Tom Hiddleston (Sweet 16) (1000)

1 Name: Anon. : 2017-08-28 02:47 ID:5qdWEBEh

Thread to talk about the actor Tom Hiddleston

901 Name: Couch Potato : 2018-11-10 14:17 ID:SjnrLluM

I wonder how it feels to have tanked your own career.

902 Name: Heynon : 2018-11-13 02:09 ID:bswgVGOG

>>892 Full video of the talk with Tom and Josie Rourke:

903 Name: Heynon : 2018-11-13 18:36 ID:vsFoFSho

Interesting event - looks like a cross between poetry and a play:

904 Name: Sosorry : 2018-11-14 05:23 ID:zSl8T0x0

New pics of Tom walking Bobby today in London from Torilla. He's wearing the uniform, of course : )

905 Name: Sosorry : 2018-11-14 20:52 ID:zSl8T0x0

Tom just posted a new work project on Twitter w a brand new video!! Speculation is that this is a teaser trailer for a new TV adaptation of the lauded Harold Pinter play Betrayal. That is currently unconfirmed, but Hiddleston did wear this suit, while appearing at a London gala honouring Pinter just last month.

906 Name: Heynon : 2018-11-15 00:56 ID:bswgVGOG

>>905 Very interesting. His scene at the Pinter gala was from "Betrayal." I googled, and it hasn't had a major production in London for about seven years, which seems to be a typical amount of time to pass between its revivals. And as of the date of that Josie Rourke interview, her last production at the Donmar hadn't been announced yet.

907 Name: Heynon : 2018-11-15 00:58 ID:bswgVGOG

>>906 I also meant to say, a Rourke/TH collaboration would help explain that otherwise rather random interview/career retrospective event.

908 Name: Heynon : 2018-11-15 18:36 ID:vsFoFSho

>>905 - >>907 Yup, it’s Betrayal but with another director:

909 Name: Sosorry : 2018-11-19 07:11 ID:zSl8T0x0

Tom filled in for his Hollow Crown co-star, Jeremy Irons, w George MacKay, Yasmin Paige, Faaiz Mbelizi, and Toby Jones on stage at the for Dead Poets Live: The Broken Word reading. He wore his old 2015 McQueen suit w black leather boots for the event, and changed into his uniform for the reception. Apparently, Tom specifically said that he didn't want to take pictures during the after show drinks reception, but here are a few of the photos of the event and the reception. ALso, a pic of Tom riding the tube, a day or so ago.

910 Name: Heynon : 2018-11-20 02:06 ID:bswgVGOG

>>909 I didn't know he was filling in for Jeremy Irons. Funny, given that in the film of Betrayal, Irons played the role that Tom will be doing on stage.

911 Name: Heynon : 2018-11-22 00:18 ID:bswgVGOG

Video from the Dickens v. Tolstoy event:

912 Name: Sosorry : 2018-11-25 03:19 ID:fq9hhVpv

Al Pacino will be starring in a film adaptation of King Lear. Team Tom should try to nab him a role in this. Maybe Edmund, as his friend John Macmillan just played that part in the BBC version w Anthony Hopkins? Or Edgar, perhaps?

913 Name: Heynon : 2018-11-25 18:42 ID:bswgVGOG

>>912 That could be good - per the Guardian article, Pacino's "Merchant" made better money than most Shakespeare films. It's supposed to start filming next fall, though, which might conflict with the Loki series going into production.

If he does get a role in this, I'd like to see him play Edgar rather than Edmund. I don't think he needs another villain on his resume right now.

And he could work on his Pacino imitation :).

914 Name: Sosorry : 2018-11-27 21:36 ID:fq9hhVpv

Torilla pics of Tom walking Bobby on Nember 27. He's wearing a new black Nike windbreaker, and black Nike running shoes.

915 Name: Heynon : 2018-11-28 00:28 ID:bswgVGOG

>>914 And socks over his running tights....

916 Name: Heynon : 2018-11-28 01:29 ID:bswgVGOG

>>914 Any dog owners out there - is it an obedience training thing not to interact with your dog while out for a walk? Or do we think the paps just can't sell those pictures?

