I HATE BEING SINGLE!!!
She's really beautiful... unbelievably beautiful. She's about average height, her hair goes slighty past her shoulders, she's very slender.... to me she's perfect. Words alone don't give her justice.
Just thinking about her makes me smile （´∀｀）
such a women... you are lucky to even have the chance to talk to such a girl!!!
You just described Hermes PERFECTLY. I sense a conspiracy!
you fail to mention tits, legs or face
dude, is she ugly?
What's her personality like? How does she carry herself? Is she outgoing, a wallflower?
>>204
Hmm.. more details.. well like I said before she's slender, she's got a cute, round face with beautiful eyes and a small nose.
Her legs? hmm.. how do you describe legs?
I feel like I can't describe much more without being vulgar... I think I summed it up best in >>201 with "unbelievably beautiful." There's nothing about her I don't like. Let your imagination do the rest (^_^;)
>>205
Winnie-san's more of the outgoing type... but at the same time she can be very sweet. She seems very confident in herself. She's funny, and she's got a great smile and laugh. For a while, we would talk everynight, sometimes for hours just laughing at random stuff. I love her sense of humor.
aaah.... thiking about those times has made me realize how much it's changed... I miss her.. orz
Winnie makes my heart go haa~haa~...
Don't lose heart now, MSN! You're going to need all of your courage if she shows. Remember your new mantra!
what a lucky man....
MSN, you have to get this!! I will do whatever it takes to make sure this ends well! No matter what!
She went to cook to your house, definitively I believe that your it liked her. when not confessing your feelings she left gotten upset. is possible that she decided to forget you and for that reason no longer responds to you. You must demonstrate her that that is not truth, and that you want to return to have its friendship
MSN!!! NEVER GIVE UP! BENOIST!!!
Hey MSN, my question is: What sort of hair-style does she have? What colour is it?
Hello 4ch. Recently i have been engaged in the subjects discussed in this thread. I just couldn't help on reacting when reading MSN Otoko's story.
I think you are making it worse than it is. I don't have a girlfriend and probably never will, but reading this just makes me sad. If i had this opportunity, i wouldn't let it go to waste like you are. Do you honestly think Winnie-san will show up on MSN? The least thing you could do was to confront her person to person. Please don't let this go to waste.
Me being an otaku in all it's glosy (...) it makes me feel bad. If i just got the slightest chance of talking to a girl at a level beyond "friend" that would make me happy and i would put alot of effort into making it work.
Ganbareeeeeeeeeeeeeee MSN OTOKO!
>>212, I couldn't have put it better myself. More Sacred Words have never been spoken, probably, and I can relate.
Good luck, MSN-kun.
>let it go to waste like you are.
Shut it. He and the girl are both in an awkward position and he's trying to make it work again.
In my opinion, MSN is a lot braver than a lot of us here. (At least, braver than me...orz) Even in such an awkward situation he is actually willing to talk to Winnie-san online. That's a pretty big step to go from not talking at all and not talking face-to-face to talking online.
MSN, I know somewhere in the bottom of my heart that you have it in you to get back with Winnie-san. You may not know what "it" is , but when the time comes, you'll know. Good luck and BENOIST!!!
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|つつ ｜ がんばれ～～！ ｜
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I know I could never do this, which I why I'm supporting MSN. Online conversations are commonplace anymore, basically the same as speaking over a phone, really. I truly wish MSN could go to her in person, and I truly wish he could do this all so easily.
But there's something we must all remember when thinking about how this unfolds and how it relates to whatever we're drawing inspiration from. Namely, and obviously, when people read this, they will think "Densha Otoko rip-off." But this is not densha, we are only saying that because we have seen the show and it relates to our culture - this is an entirely different story - and, one that began a lot differently to.
In Densha Otoko, it was obvious that Saori wanted Yamada from the onset. However, in this, we are unsure of their current status and must take things slowly to understand where it stands on how Winnie feels about MSN.
I do wish they could speak IRL, but I don't think that's the best course of action right now. He isn't "wasting" it, he's preserving it and going very cautiously. If he spoke to her directly and immediatly, yes, it might be a miracle and work - however at the same time, it could end in misery, and be the true "waste." The way we're going now takes a lot longer, and doesn't seem as effective, but in the end, it's almost a guarantee we can get them to be happy together, as long as we all work hard and guide MSN correctly. We need to stand as one, and hope that MSN isn't a total retard - which he isn't. It might take some bullshitting and a lot of time, but we can pull through this so long as we don't rush things and continue supporting him.
