Language @4-ch

Language @4-ch

English: Talk about languages, communication, linguistics or anything of that nature. All languages are welcome for discussion, and everyone should respect each other's language. Please keep Japanese language related discussion here thank you.

日本語: 言語、コミュニケーション、言語学または何についてでも話してください。全ての言語が議論のために歓迎され、誰でも互いの言語を尊重しなければなりません。日本語に関連した議論はここでしてください。

Français: Parler des langues, la communication, la linguistique ou n'importe quoi de cette nature. Toutes langues sont bienvenues pour la discussion, et tout le monde doit respecter la langue. S'il vous plaît garder la discussion en Japonais ici, merci beaucoup.

Español: Para charlar sobre idiomas, la lingüística, y qualquier cosa de ese tipo. Todos los idiomas son bienvenidos para la discusión y todos deben respetar el idioma del uno al otro. Por favor mantengan discusiones en Japonés aquí, gracias.

Svenska: Här talar vi om språk, lingvistik o. dyl. Alla språk är välkomna och ni förväntas respektera andra användares språk. Vänligen håll Japanska-diskussioner inom detta forum, tack!

Deutsch: Gespräche über Sprachen, Kommunikation, Linguistik oder Ähnliches. Alle Sprachen sind willkommen und jeder sollte die anderen Sprachen respektieren. Bitte Diskussionen über die japanische Sprache auf dieses Forum beschränken, vielen Dank.

Português: Converse sobre idiomas, comunicação, lingüística ou qualquer tema relacionado. Todos os idiomas são bemvindos para a discussão, e todos devem respeitar o idioma alheio de cada um. Por favor mantenham as discussões relacionadas ao Japonês aqui. Obrigado.
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Я русский блеадь! (221)

1 Name: Anonymous Linguist : 2009-11-18 12:27 ID:F7Z0YeGr

Ёба! Спрашивайте свои вопросы!

212 Name: Anonymous Linguist : 2014-12-31 09:24 ID:Heaven

>>211

Я думал что Bulgari это ювелирный дом, а оказалось - русское государство.

213 Name: Anonymous Linguist : 2014-12-31 15:07 ID:Heaven

>>211
>>212

What the fug guys, Bulgaria is Bulgaria... Fuck this fake

214 Name: Anonymous Linguist : 2014-12-31 15:08 ID:Heaven

This made me really really angry.

- Medieval states:
- First Bulgarian Empire 681-1018
- Second Bulgarian Empire 1185-1396
- Modern state:
- Principality of Bulgaria 3 March 1878[note 1]
- Independence from the Ottoman Empire

215 Name: Anonymous Linguist : 2014-12-31 15:12 ID:Heaven

Интересно Американцы знают что Булгария а также Болгария - это такие древние славянские государства??? Или только знают про ювелирный Дом Булгари который был создан в 19 веке??? Кек

216 Name: Anonymous Linguist : 2014-12-31 15:14 ID:Heaven

Анекдот:

BVLGARI подает иск против страны Болгария, так как Болгария украла имя их модного дома. Американские юристы смогли это доказать, и больше такого государства нет.

217 Name: Anonymous Linguist : 2014-12-31 15:19 ID:Heaven

Надо спросить проф. историка текстиля и орнаментов а также этнолога и филолога, все в этом мире очень взаимосвязано и попутано...

А вообще конечно ЭПИК ЛОЛ

218 Name: Walst : 2015-02-23 19:44 ID:d39uAUd2

Как дела?

219 Name: Anonymous Linguist : 2017-07-30 20:13 ID:LnNEZMqg

Зашел в тред, увидел свой пост за 2010 год, прослезился.

220 Name: Ньюфак : 2017-08-12 12:52 ID:WqDM2F6G

>>218
Норма дела, а у тебя как?
Блэт, я тут ньюфак, чё делать-то?