917 Name: Heynon : 2018-11-29 02:28 ID:bswgVGOG

918 Name: Heynon : 2018-11-29 02:34 ID:bswgVGOG

Behind-the-scenes shots from the Betrayal trailer - some nice b&w photos of Tom:

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920 Name: Heynon : 2018-12-01 03:34 ID:dA6/CvIC

Tom's arrival at the Tokyo comic con - this picture shows him wearing (gasp) new pants and new shoes (though the same uniform):

Arrival at the airport yesterday with Luke in tow:

921 Name: Sosorry : 2018-12-05 21:23 ID:fq9hhVpv

Apparently Tom Hiddleston was mentioned in a story in The Cut, in an article alleging that Priyanka Chopra's relationship with, and marriage to Joe Jonas is completely fake and for PR purposes. Well, Duh! Allegedly Priyanka wanted a PR relationship w a famous celebrity to cement her status worldwide status, and the article said that Tom didn't make it to be her selection. I knew that Emmy Awards onstage twirling session would come back to haunt him! No more hanging out near thirsty people, or being thirsty yourself, Tom! They had to cave in and remove the article, though.

922 Name: Heynon : 2018-12-06 02:57 ID:dA6/CvIC

>>921 Though not hanging out with thirsty people could be a challenge, given his profession (especially the movie industry).

Speaking of which, I was sorry to see that no sooner had the new Loki series been announced, his rank in the Bond betting jumped up again. I so wish that would stop.

923 Name: Heynon : 2018-12-07 03:09 ID:dA6/CvIC

Tom at a BFI event last night with Prince Charles:
On Twitter at /BFI/status/1070702520396320769 (more pictures on torilla)

924 Name: Heynon : 2018-12-08 00:36 ID:dA6/CvIC

Pics of Tom visiting with staff of a children’s hospital today:

925 Name: nontonkebioskop : 2018-12-12 12:05 ID:tUimxuDb

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926 Name: Heynon : 2018-12-23 23:31 ID:dA6/CvIC

This Week in Hiddlesland

Ending Dec. 23, 2018:

  • Various sightings in London and Hampshire from Twitter, including:

-- this one involving quantum mechanics: twitterDOTcom/OrigamiOgma/status/1076180692567027712
-- bonus from the previous week - one of a tube sighting with photo (via tumblr since the OP removed the picture):

927 Name: Sosorry : 2019-02-05 01:00 ID:zSl8T0x0

Oh dear. The oral surgeon father of actress Maddison Hasson, who played Tom’s teen bride in ISTL, Billie Jean, has been accused of sexually abusing at least four women while they were under the influence of anaesthesia and in his care at a clinic in North Carolina. This includes one count of 2nd degree forcible sex offense. I hope that these women receive swift justice under the law. Those poor women. Of course the DM used the picture of Tom w Maddie at a premiere of ISTL. This story is so disturbing.

928 Name: Heynon : 2019-02-06 01:53 ID:dA6/CvIC

>>927 The thought of someone you ought to be able to trust taking intimate advantage of young women is bad enough, but to do it when they were under anesthesia is despicable. I hope they throw the book at him.

At least the DM didn't use the ISTL picture at the top of the story, and restrained themselves from somehow working TS into it!

P.S. Welcome back! I was wondering if I was the only holdout....

929 Name: Sosorry : 2019-02-10 01:47 ID:zSl8T0x0

>>928 Thanks for the welcome back. I think that people are just waiting until more of the Betrayal PR really kicks off, or news of an additional new project pops up. Tom looked so awkward, guarded and self aware in the pics of him leaving Craig's restaurant in LA. It's like he has his fingers crossed that no one calls him a famewhore for doing pap strolls, and that no one writes about TS in the DM articles. Pics of Tom leaving Barbara Broccoli's pre-BAFTA party at the Savoy Hotel from Torilla. Please no more silly Bond conversations till Daniel Craig is finished with his last film!

930 Name: Sosorry : 2019-02-13 19:32 ID:zSl8T0x0

Pics of Tom attending the press night for Ivo Van Hove's new production of All About Eve w Gillian Andersen and Lily James. I love Ivo Van Hove, but All About Eve is a pretty perfect movie, and doesn't need to be a stage play. Neither does Network or To Kill a Mockingbird, IMO. His Betrayal costars, Zawe Ashton and Charlie Cox were there, too. Tom's wearing his burgundy sweater under his navy pea coat, which is a nice change.

