I HATE BEING SINGLE!!!
if only i could see her =(
im a full time student w/o a job n living off his parents. any free time i have is consumed by research n volunteerwork (which i need for med school)
>>301
this is where you're a better man than me. If I were in your position, I would quit school and go live with her. I'm fine with only getting $7 an hour, and after living expenses, having $200 a month. But that's mostly because I have everything I need. The only thing I care about in life is to be with the one I love. That is the only thing, and I will do anything to get it.
You, on the other hand, make more sense and are more wise.
However.
You cannot let these things ruin such a great relationship. Otherwise, it will be completly gone before you know it.
So get out there and visit her. Winter break is coming up soon, no?
Hmm...well, since MSN isn't here, I might as well rant too. I'm single. Always have, probably always will. I wouldn't call myself a picky man woman-wise. I pretty much like every girl that (willingly) hangs around me. However, I can never bring myself to tell them. I dunno what it is but I just don't want to ruin the friendship by being turned down and then not talking. Thus, I'm stuck with a bunch of friends. Nothing more, nothing less. oh are zee.
u say you have a bunch of girl-friends anyway, why not take the risk on one of 'em to be your girlfriend ;)
and instead of us, get ur girl-friends to help you, im sure they'll be more helpful and draw you closer with them too. girls love playing matchmaker for friends ;p
>she still turned to me when she was having trouble and she even told me she loved me more than any of the guys she was seeing.
Friendzone alert?
Sorry to sound negative, but if she's become intimate with another yet doesn't love him and still wants you "if only you would be there" then it sounds like she's just trying to keep her options open. Unless she's already broken up with that guy.
If you do get back together eventually, make sure she gets a full checkup under the hood before you do anything with her. Being a med student you should be well aware of the risks.
>>304
Yeah, umm...I tried having them play matchmaker. Didn't work out.
benoist i don't think it matters that you've always been single and are afraid to ask out the girls you know, obviously none of them is "the girl" otherwise you wouldnt be able to help yourself. You just need to wait for the right girl to come along.
True. Very true.
wow happen to pass by this board...reminds me of densha otoko lol
Yeah... a lot of people think that.
haha but the layout of this board confuses me...i usually dwell in forums where the page's more oraganised....lol
anywhere...where are you guys from?
i'm from singapore...this little island in south east asia....^____^
Dallas, Texas
Norway represent :o
New Zealand!
Toronto, Canada
MSN Otoko, where are youuuuuuu? (´･ω･`)
Hi everyone. I think just like me, many of the people dwelling on this thread arrived here due to the Densha Otoko. I tried to find a similar thread since I have a small problem that fits right into the setting of that drama. I don't have much experience with these threads and hope I am not breaking some etiquette by writing this long post, but I need a lot of space to explain this problem. Go read from the Arrow in the below paragraph (===>) if you want to get to the plot straight away.
In the drama, the protagonist again and again survives ridiculous odds. The odds are so small that it might be difficult to believe someone could have such luck. However, Yesterday something happened to me, something which is nearly impossible to credibly communicate. That is why I searched out this place because I hope people here will have an open mind.
Unlike the drama's main character, I am not really an otaku, except that I've always been quite introverted, and I have no urges to meet people all the time. So I don't, except for the people in my study. Maybe partly as a result, I have never had a girlfriend. Now I will describe what happened. Please give me some advice regardless of wether you put faith in my tale.
Yesterday I rode on a half empty interliner from Maastricht at around 20:30, going home. This bus stops only once in every town because it is an interliner. Usually I take a more local bus which goes to the same stops as the interliner, but also to others, including one that is closer to home than the interliner stop. For the first time in 1.5 years in which I travel this road, I mixed up the buses and thought I was in a local bus.
