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Language @4-ch

English: Talk about languages, communication, linguistics or anything of that nature. All languages are welcome for discussion, and everyone should respect each other's language. Please keep Japanese language related discussion here thank you.

日本語: 言語、コミュニケーション、言語学または何についてでも話してください。全ての言語が議論のために歓迎され、誰でも互いの言語を尊重しなければなりません。日本語に関連した議論はここでしてください。

Français: Parler des langues, la communication, la linguistique ou n'importe quoi de cette nature. Toutes langues sont bienvenues pour la discussion, et tout le monde doit respecter la langue. S'il vous plaît garder la discussion en Japonais ici, merci beaucoup.

Español: Para charlar sobre idiomas, la lingüística, y qualquier cosa de ese tipo. Todos los idiomas son bienvenidos para la discusión y todos deben respetar el idioma del uno al otro. Por favor mantengan discusiones en Japonés aquí, gracias.

Svenska: Här talar vi om språk, lingvistik o. dyl. Alla språk är välkomna och ni förväntas respektera andra användares språk. Vänligen håll Japanska-diskussioner inom detta forum, tack!

Deutsch: Gespräche über Sprachen, Kommunikation, Linguistik oder Ähnliches. Alle Sprachen sind willkommen und jeder sollte die anderen Sprachen respektieren. Bitte Diskussionen über die japanische Sprache auf dieses Forum beschränken, vielen Dank.

Português: Converse sobre idiomas, comunicação, lingüística ou qualquer tema relacionado. Todos os idiomas são bemvindos para a discussão, e todos devem respeitar o idioma alheio de cada um. Por favor mantenham as discussões relacionadas ao Japonês aqui. Obrigado.
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1: Imageboard en español (125) 2: Da li govoriš naški? (1) 3: What's the worst language? (44) 4: Esperanto learning resources and books. (14) 5: latin (10) 6: Textboard brasileiro (1) 7: Japanese Learning Thread/nihongo benkyou sureddo#2 (4) 8: france (13) 9: Why so hard understanding English conversations is?? (4) 10: German reading recommendations (8) 11: Start Learning Chinese (10) 12: I am Japanese. Are there any questions? (10) 13: Japanese Learning スレ (1000) 14: Bonjour (4) 15: thread EN FRANCAIS (55) 16: 這是中文板!!! (92) 17: French punctuation question (7) 18: Learning japanese (sensai is a prick) (9) 19: Post every english word where pronunciation doesn't match spelling. (26) 20: Nederlands (9) 21: Doitsch (65) 22: To: Britain citizens/residents (4) 23: Should I learn two languages? (4) 24: I want to study English on this board. (6) 25: English to Japanese translator (16) 26: Do you think korean, cantonese and japanese sound cool? (145) 27: Learning new languages! (5) 28: I'm a university student in Kyoto Japan. I would like to know what is happiness. (5) 29: Mass media of Japan is a masochist? (2) 30: I want to learn German! (29) 31: In this thread: you may only speak English words (2) 32: [English] [loanwords] has/is (6) 33: ciao bellissima, come stai? (2) 34: Heronposting in foreign languages (17) 35: LOL, IRISH (4) 36: Alguém que fala Português? (33) 37: Latinoamérica, únanse! (41) 38: [ETYMOLOGY] Fascinating Etymologies and Cognates [English] [Indo-European Languages] (6) 39: language (3) 40: 😀 (2)

Imageboard en español (125)

1 Name: Anonymous Linguist : 2010-04-18 21:09 ID:cRWcFBHT

Hablamos español y no intentamos comportarnos como retrasados provenientes de 4****. Estamos en http://cuatrochan.org/ y disculpen el spam~

116 Name: Anonymous Linguist : 2024-01-08 01:04 ID:luMcCb7j

117 Name: internauta : 2024-01-21 10:57 ID:luMcCb7j

118 Name: Anonymous Linguist : 2024-01-27 01:01 ID:czDucVHK

119 Name: Anonymous Linguist : 2024-01-27 01:01 ID:czDucVHK

120 Name: Anonymous Linguist : 2024-01-28 19:15 ID:2oP7Rfy+

>>118
>>119
devox no es un chan y nunca lo sera es, una puta mierda llena de argentinos asquerosos que lo unico que saben hacer es tocar los huevos, espero que todos los usuarios de devox os suicideis colectivamente.

