[Suggestions] [Feedback] New new management [Exciting!] (176)

1 Name: ssz!8KKxaxpAFg (Admin) : 2020-10-06 15:42 ID:muTytuBI

BPS has passed the site on to me, as you might have seen. Please use this thread for...

  • reporting anything that seems to be broken
  • any feature requests or other suggestions you might have
  • feedback for my own (and others') proposals and ideas

I'm also going to use this thread as an update log, for convenience.

For anything else, you can reach me over IRC (on #4-ch) or email (TBA).

2 Name: ssz!8KKxaxpAFg (Admin) : 2020-10-06 15:47 ID:muTytuBI

So far:

  • The front page, guide and services pages seem to be working now
  • I've setup SSL with Let's Encrypt, and made the whole site automatically redirect to https — is this okay, or should I allow for non-SSL browsing as well?

3 Name: ssz!8KKxaxpAFg (Admin) : 2020-10-06 16:19 ID:muTytuBI

So far, these are my current goals for the site:

Short-term

  1. Making sure everything works properly
  2. New DQN name (already done)
  3. SSL (also done)
  4. Fixing the fonts and adding submona support — I've done this for the SJIS boards (DQN, ASCII and Nihongo); should I make MS PGothic default for the other boards as well? Undo it and add a custom stylesheet for it? Please let me know)
  5. More stylesheets (mittens.css, amber.css and more?)

Longer-term

  1. Updating kareha, and also adding some custom features (backlinks? hover quotes?)
  2. Bringing back the archive scripts (Love, e.g., has over 2000 threads, none of which are archived!)
  3. Moving everything under one domain for convenience
  4. Potentially merging or closing some of the older boards (highly debatable — I would prefer to keep them active, but a few may be beyond saving at this point)
  5. Community projects, or other ideas to revitalize the place a little

4 Name: Anonymous Advisor : 2020-10-06 17:51 ID:4oIf85zc

Hello new admin,
I have to admit that when I entered the site and saw the new front page image(the boat on the sea) I got shocked and thought that the site got hacked or that the the previous admin woke up from a nightmare and remembered he was supposed to maintain a certain website.
I would like to suggest season images for the front page, maybe changing every season (or month), of course images related to that season/month. Also, bring back the previous image.

>Potentially merging or closing some of the older boards (highly debatable — I would prefer to keep them active, but a few may be beyond saving at this point)

Please don't close boards, or if you really really need to, then at least put them in read-only mode for history/archive purpose.

Good luck.

5 Name: Anonymous Advisor : 2020-10-06 17:53 ID:4oIf85zc

>>4

>suggest season images

I meant seasonal images. Changing them every season or month. Also bring back the previous image as a seasonal image if you decide to go forward with this idea.

6 Name: Anonymous Advisor : 2020-10-06 18:06 ID:D534diIn

6get

7 Name: Anonymous Advisor : 2020-10-06 18:52 ID:Heaven

Hey, post previews are now working perfectly (at least for me special characters were glitchy since always). I think the "WakabaMark" formatting option can be removed now since the posts are monospaced.

8 Name: Anonymous Advisor : 2020-10-06 21:43 ID:bZCrpkrf

Remove the copypaste from /pol/ and link threads from dqn.

9 Name: Anonymous Advisor : 2020-10-06 21:47 ID:XYIxdWw/

Unbelievable! Thanks for setting up the ssl!
I know you are not mentioning them, but please try to keep the old style "mobile" pages as they are even smaller than standard kareha pages and useful for quick reading, if that would not require too much work i.e. while upgrading kareha.
I may not be the only one liking them, as there are some cries after the "old internet" in /general, and these are some pre-HTML5 mobile pages which is super rare nowadays.

10 Name: Anonymous Advisor : 2020-10-06 23:30 ID:h5/zi5wC

>>5
Seasonal images would be cute.

>>3
I'd strongly support merging/closing some of the boards. There's way too many of them relative to the size of the userbase, and it just makes the website feel dead. Obviously, archive them first.

11 Name: Anonymous Advisor : 2020-10-07 00:59 ID:yg90PuEc

I don't know what any of these words mean, but can we finally get a mailing list?

12 Name: Anonymous Advisor : 2020-10-07 01:41 ID:VJHeTjND

Why is the imageboard still in the navigation sidebar if it's closed?