I remained seated as the bus halted at its single stop in my town, as I expected to get off at the next one. But of course it didn't. Still assuming to be in a local bus I stood then walked forward and called the busdriver that I pressed the stopbutton, but he wouldn't look at me, nor stop for me. I then realised my mistake, and I felt that I was embarrassing myself. So I silently sat down, and let myself get transported over the empty, 5km evening-road. I exited in the next town, with a slight hope that an opposite headed bus might arrive soon to bring me back to my town. Then it happened.
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A girls' voice called me from behind: "that bus driver really didn't treat you very friendly, did he?" This voice came from a very attractive girl, so I did not really know what to say, commenting only that it wasn't so bad. She however kept expressing her concern about the busdrivers attitude towards me, whom I actually modestly defended for doing his job. She also seemed concerned about how I was to go home. We found out that no bus was coming for me soon. (she walked along with me as her house was the same direction anyway) I said I was going to walk home, a thought that she had difficulty with to accept.
Somehow, as I walked down the road, and she still with me, she offered to drive me home, then asserted this offer and I accepted. To make things short, I accompanied her to her house, where her parents' car was parked, chitchatting a little on the way. She told me to take a seat, started the car and drove. Too soon for my taste we arrived at a corner of a road where she was going to put me off. I hoped to get her name at least, but I was shy on this and afraid I would bring this in a wrong manner. I didn't get to asking her and we said goodbye. She left me reflecting on that corner what had just happened.
What had happened? a beautiful girl offered a complete stranger a ride home! What are the odds of that happening?
Now the tricky part: If possible, I would like to meet her again. It is from the riddiculous odds that I started to think about densha otoko, and that same drama might have the answer. The woman sent a parcel with two teacups as a way to establish contact with Yamada. I was thinking to also do something similar. I can say in all honesty that I was moved by this girl, unselfishly offering to drive a stranger home. Would I not have a good reason to thank her, and would a gift not be a great way? Additionally, by enclosing my contact info, I would send the least intrusive signal of wanting to meet again.
What kind of gift should I buy though to make her want to contact me? It shouldn't be too cheap I guess, but not too expensive either because that would maybe scare her off. I can only come up with teacups, and that's not real original is it? also, I think that when a man does it, it almost sounds like a proposal for marriage. Please comment on effective gifts, and thank you in advance.
Hmmmmm.....you didn't get a chance to ask what she was interested in did you? As in hobbies, interests, etc. Try to remember what kind of things she had in her car, did she have anything lying around that might give off what she's interested in? Perhaps it'll help you think of something to give her. Maybe something related to her career/major would be good. Or perhaps recall something you guys were discussing. These would all make great gift ideas and let her know that you're thoughtful rather than immediatley interested in her. If not, you can always go with some cookies or something.
Just remember, think friendly gifts, nothing too extravagent; especially since you want to thank her rather than scaring her off....which is something I know all to well -.-... just chiming in with my two cents...gambate!
> by enclosing my contact info
i wrote a lot of stuff then deleted it after i just realized that YOU were the one that gave ur info to her---before i go on, i want to know if you got HER contact info as well to send her stuff?
For a first gift, you'll probably want something that could be useful to anyone. In Densha's case, he didn't seem to be a big tea person, but he was glad to get anything at all. I think this situation is different, sending her teacups here could be good, and although I'm sure she would appreciate it, it's possible that she might not actually need them.
I think the more important question is, do you have any excuse for knowing her address when she didn't even give a name? Be careful with what you say to her, you're kind of on thin ice already!
This brings back so much memories of Densha Otoko, even 4-ch is affiliated with 2-ch (where Densha materialised!). Either way, I did a little CTRL-F on this page and MSN Otoko's last post was over a week ago. So what happened about that little outing at coffee bean?
As for Demian, what were you thinking not asking for her name?? She offered you a ride home, even a non-interested party would ask for her name. It's what we call manners :P. Can we give you some (fill in the blanks) OTOKO? Just to stick to the tradition and to breathe some densha otoko-ness into this thread. ^_^''
He did say he walked to her house before she drove him home. So he must remember the address, right? Or at least the general location.