That's what I think.
I'm not saying he might not be in an akward position. But as he told us, communication over MSN isn't possible as it seems. No matter what you say about "the modern way of communicating" MSN will always be a passive communication system. The chance of him getting the chance to talk to the girl seems pretty slim if you look at the previous results of his attempts to establish contact with her.
Therefore, MSN otoko, PHONE!
>>216
Well said. At the beginning I thought this was just a copycat thread of Densha Otoko. But after reading the thread again-and-again, I realized that this thread is more realistic than Densha. MSN is a real person with a real dilemma that he is overcoming at a realistic pace.
And with that, I wish you much luck, MSN! And BENOIST!!!
>>216
I totally disagree. Going slow is not the way to go.
MSN had a past relationship with Winnie. They used to be friends. Now he has nothing. She won't even reply to his email. Why is the situation like this? Maybe he creeped her out. Maybe she detected that he liked her but then thought of him as a coward for not doing anything about it. Or maybe she had feeling for him beyond friendship but when he was too slow to make a move she decided she must forget him. Who knows?
I just have a gut feeling that if he goes too slowly, she will push him away.
MSN, I am rooting for you. Muster your courage and go for it!
I'm beggining to feel like we're pulling him in too many directions.
CALL HER!
WAIT FOR HER!
SEE HER IN PERSON!
This isn't what we should be doing. MSN has made up his mind that he's going to talk to her on MSN. Fuck, that's why he's called MSN. I would love to band together with everyone and be united, however we simply aren't helping debating over something he's already decided. I would say, help him and support his decisions or leave this thread. I wish for you all to help support him, and you are doing so with your input (which is all very good), but the input isn't needed right now. I want him to call her as much as the next person, and I want him to go up and be like "huhuhuh hey babe lets have sex now k" but that's not how this is going to work, unless MSN changes his mind drastically.
I hate to be so blunt, but: Support or leave. I already said this once, but this isn't Densha Otoko. He doesn't have to muster courage except to H + I ENTER which he will do with only our support of him doing so - not us telling him to do something else. He needs to be a part of her life again, and things like that don't happen overnight.
Read the thread, you morons who think he should call!
Let's continue the H + I + ENTER cheer!
Hey everyone.... I'm sorry to hear about the dispute... but I got some good news!!
I finally talked to her!!!!
...
!!!
what happened!? Tell us!
gah i can't take this suspense, msn. why didn't you give a detailed post! I was about to go to sleep, too! Come on!
What happened?
Good news?
That means something good happened! I can sleep peacefully.
I don't know any emoticons that can express my happiness!
It wasn't easy though... I got home today around 2ish, sat down at my computer, opened MSN, and there she was! It must've been about five minutes after that before I could do anything... Finally, I double clicked on her name and started typing. Using only my index fingers, I carefully typed out the message. Then came the hardest part... pressing enter. I was so nervous... my hands were ice cold.. I felt sick.. so I came to this thread and started reading through everyones posts. Doing that gave a quick rush of courage, so I went back to the MSN window and hit ENTER!
She responded right away! My heart was beating like crazy!
The conversation was overall casual... although it would always take me several minutes to reply. She explained to me that she wanted to transfer to another college in the U.S. after spending about a year back in Japan, but she found out that she couldn't return with her student visa if she was out of the country for more than 5 months. So, that's why she came back! We talked about a few other things, then I suggested that we get together sometime to catch up on things. She said sure, gave me her phone number, and said to just call her or email her!
I'd say the coversation was pretty normal... but that alone was a huge step for me! Thank you so much everybody! I REALLY couldn't have done it without you all!! m(_ _)m
Now I just have to think of something we can do together... today was a big step... but it's really just the begining
ｷﾀ━━━━━━(ﾟ∀ﾟ)━━━━━━ !!!!!
ｷﾀ━━━━━━(ﾟ∀ﾟ)━━━━━━ !!!!!
ｷﾀ━━━━━━(ﾟ∀ﾟ)━━━━━━ !!!!!
yes, yes, yes, yes!
what to do, what to do...