13 Name: Anonymous Advisor : 2020-10-07 03:21 ID:Heaven

Really minor issue and I don't know if it's just for me, but when I refresh the page and select a style, the site shits itself and loses all CSS, so I need to click on the option again.

14 Name: Anonymous Advisor : 2020-10-07 11:24 ID:+L7HktOs

Please a way to stop people to constantly bump old, and for all purpose archived, threads.

15 Name: ssz!8KKxaxpAFg (Admin) : 2020-10-07 14:01 ID:muTytuBI

>>4,5,10
If I can find a good source of images, I was thinking of actually updating the front page with a new image every few months or so, but a seasonal cycle might work too.

>>4,10,14
If anything, the boards would go to the archive and remain readable. I'm thinking of getting the archive script up and running either way, and I'm tempted to also setup autosage for older threads.

>>7
Nice! I have no idea what I did.

>>9
I was actually thinking of updating the regular kareha.pl templates for proper mobile scaling and retiring mobile.pl completely; I had no idea people were actually using it. I'm still thinking of putting it up on robots.txt so it doesn't appear in search results anymore, would that be ok?

>>12
I'm thinking of bringing /img/ back at some point in the future, probably as a fresh start.

>>13
Happens to me with the frameset on webkit. Not sure how to fix it, might have to go back to unified CSS and some other trick for getting the font right on the three relevant boards.

16 Name: Anonymous Advisor : 2020-10-07 22:35 ID:6rTj43Vb

>>15 People probably don't, maybe it's just me. The mobile.pl pages are actually not useful for mobile at all; they are useful for minimal desktop browsers, like lynx, as they will render in anything. They come from times when "mobile browser" meant opera mini for Java or IE for Windows CE. I'm sure there is no need to have them in search results.

17 Name: Anonymous Advisor : 2020-10-10 15:59 ID:0nyTF/2R

Hi. Could you re-add imageboard?

18 Name: Anonymous Advisor : 2020-10-10 17:02 ID:ussDuag6

Don't re-add imageboard, it's just a magnet for pedoshit and other garbage.

19 Name: Anonymous Advisor : 2020-10-11 01:54 ID:vqusO77N

>>14>>15
I like talking to people from a decade ago.

20 Name: Anonymous Advisor : 2020-10-11 11:56 ID:+L7HktOs

>>19
You're talking to cicadas' shells so stop doing that.
Or at the very least use sage while posting in old threads.

21 Name: Anonymous Advisor : 2020-10-13 00:48 ID:VJHeTjND

>>18
I like sharing images, but it's true that pedos have no souls and like to ruin the internet for everyone.

22 Name: ssz!8KKxaxpAFg (Admin) : 2020-10-15 13:28 ID:muTytuBI

Recent changes:

  • Made the site slightly more mobile-friendly
  • The frames page now preloads CSS, which seems to alleviate problems with switching stylesheets in webkit
  • mobile.pl has been added to robots.txt -- the script (and archive.pl) are finally published to https://services.4-ch.net/view/kareha_scripts
  • CSS changes:

    • Added IPAMonaPGothic and Submona support to all stylesheets
    • Wide AA posts create a scrollbar instead of linebreaks if there's not enough horizontal space now
    • Slightly increased the font size on Blue Moon
    • The roses and Suigintou have returned to Mercury

23 Name: Anonymous Advisor : 2020-10-16 16:46 ID:g1O3Hd18

make an overboard!! also maybe it's a good idea to make some dead boards read-only to centralize posting and make this place more active. NEVER delete archives

captcha: bipe

24 Name: Anonymous Advisor : 2020-10-17 05:22 ID:4RYM8ozI

2 Channel — English Navigator is broken links do not work when you try to click on them.

25 Name: Anonymous Advisor : 2020-10-22 16:51 ID:xTJS8a9R

It would be nice if Blue Moon could support mobile AA like pseud0ch

26 Name: ssz!8KKxaxpAFg (Admin) : 2020-10-22 18:59 ID:muTytuBI

>>17,18,21
I would like to bring it back, but no promises.

>>23
It's on my list, and would definitely be useful for catching spam and such early. Not sure about a proper overboard, but some sort of log of the latest posts (in the past 24 hours, or some fixed number) should definitely be doable.