>Can we give you some (fill in the blanks) OTOKO? Just to stick to the tradition and to breathe some densha otoko-ness into this thread. ^_^''
Nah. He's already given himself a name, to do that now would feel forced and artificial.
>>317
We need to know what she talked about before we can suggest a truly appropriate gift. (we could also use a girl's point of view for this) You could still go with a pair of good quality teacups if nothing else. I think it was a particularly good gift because it's something you can use together.
>>319, Since she walked me to her house to get to the car, I do know her address. I believe that should be a proper excuse.
>>321, I know I should have asked for her name. In fact, I wanted to know almost all the time but didn't have the guts to ask. It seemed and seems still an awkward question.
We didn't really talk about specific things, it was most about university. Let me elaborate a little on that: She is a masters student of law but she doesn't study in the city where I do. Instead she commutes to a different city for her studies twice a week. This is possible in the Netherlands, because it is not all too big of a country. I guess she goes by train. When I met her, she carried along two bags of clothes and shoes that she had bought in that city. Those were, according to her, the result of a last shopping spree before her exams which are end of december.
Those are more memories than I thought I would have remembered! Writing about them really helped... but I don't see many hints in them yet.
You know what they say about Dutch people? They're supposed to be stingy. I don't want to be stingy, but if the gift does not have the effect of at least reestablishing contact I don't want to have spent too much money on it. After all, I'm just a student living from his parent's subsidies.
Finally, I thought maybe the timing should be considered? we both have exams soon, and it is also Christmas soon. What should I give, and when?
sorry to be the bearer of bad news, but you don't have anything going for you. despite his introverted otaku-ness, densha did help the pretty lady. in this scenario it was the pretty lade who stood up and helped you, so then maybe you had the opportunity of being the thankful one and sending the gift... EXCEPT you didn't ask nor did she offer her address, so it might come off stalker-ish. maybe its customery in japan, but think about your own circumstances outside independently of densha. who sends a gift for a free ride?
you are already doubtful and not wanting to waste money. think about why you doubt. i hate to be the bearer of bad news, but you are trying so hard to compare your situation to densha that you might just end up letting yourself down.
IF you're just gonna ignore me anyways, heres this on a tip for a gift: if it was a long trip, then it cost her gas n time... so send her a card with a gift card to reimburse for her troubles... she seems to like shopping.
>>325
Did you recognize or remember any of the brand names on the bags?
A nice thing would be stuff that is good for using while you study maybe. Like some nice cookies, coffee, um... CD can be a tough one due to everyone's got different taste. But yeah also think about what you saw she had shopped for previously. A gift certificate in with a thoughtful "finals survival pack" could be very nice.
A thank you card would also be a nice touch to put in with the gift. A gift certificate would be much too impersonal, it wouldn't give her any reason to contact him. I like the cookies >>328 mentioned. Can you cook at all? Some homemade treats might make a good impression.
I know that I have little going for me, in fact I am trying a long, long shot. However, she did after all offer me a ride. Why would she do that? I hope that it was because I interested her in some way but of course I do not know if that was the real reason.
Thank you for the suggestions, especially the idea about "finals survival pack!" I will keep it in mind and think about essential exam-preparation materials. Unfortunately I can hardly cook and barely bake anything at all. In America I believe it is common practice to bring cookery as a gift, so I don't know but in the Netherlands it is quite rare so I think it would leave a retard impression.
>>324
>>328
Don't give her cups, thats like opening up the presents for christmas and finding out they are all clothes - boring.
How about something todo with studing or christmas ? Some cookies sounds like a good idea, she can snak on them while shes studying ;)
>>329 has a good idea about some home made cookies, that would show you really care. Also put them in a proper dish, so she has an excuse to return it to you :D
No Gift voucher, too imporsonal.
YOu need to put in a letter, thanking her for the lift. You could say that you were so greatful for the lift that you forgot to exchange names, and ask her....
