Hi, loving everyone!^^ I'm 19years old, a Japanese Otaku.
I'm a high school graduate who is preparing for another chance to enter a college.(This is called "Rounin" in Japan, a masterless Samurai is also called "Rounin".)
I made every effort to enter college, but college refused me, because I couldn't read/write English well.
So, I want you to speak to me easily, and point out my wrong.
You can ask me everything! I'm not a grim person.^^ I love you all.(^ε^)
come on! come on everybody!
Do you think this sentences childish?
...oh,excursus.
I like WWE,progressive rock. thanks for reading
こんにちは。
It's a little cold in Sendai. The highest temperature during the day is about 23 degree centigrade. I should prepare for autumn!
How about this?!
ttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zhInJeOChTs
I want to be an elementary school teacher :)
>>486
Ah, that's okay. We'll just speak here, then.
It isn't nice weather here either. I'm actually ill at the moment. :(
Programming is very cool. Not many girls are interested in it... So you're going to teach programming at an elemantary school? ;)
Heh, the anime seems interesting. I read that it starts in october. Are you going to watch it?
>So you're going to teach programming at an elemantary school?
Maybe there isn't a class of programming at an elementary school in Japan. Alas..
>Heh, the anime seems interesting.
It is called ペドアニメ(pedophilian animation). But in an anime and the reality, I think it differs a little.
>I read that it starts in october. Are you going to watch it?
Suuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuure.
By the way, config.sys, I want to know more about you! Does your house have a windmill? Do you always wear boots made from wood? How about your college? What would you do in the future?
There are many many many questions!
午後１時から集中講義があります。現在は午前11時30分。
いってきま～す。
分からないことがあったら、何でも訊いてね(^o^)/~
>>493
Hi 1! How are you doing?
>Maybe there isn't a class of programming at an elementary school in Japan. Alas..
Yeah, that was my point. But it's interesting either way, maybe when you get into it you'll even change your mind.
>Does your house have a windmill?
Not at all. Holland is a very crowded place, you know. It's very small, but there are quite a lot of people living here. The result is that there isn't much space for anyone. I live in a village near a city, in a medium sized house next to a line of more of those houses. There's no way there would fit a windmill in the small garden. :)
>Do you always wear boots made from wood?
Every country has a lot of stories about cultural things of the past. Usually, when you actually visit the country it's different than you've heard it to be, and more 'normal' than you had expected. I think Japan is a little bit of an exception, it seems to me that it likes to keep its cultural traditions. In Holland though, people mostly wear the same things as in America I guess, and there aren't any special times when you wear traditional clothing. I don't think I've ever worn those boots made of wood ('klompen') actually (but they don't seem very comfortable ;). But I do have to say there are more old-fashioned parts, especially in the north, where people still have farms and windmills - and where people wear klompen. So it's still there.
>How about your college? What would you do in the future?
Hmmm... Since I was little I've always been interested in games and the development of it. There are colleges for that here, so I might choose that. I've put quite some time in learning how to make games, and I think I'm able to make one as I can make the program, music and graphics myself - but I haven't finished a proper game in my whole life! I hope this will change soon though, I have plans for an abstract acion game, and I'm really motivated to actually produce this to show what I'm capable of. Do you know Tetris: The Grand Master series? I was thinking of a kind of style to make it in, and I'm quite inspired by it. I have seen how fast Japanese players are, so I will be sure to put a Japanese language mode in it. Maybe you can help to translate it then? (This is at some point in the future, I have no idea when this is as school should be my priority. orz)
>There are many many many questions!
Bring them on! ;)
Hello! I cought a cold.
>>494
I'm sorry, but I'm still writing...Sorry, please wait.
oh! I made a mistake.
cought -> caught
Japanese English pronunciation brought it. It's not my fault :)
Hmm, I've never thought of the time you'd need to write a post. So, take your time! :) Did you have a good weekend?
>>497
Hi. I check here everyday, but I cannot write everyday...
