lot of better stuff. In any case, having the same thing explained a few different ways will help you learn it from a more round perspective.

Find people to practice with. Preferably including at least one native speaker.

3 Name: Anonymous Linguist : 2008-10-10 09:46 ID:iuu95lsW

allright, thanks for responding, ive got a few sources, and i figure i can just use skype or some shit to find a actual native speaker...i do know a girl who goes to japan every now and then (shes got grand-parents down that way) and she can speak it rather well....also that Starcraft simile works great, that cleared up some confusion, thanks!

4 Name: Anonymous Linguist : 2008-10-11 17:36 ID:Heaven

Since you spell sensei "sensai" I wouldn't give you an A either. Also, sage for obvious troll thread.

5 Name: YuruyBuriy : 2018-09-13 22:31 ID:k6lMuDqn

I learn Japanese with a friend from Japan, he constantly corrected me that I even thought that I could not learn the language. Hiroghama is a easy in comparison with many spelling words. Once he was so indignant that he gave me a laser engraved with hirogam !!! It's in my head that he settles that he ordered the engraving of these guys https://polarengraving.com/ just because he's sick of my disgusting reading and pronunciation.

6 Name: Anonymous Linguist : 2021-09-01 14:11 ID:k2GXtWQ2

Watch anime with subtitres it helps

7 Name: Anonymous Linguist : 2021-10-05 03:01 ID:qQ71A5dw

watch arime* wirrf* subtitres it herrps*

8 Name: Anonymous Linguist : 2022-05-25 15:11 ID:HfNaL/+Z

Watch Arniemay. Get to the chopper ahhahaahahahhahahahahahahaha

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What's the worst language? (30)

1 Name: Anonymous Linguist : 2013-01-23 12:18 ID:IMlqzpyd

What is the worst language in your opinion? As a really wordy guy, I don't really like english. It's useful, nice to hear and easy to speak but to write, I really hate it. It's too hard and even sometimes impossible to precisely express what I'd like to say.

I'm not into japanese anymore. It's kinda cool to speak but honnestly I got fed up with the culture (few travels and a lot of disillusions). I'm more into korean and cantonese (I don't speak it very well but I'm in love with Hong Kong's cinema).

What is yours?

21 Name: Anonymous Linguist : 2021-01-06 18:55 ID:jq/qb3qU

>>19
This is such a retarded point, in all of those instances the word for orange remained the same.

22 Name: Anonymous Linguist : 2021-01-06 19:00 ID:jq/qb3qU

>>19
If you actually wanted to make the point you were trying to make, you should have used words that actually do change based on politeness or context, like "dude", "sir", "guy", "man", "mr.", or so on. But even that pales in comparison to Japanese, and you know it.

23 Name: Anonymous Linguist : 2021-01-31 04:28 ID:2oX4TzAM

Nigger languages like Arabic Hebrew and Farsi.

24 Name: Anonymous Linguist : 2021-02-02 01:16 ID:VSzW6MZR

> Nigger languages
> Arabic Hebrew and Farsi

Nigger languages would more be the Bantu family.

25 Name: Anonymous Linguist : 2021-02-07 10:37 ID:2oX4TzAM

>>24
Or Hindi.

26 Name: Anonymous Linguist : 2021-02-23 01:20 ID:HIzd8DHH

>>18
How is this a bad thing? It allows for more ways of expression through simple changes.

27 Name: Anonymous Linguist : 2021-03-26 07:40 ID:D1/yrE0u

Vietnamese is so grating to the ears. The open vowels, implosives, and tones (especially the nga tone) seem to be designed to cause maximal discomfort.

