I HATE BEING SINGLE!!!
Hooray*!!*
Hooray !!
... i mean.
Yeah MSN! You must be feeling so good right now! HAPPY HAPPY!
ｷﾀ━━━━━━(ﾟ∀ﾟ)━━━━━━ !!!!!
You've definitely leveled up!
>I suggested that we get together sometime to catch up on things. She said sure, gave me her phone number, and said to just call her or email her!
>Now I just have to think of something we can do together
Don't get cocky yet. If you overthink this or overprepare for it, you'll end up all nervous like in the movie thing again. Just pick someplace quiet where you can talk with her. Refrain from bringing her any gifts. If you must, then just one small one. You want to avoid overwhelming her all of a sudden.
OMFG! HE DID IT! HE DID ITdkfjgdljbg;felgk'fjgp;!!! BENOIST!!! YOU GO MSN!
In apology for >>235, I will now post something that doesn't sound stupid.
MSN, congratulations on talking to Winnie. It went better than I expected. You got her e-mail and phone number all in one go. In that aspect, you have surpassed me on every level. Good job.
However, don't get too cocky just because she gave you the tools. A well-armed general often finds himself overwhelmed unless he has a strategy to back up those arms. I agree with >>233 and >>228 on the strategy. And with that, I say good luck and Benoist.
Great job MSN Otoko. Good thing the MSN solution worked. It sure looked dark back there. Please keep us posted on further happenings.
Yes, MSN, what the posters above me have said is true. Do not rush things because step #1 was such a success. However... the fact that she ggave you contact information... remember that this means she is interested in talking to you again - especially since you have two options of talking to her! GO, MSN OTOKO! BENOIST!!!!!
Bah, this MSN Otoko stuff is bull. Just some troll trying to rip off Denska Otoko.
So what few other things did you talk about? Did you pick out a place yet?
>>240
While this does sound a lot like Densha Otoko, it is not MSN who is imitating Densha, it is we who are making it sound like Densha. While I can see where your coming from, the way you deliver your message makes you sound like the troll.
---Respectfully,
BenoistI'm back. First of all, I know I say it a lot, but thank you again everybody.
Well I read all of your posts.. I agree that I should definitely take it slow this time. aaah... but I can tell I'm already starting to over think. My happiness is already becoming shadowed by my fear. I went to bad last night thinking that I'd have no problem sleeping.. but I ended up just lying there as my mind ran with all kinds of thoughts.. most of them not good.
I don't understand why this is all so hard. Like I said before... I'm usually a pretty carefree guy.. but with her I can't care enough.
Anyway, I've been thinking all day about what we could do together. Lately, my friends and I have been having barbecues at my house.. maybe I should have one and invite her over? The only problem is that it's starting to get kinda cold out. Or maybe just go get some coffee? I could really use help on this one!
It's definitely too cold for barbecues by now, and inviting her to your place would be pushing it a lot. Coffee's good. Is there a place she likes? Try to find one where you won't be alone, but where it won't be crowded and loud.
Yeah try to do something like coffee or even nice hot chocolate in this weather. Something where you can actually talk, unlike a movie.
You are from the US, right? Thanksgiving break is coming up so you should have plenty of time to hang out over the next week.
>>245 is correct! Don't invite her over. And barbecue with friends? No. It has to be just you and her, unless she decides to bring a friend, of course.
I think that coffee is the best way to go. A movie is out of the question. Going to your house is a very bad move. Other choices are lame.
Choose a casual place. Just a normal coffee shop, like >>245 has said.
Don't go to any really formal restraunts.
Report back, MSN.
>>245 I agree..
BBQ ?.... (no comments)
A coffee date sound graet or movie.. what type of movie she like it?, this is more important.
It is simple..:
a) Go to a coffee shop.
b) Go to the movie.
c) First coffe, movie later.
>>249
I disagree. I feel a movie is a bad idea. It is perhaps to intimate, and gives off the feeling of a "date." Also, how do you talk and "catch up" while quietly watching a movie? When a male and female go to a movie, it is either as very good friends with common interests or and excuse to snuggle with each other while watching it. Also, guys take girls to movies since they have no place better to be.
Let's be less intimate at this stage, and a little more creative. Coffee is good. Not creative, but more of a friendly atmosphere. A movie isn't something you do at times like this one. However... it's time could very well come. Let's hope so.
>>250
Ok, movie= bad idea... but, anybody here have another one?... i understand that, this ins't a intimated date.