I also think that homemade cookies would be a nice gift, especially in a pretty tin or something. I know doinkies always likes getting freshly-made cookies for Christmas.
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>>326
I fully agree.
I'm sorry, Demian, but please, wake up. Don't send a gift.
Send a small letter or something. If she contacts you, she's interested. If she doesn't, she isn't.
Not everything is as complicated or elaborate as Densha or MSN. It's often best just to do small things and see where they go. Be traditional in this case, not Densha Otoko.
Sorry, but I really, really must advise against sending anything more than a letter. A gift would be weird, stalker-ish, awkward, and in the end, a waste of money/time.
Sorry.
p.s. where's MSN, anyway? I'm really missing you, man ；；
Maybe she killed him.
gift would be weird, stalker-ish, awkward, and in the end, a waste of money/time.
Ok, so you want something casual, and not too expensive. I still think cookies are the best suggestion so far..
No point in giving a voucher, you may as well just give her some money for the petrol, and neither of those leaves much reason for you to ever see her again.
a gift is not stalkerish. people give gifts for many reasons.
cookies would be a great gift along with a thank you note. good luck!
Listen. No girl would ever drive a random stranger around unless she liked him in some way. I am not saying she is in love with him or something, but that's really not something that happens all the time.
Yeah definately he does not want to go overboard here. But giving a small present in return is no big deal. Considering what she did for him, it would not seem stalkerish, unless he spent way too much or sent a bunch of presents one after another. If he seemed creepy to her, she would have not spoken to him in the first place.
Thank you all for the support. I really like the exam survival pack kit since she used those imminent exams as an excuse to go out shopping. It is usefull and it is funny. But what should be in it? I thought of some red bull cans, some fruit and some ginkgo tea or likewise. Do you have any more ideas to fill a basket?
Finals Survival Pack Assembly Project: GO!
Something to snack on like microwave popcorn? (I have no idea what the common snack foods are where you live.)
RED BULL KITAA!!!
Seriously, however, I think we're forgetting the one vital ingredient here - Chocolate. A decent sized bar of milk/dark chocolate (not white, NEVER white) is always a "dead cert", especially among the ladies. You can't really go wrong with chocolate, in my opinion.
iv been single for allmost 5 years now but the times that seem to make me want to be with someone are short but they seems to last so long i try god knows i try but can't seems to find anyone who suites me
orz
Seems like a good idea, so long as its not overkill (i.e too much). Be careful with the chocolate, you don't want to do the overkill thing. Some Chocolate bars would probably work better, then a slab or a box...
The other guy is right, no girl would give a guy they found creey, a lift home.
Let's brainstorm ideas!
Definately red bull. Maybe coffee or flavored coffee. Cookies (even like one of those little single serving bags from the grocery store.) Crackers. A couple pencils and pens. Blank CDs (to back stuff up?). Candle? (Urg candles are like the ultimate gift for when you don't know what to give so probably not.) Index cards? They are good for studying.
http://www.bsu.edu/alumni/start/startsurvival/
http://shop.store.yahoo.com/clarkstore/sprinfinsurk.html
Maybe they have this at a local bookstore, it may be funny and appropriate:
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/0811842304/qid=1133817604/sr=8-5/ref=sr_8_xs_ap_i5_xgl14/002-2871919-1860834?n=507846&s=books&v=glance
(In case that link doesn't work, it's the "Worst-Case Scenario Survival Handbook: College") It seems to have little fun quips so it would be nice light reading for a laugh.
great post >>345
i'd say no to the candles (definately) and not the blank cds..
"Worst-Case Scenario Survival Handbook: College" - great idea :)
What about a nice looking notebook?