28 Name: Anonymous Linguist : 2021-07-17 18:06 ID:c23dv14k

>>23

>Arabic

ngmi, numidus.
it's probably the best language in the world

ما ذَلّت لغةُ شعبٍ إلا ذلّ ، ولا
انحطَّت إلا كان أمرُهُ فى ذهابٍ وإدبارٍ ، ومن هذا يفرِضُ الأجنبيُّ
المستعمرُ لغتَه فرضاً على الأمةِ المستعمَرَة ، ويركبهم بها ويُشعرهم
عَظَمَته فيها ، ويَستَلحِقُهُم من ناحيتها ، فيحكم عليهم أحكاماً ثلاثةً
فى عملٍ واحدٍ : أما الأولُ : فحبْسُ لغتهم فى لغتِهِ سِجناً مؤبداً . وأما
الثاني : فالحكمُ على ماضيهم بالقتل محواً ونسياناً . وأما التالثُ :
فتقييدُ مستقبلهم فى الأغلالِ التى يصنعُها ، فأمرهم من بعدِها لأمرِهِ
تَبَعٌ .

29 Name: Anonymous Linguist : 2021-11-06 05:09 ID:Heaven

>>7
>>13

>tangalog

since nobody else could be fucked to say it in the last four years,
TAGALOG
you stupid autistic fuck. jesus christ.

30 Name: Anonymous Linguist : 2022-04-22 15:18 ID:/wmMo0GG

tangalong

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Post every english word where pronunciation doesn't match spelling. (21)

1 Name: Anonymous Linguist : 2021-12-16 17:11 ID:Heaven

wood -> vud
attack -> atak
match -> mach
running -> ranin
every -> everi
weeaboo -> viabu

12 Name: Anonymous Linguist : 2022-01-25 10:07 ID:Heaven

Cerberus -> Kerberos

13 Name: Anonymous Linguist : 2022-01-25 10:11 ID:Heaven

Japan -> Nihon
Siberia -> Sibir'
cat -> koshak

14 Name: Anonymous Linguist : 2022-01-25 17:29 ID:Heaven

lolicon -> lolikon

15 Name: Anonymous Linguist : 2022-03-05 03:46 ID:Heaven

colonel -> kernel

16 Name: Anonymous Linguist : 2022-03-11 04:14 ID:Heaven

sync -> sink

17 Name: Anonymous Linguist : 2022-03-23 04:20 ID:9BAtrl3F

niece -> niis
knees -> niis
contra -> kontora

18 Name: Anonymous Linguist : 2022-03-23 04:20 ID:Heaven

beach -> bich
bitch -> bich

19 Name: Anonymous Linguist : 2022-03-24 12:05 ID:TnuSPIei

Why are you saying these words weird?

20 Name: Anonymous Linguist : 2022-03-25 04:37 ID:Heaven

Bekaus jour languag iz shit

21 Name: Anonymous Linguist : 2022-03-27 10:47 ID:Heaven

“niece” and ”knees” don't sound the same, beach≠bitch, school≠skull, wood is just wood

And my captcha is skabotion ;)

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Japanese Learning スレ (620)

1 Name: Anonymous Linguist : 2016-10-07 18:25 ID:OeOc9C3x

Cornucopia of Resources / Guide
Read the guide before asking questions.
http://djt.neocities.org/

611 Name: Anonymous Linguist : 2018-10-22 18:56 ID:okxXriqB

мудак, я тебе яйца оторву пидор вонючий

и проститутку свою забери. суку эту вонючую

612 Name: Anonymous Linguist : 2018-10-22 21:56 ID:okxXriqB

ваши бабушки не виноваты. просто россия убивает.