Of course, it is better than BBQ :PPP
What about Chinese food? Most Chinese places are a nice place to hang out and talk to people.
I kinda thought a barbecue would be a good idea.. (^_^;) That way it wouldn't be just the two of us.. seemed like it might be a little more comfortable that way.. and they're always pretty fun... but, i trust your judgement!
Well, coffee seems to be the best choice.. I'm gonna do a little research and see if I can find a good place. Maybe one that has some kinda food too...
Hmm.. the one thing I'm kinda worried about with this is that I can already see myself sitting there and not knowing what to say. orz
>>253
That's what I was worried about too.
But that's what we're here for.
Support begins when I get home from work!
I would advise that you find a place that is slightly crowded, like, say, Starbucks or Barnes and Noble. That way, it's not quite so awkward. (Or maybe that just what I would choose. I don't feel comfortable being alone with somebody. lol) At the same time, don't choose a place that's super-crowded because that sometimes makes coversation hard if it's really noisy.
Just some stuff to keep in mind! (^^;)
You said before that once you talked with her about anime. Which ones does she like?
msnnnn where are youuuuu
MSN, there are many things you can talk to Winnie about.
Ask her how her time back in Japan was. Does she miss her old friends? What are her friends like? What do they like to do together? Ask her how she feels being back in the U.S. What school did she want to go to? Are things going well for her in the states?
You can also tell her what's been going on with you. Don't say things are the same as always. "I've just working on school" won't cut it. There is more you can say. You can say you have a class that you like right now. Or maybe you hate all your classes. Is there anything you are looking forward to? "I'm looking forward to next year when I can do such and such." But don't get too deep into a subject unless it seems she is interested. You don't want to bore her.
Whatever you do, don't tell her about this board!
duh.
BUT THIS BOARD IS VERY POPULAR NOW AND SHE MIGHT FIND IT oh I wish.
MSN, come back to the board!
this thread sure has died.
where are you, msn?
He has a life outside of 4-ch and "Winnie".
Hey Everyone! Sorry for the wait. I've been pretty busy with school, etc. Anyway, I'd like to get things progressing again. I've been thinking about what we could do together. I keep coming back to the idea of a group thing. It just seems like having other people around would really cut the tension and allow me to be myself. But... another problem that comes up is that I have no money right now. orz. As I mentioned before, I'm a freelance CG artist. I'm workin on a job now which I'll hopefully get paid for within the week. So it seems like I'm kinda grounded for the moment...
Alas, real life strikes again!
>I keep coming back to the idea of a group thing.
Ix-nay on the oup-gray. This is a casual meeting so you and her can catch up, remember?
I agree with >>268. You two need a relaxed environment to talk to each other, it doesn't really have to be a big fun outing or anything. A group thing might actually be more awkward for her, unless everyone knows her. I really suggest doing it just you two - I think even if you have a hard time getting through it, she'll be more comfortable.
Kind of quiet here lately. So, any other singles with problems?
hmm.. well that makes sense. So just Coffee?
Yes, and mind the noise level when you pick a place.
Coffee and catching up :D
I don't mean to steal the limelight from MSN-kun in any way (good luck with meeting Winnie, BTW), but let's say (hypothetically, of course) that I received a girlfriend (God forbid). Now, the concept of 'taking her out for coffee' sounds like a good idea, but the problem is I don't drink coffee - I drink Red Bull. What would I do with her? Take her out for Red Bull(!)?
Red Bull? Absolutely never! Coffee is the greatest conversation beverage next to alcohol! NOT RED BULL!
There is plenty of other stuff you could drink... Hot chocolate is my vote!!
>>274
"Taking her out for coffee" doesn't really mean both of you drinking coffee (at least I never saw it that way). It's more like an informal meeting/date/whatever that usually takes place at a coffeehouse or Starbucks or something.
Besides, you could always get the vanilla chai or something. ^_^
>>274
Tea or hot chocolate? Most coffee places have stuff besides coffee.
Kinda related; I'm kind of bad at conversations. I can start them fine but I can never keep the conversation going. I always stop having things to talk about and it's kind of annoying.
>>275, take it easy! I was only joking with that last sentence.
All good answers, though. Thanks.
>>280
Heh heh, yeah, I was joking there too. Red Bull is great when you got nothin else.
Is it just me, or has this thread slowed down a lot?