What are her interests? While hanging out with you, your ex-girlfriend, and winnie, where did you go? What does she like? Is another movie not good? There's nothing good playing in the U.S. anyway. What about a restraunt? maybe just a walk in a nature area? What kind of things would be good??? I've never been on a real date before, so I wouldn't know such things... I am so excited...
I'll be back tomorrow morning! MSN, you've done it!
Congratulations!
WAIT A MINUTE, WAIT A MINUTE!!!! ORZ!
This is too much..
MSN, if she give you your cell phone , your email.. of course, THE SECOND MOVE BEGINING. The first was "h+i+enter"...
Second Move: email her (a few days), some casual email. You know: Hi Winnie, blablablalbla... and.. well.. i was thinking call you , but i don't know what time is good for call. I don't have bother you... and blablablablabla... Ok, good.. i call 'this day', or someone else... be casual.
Third Move: Call her.. MWUAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!!!
Of, course you directly pass to the third.
Let talk to her in MSN. Do you have a web cam? (hehehehehe)
Ganbatte!
YE━━━━━━(ﾟ∀ﾟ)━━━━━━SS !!!!!
MSN worried too much, and then he BROKE THE WALL OF SILENCE WITH A SWIFT TAP ON A BUTTON!
Hooray*!!*
Hooray !!
... i mean.
Yeah MSN! You must be feeling so good right now! HAPPY HAPPY!
ｷﾀ━━━━━━(ﾟ∀ﾟ)━━━━━━ !!!!!
You've definitely leveled up!
>I suggested that we get together sometime to catch up on things. She said sure, gave me her phone number, and said to just call her or email her!
>Now I just have to think of something we can do together
Don't get cocky yet. If you overthink this or overprepare for it, you'll end up all nervous like in the movie thing again. Just pick someplace quiet where you can talk with her. Refrain from bringing her any gifts. If you must, then just one small one. You want to avoid overwhelming her all of a sudden.
OMFG! HE DID IT! HE DID ITdkfjgdljbg;felgk'fjgp;!!! BENOIST!!! YOU GO MSN!
In apology for >>235, I will now post something that doesn't sound stupid.
MSN, congratulations on talking to Winnie. It went better than I expected. You got her e-mail and phone number all in one go. In that aspect, you have surpassed me on every level. Good job.
However, don't get too cocky just because she gave you the tools. A well-armed general often finds himself overwhelmed unless he has a strategy to back up those arms. I agree with >>233 and >>228 on the strategy. And with that, I say good luck and Benoist.
Great job MSN Otoko. Good thing the MSN solution worked. It sure looked dark back there. Please keep us posted on further happenings.
Yes, MSN, what the posters above me have said is true. Do not rush things because step #1 was such a success. However... the fact that she ggave you contact information... remember that this means she is interested in talking to you again - especially since you have two options of talking to her! GO, MSN OTOKO! BENOIST!!!!!
Bah, this MSN Otoko stuff is bull. Just some troll trying to rip off Denska Otoko.
So what few other things did you talk about? Did you pick out a place yet?
>>240
While this does sound a lot like Densha Otoko, it is not MSN who is imitating Densha, it is we who are making it sound like Densha. While I can see where your coming from, the way you deliver your message makes you sound like the troll.
---Respectfully,
BenoistI'm back. First of all, I know I say it a lot, but thank you again everybody.
Well I read all of your posts.. I agree that I should definitely take it slow this time. aaah... but I can tell I'm already starting to over think. My happiness is already becoming shadowed by my fear. I went to bad last night thinking that I'd have no problem sleeping.. but I ended up just lying there as my mind ran with all kinds of thoughts.. most of them not good.
I don't understand why this is all so hard. Like I said before... I'm usually a pretty carefree guy.. but with her I can't care enough.
Anyway, I've been thinking all day about what we could do together. Lately, my friends and I have been having barbecues at my house.. maybe I should have one and invite her over? The only problem is that it's starting to get kinda cold out. Or maybe just go get some coffee? I could really use help on this one!
It's definitely too cold for barbecues by now, and inviting her to your place would be pushing it a lot. Coffee's good. Is there a place she likes? Try to find one where you won't be alone, but where it won't be crowded and loud.
