Tom Hiddleston (1000)

1 Name: Anon : 2017-03-01 15:14 ID:JdqnTY+R

Thread to talk about the actor...oh fuck it. You know what to do

201 Name: Heynon : 2017-03-11 15:42 ID:ZlA/bjVC

>>194, >>197, >>199 Odd article, I thought; wonder when the interview was done? Spends almost as much time rehashing his PR fails of the last year as it does on positives about him.

Sounds as if he's trying to position himself how as above the celebrity fray. But the article points out the contradiction later: > ' It’s hard though to match the enigmatic aspect of Hiddleston the actor to his more approachable, humorous side. The photos following his cringeworthy Golden Globe speech, clutching his gong and grinning with boyish glee, suggest a less serious streak which perhaps we’ll see more of as his career develops. ' < Yeah, if he forgets the lessons of this past year....

Many of his quotes sounded recycled, including the marriage one. But has he said this before? > '...every conversation about his success goes back to just one conclusion: art is forever; fame is fleeting. “One of the things I found interesting about playing [legendary country and western singer] Hank Williams is that he was driven to be the biggest singer in the business and then when he finally got there he found out that there was nothing there,” he says with a magician-like flourish. “Being a star didn’t solve any of his problems and didn’t make him feel any better about who he was or his personal life. There’s a good lesson there.” ' < If Tom hasn't said that before, then maybe he has learned something that will stick.

202 Name: Heynon : 2017-03-11 15:51 ID:ZlA/bjVC

>>193, >>196, >>199 About his Spanish, at the M. City premiere, he was asking the presenters for words when he had to make his little speech. And I've seen interviews for Spanish outlets where he can understand something said to him in Spanish and answer with a few phrases, but doesn't try to conduct the interview in it. So it probably is "tourist level." And I saw a video with him about his French (I think) where he says that he understands it much better than he speaks it. And another he which he sings a little bit in Italian and says that that's all he knows. So I think he and/or the press exaggerate the number of languages he "speaks," if they mean "speaks fluently."

I have seen a vid of an interview with him in modern Greek, though; I'll try to dig that out. Might be why he thinks of Latin as "dead" - but way to sell youngsters on studying classics!

203 Name: Couch Potato : 2017-03-11 15:55 ID:Heaven

>>201 He did during the ISTL promo, I don't remember if he was quoting the BBC's documentary about HW or something he read about him. It's possible he said it again for this interview, it's hard to tell given how the interview is presented.

204 Name: Couch Potato : 2017-03-11 16:19 ID:Heaven

>>199 The Italian thing is curious since he has been consistent about his level in French (intermediate I'd say) and Spanish (low intermediate, he says he understands more than he speaks). In Italian he says "Io parlo italiano però.." and I think he wanted to add something in Italian but words failed him and he moved forward. Maybe he was trying to impress.

Latin and Greek surely can help guessing some words meaning, but Italian is completely different language, so I'd say tourist level is probably right for him.

But his answer in that podcast is interesting because maybe he remembered saying differently and decided to be accurate to avoid confusion. Whether it's because he can't complain about lies being said about him and then be ambiguous, or because he decided to stop trying to impress people it's difficult to say.

205 Name: Heynon : 2017-03-11 16:20 ID:ZlA/bjVC

>>203 Ah, thanks. Yes, there wasn't a description in the article of how he said it (cooly, enthusiastically) as there were for some other quotes, so it might just have been pulled from another piece.

>>202 My bad; the Greek interview only has him reading ancient Greek (sounds very nice, though!): https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U5BcuHxsxTo

A recent one where he's quizzed on some S. American Spanish - he doesn't even know that "gato" is cat. Very funny part at the start where he learns that the two sides of his face can say different things in the same photo (though that meme's been around a while): https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0IWtI1WWVKM

206 Name: Couch Potato : 2017-03-11 16:25 ID:Heaven

>>200 That's a difficult question to answer, I think we posted something for Crimson Peak about how it takes years for films to make money back because studios don't make much money from cinemas and they basically operate on debt economy.

I don't believe for a second that Kong has the same budget of Thor2, but let's say that's correct, promo usually costs half the production budget, so at least 300 to break even, but as I said in reality they probably need to do twice that.