Also if you go with the gift basket idea,
1) BE VERY CAREFUL not to make it strangely large and be creepy
2) Use christmas as an excuse for why you're making a big deal about her ranfom act of kindness.
hey guys. I just got linked to this thread from d-addicts.com's Single Ranting thread!! and look here is another real one!!!
haha the world is really small. by reading the last 50 posts to catch up, i've missed some details. at least i think, i know there is a Finals Survival Pack Assembly Project. but why would u need cds or anything? is it a camping business? if so, i would care more about flashlight, fire and personal and daily accessories like toothbrush and stuff. hope that helps!
How about a couple of energy/meal replacement bars?
http://www.roadandtravel.com/health/2005/snackormealbar.htm
I agree with the index cards or a nice notepad or small notebook. If you go with the christmas excuse, maybe a cute santa hat?
Another good and unique stimulant tea is Mate de Coca or Coca Tea, if you can find it. http://www.peruconnections.com/inkatea/physical.html
>>347
Here's a link to a few highlights of MSN Otoko. Maybe you could pass it on? ;)
http://4-ch.net/general/kareha.pl/1130119860/42-82,169-182,185-201,223-238
>>347
Finals are tests, nothing to do with camping
>>347
what
Awesome! A girl I kinda like just indirectly asked me to see a movie with her. It will happen by me saying I want her to see a movie with her, though. Kind of a weird situtation.
I wonder if i'll be able to build up the guts.
haha sure thing guys. I started telling this chat channel to my friend already. he didn't believe me. so i gave him the URL. :D
anyways, where is Msn otaku?
otoko =/= otaku
>>354 MSN otoko is an otaku for girls w
KIITTA!!!
KIITTA!!!
sigh...I'm worried about MSN...;_;
>>358 Worry not about MSN-kun; he's either too busy to post, or he's simply forgotten. Either way, I'm sure he's got a perfectly good reason. Just be patient.
Demian's last post was 3 days ago. Great, now we have two lovelorn schmoes gone AWOL.
Single mens rant thread huh? Trying to start another legend but this time in America?
Maybe I should start then...
I went into glasses store recently, in search of overpriced sunglasses, and a beautiful Korean girl was working there (this was at the Korean market btw) well didn't speak any English so I had to speak some Korean. She was so excited and we traded numbers. She said that she would be moving to Koreatown in one week and would get a full time job at a restaurant. She told me to come visit her.
So, I called her, and let her know I would be going in. A friend and I drove out to K-town and went to this ultra fancy restaurant that she worked at. The food was majorly pricey but I figured it was worth it. She served us a couple beers and some food and meanwhile invited me to her apartment to teach her english when I finish my finals. Later when I asked for the check she told me that I didn't have to pay anything, that she took care of it. So I walked away with free beer, food, and a possible sex invitation... God I hope she's not just after my citizenship!
As of yet, there is no development in the process as I'm still trying to get hold of a suitable container, such as a basket. Tomorrow there is a market and I hope to find suitable material there. Currently the basket will contain 2 redbull cans, some chocolate, markers, small sticky notes, 2 apples, some tea and a small note-block. I hope that will be enough.
Should be enough I think. A cute well thought out small gift is the way to go in that situation. Make sure to put a very short thank you note. Make you to tease! Love is a GAME.
Sounds great Demian :)
How about getting a nice christmas card, and thanking her for the lift home that day, how she saved you ;) and figure out how you can put in your contact info.
Looks like Demian has taken over for MSN...
>>367
You make it sound like a bad thing :P
This is the single man's rant thread afterall, anyone is free to apply!
I AM SO ALOOOOOOOOOONE.
I'm not sure why I don't seem to have much interested in dating. (and no, I'm not HAADO GEI...)
My idea of what constitutes 'attractive' doesn't really mesh with what society seems to view as attractive. You would think that would make things easier, right? I don't know.
I've got to do something, though. I'm 24, and while that certainly isn't old by any means, my opportunities seem to diminish constantly. Part of that is the fact that I've never really dated anyone (at least that lived in the same state, lol), so I don't really know how to proceed... and so I create the idea that I want to date someone younger, that might be equally inexperienced. But as I get older, that becomes less and less of a possibility...