931 Name: Heynon : 2019-02-15 18:33 ID:vsFoFSho

932 Name: Heynon : 2019-02-17 23:02 ID:dA6/CvIC

>>929, >>930 Interesting contrast between these sets of pictures. In the first two (Craig's and pre-BAFTA), he's scarcely smiling at all, even in the posed shots at the party. But he's all smiles in the ones for the press night. Because he had company for that event (his Betrayal co-stars)? Because he knows he's about to have to do more events as promo for his play and he needs the story not to be about how glum he looks? At least he finally trimmed his side beard and the dimples are once again visible.

>>929 Saw a day or two ago that the next Bond flick has been delayed, so the silliness will be prolonged. At least there weren't any articles after B. Broccoli's party about Tom / Bond.

>>930 Heartily agree that All About Eve is a great movie and doesn't need to be a play! From what I've seen about To Kill a Mockingbird, though, it seems like enough of a different interpretation from the movie that it's a justifiable adaptation.

933 Name: Sosorry : 2019-02-22 03:19 ID:zSl8T0x0

Tom and his co star Zawe Ashton were spotted watching Martin Freeman and John Heffernan performing in the play, The Dumb Waiter, at The Pinter Theatre.

934 Name: Sosorry : 2019-02-23 18:47 ID:zSl8T0x0

Twitter sighting of Tom and Zawe Ashton at an art museum.

935 Name: Heynon : 2019-02-23 22:24 ID:dA6/CvIC

>>934 I hope that was "homework" for Betrayal, or cue the rumors....

936 Name: Sosorry : 2019-03-01 05:44 ID:zSl8T0x0

Article on the new Loki Series, and the new Scarlett Witch/Vision series. Apparently these new Marvel projects will work in the same timeline with the Marvel films, and they will be supervised by the same creative team as the films, contrary to the other Marvel shows so far. The actors will sign on for only 9-10 series at a time. Hopefully Tom will get to executive produce the series, make some serious residuals, and negotiate a pay raise after season 1.

937 Name: Sosorry : 2019-03-06 21:53 ID:zSl8T0x0

938 Name: Heynon : 2019-03-07 00:08 ID:dA6/CvIC

Apparently Bobby was waiting at the stage door: twitterDOTcom/cumberbatchlive/status/1103425177419988993/photo/1

939 Name: Heynon : 2019-03-07 00:11 ID:dA6/CvIC

>>937 These photos seem to capture the mood of the stark setting very well. And could that be a new blue sweater? It’s even tighter than usual.

940 Name: Sosorry : 2019-03-10 02:46 ID:zSl8T0x0

Video of Tom and his costar Zawe Ashton seen leaving the theatre together, in his car. Heading to a party, maybe?

941 Name: Heynon : 2019-03-10 20:08 ID:dA6/CvIC

>>940 Could be - he looked to be carrying a bottle of something alcoholic. But it also looked as if he got in the front seat of the car, while Zawe was in the back, so I doubt that this glimpse together means anything.

I like that Bobby has been there for every performance except the matinee day!

942 Name: Sosorry : 2019-03-11 15:14 ID:zSl8T0x0

>>941 I agree. Apparently co-star Charlie Cox was also in the back of the car, that's why I said co-star Zara, and not rumoured gf, or anything. And Yay! Even celebitchy and the commentators are calling out Taylor Swift for her silly Elle magazine article, and for her habit of orchestrating PR relationships and PR friendships for beneficial press to sell albums. Since all of her stunting partners, including Tom, Karlie Kloss, and even Kim Kardashian have emotionally moved on, and are not talking about her, and that TS is the problem. Wow! Where were they durnig the summor of terror?!

943 Name: Sosorry : 2019-03-14 02:22 ID:zSl8T0x0

Pics of press night and solid reviews for Betrayal, and Tom! Hurrah. Dailymail critic review was mixed.