I leave you this article, it's quite interesting
http://io9.gizmodo.com/5747305/how-much-money-does-a-movie-need-to-make-to-be-profitable

207 Name: Heynon : 2017-03-11 16:52 ID:ZlA/bjVC

>>200, >>206 Deadline is saying this about break even: "If Kong: Skull Island is going to breakeven after all ancillaries, he’ll need to mint in the mid $500M worldwide range per Deadline sources." -- http://deadline.com/2017/03/kong-skull-island-logan-weekend-box-office-get-out-1202040377/

208 Name: Heynon : 2017-03-11 16:57 ID:ZlA/bjVC

>>200, >>206, >>207 But from the same Deadline article (>>207>, "Let’s face facts: When you build a feature film for $185M and spend an estimated $136M global P&A on it (that’s how much it took to launch Godzilla), you don’t wish for an opening that’s in the $50M range. When you spend this much, the intent is to pull in four-quads. Seriously, I don’t think it was any studio executive’s plan for Kong: Skull Island to open like a sequel, meaning it’s 41% down from Godzilla’s $93.2M opening."

captcha: wow

209 Name: Sosorry : 2017-03-11 16:59 ID:BhrzIqQY

>>201 I remember during the ISTL promo, Tom kept quoting the BBC documentary on Hank Williams, "legends don't know the're legends when they're being made..., etc" I saw that docmentary, and one of Hanks friends said that Hank got to the top of his profession, reached stardom, and realized he had left everything he loved back down at the bottom. Tom references that quote all the time, but I think that the observation about that celebrity not bringing personal emotional contentment, and that being a good lesson is not a statement I remember reading.

Tom became quite guarded after he realized that the fans were getting too close in social media, after he engaged with them daily and took pics for hours at events, and he started giving these very specific and calculated interview answers, where it was obvious that he didn't want to be misunderstood. And he would still re contact the journalist to clarify things. That was why this summer was a shock. B/c Tom doesn't trust the press to report interpret his truth, even in a controlled situation, where he's talking about his films and his world views. But Tom engaged in a ridiculous spectacle, and he somehow thought the press would magically print the right observations about the scenario? Odd. He's kind of fibbing about Italian. Tom took some classes while he made the film Unrelated, but said that he mainly can sing Volare, then he sang Volare.

210 Name: Couch Potato : 2017-03-11 17:17 ID:Heaven

>>207,208 This is also interesting. Boxofficemojo confirms the estimated opening http://www.boxofficemojo.com/news/?id=4273&p=.htm

It could always gain momentum (although this kind of popcorn flick either starts well or it sinks). However, as we said posts ago, this film was always going to need the foreign market, doing well in the US is a good start, but it was never going to be enough.

211 Name: Heynon : 2017-03-11 17:44 ID:ZlA/bjVC

>>209 This is odd. In searching to see if Tom said that previously about Hank Williams, I found this article. It has the same content as the Square Mile one (plus some additional paragraphs) and the same wording in the shared content (though it's restructured to look like a Q&A). Plus there's no byline. What do you think - do fake interviews get published? http://striplv.com/component/content/article/25-articles/interviews/964-tom-hiddleston-the-interview.html

212 Name: Heynon : 2017-03-11 18:44 ID:ZlA/bjVC

213 Name: Anon : 2017-03-11 19:38 ID:JdqnTY+R

>>211 We talked about this phenomenon when ISTL came out - not sure if you were lurking then.

A number of things seem to happen:

1) there is a round table meeting with a group of journalists. You get the same quote, more or less, but occasionally with a change of emphasis. Presumably because that journalist's tape recorder didn't quite pick up the exact words, or their first language is not English or whatever.

2) An independent journalist interviews TH and then sells that interview to a few publications. They chop and change as they see fit, so it is all strangely familiar but you again get different emphasis.

3) An old article is sold again when the subject becomes of renewed interest, or is repurposed, or cut together with interviews from other interviews.

I think that we are looking some variant of (3) using an old ISTL interview. Look at how much he talks about ISTL and how little about Kong; the intro referring to ISTL, EO (remember when everyone asked him about her?), to him being 35 and wearing a pale top (not seen on this press tour).

