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Language @4-ch

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I want to learn German! (26)

1 Name: Anonymous Linguist : 2008-03-06 18:05 ID:EkPlGS01

I will spend every day of my life studying this language and practising it, and will probably move to Germany for a few years because I love it so much.

Unfortunately I have no idea where to start! I've been reading the German wikibook (http://en.wikibooks.org/wiki/German) -- are there any better or more comprehensive books I could get on the subject? Cost is no problem, German kicks ass.

17 Name: Anonymous Linguist : 2011-05-09 21:42 ID:JctDs8gJ

If u want really learn everyday look here: http://wortschatz.uni-leipzig.de/html/wliste.html
1d = 7words
10 = 70words
100 = 700words =)

18 Name: Anonymous Linguist : 2011-05-21 14:26 ID:Heaven

>>17 Thank you this site will help improve my french

19 Name: Anonymous Linguist : 2011-06-26 22:10 ID:utBC159k

>>15
This is actually a very accurate portrayal.

20 Name: Anonymous Linguist : 2011-08-07 16:40 ID:6o/eGVF6

the best way is to learn the basics and than watch german movies or something like that. but the grammar isn´t easy but possible^^
and u are right: german does kick as (of course im german)

21 Name: Anonymous Linguist : 2012-10-05 13:52 ID:nc7J3jBQ

Learning german is easy if you speak a germanic language like english yourself

22 Name: Anonymous Linguist : 2014-08-18 23:02 ID:fsNXFgU3

Can you suggest me any interesting german sites? I know about der spiegel and DW...

23 Name: Anonymous Linguist : 2014-09-05 21:04 ID:Ws6cKDTw

>>22
jpgames.de is nice for japanese video games news.

24 Name: Anonymous Linguist : 2014-10-02 05:04 ID:1mQcVgey

25 Name: Anonymous Linguist : 2014-10-02 14:21 ID:2fqulzUO

Just dont go to krautchan, it is shit

26 Name: Anonymous Linguist : 2014-12-07 05:00 ID:4kZY8eRu

I doubt the OP is still here, but if anybody is interested, I've been using the "Teach Yourself German" from 1963 by John Adams. It's a bit outdated, but you'll get an extremely thorough introduction to the language. It consists of grammar lessons, learning vocabulary, and then doing translation exercises from English to German and vice versa. I've only done about 15 exercises and I can understand the simple posts in this thread.

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Я русский блеадь! (169)

1 Name: Anonymous Linguist : 2009-11-18 12:27 ID:F7Z0YeGr

Ёба! Спрашивайте свои вопросы!

160 Name: Anonymous Linguist : 2014-11-26 22:29 ID:bNN9zYCP

161 Name: Anonymous Linguist : 2014-11-28 11:23 ID:7CAVJnPi

В немецком Кельне шестеро грузин прорыли подземный ход и ограбили ювелирный салон

http://newsru.com/crime/28nov2014/6gruzrobjwlrykoln.html

162 Name: Anonymous Linguist : 2014-12-01 20:25 ID:S5nEqTXZ

Во Франции арестованы 10 членов грузинского клана "русской мафии", причастные к 120 ограблениям

http://newsru.com/crime/01dec2014/arstgruzvrvzfran.html

163 Name: Anonymous Linguist : 2014-12-03 14:21 ID:iFKPUYYG

В ОАЭ в туалете торгового центра зарезана американка (ВИДЕО)

http://newsru.com/crime/03dec2014/cutmuswominmalloae.html

164 Name: Anonymous Linguist : 2014-12-04 06:49 ID:xEmE/dei

В ГРОЗНОМ НАЧАЛИСЬ БОИ

165 Name: Anonymous Linguist : 2014-12-04 06:53 ID:xEmE/dei

«Аль-Каида» в Йемене угрожает казнить американского заложника

lifenews.ru/news/146318

166 Name: Anonymous Linguist : 2014-12-04 11:23 ID:E30ic4yq

В Великобритании арестован россиянин, подозреваемый в убийстве женщины

http://newsru.com/crime/04dec2014/rusmurdwommanchest.html

167 Name: Anonymous Linguist : 2014-12-04 11:23 ID:E30ic4yq

В США экс-барабанщик рок-группы Cake получил 15 лет тюрьмы за изнасилование трехлетней девочки на вечеринке

http://newsru.com/crime/04dec2014/drummerpedo3ygus.html

168 Name: Anonymous Linguist : 2014-12-04 12:27 ID:E30ic4yq

Выходцев из СССР арестовали в США за аферы с медстраховкой на $70 млн

http://www.interfax.ru/world/411171

169 Name: Anonymous Linguist : 2014-12-04 12:29 ID:E30ic4yq

Американец пил по 10 банок «Кока-колы» в день в течение месяца ради эксперимента

http://lenta.ru/news/2014/12/04/colazlo/

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La langue française: Some Grammatical Pointers? (5)