613 Name: Anonymous Linguist : 2018-10-22 21:56 ID:okxXriqB

азиатское магнитное поле

614 Name: Anonymous Linguist : 2018-10-23 12:53 ID:okxXriqB

15:33 Медведев анонсировал введение запрета на вывод денег на Украину

15:33 Медведев анонсировал введение запрета на вывод денег на Украину

15:33 Медведев анонсировал введение запрета на вывод денег на Украину

15:33 Медведев анонсировал введение запрета на вывод денег на Украину

15:33 Медведев анонсировал введение запрета на вывод денег на Украину

615 Name: Anonymous Linguist : 2021-09-01 14:14 ID:Heaven

年内結婚に向けて調整が進んでいることが明らかになった秋篠宮家の長女眞子さま(29)が、婚約が内定している小室圭さん(29)と共に心境を説明される機会を設ける方向で宮内庁が検討していることが1日、同庁関係者への取材で分かった。秋篠宮さまはこれまで「実際に結婚するという段階になったら、今までの経緯も含めてきちんと話すことは大事だ」と述べていた。

小室圭さん 弁護士試験、結果は12月中旬までに発表される見通し

 一般の結納に当たる「納采の儀」などはせず、眞子さまは婚姻届を提出して皇籍離脱し、渡米して小室さんと生活する見通し。

 眞子さまが、一時金を辞退する意向を示したことに対し、政府が可否を検討する方針であることも分かった。

616 Name: Anonymous Linguist : 2021-09-01 14:32 ID:Heaven

sage

617 Name: Anonymous Linguist : 2021-12-07 09:59 ID:0BsP7Vsx

age, good thread. Too much spam though.

618 Name: Anonymous Linguist : 2021-12-07 12:17 ID:Heaven

>>617
the entire thread is spam you greasy fuck

619 Name: Anonymous Linguist : 2022-03-21 13:00 ID:ZF3/s2Jq

>>100
;_; god damn it all

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Nederlands (9)

1 Name: Anonymous Linguist : 2011-04-18 19:03 ID:MwnSnD9T

Is there anybody who learns or knows Dutch? If there is, I'll be joyful to understand why he/she studies so unpopular tongue.

2 Name: Anonymous Linguist : 2011-07-10 11:54 ID:53ujIRPI

Why unpopular?
I'm learning it because just because it's nice :-)

3 Name: garcel : 2013-03-13 04:40 ID:OhqUJd/Q

>tongue

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6 Name: Anonymous Linguist : 2021-09-01 14:12 ID:cYD2QCLD

The dutch people will speak to you in english even if you know the language

7 Name: Anonymous Linguist : 2021-09-17 03:31 ID:Heaven

>>6
See also: Literally every other non-natively English speaking European people that have lost their internal sense of identity under the locus of the Eternal Anglo's transnational melting pot.

v: redness

8 Name: Anonymous Linguist : 2022-01-05 15:31 ID:Heaven

When I went to the Netherlands, if we asked a local for help they'd say "Are you English?" and when we say "no no we're Scottish" they'd totally change, all smiles and say "Ah, okay then, welcome, how can I help you?". This also happened to me in France and Spain

9 Name: Anonymous Linguist : 2022-03-16 15:42 ID:FNVhSYcF

dus zijn er hier nog wat verdwaalde nederlanders?

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這是中文板!!! (91)

1 Name: Anonymous Linguist : 2006-03-14 21:11 ID:L9AEFNU8

你好, 這裡是中文板, 我們可以寫什麽都可, 只要是中文便可.

82 Name: Anonymous Linguist : 2011-05-17 14:32 ID:l0ZJUvOW

臣領旨

83 Name: Anonymous Linguist : 2011-05-20 06:33 ID:Ah//WPjA

没有人看这儿吗?