221 Name: Anonymous Linguist : 2017-10-11 06:14 ID:1Mwq8LXH

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Siemano (2)

1 Name: Anonymous Linguist : 2017-07-25 12:47 ID:o+g1ox4n

Siemano polacy :D

2 Name: Anonymous Linguist : 2017-10-02 10:48 ID:bwySjPqc

Semen policy

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Lófasz a seggedbe (1)

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Latinoamérica, únanse! (24)

1 Name: Anonymous Linguist : 2009-08-01 04:11 ID:3ptCI3v3

Sí, yo tampoco creo que hayan muchos de nosotros por estos lares.

15 Name: Anonymous Linguist : 2010-06-18 18:35 ID:pl/mOPz7

Español aquí.

16 Name: Anonimous : 2010-06-19 11:33 ID:EjebnNUS

Dejen de mamar weys

17 Name: Anonymous Linguist : 2010-06-24 10:07 ID:KcR5byMp

Soy estadounidense, y no hablo español muy bien porque sólo lo estudió durante tres años en la escuela secundaria. Ahora estoy en la universidad, y lo intento estudiar más aquí.

18 Name: Anonymous Linguist : 2010-06-24 10:10 ID:Heaven

Soy >>17. Quiero añadir que la familia de mi madre es mexicana, pero nunca me enseñó español. Gracias, mamá -_-' Luego ella se queja que no puedo hablarlo, pero cómo puedo hablarlo cuando no me enseñó?

19 Name: Anonymous Linguist : 2010-06-29 09:18 ID:8ok/Mord

20 Name: Anonymous Linguist : 2015-12-26 18:27 ID:bcS51T8c

hola, soy de Perú !

21 Name: Anonymous Linguist : 2016-01-02 19:20 ID:+A08mM1e

Post enviado desde Chile.

22 Name: Anonymous Linguist : 2016-02-16 04:06 ID:VEUcM1kv

Saludos camaradas, saludos desde Argentina, la tierra No blanca u_u

>>18
top kek

23 Name: kangen water : 2016-03-07 02:46 ID:GLk/1owh

Soy estadounidense, y no hablo español muy bien porque sólo lo estudió durante tres años en la escuela secundaria. Ahora estoy en la universidad, y lo intento estudiar más aquí.

Quiero añadir que la familia de mi madre es mexicana, pero nunca me enseñó español. Gracias, mamá -_-' Luego ella se queja que no puedo hablarlo, pero cómo puedo hablarlo cuando no me enseñó?

24 Name: Anonymous Linguist : 2017-07-22 19:17 ID:BkVRsVqD

Hermosillo, Sonora, México reportándose

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thread EN FRANCAIS (51)

1 Name: Anonymous Linguist : 2006-12-13 11:33 ID:Yv55HcpB

parlons en francais !

42 Name: heh man!fi.Jek4HW6!!gGKYHXFO : 2009-04-25 21:19 ID:7FFUZ/M5

>>32
>>22
EVERYONE SHOULD RESPECT EACH OTHER'S LANGUAGES.
EVERYONE SHOULD RESPECT EACH OTHER'S LANGUAGES.
EVERYONE SHOULD RESPECT EACH OTHER'S LANGUAGES.
EVERYONE SHOULD RESPECT EACH OTHER'S LANGUAGES.
EVERYONE SHOULD RESPECT EACH OTHER'S LANGUAGES.
EVERYONE SHOULD RESPECT EACH OTHER'S LANGUAGES.
EVERYONE SHOULD RESPECT EACH OTHER'S LANGUAGES.
EVERYONE SHOULD RESPECT EACH OTHER'S LANGUAGES.
EVERYONE SHOULD RESPECT EACH OTHER'S LANGUAGES.
EVERYONE SHOULD RESPECT EACH OTHER'S LANGUAGES.
EVERYONE SHOULD RESPECT EACH OTHER'S LANGUAGES.
EVERYONE SHOULD RESPECT EACH OTHER'S LANGUAGES.
EVERYONE SHOULD RESPECT EACH OTHER'S LANGUAGES.

Post too long. Click to view the whole post or the thread page.

43 Name: Anonymous Linguist : 2009-05-19 08:29 ID:Heaven

>>42
Maybe it's his own language.