Remember, he had finished filming Kong before he started doing the ISTL tour. It is not surprising they would ask about it. They have rewritten the interview to put those bits first and make it look new.

(BTW I also know because I definitely recall the comment in this interview about marriage not having come to him - and that this was in fact the interview which was a round table with lots of journos and got reported in several slightly different ways. My guess is one or more journos has repurposed this interview from last year. Not surprising as press access to TH has been much more restricted this time round).

214 Name: Anon. : 2017-03-11 20:38 ID:mJQ6Ez17

>>204 Ah, I heard 'parla.' 'Parlo' is better of course. The 'pero' is his Spanish; should be 'ma.'

>>205 His Greek pronunciation is excellent. I've always said this. I wonder if he had a non-British Greek teacher. I saw the Greek plays at Cambridge and UCL when in the UK. I was always shocked at the difference in pronunciation from American - and not just because of the underlying accents. His is different.

>>206 Half?! Lord have mercy. It is cashmere...CASHmere.

>>209 And quoting it in the damn accent. I hated that accent.

215 Name: Couch Potato : 2017-03-11 21:10 ID:Heaven

>>214 Same meaning in Italian, but accented:'però'.

216 Name: Anon. : 2017-03-11 22:19 ID:mJQ6Ez17

>>215 I was taught pero means however in Italiano. But that is how crap my Italian is! Maybe it's six and one half dozen.

>>213 All of this. There was that one ISTL group interview that popped up everywhere and was both familiar (quotes, subject matter) but also different (format, emphasis).
They are now easier to spot.

There may be some new in there but it's more old than anything.

217 Name: Heynon : 2017-03-11 22:23 ID:ZlA/bjVC

>>213, 216 Thanks, Anon and Anon. - I wasn't lurking here yet for ISTL. I noticed those references to his age, but they must have added a bit about his GG win. So his quoted views on marriage are likely pre-tayto.

>>214 His accent didn't bother me in the movie (but I wouldn't know an accurate Alabama accent if it bit me). It did bug me when he'd do it live, though - way too much cognitive dissonance!

218 Name: Heynon : 2017-03-12 15:31 ID:ZlA/bjVC

The Telegraph trying to make up for having reported him replying testily to a tayto question (and then having that picked up by every other possible outlet? -- "He's sincere, uncool, and all too vulnerable. But does Tom Hiddleston deserve your cynicism? " Not an interview; comes across like the taffy article without quite as much subtle snark and obvious pathos.

Sample: "The 36-year-old, by all appearances, is a very sincere, very earnest and very enthusiastic man, who wears his heart on his sleeve, and likes to tell people all about his heart. And then, just for good measure, all about his sleeve. At school, you feel, he wasn’t just the kid who answered the question: he’d answer the question, then add in some extra facts and a personal anecdote or two, before thanking the teacher for asking him in the first place. And while these qualities may endear him to his fans, others seem to think that they should, perhaps, be moderated."

(requires free registration or can log in through Facebook) http://www.telegraph.co.uk/films/0/sincere-uncool-vulnerable-does-tom-hiddleston-deserve-cynicism/

219 Name: Anon : 2017-03-12 16:12 ID:JdqnTY+R

Bless. He liked an Instagram of a shirtless Hemsworth. (See Torrilla)

220 Name: Sosorry : 2017-03-12 17:38 ID:BhrzIqQY

http://insanely-smart.tumblr.com/post/158309170048/hes-sincere-uncool-and-all-too-vulnerable-but

Some people are re blogging the article on tumblr. It actually is very sympathetic towards Tom. I wish Tom the best, but I don't think he got into this summer mess b/c he is so vulnerable. It was because he is so ambitious. And the awards speeches aren't written well b/c he doesn't understand his level of fame in the US (which is not what it is in the UK), or how his demeanor comes off to Americans in those moments. People didn't malign Tom's character b/c they're jealous of his talent or b/c they are too cynical to understand earnestness, it was because they didn't think he was being authentic. I think Kong opened int he US with 60 million at the box office. Let's see how it holds against Beauty and the Beast.