84 Name: n : 2012-03-02 09:30 ID:Tdlq15fv

LOL
中文版

板 - refers to a wood block

85 Name: Anonymous Linguist : 2012-04-26 05:45 ID:cUUune0w

板: 看"板"
版: 版本
此串用"板"沒錯啊

86 Name: Anonymous Linguist : 2012-09-29 02:18 ID:r4gp6gjw

表示这里还有活着的中国人存在。。。
代表2ch吧问候4ch

87 Name: air kangen : 2016-03-07 02:51 ID:4NQ5kCa0

動之徐生保此道者不欲盈夫唯不盈故能敝而新成致虚極守靜篤萬物竝作吾以觀復夫物芸芸各
歸其根歸根曰靜是謂復命復命曰常知常曰明不知常妄作凶知常容容之公公之王王之天天之道
道之久沒身不殆大上下知有之其次親而譽之其次畏之其次侮之信不足焉有不信焉悠兮其貴言
功成事遂百姓皆謂我自然大道廢有仁義智慧出有大僞六親不和有孝慈國家昏亂有忠臣絶聖棄
智民利百倍絶仁棄義民復孝慈絶巧棄利盜賊無有此三者以爲文不足故令有所屬見素抱樸少私
寡欲絶學無憂唯之與阿相去幾何善之與惡相去何若人之所畏不可不畏荒兮其未央哉衆人熙熙
如享太牢如春登臺我獨泊兮其未兆如嬰兒之未孩纍纍兮若無所歸衆人皆有餘而我獨若遺我愚
人之心也哉沌沌兮俗人昭昭我獨昏昏俗人察察我獨悶悶澹兮其若海飂兮若無止衆人皆有以而
我獨頑似鄙我獨異於人而貴食母孔德之容惟道是從道之爲物惟恍惟惚惚兮恍兮其中有象恍兮
惚兮其中有物窈兮冥兮其中有精其精其眞其中有信自古及今其名不去以閲衆甫吾何以知衆甫
之状哉以此曲則全枉則直窪則盈敝則新少則得多則惑是以聖人抱一爲天下式不自見故明不自
是故彰不自伐故有功不自矜故長夫惟不爭故天下莫能與之爭古之所謂曲則全者豈虚言哉誠全
而歸之稀言自然故飄風不終朝驟雨不終日孰爲此者天地天地尚不能久而況尽人乎故從事尽道
者道者同尽道德者同尽德失者同尽失同尽道者道亦樂得之同尽德者德亦樂得之同尽失者失亦

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88 Name: Anonymous Linguist : 2017-11-15 13:04 ID:BAbSK0dK

Chinese wooden boards are nice but Hokkien wooden boards are better

89 Name: Anonymous Linguist : 2018-01-01 16:11 ID:IwCxU+PV

yeah

90 Name: Anonymous Linguist : 2021-09-01 13:56 ID:JuXuDpvW

台湾是中国

91 Name: Real_Anonymous? : 2022-03-11 07:06 ID:kPWoJOx5

地球人何苦为难地球人

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Doitsch (65)

1 Name: Anonymous Linguist : 2006-03-08 20:20 ID:ofbboDgV

Reden wir deutsch und deutlich.

56 Name: Anonymous Linguist : 2011-07-26 23:43 ID:9QoOWOD5

http://3-ch.org
Ich hol's einfahc nochmal hoch

57 Name: Anonymous Linguist : 2011-11-17 19:56 ID:JDC6RnFf

 | ̄ ̄ ̄ ̄ ̄ ̄ ̄ ̄|
 |RE-LAUNCH!!!!!!|
 |________|
    ∧∧ ||
    ( ゚ヮ゚) || 
    / づΦ 

http://3-ch.org

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60 Name: kangen : 2016-03-07 02:42 ID:IVvTymzy

Als Deutscher finde ich meine Muttersprache echt erbärmlich. Englisch, Japanisch, Spanisch und Latein lagen mir immer mehr.

61 Name: Anonymous Linguist : 2020-12-04 14:19 ID:+kNt0RyV

>>60
Japanisch und Latein kann ich verstehen.
Aber warum Englisch? Englisch ist bloß vereinfachtes Deutsch.

62 Name: Anonymous Linguist : 2020-12-04 22:55 ID:cLQ23rjs

Meine Familie is Ämisch, un sie schwetze Pennsylfanisch Deitsch. Ich kann en bissche deitch ferstehen, aber kein hochdeutsch sprech' ich. Mer wohn' in Florida. Meine familie kommt aus Indiana, aus Pennsylfania, aus Rheinland Pfälz, aus Bern. Forgib mer meine Fehler, ich schwetze schlecht deitsch.