I never found it that fast in the first place
Well, MSN Otoko is stuck waiting for a paycheque before he can move forward with the catch-up coffee. And we're stuck waiting for him. A lot of people seem to also have left since he made his first move. It would be nice if he'd give us an update on his location research or something.
What does everyone thing about linking this thread on Densha Otoko fansites/forum threads? Will they open their hearts?
>>284
Exactly.... still waiting for that check.. orz
Anyway, hey everyone. I think I found a good coffee shop. It's called The Coffee Bean. It's pretty similar to Starbucks, but I tried their coffee and I like it more. More importantly, I think the location's pretty nice. Maybe we could walk down the street with our coffee and talk. （´∀｀）
Well, I'm gonna be out of town for the next few days. I'm gonna take my laptop with and hopefully get this job done! Although I probably wont have an internet connection, so it'll be a few days before I post again. Anyway, I hope you all have a great Thanksgiving and thanks for sticking with me!
Wow, that has got to be the most elaborated internet prank of all time.
I doubt it.
>>287-288
Nah, MSN isn't that exaggerated and this is all pretty beleiveable.
Anyway, I've been away from this thread for awhile.
MSN, i'm glad you found a good location.
Can't wait to hear more. Good luck!
Good luck, MSN! Give us a full report when you get back!
Doo-de-doo...kicks topic
And so begins the death of this topic...
He did say he was going out of town for a few days. I'd say give him a week. In the meantime, any other single males want to rant?
What the hell happened here?
What do men think of women?
Don't let the thread just die because one guy isnt here to make it work. Someone else has to have troubles right?
well, im single now and i have something to rant about. it happened when i was technically single.
we were together for 3 years n some months, then last summer she had to move to another state. tried LDR with hopes of being together again in 3 years. last month we eventually broke things off officially and decided to open ourselves to hanging out n seeing other ppl. unofficially tho, i still cared a lot for her n told myself that the only reason we werent together was cuz of the physical separation. she still turned to me when she was having trouble and she even told me she loved me more than any of the guys she was seeing.
she's always been honest tho n never kept anything from me. one day she tells me shes gotten serious n intimate w/one of the guys. "i like him, but i love you" she tells me.
she also told me that she would drop that guy just like that if i were there n that she wants us to still be together after 3 more years, but is it wrong that now i cant look at her the same way. i know we weren't technically together anymore, but i felt so cheated. the price i pay for having faith in the back of my mind that 3 years wasnt gonna be that bad. =(
>>299
What the fuck is wrong with you?!?!?!?!?
you are such a lucky man!
get a plane ticket!
Go see her!
You can at least visit!
Do not let something like physical seperation keep you from being in a relationship. If you truly love someone, you can wait forever for them.
You are not single.
You have a very sweet girl there for you, now go see her!
300GEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEET~
if only i could see her =(
im a full time student w/o a job n living off his parents. any free time i have is consumed by research n volunteerwork (which i need for med school)
>>301
this is where you're a better man than me. If I were in your position, I would quit school and go live with her. I'm fine with only getting $7 an hour, and after living expenses, having $200 a month. But that's mostly because I have everything I need. The only thing I care about in life is to be with the one I love. That is the only thing, and I will do anything to get it.
You, on the other hand, make more sense and are more wise.
However.
You cannot let these things ruin such a great relationship. Otherwise, it will be completly gone before you know it.
So get out there and visit her. Winter break is coming up soon, no?
Hmm...well, since MSN isn't here, I might as well rant too. I'm single. Always have, probably always will. I wouldn't call myself a picky man woman-wise. I pretty much like every girl that (willingly) hangs around me. However, I can never bring myself to tell them. I dunno what it is but I just don't want to ruin the friendship by being turned down and then not talking. Thus, I'm stuck with a bunch of friends. Nothing more, nothing less. oh are zee.
u say you have a bunch of girl-friends anyway, why not take the risk on one of 'em to be your girlfriend ;)
and instead of us, get ur girl-friends to help you, im sure they'll be more helpful and draw you closer with them too. girls love playing matchmaker for friends ;p
>she still turned to me when she was having trouble and she even told me she loved me more than any of the guys she was seeing.
Friendzone alert?
Sorry to sound negative, but if she's become intimate with another yet doesn't love him and still wants you "if only you would be there" then it sounds like she's just trying to keep her options open. Unless she's already broken up with that guy.
If you do get back together eventually, make sure she gets a full checkup under the hood before you do anything with her. Being a med student you should be well aware of the risks.