1 Name: Anonymous Linguist : 2012-04-07 03:28 ID:EhHy0onj

I've been studying French for quite a while now, and yet I still have trouble! I was wondering if any fluent speaker could help me with some of these, of which I only have a basic understanding:

  • The difference between de/du/de la/des in all its uses.
  • Pronouns: How to use elle/il/le/la/lui (The use of 'elle' and 'il' has my frilly pantsu in a right twist!)

I understand that these can be quite difficult to explain, but I would really appreciate the help.

(v´▽`)v merci!

2 Name: Anonymous Linguist : 2012-04-30 03:49 ID:2ZBNbWsz

du = some; for masculine nouns
du pain = some bread (or just bread, quite nuanced)
de la = some; for feminine noun
de la tarte = some pie (or piece of pie, find out with context)

de = some; for words with an apostrophe pronounce "l'"
de l'or = some gold, de l'eau = some water (both genders: or is masculine, eau is feminine.)

des = some; plural
des batons = some staves

elle = she
il = he
both il and elle are nominative.

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3 Name: Anonymous Linguist : 2014-12-03 22:21 ID:BxGK67L3

>>1
I'm not sure if you need some help still. But I feel as though I should elaborate on >>2-kun's explanation of lui.

Lui is the indirect object. In English we use the indirect object when we use the prepositions "to" or "for". For instance, "I gave this gift to him" or "I wrote this poem for her". We can also use different word order: "I gave him this gift" or "I wrote her this poem." French uses lui for both "him" and "her", but it is always used as an indirect object.

4 Name: Anonymous Linguist : 2014-12-04 06:48 ID:G0bp5158

FRENCH
SUCKS

5 Name: Anonymous Linguist : 2014-12-04 07:56 ID:Heaven

>>4
Yeah, I don't like it either.

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ITT we talk about words that aren't in the dictionary but should be! (18)

1 Name: Anonymous Linguist : 2006-04-22 21:46 ID:a7qV/+qW

For me, it's "assumptuous," as in, someone who assumes things a lot is an "assumptuous" person.

9 Name: Anonymous Linguist : 2006-05-06 12:23 ID:Tw1OnwBe

>>8
So "hight" is like the verb "heta" (=to be called, or named) in Swedish? Or heissen in German?

About "overmorrow", it's like the Finnish word ylihuominen: yli means over and morrow, well, could mean huominen.

10 Name: Anonymous Linguist : 2006-05-12 22:32 ID:0axXbK6A

Liff

11 Name: Anonymous Linguist : 2006-05-13 10:53 ID:Heaven

   人     
  (__)    
  (__)   
 ( __ )    
 ( ・∀・) < I am named Squeeks and don't see the point of hight.
 (つ   つ   
 | | |     
 (__)_)

12 Name: Anonymous Linguist : 2006-05-14 01:34 ID:3RcU5iB6

>>9
I would like to point out that "overmorrow" also exists in Swedish. "Överimorgon". I will assume overmorrow exists in the other scandinavian languages as well, as it would be pretty odd if it didn't.

13 Name: Anonymous Linguist : 2006-05-16 21:44 ID:6ulX6Ksl

English needs an equivalent of the Swedish dygn. It's the word for 24 hours. Knowing the amount of words English has, it's pretty weird that this meaning is also inside the word day. Could be because of the AM/PM stuff I guess.

14 Name: Anonymous Linguist : 2008-10-21 12:40 ID:Vbpy8G4Z

isnt "to be named" sort of what "am" is used for, "I AM Squeek" / "I HIGHT Squeek"????????????????????????????????

15 Name: Anonymous Linguist : 2008-10-21 12:42 ID:Vbpy8G4Z

i think the word "parropen" should be in the dictionary, as a cross between a parrot and can opener, for convenience when sayin the commonly used phrase "that parrot opened my can", this can be replaced with "my can has been parropened"...thoughts anyone?

16 Name: Anonymous Linguist : 2009-08-27 17:12 ID:9hWde2MA

hmm good point such an addition as 'parropen' could EASILY avoid common asshattery (also a word) in every pirates day to day routine!

17 Name: Stefan : 2012-03-08 02:56 ID:eGVWFfbC

Overmorgen exists in the dutch language, as in Overmorrow.
I agree that it feels and sounds very good.