944 Name: Whatsinaname : 2019-03-16 03:14 ID:6LNXsSd5

Tom unknowingly photobombs group in restaurant:

945 Name: Heynon : 2019-03-19 01:17 ID:dA6/CvIC

Random recent bits I’ve found interesting:

  • And an aspiring actor tweeted (though he’s since deleted it) some advice he got from Tom when they met: “Never give up. Find your type and something specific for you, and always be on time!” The beginning and end are things we’ve heard from Tom before, so the middle one, while new, is also likely what he said. Interesting that he may now be realizing that yes, he is a type, as much as he’s wanted to go against it. And that he may be more successful if he tries to fight parts that are a natural fit for him.

946 Name: Heynon : 2019-03-19 01:25 ID:dA6/CvIC

>>941 Oh, the Celebitchy commentators were busy defending the reality of the Summer of Terror during it, IIRC!

>>943 That first DM review read as if the writer had to be restrained from including Tayto and the Shirt of Shame yet again. The second review was more professional, though they singled out Zawe as the best of the three:

947 Name: Heynon : 2019-03-19 01:25 ID:dA6/CvIC

>>944 Welcome back!

948 Name: Heynon : 2019-03-19 01:26 ID:dA6/CvIC

>>945 ...tries to FIND (not fight) parts....

949 Name: Whatsinaname : 2019-03-19 23:03 ID:6LNXsSd5

>>947 thank you! Good to see he’s out and about again, in his element.

950 Name: Sosorry : 2019-03-20 20:11 ID:fq9hhVpv

Tom interviews film composer Nicholas Britell, composer of If Beale Street Could Talk and the HBO show Succession, on the Only Artists program on BBC Radio 4. Tom is in his cerebral element. And of course he mentions The Last of the Mohicans soundtrack, and he quotes his lines from Othello. Tom needs to improve his classical musical references, though. We all love Debussy Claire de Lune, but enough of that, already. It was mentioned in the teeny bopper film, Twilight.

951 Name: Heynon : 2019-03-20 23:42 ID:dA6/CvIC

>950 He was probably too busy perfecting his dance moves (in his misspent youth in the '90s) to have spent much time on the classics!

952 Name: Heynon : 2019-03-20 23:46 ID:dA6/CvIC

Clip from another BBC interview, this time with Tom and Zawe about Betrayal: https://twitterDOTcom/BBCFrontRow/status/1108431700512698369

The full program is here:

953 Name: Couch Potato : 2019-03-26 15:13 ID:KzWPkhP3

Tom Hiddleston is a racist, communist, fascist, white bastard that raped his mother and sister, mutilated and ate six baby children, and is in complete support of genocide of the entire human race.

954 Name: Sosorry : 2019-03-27 04:10 ID:zSl8T0x0

Tom’s commercial for Centrum vitamins is linked below. Um. Hmm. Ew?! I’m not a fan of this commercial. But I hope that Tom was paid well, and that the commercial is well received in China. That’s all.

955 Name: Sosorry : 2019-03-27 16:53 ID:zSl8T0x0

>>954 And the gentle teasing about Tom's Centrum Vitamin commercial commences.

"Through the transitive property of A equals Tom Hiddleston and B equals Centrum, A plus B means Centrum is now an aphrodisiac. That’s just math."

956 Name: Heynon : 2019-03-28 01:33 ID:dA6/CvIC

>>954 I can't stop snickering about this! I'm with you - it's so cheesy, and then a little creepy when the very young woman appears at the end.... But the comments I've seen from people familiar with Chinese ads say that this one is typical, and cute; plus his Mandarin pronunciation is apparently perfect.

Tom's feelings about this might have leaked out in the little skip he does just before opening the door at the end, and the "I'm done with stage door tonight, thanx bye!" wave on his way out. So let's hope he was paid very well.

957 Name: Heynon : 2019-03-28 01:40 ID:dA6/CvIC

>>955 The comments on that piece are a hoot!

More gentle coverage and comments:

958 Name: Heynon : 2019-03-28 01:47 ID:dA6/CvIC

959 Name: Heynon : 2019-03-28 04:31 ID:dA6/CvIC

I Best comment in this one: “This is the creepiest commercial I have ever seen, and I am including Matthew McConaughey’s “Driving Lincolns While Stoned” anthology.”

960 Name: Whatsinaname : 2019-04-01 20:19 ID:6LNXsSd5

>>957 the comments are golden. Illuminati lol

961 Name: Heynon : 2019-04-02 01:44 ID:dA6/CvIC

What has this world come to? A gossip columnist sticking up for Tom and The Commercial? And it's not an April Fool's joke!