I'm sorry. It's my fault.
Again, it doesn't matter.
I do have a question for you... You have the わ and は character, but sometimes the は is used instead of the わ. An example is: こんいちは, konnichi ha. Does the は change its pronunciation when it's used as a particle?
Yes, it's pronounced as わ as a particle. Similarly へ is pronounced 'e' if you feel like it (most people do) and を is pronounced 'o' (most people don't).
>>500
Okay, thanks!
Hmm... will you have time to post again soon, >>1?
I love you, 1.
>>509
I have been busy with my club activity. I belong to the club which the members make a plane flown by human strength.
ttp://youtube.com/watch?v=1dfHisbKfZM
But don't ask me anything about it, I do not know anything!
faggots
Hey, welcome back.
>>508
Gah, I haven't studied Japanese enough to understand most of that. (I promise I will understand soon, though. I wish I was as sophisticated as you...) So in response to the little I understood: don't be sorry and post whenever you feel like it or have time to. It doesn't have any priority. It's nice that you still look at the messages here!
>>510
That looks impressive, has that ever been achieved before? I'm going to keep an eye on that project.
>>512
Haha, that combination of words made me laugh. :) I don't think I've ever heard that before... And don't mind trolls like Anti-Squeeks.
Good morning to each and everyone of you. :)
>>513
Thanks, I do want to study English more! But I cannot find a clue to study. Because I'm a college student. There is not a 'study model'. Studying by oneself is not so easy.
>That looks impressive, has that ever been achieved before? I'm going to keep an eye on that project.
We won the 2nd place this year. And last year, we won the 1st place.(Though I wasn't concerned with them.^^;) It is the project promoted by one telecasting corporation.
>>514 Niglet, drink bleach and join the white race.
>>515
Hey, I'm a yellow one. But I wanna join the white race.
I want to born again as a white woman with blonde hair in the next world :)
The Japanese people in this thread write English quite well.
How's your pronunciation, though? Since Japanese is extremely simple phonemically, good pronunciation won't come easily...
However, English isn't so hard to speak, as it doesn't have many sounds which are difficult to pronounce per se, such as uvular sounds and trills.
I could, however, create a YouTube account with videos explaining the basics of English pronunciation if anyone wants me to.
The guttural English Rrr
and the thorn th Þ and the are so much harder to pronounce than trills IMO.
Really? Do you speak English natively or as a second language?
I found the 'th' sounds quite easy. The only thing I ever found slightly difficult with English pronunciation was a few odd combinations of with 'r' in American rhotic pronuncation, though that goes smoothly now.
Point being, though, that mostly, English isn't very hard to speak once you get the jest of it.
Also, guttural R? Never heard of an English accent with a guttural R... English R is usually alveolar, though the R in German and some Norwegian dialects is guttural (uvular, to be precise).
English is pretty free from guttural sounds in general (I wouldn't call H guttural), with Scottish loan word 'loch', and German Bach being some of the few exceptions I can think of.
ttp://youtube.com/watch?v=DSMT9vpuqL4
How about his English? (立花隆 Takashi Tachibana)
BTW, I smoke and drink recently. And listen to jazz artists like Bill Evans. Because I am influenced by hardboiled novels! Am I cool?
>How about his English? (立花隆 Takashi Tachibana)
Hmm, it was hard to hear because of the Japanese dub, but what I heard sounded good.
>BTW, I smoke and drink recently. And listen to jazz artists like Bill Evans. Because I am influenced by hardboiled novels! Am I cool?
Heh. Is it cool to be influenced? Drinking and smoking doesn't change the status of one's coolness in my opinion (I personally don't smoke because it's harmful and addictive). Jazz music, on the other hand... ;)
> Is it cool to be influenced? Drinking and smoking doesn't change the status of one's coolness in my opinion
!!!NERD ALERT!!!
>>1
Good evening. While browsing around I came across your thread.
There seems to be a number of similar threads like yours whose goals are improving one's English skills. Of course most of them are non-natives.