Un saludo usuario de 4-ch promedio

121 Name: Anonymous Linguist : 2024-01-30 02:47 ID:IybJKXPD

122 Name: Anonymous Linguist : 2024-01-30 15:39 ID:2oP7Rfy+

>>121
es feo con ganas ese chan

123 Name: Anonymous Linguist : 2024-04-30 03:25 ID:qffN+d3t

>>114
ese chan es japones

124 Name: Anonymous Linguist : 2024-05-03 02:50 ID:xwC0UsdP

HEY AMIGOO, do you comprehende what im sayingo? I needo some burrito and some aguas, it's getting pretty, how you say, caliente-ooo amigo!

125 Name: Anonymous Linguist : 2024-05-25 18:30 ID:rp1srKiY

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Da li govoriš naški? (1)

1 Name: Anonymous Linguist : 2024-05-09 19:34 ID:WfRBxBnf

Well, do you? If not, why not?

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What's the worst language? (44)

1 Name: Anonymous Linguist : 2013-01-23 12:18 ID:IMlqzpyd

What is the worst language in your opinion? As a really wordy guy, I don't really like english. It's useful, nice to hear and easy to speak but to write, I really hate it. It's too hard and even sometimes impossible to precisely express what I'd like to say.

I'm not into japanese anymore. It's kinda cool to speak but honnestly I got fed up with the culture (few travels and a lot of disillusions). I'm more into korean and cantonese (I don't speak it very well but I'm in love with Hong Kong's cinema).

What is yours?

35 Name: Anonymous Linguist : 2022-12-06 12:41 ID:Heaven

Written Chinese is cool as hell, especially once you get to phono-semantic characters. Pity that spoken Mandarin sounds horrible!

36 Name: Anonymous Linguist : 2022-12-18 07:46 ID:mqjpBt6j

>>1

>impossible to precisely express what I'd like to say.

I know that feel. I think it's because you don't have enough practice in the language. It could happen in english as any other language that is not yours.
I feel really frustrated sometimes to express myself as accurately and precisely in a foreign language comparatively to my native.

>source ?

This post

I want to learn Bulgarian. Anyone here ?

37 Name: Anonymous Linguist : 2022-12-21 01:39 ID:U1+l0E4o

Latin. Thank god that it's a dead languge

38 Name: Anonymous Linguist : 2023-01-18 10:03 ID:CHf6J0/u

The worst language is english. it was invented by retards in denial of the fact they are actually german. also shakespeare is trash and you should never read him unless your stick on that one silent hill 3 puzzle

39 Name: Anonymous Linguist : 2023-01-18 10:22 ID:Heaven

Yeah, english isn't a language, it is 3 different languages in trenchcoat standing on each other's shoulders pretending to be one. English sailors "colonised" half of the world at some point, spreading their language in the process. Japanese and chinese are still worse though, you need like tripple the effort to learn those.

Instead of reading Shakespeare, watch this https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Looking_for_Richard . It is a movie analysis of Richard III (Richard the third) play, explaining what is actually happening in the movie. In short, it is about one guy stealing throne.

40 Name: Anonymous Linguist : 2023-03-02 15:20 ID:Heaven

hebrew. israelis literally made up their own language based on an ancient dialect but has nothing to do with it and sounds and feels more like yid talk, german, and slavic. total fake garbage langauge.

41 Name: Anonymous Linguist : 2023-08-12 17:33 ID:phTmxF5F

>>36

>I want to learn Bulgarian. Anyone here ?

Why would one want to do that?

42 Name: Anonymous Linguist : 2023-08-31 00:43 ID:XV2hP427

>>37
Latin is beautiful. I am learning it.

>Roma in Italia est.

43 Name: Anonymous Linguist : 2023-11-14 03:06 ID:i4FYKc0Z

All the European ones that are shitty diluted versions of pig Latin

>>42
Lingua latina?

44 Name: Anonymous Linguist : 2024-05-09 19:32 ID:40zeRTvj

Gotta be Arabic for me, it doesn't sound pleasant at all. Very throaty and guttural with a lot of awful consonant combinations.

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Esperanto learning resources and books. (14)

1 Name: Anonymous Linguist : 2015-01-05 18:44 ID:Qx8n3/a0

Esperanto thread!
I'm told that this book is the best in terms of how easy it is.

http://www.amazon.com/dp/0939785064/ref=cm_sw_su_dp

5 Name: kangen water : 2016-03-07 02:56 ID:7YTjrSr2

Not specifically esperanto but there is an awesome program called anki which is a flashcard program that figures out when the best time to review something when it is best to memorise it, plus there are tons of pre-made decks for esperanto

and of course there is stuff like lernu and kurso de esperanto, and the sidebar in the esperanto subredddit has a bunch or resources too.