18 Name: Anonymous Linguist : 2014-12-03 22:54 ID:pRfKvoBL

>>9
Yes, both of those words come from the same proto-germanic root.

In Old English, the verb was "hatan." It was typically used intransitively, and as such, it was one of the few verbs that retained a genuine passive-voice that wasn't formed by a helping verb, as in Modern English. So, to say "my name is", all one had to say was "ic hate" (I am called.) But another way one frequently encounters is by using the indefinite pronoun "man" (one), so for instance, "man mec hætt" (one calls me)

Hight was used at least until the 1600s. One poem was written on the death of the composer Thomas Tallis. It contains the line:

His name to shew, was THOMAS TALLYS hyght.

In this example, we see that hight was used passively.

Anyway, I doubt it would ever catch on. One of the biggest reasons, besides it being archaic, is that it is a homophone with height.

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Путин иди нахуй (3)

1 Name: Anonymous Linguist : 2014-10-15 06:59 ID:eTQb+AM9

Соси и сдохни мразь

2 Name: Anonymous Linguist : 2014-11-02 07:49 ID:aL90Oo0i

Обезьяна вон из белого дома

3 Name: Petr : 2014-11-21 23:43 ID:oykkHQ87

Top Kek

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BANG COCK (2)

1 Name: Хуец : 2014-11-09 07:56 ID:afeVjoPr

:3

2 Name: Anonymous Linguist : 2014-11-09 19:17 ID:R/+KRgQl

big penis

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Imageboard en español (42)

1 Name: Anonymous Linguist : 2010-04-18 21:09 ID:cRWcFBHT

Hablamos español y no intentamos comportarnos como retrasados provenientes de 4****. Estamos en http://cuatrochan.org/ y disculpen el spam~

33 Name: gaston : 2012-09-17 04:26 ID:R2b/YKa/

bakachan sucks

34 Name: Anonymous : 2012-10-09 20:59 ID:0oYPOhsU

Otro chan más.

35 Name: Anonymous Linguist : 2012-10-10 11:37 ID:Heaven

El unico image/text board bueno en español es BaI, pero es demasiado lento ;_;

>>28,29,30
holi bakachan devs!

>>34
se parece a 4chan

36 Name: Anonymous Linguist : 2013-03-28 14:37 ID:W45vUPtj

Nos movimos a

http://underchan.orgfree.com

Solo texto.

37 Name: Anonymous Linguist : 2014-05-25 03:28 ID:Y+gc6RXK

Acá una nueva que encontré: http://nueceschan.org

38 Name: Anonymous Linguist : 2014-05-28 01:54 ID:Heaven

>>29-31,37
Más clones de 4chan sin nada nuevo que ofrecer excepto por reglas autoritarias.

Como si les sobraran los usuarios, lol.

39 Name: Anonymous Linguist : 2014-09-01 07:50 ID:mg01aROG

>>38
No estoy de acuerdo contigo, hablas siendo ignorante y sólo palabrería barata. Acabo de entrar al sitio y siendo bien honestos está decente en cuanto al contenido que se está albergando. Tampoco noté cáncer como en otros IB, que de hecho, sí las hay y bastante...

40 Name: Anonymous Linguist : 2014-09-12 11:17 ID:SQ01BTWw

>>39
keate kayao lonji ql k veni a ablar weas feo ql
toos los lnhjis k ablan d weas d cancer son DECUENE

41 Name: Anonymous Linguist : 2014-09-18 06:36 ID:Heaven

>>39
¿Aún hay gente que usa el término "cáncer" en relación a contenido?

42 Name: Anonymous Linguist : 2014-11-03 16:34 ID:YMos3xXo

>>40
>>41
HURRR UZA UN TERMINO BIEJO DERP DERP TU COMENTARIO KEDA DESKARTADO AUTOMÁTICAMENTE DERP DERP DERPY DERP

Eso fue lo que leí.

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Funny thing about English (10)

1 Name: Anonymous Linguist : 2014-08-26 21:57 ID:/VegF09s

Most native english speakers just dont realize that the whole world can speak english almost fluently, and that english is absolutely the easiest language in the world. I can read Dickens in english but can YOU read Dostoevsky or Sarte in the original? No, most of you can not do this, admit it anglos, you are stupid at learning languages, swedish teenages speak better english than you.
Just a fact

Ps:
My native tongue is Russian and I can speak fluent english just because I played ps1 games in my childhood. This is not a joke or a trolling attempt.
You all are stupid at learning foreign languages...

