Language @4-ch

Siemano polacy :D

Anyone recommend any good sites for learning languages from the net? Preferably free for a poor student like me?

Duolingo

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http://enagickangenwaterindonesia.com/blog-kangen-water/167-asam-basa-dan-skala-ph

http://www.enagicdistributor.com/

http://www.enagicdistributor.com/kangen-water

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http://www.enagicdistributor.com/produk-dan-harga-mesin-kangen-water

https://infokangenwater.id
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Certe, estas esperantistoj chie, chu ne? Kie estas 4-ch Esperantistoj? Salutigu nin!

Also, discuss how only crazy peaceniks and mad Polish optometrists learn Esperanto.

Saluton!

Mi volas paroli sed mi estas eterna komencanto.

Ĉi tiu fadeno estas preskaŭ dekjara.

Lets talk about fake language, in general. Constructing languages yourself, fake language-like writing or talking, existing conlangs, etc!
Ive been trying to build a langauge. I swear Ill actually make some progress on that, someday. As of now I just have a bit of a meaningless poem that demonstrates general sound and appearance
"Slol ne snla snal sesha svang
slol ne snla snlath thnale thrang
snalas fel plr slo mlgn zha
zhe natha
Nyaath al sol ath sava ast
ngathath al so shar navast
sthaf nel ra zhaf alt a
zhe sl ftha natha"

esperanto is shit
ido and volapük 4 life

also OP could you give an IPA rendering of that?
or vocaroo it so we can more accurately see / hear how it sounds.

>>3
http://vocaroo.com/i/s0vmTO5B65PQ
Basically, mostly unvocalized, r's and l's are similar but distinguished, vowels are mostly sorta soft, kinda low-nasally mushy accent, I guess.
Other little things ive written to try and illustrate its sound arent quite so restricted in their sound, so this is supposed to be poetry in it, deliberately made to sound one specific way even in it.

>>4
At times it sounds as if you are saying "schlong" as in "big long schlong dong."

>>5
well schlong is almost certainly a word in the language, it fits with others perfectly. Maybe 'Long Schlong' is a name.

What about klingon? They have their own language institute!

>>2
Esperanto may be a shit, but its pretty cool that there exists a conlang with native speakers.

>>2
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-iYN8j8-Occ

sina o toki e tan pi ni tawa mi: toki pona li e jaki

agreed, toki pona sina li lukin e ike e jaki

tokipona.net

fug you, you ruined the /lang/ threads on 4chan's /int/.

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>3

I think you mean they improved that awful board.

So, tell me what you think of conlangs.

Garich i dhôl goll o Orch.

>>1

It's kinda fun, personally. I like to play around with language and the grammar of a language.

I think Auxlangs (the ones made solely to facilatate communication) are fun, but I've yet to see one get enough speakers to be truely useful. Most get about 10,000 mostly from the same country. There's really no point to making a language that won't cross cultures. And they're really all Eurolangs -- so they're easy if you're a eurofag, but no chinese, korean, or iranian is going to recognize anything.

I've been looking at hanzi and kanji and that seems like the best approach. An international WRITTEN system. Something like having a set of symbols that everyone recognizes, and could be combined with other symbols to produce new words. You'd see a symbol for many trees and know it's a forest, or a symbol composed of "house" and "medicine" and know you're at a doctor's office. Even if you're reading the sign and mentally saying "doctor" in swahili, you'd recognize it in Japan, the US, Malasia, etc.

>>3
Did you read the Diamond Age?
In it, mankind has developed a system akin to what you describe, called Logoglyphics. Alas, many uneducated people never learn to read because they can rely on the symbols to navigate life, and as a result the populace becomes inarticulate and petty.

Auxlangs are very silly things that will never see any meaningful success.
Conlangs as part of a greater creative work are kinda neat I guess, though it always disturbs me to think that many of such writers care more about making a world than a story, which isn't working with the medium. You aren't trying to write a series of fantasy novels, you're trying to write an atlas.
Other artlangs are all around rad. Particularly personal ones. I've been playing around with the idea of trying to make one, but I want to learn Sanskrit and Spanish first, and I want to have someone to talk to (so ronery ;_;).

>>4

No, but I was playing around with Blisssymbolics (http://www.blissymbolics.org/) and it seems as though something like that could actually work -- if you could have a standard system for combining compound words. Basicly something like how a Hanzi symbol is built from radicals and simpler Hanzi. If something like that could be made to work, and a standard international alphabet were adopted for names and places, it could be used anywhere.

Hopefully it wouldn't replace natural languages, just serve as a way to help forgeiners find the bathroom and the hospital.

But even if a form of international "Hanzi" were adopted, I don't think you'd be any less literate than a Chinese person today. They can read Hanzi, and they are pretty well informed about the world.

>>5

I think in some cases getting the world right helps you get the story right. For example, knowing that the people of Ja'lath don't speak language the same as the Khafen helps to settle the question of how or why they communicate, and even if they can. Knowing that those two groups fought several protracted wars over the last 200 years can help you to decide on conflicts and twists. History is a big part of who you are. I have certain beliefs because I was born in America, in a period of relative peace. I'd believe differently if I'd been born an Indian Hindu living in Kashmir when both nations have nukes. Language, Culture and History are a big part of our beliefs.

What is a "conlang", a thieves' cant? I think you mean planned languages.

So, I've been learning Lojban for a few months. How many of you here speak it? Has anyone here heard of it?

la .lojban. mutce banli .i mi selneimau tavla fo la .lojban. seba'i la .gliban.

I've heard of it. Maybe I just didn't take enough time with it, but it kind of struck me as "Esperanto is bad because it's too eurocentric, so let's fix that by making a language that's incomprehensible to everyone."

It is also to evade loglan copyrights

dicks out for Harambe

>2

Lojban is not an auxiliary language, although it has features that would make a good one. Given that it was designed as a science experiment, it has to be as neutral as possible.

>1

.i mi do zo'e la .lojban. tavla ni'o mi'e .cizypij.