44 Name: heh man!fi.Jek4HW6!!gGKYHXFO : 2009-05-25 15:59 ID:7FFUZ/M5

>>43
I dunno you tell me :P

45 Name: Anonymous Linguist : 2009-06-08 02:42 ID:TcQUq3M3

>>42
LE MONDE DOIT RESPECTER TOUT LES AUTRES LANGUES.

Je suis désolé. Mon français est mauvais.

46 Name: heh man!fi.Jek4HW6!!gGKYHXFO : 2009-06-09 02:48 ID:7FFUZ/M5

47 Name: NOT POPTART : 2016-10-22 00:25 ID:roBuIHvc

j'arrives à la fête 7 ans en retard

Alors voici l'heure de faire revivre ce thread

Bienvenue en 2016, thread en français

48 Name: Anonymous Linguist : 2016-10-26 10:27 ID:fbw6p7cZ

Et bientôt 2017.
Le temps passe trop vite.

49 Name: NOT POPTART : 2016-10-26 22:36 ID:roBuIHvc

Il neige déjà chez moi alors qu'on dirais que la neige viens à peine de fondre. On dirait que 2016 viens à peine de commencer. Je voudrais bien prendre le temps pour ralentir un peu. Mais c'est difficule avec l'horaire de fou que j'ai.

50 Name: Anonymous Linguist : 2017-07-21 04:30 ID:Dx5R5tzo

2017 est arrivé, et l'activité au thread a été minimale.

51 Name: Anonymous Linguist : 2017-07-21 21:05 ID:qieNlTZJ

>>50
c'est parce que l'activité du site entier est minimale.

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Learning new languages! (4)

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Esperanto. (3)

1 Name: Anonymous Linguist : 2007-07-24 00:06 ID:A/HsDVet

Certe, estas esperantistoj chie, chu ne? Kie estas 4-ch Esperantistoj? Salutigu nin!

Also, discuss how only crazy peaceniks and mad Polish optometrists learn Esperanto.

2 Name: Anonymous Linguist : 2017-05-15 06:40 ID:aJQP5Vvo

Saluton!

Mi volas paroli sed mi estas eterna komencanto.

3 Name: Anonymous Linguist : 2017-05-20 16:27 ID:AphWyQtp

Ĉi tiu fadeno estas preskaŭ dekjara.

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Constructed langauges in general (10)

1 Name: Anonymous Linguist : 2015-12-13 03:01 ID:4xl+8UX0

Lets talk about fake language, in general. Constructing languages yourself, fake language-like writing or talking, existing conlangs, etc!
Ive been trying to build a langauge. I swear Ill actually make some progress on that, someday. As of now I just have a bit of a meaningless poem that demonstrates general sound and appearance
"Slol ne snla snal sesha svang
slol ne snla snlath thnale thrang
snalas fel plr slo mlgn zha
zhe natha
Nyaath al sol ath sava ast
ngathath al so shar navast
sthaf nel ra zhaf alt a
zhe sl ftha natha"

2 Name: Anonymous Linguist : 2015-12-14 02:57 ID:cKunpnIz

esperanto is shit
ido and volapük 4 life

3 Name: Anonymous Linguist : 2015-12-14 02:58 ID:Heaven

also OP could you give an IPA rendering of that?
or vocaroo it so we can more accurately see / hear how it sounds.

4 Name: Anonymous Linguist : 2015-12-14 04:36 ID:Heaven

>>3
http://vocaroo.com/i/s0vmTO5B65PQ
Basically, mostly unvocalized, r's and l's are similar but distinguished, vowels are mostly sorta soft, kinda low-nasally mushy accent, I guess.
Other little things ive written to try and illustrate its sound arent quite so restricted in their sound, so this is supposed to be poetry in it, deliberately made to sound one specific way even in it.

5 Name: Anonymous Linguist : 2015-12-19 00:49 ID:Heaven

>>4
At times it sounds as if you are saying "schlong" as in "big long schlong dong."

6 Name: Anonymous Linguist : 2015-12-19 17:27 ID:4xl+8UX0

>>5
well schlong is almost certainly a word in the language, it fits with others perfectly. Maybe 'Long Schlong' is a name.