You know, we ought to have assignments in this thread. Like, everyone has to try to get a date this week, etc.
Hmm... it's weird. If anything, I'd say I prefer cute over hot. But it's really kind of variable... I'm not doing a good job of epxlaining.
You're right, you're not. Try naming some people who fit your tastes.
Just caught on late but... I wonder how MSN is getting along. As much as it pains me to say it, this will probably not end fantastically if I pursues the romantic route. I think he should just settle for being friends because otherwise he stands to lose it all. But then again, getting majorly butt-hurt might enable him to find someone else down the road. Demian's deal is in the beginning stages but I think it has some good possibilities. Demian, what type of guy are you?
>>370
If we had assignments i would fail all the time orz
MSN WHERE ARE YOU :(
>>377
Traitor! He will come back!
>>376
Heaven, is it you that I am arguing with in the Japanese thread?
ehhh ignore >>380. I'm new to this bbs and I didn't realize that there are duplicate or masked tripcodes?
"heaven" is your ID if you type something in the email field.
They're not tripcodes. They're IP hashes. Tripcodes would go next to the name. In a kareha board like this, they can be set to be the same over the whole board, over only individual threads, or to never be the same. Saging masks it.
I see... man I'm noob
^^^^ Yay, I did it! ^^^^^ ...
>>386 I see what you didn't do there
Hello, I am >>386's bunion. I am writing this while he is asleep. I must apologize for my owner's use of a name even though he hasn't done anything of note and no one cares who he is. He is young and inexperienced, so please go easy on him.
I don't see a need for anonymity, to be honest, and even though I haven't done anything it doesn't matter much. No one really "cares" who anyone is here anyway. Isn't that why it's anonymous?
Your own toe just pwned you (´ー`)b
You better switch to being anon to avoid further embarasment associated with your name! Hurry! People on the internet are laughing at you as we speak!
Back on topic! Resume ranting on the topic of "SINGLE MALEHOOD"!
I don't hate being single. I have all my valuable time for myself.
OK. People on the internet are laughing at me... thats pretty rough. I don't think its possible to be embarassed on the internet? Unless you are the Numa numa guy or star wars kid...
Being single is nice, I just ended a one year relationship a month ago and the free time is nice. Now I can work more, make more money, and study harder. Life is pretty good. But the dating game is a pain in the ass.
>>392
We're laughing at you because you pretty much ignored the customs of this board and expected us to not care that you did. Way to be arrogant. (´ー`)b
I passed-up the chance of love for game programming and airsoft guns! (´ー`)b
>>393
That's complete bullshit okay. Expecting only important people to use names (BECAUSE I AM SO IMPORTANT AM MY EGO IS HUGE AMIRITE) is much worse than having everyone use names. And being nameless is a choice, okay, not everyone has to or wants to do it.
For what its worth I'm sorry I ignored the customs of the board but, it's not like I was threatening any of you or anything. I'm just saying its not a huge deal. I figured that for people who complain about not fitting into society you would all be more accepting of mistakes and such, but everyone here seems act like jerks towards those who don't understand all the rules.
>>393
And I expect you not to care, how important is this forum to you? What you percieve as arrogance I think is more a matter of me not glorifying all that is anonymous BBS.
Apologies to all, this will be my last off topic post.
back on topic:
Gosh I wonder where MSN went? Oh yeah, he's waiting for a check so he can take a girl out for coffee. MSN... I hope you don't get too butt-hurt.
Demian seems to actually have a realistic chance but I don't think a gift basket is a good idea. A 10$ gift card and a card with a short note is ALL that is necessary. Girls hate to be smothered. They like to be teased. Go all out in the beginning and you get nothing in the end. I can say this because I've failed many times.
this is cuntish
sigh...If only MSN were here, we wouldn't be reduced to arguing...-_-