2 Name: Anonymous Linguist : 2014-08-26 22:23 ID:/VegF09s

Pps.
Sorry for what Putin did. No all of us are like this.

3 Name: Anonymous Linguist : 2014-08-26 23:07 ID:/VegF09s

Pps:
Dont let google fool you with their translator tool
Learn english, because every educated person must speak fluent english

4 Name: Anonymous Linguist : 2014-08-27 17:24 ID:b6GMUq8P

>>2

No need to be sorry for Putin, better be sorry for electing this abomination (obongo)

5 Name: ALLAH ACKBAR : 2014-08-28 11:20 ID:1qsBnMdK

More news at 12

6 Name: Anonymous Linguist : 2014-09-08 18:20 ID:Heaven

Who gives a crap about Russian, Puting, English and O'bama.

Everyone knows the up and coming language of languages is Esperanto.

7 Name: Anonymous Linguist : 2014-09-26 17:23 ID:DpMbn8QS

I am from Nigeria and I speak fluent english.

Hi!

8 Name: Anonymous Linguist : 2014-09-27 04:35 ID:cx+fAV8B

I'm form Canada and I speak French and German fluently. Russians can't Englsih at all. Your an exception, your talking better than me.

9 Name: Anonymous Linguist : 2014-10-09 14:12 ID:h1ONu3O3

No need to be sorry for Putin, because Strelkov did it.
yes, Putin is a dictator but still he is not Gaddafi.

10 Name: slowpoke : 2014-10-26 00:11 ID:bHdc39O2

English is no longer foreign language anymore

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latin (2)

1 Name: Anonymous Linguist : 2014-08-13 21:20 ID:TnokfFV1

So I graduated from middle school this year (germany). This means that I had to choose if I wanted to learn Latin for another year and get the Latin proficiency certificate that I would most likely fail anyways. I obviously chose not to go for another year and choose Japanese instead which is more fun to learn and actually useful as opposed to latin. Why am I posting this? I simply want to put my infinite harted for latin into words. There is nothing in this world that would make me do those 4 years over again. It was hell. The very moment you decide to not learn for one test or something THAT'S IT! YOU'RE DONE FOR THE NEXT 2 OR 3 YEARS. If you don't have EVERYTHING in your brain there is no chance in hell that you'll pass that next test. My friend chose to learn latin for another year. We all know that it'll be very hard. I wish him strenght. I'm afraid he might not make it. If you live in germany and plan on having kids or have kids that are going to have to chose between latin and french try to make them chose french. It's also fucking hrd but the lesser evil in my opinion. And it's again actually useful.

To all the latin students: Never give up!

2 Name: Anonymous Linguist : 2014-10-17 08:19 ID:qml4dNMB

Failed Latin in high school. It was the only class I've ever failed in my life.

No regrets.

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Start Learning Chinese (6)

1 Name: Anonymous Linguist : 2011-09-02 10:10 ID:BSgsJSHi

hey
i'm very interested in chinese but i don't know where to start, i thought about learning the hanzi but, does mandarin use the same ideograms? do i have to learn mandarin or traditional chinese?
any good methods?

2 Name: Anonymous Linguist : 2011-09-12 19:49 ID:q1H/fYCM

I suggest you learn Mandarin, which is spoken by most of Chinese people. The easiest way is to find a Chinese girlfriend lol.

3 Name: Anonymous Linguist : 2012-02-12 13:20 ID:ZinqedrI

i want to learn chinese too.. what the first step to learn chinese? and its not easy to get chinese girlfriend if they cannot speak english u know.. lol

4 Name: Anonymous Linguist : 2012-02-16 01:40 ID:OZfResYL

Did you really just say mandarin or traditional?
mandarin and cantonese are the 2 main chinese dialects.
also, the methods of writing are simplifed and traditional, simplified was made to increase the literacy rate sometime around Mao and all the prgressive communist stuff

I speak some Mandarin due to where I grew up and taking it in school.

Mandarin is what most speak, so unless you want to like - go to Hong Kong, just learn Mandarin.

I recommend starting out learning some traditional and then transitioing into simplified (there are many shared characters and simplified just makes some of them faster to write) Traditional is dumb in the long run really.

As for where to start I'd say try to look for some software or a book that you can get cheap or for free and look up more stuff online.

some links from my high school Chinese/math teacher

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5 Name: Anonymous Linguist : 2014-10-09 14:13 ID:mQeYJ34d

Dont do it. It is crazy chink-spik, and GT is perfect with it.

6 Name: Anonymous Linguist : 2014-10-09 18:20 ID:Heaven

CPC PLZ

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