7 Name: Piqard : 2015-12-22 09:36 ID:j7Y884N/

What about klingon? They have their own language institute!

8 Name: Anonymous Linguist : 2015-12-23 23:31 ID:4xl+8UX0

>>2
Esperanto may be a shit, but its pretty cool that there exists a conlang with native speakers.

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10 Name: Anonymous Linguist : 2017-05-15 06:56 ID:jmnprGbH

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Toki Pona! (5)

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Conlangs (7)

1 Name: Anonymous Linguist : 2007-09-27 17:39 ID:nTUpCfpZ

So, tell me what you think of conlangs.

2 Name: Anonymous Linguist : 2007-09-27 22:54 ID:bMNDEf/b

Garich i dhôl goll o Orch.

3 Name: Anonymous Linguist : 2007-09-30 14:09 ID:aBIurgJ0

>>1

It's kinda fun, personally. I like to play around with language and the grammar of a language.

I think Auxlangs (the ones made solely to facilatate communication) are fun, but I've yet to see one get enough speakers to be truely useful. Most get about 10,000 mostly from the same country. There's really no point to making a language that won't cross cultures. And they're really all Eurolangs -- so they're easy if you're a eurofag, but no chinese, korean, or iranian is going to recognize anything.

I've been looking at hanzi and kanji and that seems like the best approach. An international WRITTEN system. Something like having a set of symbols that everyone recognizes, and could be combined with other symbols to produce new words. You'd see a symbol for many trees and know it's a forest, or a symbol composed of "house" and "medicine" and know you're at a doctor's office. Even if you're reading the sign and mentally saying "doctor" in swahili, you'd recognize it in Japan, the US, Malasia, etc.

4 Name: Anonymous Linguist : 2007-10-10 21:24 ID:oZVJEawL

>>3
Did you read the Diamond Age?
In it, mankind has developed a system akin to what you describe, called Logoglyphics. Alas, many uneducated people never learn to read because they can rely on the symbols to navigate life, and as a result the populace becomes inarticulate and petty.

5 Name: Anonymous Linguist : 2007-10-11 09:07 ID:MMYYdkBN

Auxlangs are very silly things that will never see any meaningful success.
Conlangs as part of a greater creative work are kinda neat I guess, though it always disturbs me to think that many of such writers care more about making a world than a story, which isn't working with the medium. You aren't trying to write a series of fantasy novels, you're trying to write an atlas.
Other artlangs are all around rad. Particularly personal ones. I've been playing around with the idea of trying to make one, but I want to learn Sanskrit and Spanish first, and I want to have someone to talk to (so ronery ;_;).

6 Name: Anonymous Linguist : 2007-10-13 22:11 ID:aBIurgJ0

>>4

No, but I was playing around with Blisssymbolics (http://www.blissymbolics.org/) and it seems as though something like that could actually work -- if you could have a standard system for combining compound words. Basicly something like how a Hanzi symbol is built from radicals and simpler Hanzi. If something like that could be made to work, and a standard international alphabet were adopted for names and places, it could be used anywhere.

Hopefully it wouldn't replace natural languages, just serve as a way to help forgeiners find the bathroom and the hospital.

But even if a form of international "Hanzi" were adopted, I don't think you'd be any less literate than a Chinese person today. They can read Hanzi, and they are pretty well informed about the world.

>>5

I think in some cases getting the world right helps you get the story right. For example, knowing that the people of Ja'lath don't speak language the same as the Khafen helps to settle the question of how or why they communicate, and even if they can. Knowing that those two groups fought several protracted wars over the last 200 years can help you to decide on conflicts and twists. History is a big part of who you are. I have certain beliefs because I was born in America, in a period of relative peace. I'd believe differently if I'd been born an Indian Hindu living in Kashmir when both nations have nukes. Language, Culture and History are a big part of our beliefs.

7 Name: Anonymous Linguist : 2017-05-15 06:45 ID:7tzH1+CV

What is a "conlang", a thieves' cant? I think you mean planned languages.

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