But I think they evevtually ended in failure to let their thread last long because they don't have perseverance.
They tend to give up easily.
So I look up to you in that respect.
You created this thread about 9 months ago and you're still active. That's an admirable thing. Keep it up.
From an anonymous English learner.
It snowed today!
ttp://www.kahoku.co.jp/news/2007/11/20071122t13042.htm
Well, try not to read too many Haruki Murakami novels. They're unhealthy.
(Though apparently he writes like he's translating from English?)
>>529
I don't like them. I like Kenji Tsuchiya and Kyusaku Yumeno!
ttp://www.aozora.gr.jp/
It has snowed here too! ...but it's gone already.
Happy holidays, >>1.
今日はクリスマスです。
>>529
Murakami is good, but I've only read his short stories. You know who's good? Natsuo Kirino.
>>538
してみると、あなたは日本の東経135度と日付変更線の間に住んでいらっしゃるのですね？
オーストラリアかニュージーランドの方？
G'Day!
Japanese is hard... ;__;
Ik wil een Nederlandse taal een weinig zien!
Hoe gaat u begin het jaar doen?
>>541
If they would just abolish Kanji it would be relatively easy.
>>543
That's what Koreans thought about getting rid of hanja.
>>544
Right, like how it's so hard to figure this out when you're listening to it. Idiot.
>>547
A happy new year too! Although I'm still in 2007 for another hour...
>>552
No. Although I'd want to, my Japanese skills really are not good enough for that. But I take it's kana only? That would simplify some things.
And well... I know many games don't use kanji, but I thought it would limit things in some way. But I guess I'm wrong about that? Is kanji actually useless? asks >>1
>>553
No. Kanji is very useful.
Canyougetthissentenceatonce?
このぶんしょうをいちどでよみくだすことができますか？
もちろん、利点はこれだけではないけれど。
Honestly the primary drawback of kana-only is that people don't currently put in spaces. Put in spaces, most of the problem vanishes.
たしかに おっしゃる とおり かもしれません。
がいこくご として まなぶには こちらのほうが よほど らく でしょうね。
くっき を あげました。
>>557
The same way you do it when you're listening to the language. With a brain.
I found that quite easy myself - especially with as many particles as Japanese has.
Wu bist du?
wwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwww
If you got rid of kanji, how many cubic miles of landfill would be needed to replace all the signs in Tokyo?
Also, the idea of spacing in a language is more varied than I ever imagined before reading these Wikipedia articles.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Space_%28punctuation%29
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Interword_separation
The Japanese way of writing without spaces is known as scripta continua to people who know what they're talking about. Use this term to sound smart when talking about the kanji problem.
It seems that ancient Latin and Greek used to be written this way too. And lots of sentences ended in est as a copula, the way desu does now. Hmmm, I wonder.
>>566
For that reason, and many other reasons you have to admit Japanese is very primitive. Really I've been thinking about learning a moonspeak from time to time, some part of it doesn't seem hard but there are a lot of difference in them. Maybe I'm better off learning languages that aren't much different then move eastward maybe learning Chinese, an uncommon second language in western culture.
Problem with Chinese (any dialect) is that it's hard to know where to start.
Japanese shares many characteristics with many other languages, both "ancient" languages like Latin and "modern" ones like English. Considering the human race has been speaking for at least 50,000 years, 2,000 years isn't long enough to make one language more primitive than another.
What are the characteristics of a modern language, compared to an ancient one?
Hi. I'm also from Japan.
>>1
Are you really sure you weren't able to read English well enough to pass entrance exams? As 19 year-old Japanese go, you write/wrote English pretty well, imo. I think there are many more people who are/were admitted to college at lower level than you are. Hmm. I guess you are the kind of person who gets nervous when taking tests... So I suggest you take STEP tests, pre 1st/2nd level, I mean, when you have a chance. You can get used to such atmosphere.
Good luck with your entrance exams.