Yeah try to do something like coffee or even nice hot chocolate in this weather. Something where you can actually talk, unlike a movie.
You are from the US, right? Thanksgiving break is coming up so you should have plenty of time to hang out over the next week.
>>245 is correct! Don't invite her over. And barbecue with friends? No. It has to be just you and her, unless she decides to bring a friend, of course.
I think that coffee is the best way to go. A movie is out of the question. Going to your house is a very bad move. Other choices are lame.
Choose a casual place. Just a normal coffee shop, like >>245 has said.
Don't go to any really formal restraunts.
Report back, MSN.
>>245 I agree..
BBQ ?.... (no comments)
A coffee date sound graet or movie.. what type of movie she like it?, this is more important.
It is simple..:
a) Go to a coffee shop.
b) Go to the movie.
c) First coffe, movie later.
>>249
I disagree. I feel a movie is a bad idea. It is perhaps to intimate, and gives off the feeling of a "date." Also, how do you talk and "catch up" while quietly watching a movie? When a male and female go to a movie, it is either as very good friends with common interests or and excuse to snuggle with each other while watching it. Also, guys take girls to movies since they have no place better to be.
Let's be less intimate at this stage, and a little more creative. Coffee is good. Not creative, but more of a friendly atmosphere. A movie isn't something you do at times like this one. However... it's time could very well come. Let's hope so.
>>250
Ok, movie= bad idea... but, anybody here have another one?... i understand that, this ins't a intimated date.
Of course, it is better than BBQ :PPP
What about Chinese food? Most Chinese places are a nice place to hang out and talk to people.
I kinda thought a barbecue would be a good idea.. (^_^;) That way it wouldn't be just the two of us.. seemed like it might be a little more comfortable that way.. and they're always pretty fun... but, i trust your judgement!
Well, coffee seems to be the best choice.. I'm gonna do a little research and see if I can find a good place. Maybe one that has some kinda food too...
Hmm.. the one thing I'm kinda worried about with this is that I can already see myself sitting there and not knowing what to say. orz
>>253
That's what I was worried about too.
But that's what we're here for.
Support begins when I get home from work!
I would advise that you find a place that is slightly crowded, like, say, Starbucks or Barnes and Noble. That way, it's not quite so awkward. (Or maybe that just what I would choose. I don't feel comfortable being alone with somebody. lol) At the same time, don't choose a place that's super-crowded because that sometimes makes coversation hard if it's really noisy.
Just some stuff to keep in mind! (^^;)
You said before that once you talked with her about anime. Which ones does she like?
msnnnn where are youuuuu
MSN, there are many things you can talk to Winnie about.
Ask her how her time back in Japan was. Does she miss her old friends? What are her friends like? What do they like to do together? Ask her how she feels being back in the U.S. What school did she want to go to? Are things going well for her in the states?
You can also tell her what's been going on with you. Don't say things are the same as always. "I've just working on school" won't cut it. There is more you can say. You can say you have a class that you like right now. Or maybe you hate all your classes. Is there anything you are looking forward to? "I'm looking forward to next year when I can do such and such." But don't get too deep into a subject unless it seems she is interested. You don't want to bore her.
Whatever you do, don't tell her about this board!
duh.
BUT THIS BOARD IS VERY POPULAR NOW AND SHE MIGHT FIND IT oh I wish.
MSN, come back to the board!
this thread sure has died.
where are you, msn?
He has a life outside of 4-ch and "Winnie".
Hey Everyone! Sorry for the wait. I've been pretty busy with school, etc. Anyway, I'd like to get things progressing again. I've been thinking about what we could do together. I keep coming back to the idea of a group thing. It just seems like having other people around would really cut the tension and allow me to be myself. But... another problem that comes up is that I have no money right now. orz. As I mentioned before, I'm a freelance CG artist. I'm workin on a job now which I'll hopefully get paid for within the week. So it seems like I'm kinda grounded for the moment...
Alas, real life strikes again!
>I keep coming back to the idea of a group thing.
Ix-nay on the oup-gray. This is a casual meeting so you and her can catch up, remember?
I agree with >>268. You two need a relaxed environment to talk to each other, it doesn't really have to be a big fun outing or anything. A group thing might actually be more awkward for her, unless everyone knows her. I really suggest doing it just you two - I think even if you have a hard time getting through it, she'll be more comfortable.