>>304
Yeah, umm...I tried having them play matchmaker. Didn't work out.
benoist i don't think it matters that you've always been single and are afraid to ask out the girls you know, obviously none of them is "the girl" otherwise you wouldnt be able to help yourself. You just need to wait for the right girl to come along.
True. Very true.
wow happen to pass by this board...reminds me of densha otoko lol
Yeah... a lot of people think that.
haha but the layout of this board confuses me...i usually dwell in forums where the page's more oraganised....lol
anywhere...where are you guys from?
i'm from singapore...this little island in south east asia....^____^
Dallas, Texas
Norway represent :o
New Zealand!
Toronto, Canada
MSN Otoko, where are youuuuuuu? (´･ω･`)
Hi everyone. I think just like me, many of the people dwelling on this thread arrived here due to the Densha Otoko. I tried to find a similar thread since I have a small problem that fits right into the setting of that drama. I don't have much experience with these threads and hope I am not breaking some etiquette by writing this long post, but I need a lot of space to explain this problem. Go read from the Arrow in the below paragraph (===>) if you want to get to the plot straight away.
In the drama, the protagonist again and again survives ridiculous odds. The odds are so small that it might be difficult to believe someone could have such luck. However, Yesterday something happened to me, something which is nearly impossible to credibly communicate. That is why I searched out this place because I hope people here will have an open mind.
Unlike the drama's main character, I am not really an otaku, except that I've always been quite introverted, and I have no urges to meet people all the time. So I don't, except for the people in my study. Maybe partly as a result, I have never had a girlfriend. Now I will describe what happened. Please give me some advice regardless of wether you put faith in my tale.
Yesterday I rode on a half empty interliner from Maastricht at around 20:30, going home. This bus stops only once in every town because it is an interliner. Usually I take a more local bus which goes to the same stops as the interliner, but also to others, including one that is closer to home than the interliner stop. For the first time in 1.5 years in which I travel this road, I mixed up the buses and thought I was in a local bus.
I remained seated as the bus halted at its single stop in my town, as I expected to get off at the next one. But of course it didn't. Still assuming to be in a local bus I stood then walked forward and called the busdriver that I pressed the stopbutton, but he wouldn't look at me, nor stop for me. I then realised my mistake, and I felt that I was embarrassing myself. So I silently sat down, and let myself get transported over the empty, 5km evening-road. I exited in the next town, with a slight hope that an opposite headed bus might arrive soon to bring me back to my town. Then it happened.
===>
A girls' voice called me from behind: "that bus driver really didn't treat you very friendly, did he?" This voice came from a very attractive girl, so I did not really know what to say, commenting only that it wasn't so bad. She however kept expressing her concern about the busdrivers attitude towards me, whom I actually modestly defended for doing his job. She also seemed concerned about how I was to go home. We found out that no bus was coming for me soon. (she walked along with me as her house was the same direction anyway) I said I was going to walk home, a thought that she had difficulty with to accept.
Somehow, as I walked down the road, and she still with me, she offered to drive me home, then asserted this offer and I accepted. To make things short, I accompanied her to her house, where her parents' car was parked, chitchatting a little on the way. She told me to take a seat, started the car and drove. Too soon for my taste we arrived at a corner of a road where she was going to put me off. I hoped to get her name at least, but I was shy on this and afraid I would bring this in a wrong manner. I didn't get to asking her and we said goodbye. She left me reflecting on that corner what had just happened.
What had happened? a beautiful girl offered a complete stranger a ride home! What are the odds of that happening?
Now the tricky part: If possible, I would like to meet her again. It is from the riddiculous odds that I started to think about densha otoko, and that same drama might have the answer. The woman sent a parcel with two teacups as a way to establish contact with Yamada. I was thinking to also do something similar. I can say in all honesty that I was moved by this girl, unselfishly offering to drive a stranger home. Would I not have a good reason to thank her, and would a gift not be a great way? Additionally, by enclosing my contact info, I would send the least intrusive signal of wanting to meet again.
What kind of gift should I buy though to make her want to contact me? It shouldn't be too cheap I guess, but not too expensive either because that would maybe scare her off. I can only come up with teacups, and that's not real original is it? also, I think that when a man does it, it almost sounds like a proposal for marriage. Please comment on effective gifts, and thank you in advance.
Hmmmmm.....you didn't get a chance to ask what she was interested in did you? As in hobbies, interests, etc. Try to remember what kind of things she had in her car, did she have anything lying around that might give off what she's interested in? Perhaps it'll help you think of something to give her. Maybe something related to her career/major would be good. Or perhaps recall something you guys were discussing. These would all make great gift ideas and let her know that you're thoughtful rather than immediatley interested in her. If not, you can always go with some cookies or something.