Please GO, weeaboos!
>>567
Oh, come on, calling a language "primitive" is linguistic snobbery of the highest order!
In fact, if you must judge a language's level of sophistication, judge it by it's range of vocabulary, and Japanese has no problem whatsoever there. There is a huge range of terms, scientific, medical, military, economic, mathematical, and for which there are equivalent native and foreign imported terms.
Amusingly enough, some of the most isolated languages are also the most baroque in their grammatical structure. Just research a language from the interior of Borneo or Papua New Guinea, your head will spin!
Seeing as you've never actually taken a dive into learning Japanese however, its hard to see how you could form a fair or objective opinion of the language. Are you bitter, or just arrogant? I honestly can't tell.
Vocabulary has no impact on the level of advancement in a language IMO. It would have to be related to grammar alone.
That being said, a "less advanced" language may be simpler due to having less features, and a language being simpler is generally a good thing. So I don't think it's necessarily negative to call something primitive.
>>570
Thanks, but now that I am a college student.
ぼちぼちやって、エコールセントラルにでも留学しようかと考えておりマッスル。まぁ無理でしょうが。
皆元気？
Wow, almost one year later, I check back and this thread is still alive?!
I am very happy today ^^ because spring is coming to my country!
<3
What will you do? I'm so very busy...it sucks. :|
To increase my vocabulary, I use a word book. And to get used to idioms, I read some reimported manga(ex. Maison Ikkoku). Besides, I'll see some reimported anime DVDs in English dub(I bought a cowboy bebop's DVD box). I'll never give up!
Although maybe I should be more serious. I know.
>>578
I guess you are busy studying. Cheer up!
There is no 'today' that never meets 'tomorrow'! (quoted from Japanese anime "Strawberry Marshmallow")
Today, I read a short story. The title is "The Garden Party" written by Katherine Mansfield. I could understand about 60 percent(mainly proper noun) of it. So, today was a good day!
>>581
I once thought that people who liked Strawberry Marshmallow were lolicon. But actually, it's not. Although because of lack of my English skill, I can't explain the reason. I'm sorry.
I like Chika-chan. How about you?
By the way, the president of my university is on the edge. It is said that there is injustice in his paper.
He is the professor of my department.
これはなかなかの危機です。
ちなみに、Yesの名盤"Close to the Edge"の邦題は『危機』です。（ちなみに、『ちなみに』というのは、前述の事柄に関連した事象を述べる場合に用いる接続詞です）
>>580
I guess that's true.
And although that anime seems interesting, I haven't seen it yet. I'm currently watching Clannad, I think it's really nice.
>>583
Huh, you watch a Japanese animation? I didn't know that.
I don't know Clannad, except its origin is the adult game. Then, have you played its original adult game? Have you played adult games? I don't think they are worth playing, ha-ha. They are the shame of Japan. (As you see, I'm such a strict man)
http://4-ch.net/general/kareha.pl/1203180444/5-6
Yay! We won!
He lives in Tokyo, so maybe he looks down on people like me. That's the cause of a defeat.(This is the scientific and logical consequence)
>>544
My current plan is to score well in TOEFL! And if there will be an opportunity, I wanna study abroad. As long as I can go studying abroad, I wouldn't mind wherever my destination is.
Juich omhoog toe! Neem gemakkelijk het!
This thread is as old as the internet and we're only at >>586?
>>586
I don't seize your meaning. You are strange.
Today, I read "The Three-day Blow" written by Ernest Hemingway. I understand fifty percent of it.
##### NOTICE : sentences below include the core of the story #####
Two young men are drinking. One is at a loss, because of his broken heart. And another is comforting him. They are NEETs, so everyday is a holiday for them. They will go fishing tomorrow. Some day, the man who has broken heart will have to go to the city on the purpose of finding his job. But he attempts to forget about it(This is why he is called a NEET).
Sorry, I'm drinking now.
HELLO JAPANESE
I AM HAPPY YANKEE