6 Name: Anonymous Linguist : 2022-12-01 14:33 ID:Ll6OZqMk

7 Name: Anonymous Linguist : 2022-12-01 15:07 ID:V+pZSvLA

some crazy folks actually went and made exactly the kind of content that motivates me to learn a language: a yuri visual novel

https://store.steampowered.com/app/1044490/The_Expression_Amrilato/

8 Name: Anonymous Linguist : 2022-12-03 16:25 ID:Heaven

Ah, heard about that one. But if something is on stream it usually means its censored to shit, so I'm not that tempted to bother.

9 Name: Anonymous Linguist : 2022-12-07 10:19 ID:Heaven

>>8 can't be censored if there's nothing to censor in the first place, though maybe that means the content itself is too tame for your wild lifestyle

10 Name: Anonymous Linguist : 2023-02-08 19:46 ID:Heaven

How do I say "nigger" in esperanto? Nigero?

11 Name: Anonymous Linguist : 2023-12-01 02:00 ID:mCqU5I1Y

>>10
i think the correct term is "nigrulo" or "negro" but it doesn't really have the same punch to it. i saw this on wiktionary which i found kind of funny:

>negristo (“a slave merchant of Negros”)

12 Name: Anonymous Linguist : 2024-04-19 22:23 ID:LIcUpPwa

Why would anyone spend time learning a useless language?

13 Name: Anonymous Linguist : 2024-04-21 02:41 ID:xBQJ8vp7

>>12
some people like to learn languages
>>7
Very interesting...

14 Name: Anonymous Linguist : 2024-04-25 16:58 ID:UADpcu0F

>>13
Yeah but why not learn something useful like Latin or Japanese or Old Norse or something? Esperanto is actually useless has no literature to speak of beyond translations and you can only play patches of Touhou games in it. Seems like a huge waste of time.

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latin (10)

1 Name: Anonymous Linguist : 2014-08-13 21:20 ID:TnokfFV1

So I graduated from middle school this year (germany). This means that I had to choose if I wanted to learn Latin for another year and get the Latin proficiency certificate that I would most likely fail anyways. I obviously chose not to go for another year and choose Japanese instead which is more fun to learn and actually useful as opposed to latin. Why am I posting this? I simply want to put my infinite harted for latin into words. There is nothing in this world that would make me do those 4 years over again. It was hell. The very moment you decide to not learn for one test or something THAT'S IT! YOU'RE DONE FOR THE NEXT 2 OR 3 YEARS. If you don't have EVERYTHING in your brain there is no chance in hell that you'll pass that next test. My friend chose to learn latin for another year. We all know that it'll be very hard. I wish him strenght. I'm afraid he might not make it. If you live in germany and plan on having kids or have kids that are going to have to chose between latin and french try to make them chose french. It's also fucking hrd but the lesser evil in my opinion. And it's again actually useful.

To all the latin students: Never give up!

2 Name: Anonymous Linguist : 2014-10-17 08:19 ID:qml4dNMB

Failed Latin in high school. It was the only class I've ever failed in my life.

No regrets.

3 Name: Anonymous Linguist : 2015-09-14 19:29 ID:pwv7seFN

I, like you, had to study Latin for a while in middle school (I think it corresponds to middle school. Different system). First I liked it, but I started slacking on my homework, and my grades started going down drastically, which in turn caused me to hate the subject/language.

However, in my fourth year of Latin, at the start of the year, I decided to do my homework again. And I loved it. I suddenly saw how beautiful the language looked and sounded, and how flexible the grammar was. I might never find a practical use for it, but if that's the only thing you care about, you're doing this whole life thing wrong.

4 Name: Anonymous Linguist : 2015-09-14 19:53 ID:kLtoSShj

I wish they taught Latin where I went.
In middle school we could only learn Spanish or French, and while I liked French, I wish there was more variety. At the other middle and high school in the area, they had shit like German and Japanese.

5 Name: Anonymous Linguist : 2015-09-25 03:58 ID:0PV9MkOn

My mother tried to teach me Latin (I was homeschooled) and I just ended up getting shouted at a lot. It's good to hear other people had a hard time with it too.

6 Name: Anonymous Linguist : 2021-09-01 14:01 ID:ozB0g6ZB

Used to learn Latin in the Uni but forget most of it sadly

7 Name: Anonymous Linguist : 2023-02-16 01:56 ID:MemOTDDa

I found this place googling "latin language textboards," obviously I wasn't expecting anything but this place is nice.
Anyway I say this because I wajt to create a latin speaking textboard, even though it will likely have zero users.