>>24
2ch/5ch blocks foreign IPs, plus the whole page is in need of updating. If anyone feels like doing it or has a better site to link to, let me know.

>>25
Fixed, and added submona support to all the other styles as well (oops!).

27 Name: Anonymous Advisor : 2020-10-24 04:28 ID:kyHfxU64

Hey ssz, there's a directory (I forget where) on the site with pixel art of girls with cat years and the 4ch logo. Why not use those? Someone put them on the server like a decade ago but they never got used.

28 Name: Anonymous Advisor : 2020-10-25 08:23 ID:0nyTF/2R

2ch changed its domain to 5ch.net, the links in 2ch portal still point to old domain. Please fix that.

29 Name: Anonymous Advisor : 2020-10-28 17:57 ID:Heaven

Unless I'm messing things up on my end, I think 5ch/5channel's boards are blocked for non-Japanese users.
Only the other 2channel (2ch.sc) can be freely visited outside of Japan.

30 Name: Anonymous Advisor : 2020-10-29 02:06 ID:6VpB2vBF

bps sucked

allow tor posters btw

31 Name: Anonymous Advisor : 2020-10-29 21:36 ID:QdP392rb

>>29
5ch is read-only to the west now besides a few international boards like /img8/ which anyone can post on. I'm pretty sure these were created by Watkins but I'm not sure.

32 Name: Anonymous Advisor : 2020-10-30 16:46 ID:Heaven

>>31

>read-only

What I'm saying is that 5channel's board are all blocked for me, I can't access any of them.
On the other hand I can check (but not post in, obviously) all boards on 2ch.sc.

33 Name: Anonymous Advisor : 2020-11-01 00:17 ID:QdP392rb

>>32
Are you European? I think its still blocked for Euros.

34 Name: Anonymous Advisor : 2020-11-01 00:29 ID:Heaven

>>33
Yes, I am.
I see, that explains why it's blocked for me.

35 Name: Anonymous Advisor : 2020-11-02 08:50 ID:0nyTF/2R

>>30
Do that if you want it to become pedo website.

36 Name: Anonymous Advisor : 2020-11-05 01:17 ID:IdWqf/SF

make a portuguese+spanish board
:DDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDD

37 Name: Anonymous Advisor : 2020-11-05 01:27 ID:IdWqf/SF

>>35

ヽ(´ー`)ノ yeeee

38 Name: Anonymous Advisor : 2020-11-05 09:52 ID:/B27kAMR

>>26

>2ch/5ch blocks foreign IPs, plus the whole page is in need of updating. If anyone feels like doing it or has a better site to link to, let me know.

why not change the links to 2ch.sc?
it doesn't block foreign IPs like 5ch and scrapes content from it anyway

39 Name: Anonymous Advisor : 2020-11-09 23:00 ID:Heaven

I can't refresh captcha anymore

40 Name: Anonymous Advisor : 2020-11-15 23:01 ID:mlwlJdLR

need more advertising
i will spam this place everywhere

41 Name: Anonymous Advisor : 2020-11-16 08:00 ID:Heaven

>>40 no!!!!

42 Name: Anonymous Advisor : 2020-11-16 09:11 ID:n9b5BB1A

>>40
don't. This place will be filled with spam if you do.

43 Name: Anonymous Advisor : 2020-11-20 04:43 ID:MF+Ey8/L

>>23
I'd support archiving and clearing up the board list.
Is there any way to download the archive?

44 Name: ssz!8KKxaxpAFg (Admin) : 2020-11-27 14:27 ID:muTytuBI

>>27
https://static.4-ch.net/images/front/1100732162896.gif https://static.4-ch.net/images/front/1100882487494.gif https://static.4-ch.net/images/front/1102394695500.gif these ones? Sure, could be fun.

>>39
Fixed, and added solutions for DQN and Nihongo so all boards should have functional captcha reloading now.

>>23,43
Archives aren't going anywhere, don't worry. There aren't any public downloads right now, but before merging/closing some of the boards (there's gonna be a thread for this sometime in the future), I'm planning on making a full archive of the site.

45 Name: Anonymous Advisor : 2020-11-29 23:37 ID:6svf3Wvr

Any chance of the little frying pan cat view counter returning to DQN?