962 Name: Heynon : 2019-04-02 01:51 ID:dA6/CvIC

>>960 I hadn't gotten to the comments on that piece - too funny. (And see - we're not the only ones who wear tinfoil hats when needed!)

963 Name: Heynon : 2019-04-07 20:49 ID:dA6/CvIC

963 Tom looked good at the Olivier Awards today:

Whoever styled him did a much better job than the person who claimed credit for him at Zawe Ashton's book premiere. Today, he was wearing something other than his blue peacoat, the beard is closely trimmed, and his hair looks clean!

964 Name: Heynon : 2019-04-08 23:52 ID:dA6/CvIC

No streamed or recorded Betrayal: On Twitter: /JamieLloydCo/status/1115252013464522752

965 Name: Sosorry : 2019-04-18 02:08 ID:fq9hhVpv

Tom and his Betrayal costars, out at a play together. I Wonder what play it was.

966 Name: Heynon : 2019-05-09 01:46 ID:dA6/CvIC

The only thing I've come across recently, besides stage door pictures and Loki (Endgame complaints, series speculation:

If you can't get past the paywall (try stopping the page from loading as soon as you see the article), here's the relevant bit: "Thirdly – if you decide to go to drama school, go to one that has “royal” or “academy” in its title: these are considered the best. They are supported by well-known ex-graduates, and have the nicest facilities due to posh people donating lots of money (in return for getting limited edition tickets to see Tom Hiddleston performing in absolutely anything). You will undoubtedly leave one of these schools with an agent, a lover, and the prospect of a career that pays above Equity minimum."

967 Name: Sosorry : 2019-06-20 07:29 ID:zSl8T0x0

Thor 4 with Tom, Jeff Goldblum, Cumberbatch, and Cate Blanchett directed by Taika! I'm excited and yet fearful that Tom will never escape Marvel.

968 Post deleted.

969 Name: Heynon : 2019-06-26 00:55 ID:dA6/CvIC

>>967 Apologies for the delayed reply. That's a good find, though it seems rather speculative to me. Even if it pans out (and I'm with you in having mixed feelings about that), it may not be for some time. Taika seems to have a lot lined up for the near future:

The good news is that Tom's been getting some nice coverage for the China/BAFTA trip, as I'm sure you've seen. And he trimmed the beard and hair AND wore more than one outfit! (Damn, that man was born to wear a double-breasted tux!) He looks so much more relaxed in those photos than he has at an event in a long time.

970 Name: Heynon : 2019-06-26 01:02 ID:dA6/CvIC

>>969 Also, while I don't doubt Tom's sincerity as a BAFTA ambassador, I think it's a clever move on someone's part to have him maintain a public presence in China. Their film market is only going to continue to grow, and his popularity there might help to persuade producers to hire him, even if he's not a major box office draw in the West.

971 Name: Sosorry : 2019-06-29 04:50 ID:zSl8T0x0

Tom is making his Broadway debut along with Charlie and Zawe in Betrayal! Yay! Tom’s first Tony nomination could be on the horizon! We shall see. Here we go!

972 Name: Heynon : 2019-06-30 20:54 ID:dA6/CvIC

>>971 I know - that's such great news! I hope this will include a good profile interview or two (about something in addition to Loki).

973 Name: Heynon : 2019-07-14 22:09 ID:dA6/CvIC

Lots of pictures of Tom with the Cumberbatchs at today's Wimbledon men's finals on torilla's page: (hope the link works - I have trouble with weibo links)
Hope he was comfortable in that suit for the 5-hour match!

974 Name: Whatsinaname : 2019-07-16 21:37 ID:Sv9Wx+42

Tom's in NYC for Betrayal and it posted on the Gram:

975 Name: Sosorry : 2019-07-23 04:51 ID:zSl8T0x0

This is Tom’s new Sirius radio interview about his arrival in NYC, his Pinter play Betrayal, Shakespeare, his Broadway debut, etc.

976 Name: Couch Potato : 2019-09-09 10:22 ID:W1tMbQc/

977 Name: Heynon : 2019-09-09 22:56 ID:dA6/CvIC

978 Name: Couch Potato : 2019-09-14 03:35 ID:Bwk19O3h

>>977 it'll go up to positive in just a few days watch!!