Kind of quiet here lately. So, any other singles with problems?
hmm.. well that makes sense. So just Coffee?
Yes, and mind the noise level when you pick a place.
Coffee and catching up :D
I don't mean to steal the limelight from MSN-kun in any way (good luck with meeting Winnie, BTW), but let's say (hypothetically, of course) that I received a girlfriend (God forbid). Now, the concept of 'taking her out for coffee' sounds like a good idea, but the problem is I don't drink coffee - I drink Red Bull. What would I do with her? Take her out for Red Bull(!)?
Red Bull? Absolutely never! Coffee is the greatest conversation beverage next to alcohol! NOT RED BULL!
There is plenty of other stuff you could drink... Hot chocolate is my vote!!
>>274
"Taking her out for coffee" doesn't really mean both of you drinking coffee (at least I never saw it that way). It's more like an informal meeting/date/whatever that usually takes place at a coffeehouse or Starbucks or something.
Besides, you could always get the vanilla chai or something. ^_^
>>274
Tea or hot chocolate? Most coffee places have stuff besides coffee.
Kinda related; I'm kind of bad at conversations. I can start them fine but I can never keep the conversation going. I always stop having things to talk about and it's kind of annoying.
>>275, take it easy! I was only joking with that last sentence.
All good answers, though. Thanks.
>>280
Heh heh, yeah, I was joking there too. Red Bull is great when you got nothin else.
Is it just me, or has this thread slowed down a lot?
I never found it that fast in the first place
Well, MSN Otoko is stuck waiting for a paycheque before he can move forward with the catch-up coffee. And we're stuck waiting for him. A lot of people seem to also have left since he made his first move. It would be nice if he'd give us an update on his location research or something.
What does everyone thing about linking this thread on Densha Otoko fansites/forum threads? Will they open their hearts?
>>284
Exactly.... still waiting for that check.. orz
Anyway, hey everyone. I think I found a good coffee shop. It's called The Coffee Bean. It's pretty similar to Starbucks, but I tried their coffee and I like it more. More importantly, I think the location's pretty nice. Maybe we could walk down the street with our coffee and talk. （´∀｀）
Well, I'm gonna be out of town for the next few days. I'm gonna take my laptop with and hopefully get this job done! Although I probably wont have an internet connection, so it'll be a few days before I post again. Anyway, I hope you all have a great Thanksgiving and thanks for sticking with me!
Wow, that has got to be the most elaborated internet prank of all time.
I doubt it.
>>287-288
Nah, MSN isn't that exaggerated and this is all pretty beleiveable.
Anyway, I've been away from this thread for awhile.
MSN, i'm glad you found a good location.
Can't wait to hear more. Good luck!
Good luck, MSN! Give us a full report when you get back!
Doo-de-doo...kicks topic
And so begins the death of this topic...
He did say he was going out of town for a few days. I'd say give him a week. In the meantime, any other single males want to rant?
What the hell happened here?
What do men think of women?
Don't let the thread just die because one guy isnt here to make it work. Someone else has to have troubles right?
well, im single now and i have something to rant about. it happened when i was technically single.
we were together for 3 years n some months, then last summer she had to move to another state. tried LDR with hopes of being together again in 3 years. last month we eventually broke things off officially and decided to open ourselves to hanging out n seeing other ppl. unofficially tho, i still cared a lot for her n told myself that the only reason we werent together was cuz of the physical separation. she still turned to me when she was having trouble and she even told me she loved me more than any of the guys she was seeing.
she's always been honest tho n never kept anything from me. one day she tells me shes gotten serious n intimate w/one of the guys. "i like him, but i love you" she tells me.
she also told me that she would drop that guy just like that if i were there n that she wants us to still be together after 3 more years, but is it wrong that now i cant look at her the same way. i know we weren't technically together anymore, but i felt so cheated. the price i pay for having faith in the back of my mind that 3 years wasnt gonna be that bad. =(
>>299
What the fuck is wrong with you?!?!?!?!?
you are such a lucky man!
get a plane ticket!
Go see her!
You can at least visit!
Do not let something like physical seperation keep you from being in a relationship. If you truly love someone, you can wait forever for them.
You are not single.
You have a very sweet girl there for you, now go see her!
300GEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEET~