Technology & Programming @ 4-ch

Technology & Programming @ 4-ch

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1: How do I learn computer? (4) 2: Which Linux distro should I use? (23) 3: Maker of ‘smart’ chastity cage left users’ emails, passwords, and locations exposed (5) 4: [HELP] Single questions & Help Thread [n00b] (406) 5: [CHAT] Fuck Discord! Matrix FTW! (24) 6: Computers should last a long time (27) 7: I like AI (8) 8: is it possible to have fun programming (25) 9: What the fuck is "-ilocal?" (2) 10: any good Macintosh 1 emulator? (3) 11: What would you consider the best linux distro in a post-internet world? (14) 12: Twitter Source Code Leak (4) 13: Trying to make a language in c without learning c (3) 14: XMPP & Matrix (9) 15: New features for BBS software (1) 16: LUnix Shitware #1 Tumbler: (3) 17: Javascript and webdev (38) 18: Japanese PHP/CGI BBS script archive (9) 19: Thoughts on Finishing Shiichan? (10) 20: Can someone create me a textboard that runs on Kareha called pworld? (15) 21: 2ch-style BBs (47) 22: OS Wars Thread (15) 23: Windows software recommendations (13) 24: Where can I download red hat 3.0.3? (2) 25: How do i install Kareha (2) 26: When did you realize that the future is now (14) 27: emanon: redeemable? (2) 28: Kareha write error, need help (6) 29: Android apps for feature phones (6) 30: Have you read your SICP today? (4) 31: fom (2) 32: Printers thread (3) 33: UNIX redone (254) 34: suckless unix tools (20) 35: Audio Visualizer (3) 36: i wanna learn cloud computing, 3d computer graphics, gamdev, 3d printing programming (7) 37: game programming books? (3) 38: do i have to write the polygon coordinates??? (1) 39: Palemoon web browser (11) 40: Anonymous BBS (26)

How do I learn computer? (4)

1 Name: Anonymous Techie : 2023-09-29 21:26 ID:vOTR+GC/

So how do I actually learn computing. Do I start with programming? Then what do I do after that? I just want to know how my damn machine works, get the best out of it and know how to write programs. What programming language should I start with? Should I install Linux? What's a good curriculum I can follow in my spare time?

2 Name: Anonymous Techie : 2023-09-30 05:10 ID:a79gp11T

C programming language. Many languages are influenced by it. After you learn C then just learn whatever you want to use.

Don't bother with Linux unless you NEED to run software that only works on Linux. Just stick with what you are already running.
You will waste time dealing with distribution or Linux-specific problems that would not be found in a well designed operating system.

3 Name: Anonymous Techie : 2023-09-30 12:22 ID:4xO8Dj9/

Unix and C are the basis of literally everything so just learn those

4 Name: Anonymous Techie : 2023-10-04 02:40 ID:PH71Wibb

Read the book Linux Command Line (you can get it free online) then install Arch Linux by reading through the wiki (or just Debian if you want something more stable). Then learn C or Scheme. Scheme is easier but doesn’t have a lot of practical use. C is primitive but powerful and it runs literally everything. Choice is yours.

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Which Linux distro should I use? (23)

1 Name: Anonymous Techie : 2023-06-01 01:23 ID:45ytmAoH

I’m a n00b when it comes to computers but I don’t want to use Mint or Ubuntu, what’s the alternatives? I just want to learn programming with it but want to make it secure enough so I can fap in secret. Which should I pick?

14 Name: Anonymous Techie : 2023-08-16 10:11 ID:rDTQAUYN

For a complete beginner in the *nix world, in my experience, for pedagogical purposes, installing Arch from scratch taught me best to respect the command line, sudo'ing, updates and package managers, debugging (your own stupidity), window managers, and ***this. Just consult the almighty archwiki and you can learn all by yourself.

***being cozy with the command line teaches you how the names of the default bash/gnu/linux commands/programs don't make a lick of goddamn sense and why the *BSDs are a godsend. fuck all of that shit. also, *BSDs are complete operating systems (so there's cohesion in the default programs shipped) instead of "Linux"'s "modular" approach. never been a fan of that

15 Name: Anonymous Techie : 2023-08-20 12:31 ID:hriZzgpQ

best linux distro here https://9front.org/

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17 Name: Anonymous Techie : 2023-08-20 18:41 ID:2Rgofzh5

best linux distro for homosexuals here https://9front.org/

18 Name: Anonymous Techie : 2023-08-27 01:15 ID:j/Wa7usl

Just go with FreeBSD with KDE and Tor. Use linuxlator and wine to run Linux or Windows software. It’s a pain to install but pretty straightforward.

20 Name: Anonymous Techie : 2023-09-29 10:57 ID:InQj5XRr

NixOS is only useful for programmers and developers. If your a noob then start with FreeBSD. The manual and install instructions are straight foreword and well written (unlike the Archwiki). You can learn a lot with BSD. Like how to partition your drives, how to manage an install packages, compiling ports Gentoo style, using the command line. Whenever one of those Arch monkeys acts all smug, just tell the ape your OS is better.

21 Name: Anonymous Techie : 2023-09-30 19:24 ID:HCHEK17t

Just use debian. It is very commonly used and easy to look up
how to solve any problems you might have on the internet.
Its also very modular, its fitting for a justworks desktop
environment setup, but you can also strip it of all packages
and get a very solid autismwm minimalism setup

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22 Name: Anonymous Techie : 2023-09-30 19:27 ID:HCHEK17t

>>21
man that neofetch logo really didn't work out as I expected

23 Name: Anonymous Techie : 2023-10-04 02:36 ID:6UTOlyn/

Deb Ian…. and he broke up with Debbie. I guess the name didn’t age well. Let’s hope Ian doesn’t go gay and start fucking the burnt out corpse of Adolph Hitler so it becomes Dolfyian. A common Armenian name which would lead to confusion.

Basically OP just do what anon said. Just get Debian with KDE and configure it however you like. Just remember to Encrypt the hard disk.

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Maker of ‘smart’ chastity cage left users’ emails, passwords, and locations exposed (5)

1 Name: Anonymous Techie : 2023-09-03 04:47 ID:Sxfg701g

A company that makes a chastity device for people with a penis that can be controlled by a partner over the internet exposed users’ email addresses, plaintext passwords, home addresses and IP addresses, and — in some cases — GPS coordinates, due to several flaws in its servers, according to a security researcher.

This is not the first time hackers exploit vulnerabilities in sex toys for men, in particular chastity cages. In 2021, a hacker took control of people’s devices and demanded a ransom.

“Your cock is mine now,” the hacker told one of the victims, according to a researcher who discovered the hacking campaign at the time.

https://techcrunch.com/2023/09/02/smart-chastity-cage-emails-passwords-location/

2 Name: Anonymous Techie : 2023-09-03 20:01 ID:hhF+cwrs

i don't know what i'm supposed to make of this but i am grateful to have this knowledge anyway

3 Name: Anonymous Techie : 2023-09-05 15:12 ID:EhCnLHLT

>“Your cock is mine now,” the hacker told one of the victims

This probably only made the guy even hornier.
These guys probably paid extra to have their details leaked so they can be humiliated further.

4 Name: Anonymous Techie : 2023-09-15 01:18 ID:RaYB9G62

Dude probably thought it was his dominatrix messaging him lmao

I wonder if theres any way of taking those dick cages off assuming the victim doesn’t pay up.

5 Name: Anonymous Techie : 2023-09-29 10:51 ID:NSaRaWol

>>4
They have to call the fire brigade to remove them with one of those crowbars they use for breaking open elevators. If that fails they call in the surgeon for an emergency amputation.

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[HELP] Single questions & Help Thread [n00b] (406)

1 Name: CyB3r h4xX0r g33k 2005-09-05 20:53 ID:KxkIsG20

If you have a single (or some more) question regarding any of the tech topics of this board and feel that it wouldn't justify creating an own thread just for that, feel free to post it in here.

If you know the answer to any of the questions in this thread, please help us out here! I am sure it's going to be appreciated.

I am creating this thread since there's ben popping up too many threads lately with single questions asking for help that aren't really set out to create too much interest.

397 Name: Anonymous Techie : 2023-08-27 17:04 ID:ZAjEoRWx

What's a fun operating system I can play around with in a VM? I was playing around with Windows 95 recently since I missed using it and actually built an old 486 to use it properly with. But I want to try something else. It could be a Windows OS, Linux, Inbox, BSD or something else. I've played with Haiku and like it so I don't want to use that again.

Pls respond and let me know.

398 Name: Anonymous Techie : 2023-08-27 19:43 ID:ZAjEoRWx

>>397

Okay so I might try out eComStation. Archive.org has an ISO available. Hopefully I can get it working.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/EComStation

399 Name: Anonymous Techie : 2023-08-28 01:57 ID:mkrurfzl

How do I learn the truth and escape the Matrix?

400 Name: Anonymous Techie : 2023-09-03 00:27 ID:gbGy1V80

how do i install kareha on apache? i've been following the guide at
I cannot for the life of me get the server to run the kareha.pl script when I navigate it to a web browser (the browser instead prompts me to download the file). I have tried setting the script to executable, adding "Options +ExecCGI
AddHandler", and "cgi-handler .cgi .pl" to the apache2.conf file, and setting the hashbang at the beginning of the script. What else am i missing?

401 Name: Anonymous Techie : 2023-09-03 00:29 ID:gbGy1V80

weird it wouldn't let me post this link
first line should be
how do i install kareha on apache? i've been following the guide at wakaba(DOT)c3(DOT)cx/docs/docs.html#KarehaQuickStart

402 Name: Anonymous Techie : 2023-09-03 01:35 ID:gbGy1V80

not sure why i said install kareha ON apache.
I meant install kareha on debian
you get the point

403 Name: Anonymous Techie : 2023-09-03 04:41 ID:gbGy1V80

well i at least was able to get the perl script to execute instead of download now.. that's progress

404 Name: Anonymous Techie : 2023-09-04 03:29 ID:4eaMIM2N

still can't figure it out
i can get kareha.pl to run inside the cgi-bin directory, but kareha doesn't work when run from there
I have "Options +ExecCGI
AddHandler", and "cgi-handler .cgi .pl" in the directory that the kareha files are in, still can't get it to work. When i navigate to kareha.pl in my browser, it just downloads the file

405 Name: Anonymous Techie : 2023-09-04 16:40 ID:4eaMIM2N

i figured it out

406 Name: Anonymous Techie : 2023-09-05 15:13 ID:Heaven

>>405
Post your solution to your problem.

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[CHAT] Fuck Discord! Matrix FTW! (24)

1 Name: Anonymous Techie : 2021-09-24 07:17 ID:bSKKF4mb

https://tanasinn.vip/doku.php/matrix

IRC is cool and all but it's 2021. Fork in the road:
Discord OR Matrix.

We currently don't have a proper Matrix server of our own yet, but that doesn't matter because you can just join whatever server you want and then connect to channels, or make channels to share with others. Matrix is like IRC -- channel based, channels are atoms, the admin "owns" their own channel to some degree -- users are free to create new channels, and unlike IRC, permissions management is simple AND real end-to-end encryption is possible.

Unlike Discord, where the "channel group" is created first and then contains its exclusive channels within it (with a shared power structure), Matrix users can also freely create "channel groups" for relevant channels, for private use or social use, to help organize similar channels by concept or intention. This radical inversion of the paradigm is naturally more in line with VIP values and return a more natural, bottom-up sense of vision to this space that corporate entities seek to seize and exploit to maladaptive ends.

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15 Name: Anonymous Techie : 2023-02-19 01:53 ID:BpZwTTMa

sorry op, would rather be hit by a bus than deal with element/riot or some other shitty client.........

16 Name: Anonymous Techie : 2023-02-20 08:18 ID:TXQzuW/S

>>14
this

17 Name: Anonymous Techie : 2023-02-20 16:08 ID:Heaven

where can I find a not dead irc even?

Does irc expose your ip to other users?
I don't like how it doesn't store logs, you have to be online 24/7 to not miss discussions, or store logs on third party site.
Plus there are some codepage issues, which doesn't concern you if you never speak anything but english. But I had an experience when irc swallowed everything I wrote and only shown "?" to the people on the other side, because I configured codepage wrong. Jabber is better, fuck irc. Jabber is more wordy though, xml instead of plain text.

All means of communication eventually fall victim to spammers, criminals, and governments. With the rise of ai tech you will see complete technocracy in developed countries eventually, while less developed ones will be irrelevant in most ways.

18 Name: Anonymous Techie : 2023-02-21 01:04 ID:BpZwTTMa

>>17
it is very easy to get a bouncer for irc but it's not worth it unless you have actual friends on irc who use it regularly.

19 Name: Anonymous Techie : 2023-02-22 08:37 ID:WRKGqxlz

>>17
As >>18 said, there's bouncers you can use for IRC. Even if you don't use a bouncer most IRC networks have a host option to mask your IP. Then making sure to do proper SSL/TLS connections will protect you as well.

20 Name: Anonymous Techie : 2023-05-09 18:22 ID:kSYkzz9A

>>5
By this logic, we should all start using FB messenger

IRC is a sane and well-established protocol. It's easy to work with, there are plenty of good clients, and it just works.

21 Name: Anonymous Techie : 2023-05-20 17:59 ID:YjoroCsI

You could literally accomplish everything said in this thread with a well oiled XMPP server.

22 Name: Anonymous Techie : 2023-07-07 14:52 ID:VIvDRad4

>>17

Many networks will give you a bouncer or at least mask your IP but I don't think it's all that necessary. Unless you have enemies on an IRC network you don't really need to worry. Any firewall should block ports and nobody is likely to DDoS you unless, as mentioned, you piss people off. Just be sure to connect via SSL/TLS and that'll give you an extra layer of security. Likewise, a VPN can be useful to route through thoughamy VPNs are banned due to abuse, so your results may vary.

But yes your IP is usually visible by default on IRC networks.

23 Name: Anonymous Techie : 2023-07-13 06:59 ID:U9EkSRFO

Using SSL when connecting to IRC is neat, until someone else joins the channel with plaintext connection and everything leaks in the clear from the other side.
Jabber/XMPP could be enough for everyone, but then, what the excuse would be to reinvent the wheel and /or hoover up all the data.

24 Name: Anonymous Techie : 2023-08-24 18:30 ID:h0GKVNQG

>>17
you dont need to read the backscroll. use it to have conversations not as some glorified forum system. find a network with HistServ so you have the immediate context of the chat, or like everyone else has said, get a bouncer that does it for you. infinite history sucks.

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Computers should last a long time (27)

1 Name: Anonymous Techie : 2022-12-15 22:42 ID:XZH79cjx

The average computer should run for at least 25 years, just stop running bloated shit and it'll be fine. NetBSD/Alpine Linux, suckless-like programs, and making webdevs face the wall should do the trick. Heck, I'll argue technological progress should have ended with the Pentium 3, computers can just do the stuff we do today (just with less fancy graphics boohoo, don't need anymore than software rendering at 640x480) anyway.

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19 Name: Anonymous Techie : 2023-03-08 09:45 ID:q2Wt1l3J

>>14 >>15
I'm glad that sharing that in this thread moved you so. As well as that there are others here that at the very least believe in some type of principals with understanding just how "off" everything is now days. I'm only sorry that I'm just now replying back to you as it's been a little while.

That's really good, also encryption is an absolute must. The more people that refuse a smartphone the better, sadly there will never be enough of us to really validate a "movement" of sorts. But hopefully at the very least the idea will seed itself to another possibly reading this now or in the future along with any other information that they have come across online to take even further initiative for digital privacy awareness. I do the same with learning how things work on the very least a basic level. Ironically knowing more about the functionalities of a smartphone than a hefty majority of users. To hate or avoid something you need to at the very least understand exactly why you are doing so. Sometimes I feel like being interested in technology is a gift and a curse simultaneously. On the subject of your age, that seems to me that it's really the last age group that got to experience life before everything was warped as to understand fundamentally what was going on around them as well.

It was just so ridiculous at the sheer reaction that people had over everything and still continue to in many places with the politicization of covid. There was times I'll admit I thought about wearing a mask just for the privacy. I just didn't want to legitimize things further even appearing to be as you put it part of the cattle farm going along with it. I was already hesitant over vaccines once they were forcing new vaccines to high school students threatening them with not being able to graduate if they didn't receive them. Thinking how fucked up that was and if I had still been in school during all of that I would have just dropped out. Nobody should have the right to force any type of injection of anything inside of you especially with intimidating, threatening, and/or demonizing someone along with it.

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20 Name: Anonymous Techie : 2023-03-08 09:46 ID:q2Wt1l3J

>>14 >>15 Cont. 2/3
Happens every single time with pictures, I'll simply never understand their mentality in sharing everything especially personal family photos with a bunch of fake "friends" on their shitty Facebook accounts or any other social media platform. Perhaps that's the real virus and "pandemic" that people should have been worrying about for all of these years. It's just sad and disheartening that people can't see how controlled they really are. You can only imagine the confused looks that I get when I tell people in public that I don't even own a cell phone. Which is another thing, it's so frustrating that almost every single purchase for anything they want to ask you for a phone number and an email address. I always say, I don't have one to both. Like I'm going to give them that kind of information. Even in the 90s anyone with half a brain should have been able to deduce what these sleazy corporations were up to.

That's simply the reality of it. They just don't care. People don't care about anything anymore. Not a fucking thing! Can't accept the reality that is crumbling all around them. And again, I despise the whole "I have nothing to hide" mentality that mostly is associated with it. I've tried for years myself with people I one time really cared about and wanted to help them. I tried to show others that there was other ways to use the internet. The internet is a lot bigger than just a few "apps on a phone". People have also lost the drive to explore the web as they once did. I still come across a ton of new interesting websites every single time I sit down at my computer. It's not this extremely hard thing to do. Just like with a lot of other mediums the internet and true hobbyists of it are a dying breed. You just can't relate with the userbase anymore. Same goes with anime and video games as two more prime examples. It's to no surprise that everyone suffers depression constantly obsessing over nostalgia of "the good old days". What's even more sad is the fact nobody wants to take action to attempt to make anything like "the good old days". Like I had mentioned I used to help run a few small forums and I've hosted a bit of my own personal webpages over the years. Plan on working on a couple of new ones here soon. Would like to make an updated webring page since I took my other one down a few years ago.

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21 Name: Anonymous Techie : 2023-03-08 09:46 ID:q2Wt1l3J

>>14 >>15 Cont. 3/3
Compartmentalizing is a very good practice, combining it with a good threat model, and proper OPSEC naturally. Having specific VMs for specific tasks along with anonymizing network protocols. Getting some decent hardware to help you. OpenWRT or OPNsense compatible routers would be a nice touch as well. I'm not against VPNs but that's another mistake a lot of people make in thinking it completely protects them. I could go on and on about other measures to take. Something I have been wondering for a while is since the internet has been getting completely assblasted with censorship and most people being completely retarded, will people like us eventually just move over to fully staying on something such as Tor or i2p for an example?

YES, YES, and ABSO-FUCKING-LUTELY YES!!! That's what all of these fucking moronic dumbass people are already doing each and everyday. Getting pissed on, shit on, and fucked in their loose gaping assholes leaking nasty shit and cum from these technocratic overlord elites.

I really hope our pocket communities can survive and that we can maintain some sense of progress with continuing our work even if it's just small things such as our convictions that we uphold and share our knowledge to attempt to enlighten the next group of drifters who stumble upon our corners of the web. It does make me quite sad about not being able to find people IRL to connect with who really understands. Almost a cruel fate that we can't escape from. You're right though, smaller communities is the last bastion of hope. Thank you, for those kind words and taking the time to write back to me. I'm glad that I'm also not alone in seeing things the way that they are knowing that there's an alternate way to live online that's not only better but more practical for our "digital" survivial in these weird dystopian do I dare say, cyberpunk times.

22 Name: Anonymous Techie : 2023-03-12 00:53 ID:c1gj99qD

Still using decade old hardware daily. Most programs usually have an older version that still work and sometimes you get respectable programmers that still support legacy systems. Only real issue I've had was a government related online ID program that only works on the newer versions of wangblows or the latest dumbphones, but there's usually some alternative ID method that is a bit more inconvenient. I'll probably get a new computer when those new mega cache CPUs specifically made for AI computations become more afforable.

23 Name: Anonymous Techie : 2023-07-26 20:15 ID:4QLC7kAv

Ask yourselves, do we really need any more computing power to just browse the web, listen to music, watch videos in 1080p, and play some graphically good enough games between now and 10, 20, or even 50 years time? Not really. A computer should serve a lifetime, programs considered complete, and hardware fixable. The benchmarkers are really just an extension of the marketing arm of the computing industrial complex.

24 Name: Anonymous Techie : 2023-08-04 17:07 ID:ILbf4knj

>>13
I get you dude. I've felt the same way, I used to be on Discord only to stay in touch with my old friends, I thought that maybe they'd make an effort to email me so I gave them my address and left. I never got any email from them. And that's not even the first time this has happened where I lost a whole cluster of friends because they wouldnt bother to stay in contact through other mediums.
The most concerning thing to me isn't that normal people are dumbfucks, that's pretty normal. What really swept me off my feet was entering a CS course this year thinking that I'd meet other people like myself or even better than I, then finding out that nobody has anything more than a year of python experience, or playing with ubuntu, if they've even done either of that.
It fucks me off to no end, and makes me feel more alone because I cannot find a single person who I can maintain a conversation with where I'm not spoonfeeding them basic programming concepts.
maybe next year will be better?
Seriously though... these are meant to be the people who will be my work peers? who will have massive influence on software into the future? That makes me uneasy, because they are so disinterested and so ignorant.

25 Name: Anonymous Techie : 2023-08-04 19:11 ID:vwoFm2jZ

>>24
Sometimes it feels like being the last one left on Earth after a horrible apocalypse. Aside from the brief moment of fresh air you might get reading posts here, you're probably only likely to find hypersexual furries with 6-figure incomes writing "blazingly fast" terminal emulators in Rust that only work properly on computers made after ~2009 with OpenGL ES 2.0 support or whatever (even though more capable terminal emulator programs have been a thing since the 1980s).

I think it's probably because most of the people "interested" in computers at the moment are actually much better at (and happier knowing about) business studies and sleazy marketing tricks than knowing how to design your own Arithmetic Logic Unit or program microcontrollers with a variety of different ISAs or anything like that. They don't really like or care about what a computer actually is and does, so they create countless marketable abstractions on top of it, which also conveniently helps fuel the infinite cycle of throwing away older computers that can't handle those abstractions and buying newer ones with even more pointless computational power.

That's probably why one of their favorite marketing buzzwords is "scalability," because they often only ever know how to scale up, not down. The complexity required to manage the kind of distributed computing used by vast data collection businesses like Google doesn't really work anywhere near as efficiently on a simpler, older computer even with smaller datasets, yet "scalability" is all people really seem to care about. It's great for business, and "computer scientists" -- at least nowadays -- are just fancier businessmen.

26 Name: Anonymous Techie : 2023-08-10 07:24 ID:gWRl8WSj

you've got to be retarded to use suckless

harmful.neocities.org
harmful.cat-v.org

27 Name: Anonymous Techie : 2023-08-11 01:57 ID:vwoFm2jZ

>>26
I think the people who use Suckless are just gullible. They think minimalism is when you use a program that is only 5 lines of code long, but just so happens to depend on a thousand-gigabyte library that does all of the work instead. (See Suckless Surf, and the thousands of clones that all do the same thing poorly)

They like their convenient "truths," so calling configuration files "bloat" is fine but the moment they're confronted with an actual gigantic source of bloat that would require actual effort and thought to replace, they'll just shrug their shoulders and go back to complaining about how scrollbars are the real source of all evil or something. To make matters worse, a lot of them think they're special computer geniuses because Suckless taught them how to run a compiler every time they edit a file, as if changing an integer value in the source code is some kind of monumental cognitive load.

Good luck getting their programs to run on an old Pentium II, let alone configuring them when you have to run the whole compiler over and over again. Having a lower LoC figure to flaunt is apparently far more important to them than programs that actually work. There's a term for this I think, "Chickenshit Minimalism."

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I like AI (8)

1 Name: Anonymous Techie : 2022-12-22 14:46 ID:+AMl6GPD

I really like the text generation AIs. I've been toying around with https://chat.openai.com/chat for an entire day and it's been really fun. It's not perfect, of course, but it certainly has its uses.

I made up a fictional fantasy setting and had it write a story for me in that setting. I also fed it some characters I had in mind for a while, and it gave me tips on how to improve them, alternative names for them to better suit their personalities and even a basic outline for a story.

It's also fun having it write passages in certain styles. I asked it to write a 1950's noir fiction monologue from the perspective of an anime dweeb trying to buy a Miku figurine at a local convention, and it delivered.

On the other hand, it's pretty scary. The fact it can be as flexible as you ask to be means you can ask it to write a "casual forum post" about something and it is nearly indistinguishable from the real deal (minus all the swearing). I wonder how many AIs are already "posting" all over social media sites?

Anyway yeah. Go try it out. Really fun.

2 Name: Anonymous Techie : 2022-12-22 15:07 ID:Heaven

Yeah, I tried it, got "unavailable in your country". Got it AFTER i registered there. Assholes.

3 Name: Anonymous Techie : 2022-12-23 16:51 ID:Heaven

I like playing fake text adventure games with text generation AIs. They tend to forget minor details but are generally very good at responding to interesting choices and fleshing out a story. I had great fun in my last journey studying as a Witch Apprentice and learning all sorts of magic rituals (from shapeshifting to time travel).

4 Name: Anonymous Techie : 2022-12-24 12:28 ID:+AMl6GPD

Yeah. I had it write for me a detective story set in 1940's New York City. The murderer turned out to be the victim's wife, but she only did it because he was an abusive husband.

5 Name: Anonymous Techie : 2023-02-27 22:44 ID:hcRIsVeo

i used to be scared of chatgpt because it would solve simple programming problems easily but the longer you play with it you learn that it's pretty limited in its knowledge. we're going to make it!

6 Name: Anonymous Techie : 2023-03-23 17:39 ID:Krm3vv8l

I might start liking AI when it starts killing the sociopathic tech valley niggers that create it.

7 Name: Anonymous Techie : 2023-03-26 08:50 ID:yh8NBq7V

>>6
Does suicide by tesla count?

8 Name: Anonymous Techie : 2023-07-27 23:16 ID:Qqf8pa0k

>>2
Well fret not for you can now run them on your own computer

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is it possible to have fun programming (25)

1 Name: Anonymous Techie : 2021-04-27 09:58 ID:JBuDvhrK

i am not making anything good, as usual

i am in love with games and its...environment and making it is supposed to be my lifelong dream but it suddenly looks troublesome

16 Name: Anonymous Techie : 2021-11-27 13:43 ID:Heaven

Actually it is easier than that. If every post is just a string, merge all posts in the thread in a single string too, and keep offsets in some separate array. Like, post one goes from byte 0 to byte 264, post two goes from byte 265 to 1192, etc. The issue is I don't know how php stores strings and in what codepage. And if getting the length of string that is stored in UCS-2 is trivial (get length in bytes, divide by two), for UTF-8 you have to walk that entire string.

Aaah, fuck it, just use database. Or C/C++.

17 Name: Anonymous Techie : 2021-11-28 08:57 ID:USz7L+eF

it's all greek to me

18 Name: Anonymous Techie : 2021-11-30 06:07 ID:Heaven

Actually just use json_encode. Should be good enough, if you do it only once a hour.

I was thinking about leaving unused holes in the file, to not overwrite the entire file every time, but eh, too complicated.

19 Name: Anonymous Techie : 2021-12-02 18:58 ID:Lj681mQo

>>1 maybe try to play some zachtronics games (in particular, TIS-100, Shenzhen I/O and Exapunks). in the height of depressive work-spiral, they reminded me why I fell in love with writing code in the first place

20 Name: aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaasdffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffff : 2022-01-08 16:15 ID:yDDdVx3W

i liked programming when i was still learning it. Now that its my job i hate it.

21 Name: Anonymous Techie : 2022-01-09 09:21 ID:Heaven

>>20
That's usually how it goes. Learning can be fun, but when you already know pretty much everything it just becomes a tedious task. One way to make it fun again would be to have some grand vision of some insane genius idea and build some new innovative tech that could revolutionize the world, something of a passion project that aims for global adoption. A calling of some kind. Of course that would require genius tier intellect usually, but still.

22 Name: Anonymous Techie : 2023-02-19 01:58 ID:uqQlyoK3

prog is like any other creative endeavor because once you introduce money everything goes to shit

23 Name: Anonymous Techie : 2023-05-09 18:26 ID:HFGMNCJI

>>1
Try reinventing the wheel. Lots of fun to get things just the way you want them, plenty of available support, teaches you how things work, and it it's compliant with protocols you have usable software tailored to your needs by the end of it.

>>19
Shenzhen I/O is great, but it's frustrating that you aren't given all the available information to begin with (hidden commands)

24 Name: Anonymous Techie : 2023-05-15 12:37 ID:P3eyhwL8

>>19
TIS-100 comes with a manual in pdf/paper form. It's actually useful while playing the game. It's also great for immersion If you print it out.

25 Name: Anonymous Techie : 2023-05-30 00:50 ID:pEGlVN0o

>>21
this rings true to me. the philosophy keeping me going is just treating software as a tool to make something else. if I get too caught up in the details of programming, I quickly lose motivation -- just focusing on a creative project where programming is a means to reach the end goal (ex: building small robots, drone software, even modding games) has maintained my passion for it.

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What the fuck is "-ilocal?" (2)

1 Name: Anonymous Techie : 2023-05-29 21:50 ID:ZRCJwwGZ

Tried to compile Winecx and during the configure process it told me this:
configure: error: You need a version of clang that supports -ilocal to build Wine for 32on64.
Which version of clang supports this? The user's manual for clang has zero ctrl-f results for it, and I can't find any other guides mentioning this option.

2 Name: Anonymous Techie : 2023-05-29 21:51 ID:Heaven

question outside of question thread mods pls dl33t

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any good Macintosh 1 emulator? (3)

1 Name: Anonymous Techie : 2023-02-08 23:06 ID:7L2/USM0

I would love to try this operating system well and not by an online emulator

2 Name: Anonymous Techie : 2023-02-09 09:16 ID:qSvCR/a3

Hackintosh is probably your only route.

3 Name: Anonymous Techie : 2023-05-20 21:06 ID:Nux1z70w

Basilisk II

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