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980 Name: ? : 2019-10-17 19:49 ID:Y1OJnCby

>>979 what were you trying to do, who programmed you

981 Post deleted.

982 Name: Heynon : 2019-10-24 23:35 ID:dA6/CvIC

Anyone in the U.K. may now have access to the NT Live recording of Tom’s Coriolanus performance:

983 Name: Heynon : 2019-11-06 03:57 ID:dA6/CvIC

Betrayal is running a 2nd round of Meet-and-Greet package evenings (the first ones were this past Thurs. and Fri.):

Wonder if these were always planned or if they need to fill orchestra seats.

From one participant's post last week, there were about 9 or 10 VIPs for the session, and they only got a total of 15 minutes with the cast. Doesn't seem like enough for the price, especially if you don't get to choose your seats.

984 Name: Heynon : 2019-11-10 21:50 ID:dA6/CvIC

In addition to the live performance, the Betrayal cast's appearance on Live from Here (the former Prairie Home Companion) will be broadcast live on Nov. 16th, and the video will be available until late the next day:

"Watch Live: See the show from 5:45-8 pm ET on Saturday, November 16th, via our video livestream on YouTube. The stream will then be available to view until Sunday, November 17th, at 11 pm ET.

Listen Live: Hear the show on your local public radio station from 6-8 pm ET on Saturday, November 16th. You can also find the live audio stream on our website,"

I hope they do a skit!

985 Name: Whatsinaname : 2019-11-12 07:27 ID:6LNXsSd5

986 Name: Heynon : 2019-11-13 00:29 ID:dA6/CvIC

>>985 SO much better than shilling vitamins!

987 Name: Heynon : 2019-11-13 00:33 ID:dA6/CvIC

Crimson Peak is on a list of hottest movie sex scenes:

988 Name: Heynon : 2019-12-18 01:28 ID:dA6/CvIC

It's hard to find anything that hasn't already been posted on one of the tumblr blogs, but here's some final info about Betrayal's box office in NY:

Scroll down to the text after the week's list. The article says the show had a "modest" box office, at an average 81% of capacity. I wonder if that's because it was only six years since the last NY revival, which had greater star power with both Daniel Craig and Rachel Weisz, or if there were other reasons.

I don't agree with the article's take that the production split critics down the middle. I felt like more reviews were positive than not, and the ones who didn't like the show either didn't like Pinter in general or relay didn't like the staging (but still praised the cast's performances).

I did go to see it, if anyone wants to discuss....

989 Name: Whatsinaname : 2019-12-28 04:46 ID:6LNXsSd5

>>988 Well, I would like to hear your personal review of the play.

990 Name: Heynon : 2019-12-31 22:20 ID:dA6/CvIC

>>989 I’ll try to write up my thoughts tomorrow!

991 Name: Couch Potato : 2020-01-03 19:30 ID:PHckO297

>>990 You broke your promise you motherfucker!

992 Name: Couch Potato : 2020-01-04 10:08 ID:jawCHY6f

Im gay

993 Name: Couch Potato : 2020-01-11 21:59 ID:nHlxEsBw

We know, but are you gay for Tom Hiddleston?

994 Post deleted.

995 Name: Couch Potato : 2020-01-19 16:55 ID:Heaven

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996 Name: Anon : 2020-02-11 22:58 ID:6WcxOQGS

>>995 Hey Couch. Long time no see. How’s heaven?

997 Name: Heynon : 2020-03-03 00:59 ID:dA6/CvIC

A bit of non-Loki news that I haven’t seen elsewhere. Tom will be one of the readers in a new audiobook series called “Letters of Note,” which is somewhat related to the Letters Live performance he did.

998 Name: Couch Potato : 2020-03-12 22:36 ID:Heaven

Uhh, are YOU?

999 Name: vc: showzzable : 2020-03-13 23:59 ID:Heaven

Who isn't?

1000 Name: Couch Potato : 2020-03-18 23:43 ID:nHlxEsBw

Hey guys I heard Tom had the coronavirus. So does Rita.

BTW my verification code is "cuck". Proof
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