63 Name: Anonymous Linguist : 2021-11-14 14:47 ID:IKfTHem8

Wo sind die Deutschen @?

64 Name: Anonymous Linguist : 2021-11-21 20:12 ID:Heaven

>>63
KC, bzw. soziale Medien. Wer Englisch spricht, hält sich eher im Englischsprachigen Internet auf.

65 Name: morgendorffer : 2022-01-07 23:13 ID:1EfcrrTR

>>64
englisch ist für mich ja kein problem. wäre nur cool, wenn es noch aktive boards gäbe, auf denen man über national/dach relevante themen diskutieren könnte. kc mal ganz außen vor.

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To: Britain citizens/residents (4)

1 Name: Business Insider : 2016-11-20 08:11 ID:GpRZtg/4

"Learning these 9 languages could lead to higher-paying jobs in Britain" "9 languages which will help you earn more in Britain" German, Arabic, French, Dutch, Spanish, Japanese, Russian, Italian, Mandarin Chinese. http://uk.businessinsider.com/9-languages-which-will-help-you-earn-more-in-britain-2016-9

2 Name: Anonymous Linguist : 2021-09-01 14:02 ID:jWU7VzgP

it takes a lot of time though..

3 Name: Anonymous Linguist : 2021-10-05 03:00 ID:XALH5har

"though" (O.O)

4 Name: Anonymous Linguist : 2021-11-05 22:44 ID:edScE3V4

>>1

>Britain
>Arabic
>Spanish
>Chinese

the absolute state of britbongistan~

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Start Learning Chinese (9)

1 Name: Anonymous Linguist : 2011-09-02 10:10 ID:BSgsJSHi

hey
i'm very interested in chinese but i don't know where to start, i thought about learning the hanzi but, does mandarin use the same ideograms? do i have to learn mandarin or traditional chinese?
any good methods?

2 Name: Anonymous Linguist : 2011-09-12 19:49 ID:q1H/fYCM

I suggest you learn Mandarin, which is spoken by most of Chinese people. The easiest way is to find a Chinese girlfriend lol.

3 Name: Anonymous Linguist : 2012-02-12 13:20 ID:ZinqedrI

i want to learn chinese too.. what the first step to learn chinese? and its not easy to get chinese girlfriend if they cannot speak english u know.. lol

4 Name: Anonymous Linguist : 2012-02-16 01:40 ID:OZfResYL

Did you really just say mandarin or traditional?
mandarin and cantonese are the 2 main chinese dialects.
also, the methods of writing are simplifed and traditional, simplified was made to increase the literacy rate sometime around Mao and all the prgressive communist stuff

I speak some Mandarin due to where I grew up and taking it in school.

Mandarin is what most speak, so unless you want to like - go to Hong Kong, just learn Mandarin.

I recommend starting out learning some traditional and then transitioing into simplified (there are many shared characters and simplified just makes some of them faster to write) Traditional is dumb in the long run really.

As for where to start I'd say try to look for some software or a book that you can get cheap or for free and look up more stuff online.

some links from my high school Chinese/math teacher

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5 Name: Anonymous Linguist : 2014-10-09 14:13 ID:mQeYJ34d

Dont do it. It is crazy chink-spik, and GT is perfect with it.

6 Name: Anonymous Linguist : 2014-10-09 18:20 ID:Heaven

CPC PLZ

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8 Name: Anonymous Linguist : 2021-09-01 14:10 ID:bc7XUUYc

it's hard, especially the pronounciation...

9 Name: Anonymous Linguist : 2021-10-05 03:05 ID:9ajIFlEF

i dont ever plan to learn chinese however i know shyeh shyeh means thank you yet damn is thier culture and food fucking amazing

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