46 Name: Anonymous Advisor : 2020-12-05 19:49 ID:+NCtfKKz

BPS ran this site for like a decade
How long do you think you can run this site? Because I don't want to wake up one day to 4-ch being dead

47 Name: Anonymous Advisor : 2020-12-06 04:18 ID:+659MzWJ

Add more special and small little features like the 'Release Emergency Mittens' thing on DQN if you can. Thanks ssz

48 Name: ssz!8KKxaxpAFg (Admin) : 2020-12-06 21:00 ID:muTytuBI

>>45,47
Noted. The counter is probably going to have to start at zero, I hope that's fine.

>>46
"Indefinitely", in terms of the actual cost/effort required to keep it running, and I would like to at least see it hit 20 years. If I ever get tired, I'm probably going to pass it on to someone else in good time before it risks disappearing.

49 Name: ssz!8KKxaxpAFg (Admin) : 2020-12-06 21:09 ID:muTytuBI

For that matter:
The 10,000th of September is right around the corner, and I would like to know if there are any suggestions for other ways to commemorate the event. So far, I've got the following lined up:

  • Cooking up some "new" stylesheets
  • The imageboard is slated to make a return
  • A small cosmetic surprise for DQN

50 Name: Anonymous Advisor : 2020-12-21 08:39 ID:K71U+JBZ

imageboard will attract bad actors and more rejects from other [dead] imageboards so many mods OR very dedicated mods will be needed. only way to quarantine them is to give them a dedicated space to degen in, and we see what happened to 8ch for that.
posting source is also dudebro. are you interested in software upgrades and patches?

51 Name: Anonymous Advisor : 2020-12-21 21:45 ID:x7WvdLWR

>>50
I will moderate and delete loli on sight.

52 Name: Anonymous Advisor : 2020-12-22 06:18 ID:QdP392rb

>>51
But loli is so cute.

53 Name: Anonymous Advisor : 2020-12-22 07:26 ID:Heaven

>>52
Okay pedophile

54 Name: Mor!Yo4/6brAYc : 2020-12-25 18:59 ID:cBKVajVq

Completely wipe everything and start from scratch with a few basic boards

55 Name: Anonymous Advisor : 2020-12-25 21:35 ID:Heaven

>>54
kill yourself

56 Name: Anonymous Advisor : 2020-12-26 16:05 ID:jOebP7wA

>>49

>A small cosmetic surprise for DQN

please let me eat your shit

57 Name: Anonymous Advisor : 2020-12-26 18:37 ID:Heaven

Please install a webfont for emojis that make them look less intrusive and obnoxious. Ideally one of those black and white outline emoji fonts. That way they blend in better and lose their trolling potential.
Maybe the ideal would be something similar to those old Japanese phone emoji, but I don't think there are any open source web fonts like that.

58 Name: Anonymous Advisor : 2020-12-27 09:23 ID:4RYM8ozI

>>54

This is probably for the best.

59 Name: Anonymous Advisor : 2020-12-28 10:37 ID:H7vNooyd

>>57
that is good
but i prefer b&

60 Name: Whisker's Favorite Toy : 2020-12-29 06:05 ID:Heaven

The same people asking to ban loli .jpgs from the IB are probably 2hu spammers. Ban 2hu at all costs, ssz. This is a board of elitist quality, 2hu images do not fit the standard. SAoVQ's images are terrible even with the size limit. Don't take any chances; remove images that aren't original to 4-ch.

61 Name: the guy who proposed to ban loli jpgs : 2020-12-29 06:56 ID:Heaven

>>60
I hate all anime stuff personally. I don't know what 2hu is.

62 Name: (cap: jiecking) : 2020-12-31 03:37 ID:Heaven

i am a heron. i ahev a long neck and i pick fish out of the water w/ my beak. if you dont repost this comment on 10 other pages i will fly into your kitchen tonight and make a mess of your pots and pans

63 Name: Anonymous Advisor : 2021-01-04 15:56 ID:iKSGNOML

>>54
this in all seriousness

64 Name: Anonymous Advisor : 2021-01-04 22:20 ID:G5XB5maS

How about an oekaki board instead of an imageboard? That avoids the CP problem.

65 Name: Anonymous Advisor : 2021-01-05 01:04 ID:Heaven

>>64
I'll make sure to draw badly rendered dicks on it at least.