8 Name: Anonymous Linguist : 2023-12-31 00:45 ID:ieuyjYf5

>>7
DQN Latin would be fun but I'm only 3 chapters into Wheelock so I wouldn't be able to use it ( ´,_ゝ`)

9 Name: Anonymous Linguist : 2024-02-10 22:18 ID:Va0/lY8u

ego sum anon, et tu, quid nomen tibi est?

10 Name: Anonymous Linguist : 2024-03-31 16:27 ID:E2byFl/A

Salve, mihi nomen est anon. Queso da mihi puella.

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Textboard brasileiro (1)

1 Name: Anonymous Linguist : 2024-02-21 00:53 ID:9emHtB/6

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Japanese Learning Thread/nihongo benkyou sureddo#2 (4)

1 Name: Anonymous Linguist : 2023-02-20 13:59 ID:Heaven

Previous thread reached >>1000 and was nothing but spam anyway, but feel free to check it https://4-ch.net/language/kareha.pl/1475864701/l50

https://guidetojapanese.org/learn/ -- Tae Kim's guide to japanese.
https://jisho.org/ -- online japanese dictionary.
https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/10ten-ja-reader/ -- instant popup dictionary for firefox.
https://chrome.google.com/webstore/detail/10ten-japanese-reader-rik/pnmaklegiibbioifkmfkgpfnmdehdfan -- same for chrome. After the genocide of older firefox extensions there are many rikaichan clones around, I'm not sure which one is the best.

Also there is a "Translation request thread" in https://4-ch.net/nihongo/ , feel free to ask there.

2 Name: Anonymous Linguist : 2023-02-20 14:01 ID:Heaven

https://web.archive.org/web/20170702141418/http://amaterasu.tindabox.net/guide/
Ixrec's Guide to Japanese

Apparently I can use F9 or ctrl-t to type widetext with microsoft IME. Other F buttons do similar things.

I wonder why 青 can mean both blue and green, maybe 緑 is a later addition to the language?
緑青
青緑
there's a whole theory about this
also traditionally the rainbow was seen as having just 5 colors in east asia
(precisely due to having less recognized colors)
japan used to recognize just 4 colors initially (black, white, red and blue)
https://ja.wikipedia.org/wiki/色名#日本語の色名とその語源
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Color_term#Color_term_hierarchy

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3 Name: Anonymous Linguist : 2023-03-02 15:18 ID:eN9FINQX

very helpful anon
can anyone send me a link on ol' Japanese 2channel slang?

4 Name: Anonymous Linguist : 2023-10-07 10:54 ID:qi0bT02u

I hacked my 3DS and been playing this on it when I'm out and about https://www.consoleroms.com/roms/nds/my-japanese-coach-learn-a-new-language-u-xenophobia but you could also play it on your computer with an emulator!

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france (13)

1 Name: french-ototko : 2011-03-17 16:35 ID:Y0mDwX3g

amie français voila un forum similaire a 4ch pour nous http://fr2ch.bbs.fc2.com/ je compte sur vous pour faire vivre le forum

4 Name: Anonymous Linguist : 2011-09-08 21:48 ID:4SjPhD1O

Heh. Pourquoi pas? Moi j'viens du Canada. Le Francais c'est ma langue d'origine.

5 Name: Anonyme : 2011-09-13 04:06 ID:wwtPPe2P

Tout d'abord, je ne pense pas que le BBS de Fc2 soit un bon support pour réellement créer un équivalent francophone à 2channel. On ne voit même pas d'aperçu des posts sur la page d'accueil, seulement les titres des sujets, et de plus, la popularité du BBS baisse certainement énormément en étant "hébergé" sur fc2.

Pour créer un équivalent francophone à 2ch il faudrait :
-Utiliser un système similaire à 2ch (regarde en bas le lien vers Kareha)
-L'héberger sur un hébergeur sûrement payant (pour la qualité du service)
-Réserver un nom de domaine (payant, mais pas cher)
-S'assurer du succès d'une telle entreprise.

Les trois premières étapes sont relativement simples à mettre en place, le plus dur étant de choisir un nom convenable pour les francophones, le nom de domaine qui va avec et le design du site (entièrement copié sur 2ch ? Une touche française ?). Une fois ceci réalisé arrive l'étape la plus difficile : "rendre" le BBS populaire.

Il faut pour cela qu'un utilisateur débarquant sache ce qu'est ce BBS, quelles en sont les sections, les règles, les principes (posts anonymes, sage, concept de bump, liste des threads, rapidité et variété des sujets, etc).