Just remember, think friendly gifts, nothing too extravagent; especially since you want to thank her rather than scaring her off....which is something I know all to well -.-... just chiming in with my two cents...gambate!
> by enclosing my contact info
i wrote a lot of stuff then deleted it after i just realized that YOU were the one that gave ur info to her---before i go on, i want to know if you got HER contact info as well to send her stuff?
For a first gift, you'll probably want something that could be useful to anyone. In Densha's case, he didn't seem to be a big tea person, but he was glad to get anything at all. I think this situation is different, sending her teacups here could be good, and although I'm sure she would appreciate it, it's possible that she might not actually need them.
I think the more important question is, do you have any excuse for knowing her address when she didn't even give a name? Be careful with what you say to her, you're kind of on thin ice already!
This brings back so much memories of Densha Otoko, even 4-ch is affiliated with 2-ch (where Densha materialised!). Either way, I did a little CTRL-F on this page and MSN Otoko's last post was over a week ago. So what happened about that little outing at coffee bean?
As for Demian, what were you thinking not asking for her name?? She offered you a ride home, even a non-interested party would ask for her name. It's what we call manners :P. Can we give you some (fill in the blanks) OTOKO? Just to stick to the tradition and to breathe some densha otoko-ness into this thread. ^_^''
He did say he walked to her house before she drove him home. So he must remember the address, right? Or at least the general location.
>Can we give you some (fill in the blanks) OTOKO? Just to stick to the tradition and to breathe some densha otoko-ness into this thread. ^_^''
Nah. He's already given himself a name, to do that now would feel forced and artificial.
>>317
We need to know what she talked about before we can suggest a truly appropriate gift. (we could also use a girl's point of view for this) You could still go with a pair of good quality teacups if nothing else. I think it was a particularly good gift because it's something you can use together.
>>319, Since she walked me to her house to get to the car, I do know her address. I believe that should be a proper excuse.
>>321, I know I should have asked for her name. In fact, I wanted to know almost all the time but didn't have the guts to ask. It seemed and seems still an awkward question.
We didn't really talk about specific things, it was most about university. Let me elaborate a little on that: She is a masters student of law but she doesn't study in the city where I do. Instead she commutes to a different city for her studies twice a week. This is possible in the Netherlands, because it is not all too big of a country. I guess she goes by train. When I met her, she carried along two bags of clothes and shoes that she had bought in that city. Those were, according to her, the result of a last shopping spree before her exams which are end of december.
Those are more memories than I thought I would have remembered! Writing about them really helped... but I don't see many hints in them yet.
You know what they say about Dutch people? They're supposed to be stingy. I don't want to be stingy, but if the gift does not have the effect of at least reestablishing contact I don't want to have spent too much money on it. After all, I'm just a student living from his parent's subsidies.
Finally, I thought maybe the timing should be considered? we both have exams soon, and it is also Christmas soon. What should I give, and when?
sorry to be the bearer of bad news, but you don't have anything going for you. despite his introverted otaku-ness, densha did help the pretty lady. in this scenario it was the pretty lade who stood up and helped you, so then maybe you had the opportunity of being the thankful one and sending the gift... EXCEPT you didn't ask nor did she offer her address, so it might come off stalker-ish. maybe its customery in japan, but think about your own circumstances outside independently of densha. who sends a gift for a free ride?
you are already doubtful and not wanting to waste money. think about why you doubt. i hate to be the bearer of bad news, but you are trying so hard to compare your situation to densha that you might just end up letting yourself down.
IF you're just gonna ignore me anyways, heres this on a tip for a gift: if it was a long trip, then it cost her gas n time... so send her a card with a gift card to reimburse for her troubles... she seems to like shopping.
>>325
Did you recognize or remember any of the brand names on the bags?
A nice thing would be stuff that is good for using while you study maybe. Like some nice cookies, coffee, um... CD can be a tough one due to everyone's got different taste. But yeah also think about what you saw she had shopped for previously. A gift certificate in with a thoughtful "finals survival pack" could be very nice.
A thank you card would also be a nice touch to put in with the gift. A gift certificate would be much too impersonal, it wouldn't give her any reason to contact him. I like the cookies >>328 mentioned. Can you cook at all? Some homemade treats might make a good impression.