66 Name: Anonymous Advisor : 2021-01-06 16:12 ID:x7WvdLWR

dubs

67 Name: Anonymous Advisor : 2021-01-09 06:35 ID:iKSGNOML

>>54
This

68 Name: Anonymous Advisor : 2021-01-09 16:49 ID:5t/t2Pd8

The number of boards should be cut by like 95%. This is a problem with a lot of sites. Way too many boards or subforums for the number of users.

Also, ban pedophiles like >>53. I almost literally cannot use the internet without constantly running into them now. Why are they everywhere?

69 Name: Anonymous Advisor : 2021-01-10 20:07 ID:x7WvdLWR

If it's possible, I would rather have boards merged together than deleted. I know kareha uses flat files so I assume that while tedious and annoying it could probably be done by splicing the logs together. The annoying part would be changing the names and getting the dates sorted.

For instance, anime, manga, film & tv are similar enough to each other and overlap enough that they could probably be merged. Programming and tech support; net culture and iaa; news, politics, and debate; romance and personal issues; some others possibly.

Although I'm not in favor of messing with the boards. I treat them kinda like historical monuments.

70 Name: Anonymous Advisor : 2021-01-11 06:47 ID:4RYM8ozI

>>68

Shut the fuck up faggot pedos have always been on the internet you SJW faggot nigger.

71 Name: Anonymous Advisor : 2021-01-11 19:17 ID:fE8raWzJ

>>49
Is there any possibility the post limit could be raised by one, for https://4-ch.net/dqn/kareha.pl/1610370984/?

72 Name: Anonymous Advisor : 2021-01-12 03:38 ID:+Qw1/Cp2

>>71
I suspect ssz started that thread.

73 Name: Anonymous Advisor : 2021-01-12 13:33 ID:5t/t2Pd8

>>70
9 times out of 10 you fucking pedos are SJWs or some other type of leftist, so fuck you and kill yourself.

74 Name: Anonymous Advisor : 2021-01-12 20:54 ID:Heaven

>>73
Is someone mad that he didn't get to party hard on the 6th?

75 Name: Anonymous Advisor : 2021-01-13 09:52 ID:5t/t2Pd8

>>74
I've never set foot on the American continent, and what does this have to do with topic?

76 Name: Anonymous Advisor : 2021-01-13 10:01 ID:4RYM8ozI

>>73

The only pedos that are SJW are the ones on places like Twitter i am not SJW i don't care about politics politics are boring and have contributed to the downfall of society people who are both far right and far left are both fucking retarded.

77 Name: Anonymous Advisor : 2021-01-13 18:28 ID:5t/t2Pd8

>>76
You're a pedo, so instead of trying to feel superior to others you should consider becoming an hero.

78 Name: Anonymous Advisor : 2021-01-14 02:44 ID:4RYM8ozI

>>77

How about no moralfag LOL i have never touched a kid and i don't plan on it anytime soon because i don't wanna go to jail but i totally would if it was legal and the child wanted to suck my dick LOL.

79 Name: Anonymous Advisor : 2021-01-14 02:45 ID:x7WvdLWR

Don't delete the boards, asshole cynics.

80 Name: Anonymous Advisor : 2021-01-14 12:38 ID:5t/t2Pd8

>>78
Yeah, ok.

Since this is obviously a site catering primarily to pedophiles, I'll just go somewhere else.

81 Name: Anonymous Advisor : 2021-01-14 16:41 ID:Q8O0WwnL

Last comments in this thread are not VIP quality at all, are likely just random tourists and should get b&.

82 Name: Anonymous Advisor : 2021-01-15 01:33 ID:4RYM8ozI

>>80

Never comeback you triggered faggot LOL.

83 Name: Anonymous Advisor : 2021-01-16 02:05 ID:QdP392rb

Amber theme's background causes the CAPTCHA text to blend in, making verification an unnecessary hassle.

84 Name: ssz!8KKxaxpAFg (Admin) : 2021-01-16 02:21 ID:muTytuBI

>>83
Applied a fix, try refreshing.

85 Name: Anonymous Advisor : 2021-01-16 07:36 ID:iKSGNOML

Delete everything

86 Name: ( ´_ゝ`) : 2021-01-17 00:13 ID:QdP392rb

>>49
A small cosmetic surprise, huh.