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6 Name: Anonymous Linguist : 2011-10-05 20:13 ID:ZOs7qXx/

Je pense qu'il est inutile d'essayer de popularizer le site, si les gens sont intéressés, ils y viendront d'eux mêmes. Après tout, c'est comme ça que j'ai débarqué ici, ça fait déjà quelques années.

Ce qu'il faut vraiment, c'est l'engagement de quelqu'un (ou d'un groupe), pour lancer le truc d'un point de vue technique.

7 Name: Anonymous Linguist : 2011-11-22 02:49 ID:JwE+zXUX

How easy is French to learn?

8 Name: Anonymous Linguist : 2011-12-28 08:37 ID:1xXV/SI3

>>7
It depends. If you already speak a Roman language, it can be fairly easy. Even with English, knowing that a lot of your "more-than-three-syllables" words are almost the same in French but more common, you already have an innate amount of vocabulary.
I think the hardest is the obfuscated orthography and the legendary hard grammar.
I can say it as a fact, the majority of French don't master their own language, you can see it (alas) everywhere, from the internet to newspapers and classrooms.

The particularity of French is the irregular grammar, though. Learning the tenses for each groups of verbs is daunting and boring, you may even abandon the process when you see that irregular verbs are every-fucking-where.

My best advise to improve in French is to focus on grammar for the serious part, and for the practice, you have more than 500 years of genius literature awaiting you, from the renaissance poets and philosophers to the more modern writers.
Reading French is a very important part of learning it, for French is in my opinion much more divided between its spoken and read forms. Even for French, those that often read in their youth tend to master the language better than others.

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9 Name: Anonymous Linguist : 2014-07-29 13:24 ID:Heaven

     | \
     |Д`)   Personne n'est ici.
     |⊂     Je peux danser maintenant !
     |

     ♪  ☆
   ♪   / \    RANTA TAN
      ヽ(´Д`;)ノ   RANTA TAN
         (  へ)    RANTA RANTA
          く       TAN

   ♪    ☆
     ♪ / \   RANTA RANTA
      ヽ(;´Д`)ノ  RANTA TAN
         (へ  )    RANTA TANTA

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10 Name: Anonymous Linguist : 2021-09-01 13:45 ID:p4wj7nP0

Well, French is hard for non english speakers...

11 Name: Anonymous Linguist : 2022-12-15 00:29 ID:ZRqujAGQ

>>1
Dommage semble HS.
>>9
Eh, mais je suis là moi !!!
On danse ensemble ?

Sinon rdv sur L'Entremonde.

12 Name: Anonymous Linguist : 2023-04-06 05:26 ID:MzqL8IcV

behenchodo koi hai kya idhar? ya sab ke sab glowchans pe marva rhe?

13 Name: Anonymous Linguist : 2023-09-09 00:26 ID:EQiMz8Ia

toujours vivant

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Why so hard understanding English conversations is?? (4)

1 Name: Anonymous Linguist : 2023-03-18 15:40 ID:Dcybx/Fd

Hi, How did you get yourself able to understand them. Many linkings make them to understand. it seems to be impossible.

2 Name: Mr. 2 GET likes to 2 GET : 2023-04-04 10:53 ID:4C8MnyGr

It's just practice my friend, keep reading and speaking it and it will become easier. Have you tried watching videos on subjects that interest you in English? Maybe playing games in English?

3 Name: Anonymous Linguist : 2023-09-02 00:32 ID:v49W4fwv

what is your native language and is it south slavic?

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German reading recommendations (8)

1 Name: Anonymous Linguist : 2016-10-08 16:13 ID:4nI37Gaj

I'm between B1 and B2 and am trying to maintain my German skills while I can't take classes. What would people recommend reading and watching? I've been sticking to newspapers, mainly, and that gets a bit dull.

2 Name: Anonymous Linguist : 2018-02-17 18:25 ID:EC8OC9Aa

Mein Kampf

3 Name: Anonymous Linguist : 2018-07-10 05:53 ID:V5woAE38

Sorrows of Young Werther

4 Name: Anonymous Linguist : 2021-09-01 13:56 ID:6HSP3UFj

Read news.

5 Name: Anonymous Linguist : 2023-03-01 22:04 ID:d695IH8z

Try easy Deutsch

6 Name: Anonymous Linguist : 2023-03-02 15:14 ID:TxBW4B65

Goethe Goethe Goethe

7 Name: Anonymous Linguist : 2023-08-31 01:04 ID:MzIsP3mJ

Whole series Perry Rhodan.

8 Name: Anonymous Linguist : 2023-09-02 00:29 ID:22824rJO

Das Kapital

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