87 Name: thank you ssz : 2021-01-19 13:38 ID:9/JDBjl4

I enjoy the new (old) stylesheets, but it looks like the BUUN stylesheet is now gone? it was just pseudoch with red titles and light borders but I kind of miss it...

I probably won't use the imageboard but thanks for the work in bringing it back

88 Name: ssz!8KKxaxpAFg (Admin) : 2021-01-20 18:05 ID:Heaven

>>87
I figured I'd just merge it into mittens.css so we could have 2 Pseud0ch-likes instead of 3... but I guess it can stay for now.

89 Name: Anonymous Advisor : 2021-01-21 21:14 ID:fOFPM3c3

It would be pretty neat if subback.html could list the thread creation date as well as the last reply date.

Also, when using an alternative stylesheet, getting an error while previewing a post will result in the style being swapped to Pseud0ch.

90 Name: Anonymous Advisor : 2021-01-28 21:45 ID:sGeZyIKD

One quirk of Kareha 3.1.2 that I've noticed is that when directly linking posts by url, sometimes the link shows only that post, other times it shows the linked post and >>1, and sometimes it shows the whole thread. I couldn't find any pattern to what post numbers create what behavior, but my testing wasn't very thorough. Any explanation for why it is like this?

91 Name: ssz!8KKxaxpAFg (Admin) : 2021-01-29 13:51 ID:muTytuBI

>>90
Do you have any examples? I think you might be experiencing intended behavior.

92 Name: Anonymous Advisor : 2021-02-11 16:12 ID:zYlGipbJ

/img/ was linked on 4chan and is now being bombarded with un-VIP anime images you see posted everywhere. Remove them before before the same thing that happened to /images/ happens to /img/.

93 Name: Anonymous Advisor : 2021-02-11 16:45 ID:Heaven

> un-VIP anime images

gb2/SAoVQ

94 Name: Anonymous Advisor : 2021-02-11 20:02 ID:Yc1ww0VO

good job on keeping this site alive, admin. i still visit it from time to time, is it just me or it's more active now? also, what happened with the ideas of making some boards read-only and making a "latest posts" log? either way, keep up the good work. if this site ever shuts down i will get very sick

95 Name: Anonymous Advisor : 2021-02-11 23:25 ID:X9wQ74Ie

>>90
If you link to a single post, or several posts separated by commas, e.g. >>90,91, then it displays only those posts. If you link to a range of posts, e.g. >>90-91, then it displays >>1 as well. If you want to link to a range without including >>1, put an "n" in front of the number, e.g. >>n90-91. If you link somewhere out of range, e.g. >>1000, then it just displays the entire thread.

There are a few others, too. You can use >>q90 for all posts linking to >>90, >>l90 for the last ninety posts, and >>r90 for ninety random posts in the thread.

96 Name: Anonymous Advisor : 2021-02-11 23:40 ID:x7WvdLWR

>>95
All these years and I never knew about the q or r functions

97 Name: ssz!8KKxaxpAFg (Admin) : 2021-02-12 13:48 ID:Heaven

>>92,93
It was only in a single thread with 36 replies on /jp/, and I didn't really notice an increase in activity. Pretty sure most of the unVIP images were already there before it, too.

>>94
Thank you! Well, there's a thread for the board situation now. Bps actually left some overboard experiments, I might try to get it running once the merge is done.

98 Name: Anonymous Advisor : 2021-02-14 01:46 ID:Heaven

>>91
Ah, nevermind. What I was observing was the following:
https://4-ch.net/dqn/kareha.pl/1610604190/500 links to post >>500
while https://4-ch.net/dqn/kareha.pl/1610604190/500/ links to the full thread, as do all other improperly formatted links.
Didn't notice that I had accidentally typed that final /, nor did I think it would have any effect.

99 Name: Anonymous Advisor : 2021-02-14 02:27 ID:trxbIkWi

wordfilter an empty comment field on /img/ to something funny and cool, like the "kitaaaaaaaaa!" kaomoji or "im gay and my dick is small" or something

100 Name: Anonymous Advisor : 2021-02-14 07:38 ID:Heaven

>>99
Wakaba doesn't have wordfilters.

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