221 Name: Anon. : 2017-03-12 18:08 ID:yJqenzwX

>>218>>220 Like everyone, he deserves cynicism if warranted. What the Tele is saying is we are cynics because

  1. TH's relationship with TS was the result of romantic feelings...not publicity
  2. his GG speech was purely about highlighting the problem in SS...not himself or his tv series
  3. he wore that shirt to protect a graze...not...who knows what?
  4. he rushed over to speak to Taffy at 6am to make sure she understood the truth...not to continue a false narrative
  5. Every instance of enthusiasm is genuine...not try-hard attention-seeking

...and a whole load of others. Are we cynics for doubting 'narratives' celebrities present to us? Yes, with good reason. The same is true for TH. I don't think everything he does is disingenuous, far from it. But I'm not so naive as to think everything is true and without ulterior motive. Mostly because I'm not 14.

222 Name: Anon : 2017-03-12 20:42 ID:JdqnTY+R

I actually discussed the fakeness of Tayto with my husband as a result of this article. What was most interesting to me about his reaction was that he thought I was slightly bonkers (possibly true!) until I told him of the photo shoot with the niece. At this point he was horrified (I think he had genuinely forgotten all about it except that they had at some point been in the same town as us) and also immediately accepted that it was fake.

223 Name: Heynon : 2017-03-13 00:15 ID:ZlA/bjVC

>>220, >>221 Maybe it's just too cynical of me, but:

  1. The plea for less cynicism is strangely reminiscent of the ending of the GQ article. Couldn't possibly be Tom's PR team (finally) at work putting out this new theme?
  2. SI opened much better than expected and now the Tele wants to make nice?

Riiiiiiiight.

224 Name: Anon. : 2017-03-13 01:30 ID:LlyItHGb

>>223 The Tele made nice in their review, one of the early positive ones. And mentioning that TH got pissy when asked a valid question requires no apologies, that I can see. I would hope The Telegraph would not feel the need for puff pieces like GQ. If anything their first piece probably pulled in the clicks and registrations. This popularity may have spawned a second article.

Has GC weighed in? Is it 10/10 that we are all too cynical when it comes to buying TH's bullshit?

225 Name: Heynon : 2017-03-13 01:44 ID:ZlA/bjVC

>>224 haha, no GC on this yet. But they did give a 10/10 for SI topping the weekend box office!

226 Name: Heynon : 2017-03-13 01:54 ID:ZlA/bjVC

227 Name: Couch Potato : 2017-03-13 11:33 ID:Heaven

TH at Tokyo Narita Airport
https://twitter.
com/CollectAll/status/841206516346642437

https://twitter.
com/hiddles_colin/status/841207441580744704

228 Name: Couch Potato : 2017-03-13 11:33 ID:Heaven

"After taping #JimmyKimmelLive on March 9, 2017 in Los Angeles, #TomHiddleston records a message with Grace Baker (@disneycastle88) to his fans thanking them for their generosity in supporting #UNICEF."
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fAcHC57XY

229 Name: Couch Potato : 2017-03-13 12:34 ID:Heaven

"Weekend Box Office: 'Kong: Skull Island' Scales $61M for No. 1 Finish"

"Overseas, Kong: Skull Island opened to $81.6 million from 65 markets — minus China, where it hits theaters March 24 — for a global bow of $142.6 million."

"The one major caveat: The movie, costing at least $185 million to make before a major marketing spend, will likely need to earn $500 million globally to land in the black."

http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/news/weekend-box-office-kong-skull-island-scales-61m-no-1-finish-985412

I saw this posted at CB, thought it was interesting since we were talking about it. Now all it's left to be seen is whether the film will continue.

230 Name: Anon. : 2017-03-13 17:49 ID:RfsJ7SNO

>>227 Is it wrong that I want him to end up on one of those crazy Japanese tv/game shows? The ones where he has to spend an hour in a room with an angry goat or answer questions while standing on a disappearing platform over a pit of water.

If he doesn't make at least one appearance in an inflatable sumo suit, I will be disappointed.

OT We lost an hour because of DST AND we're under a blizzard warning. It is officially the crappiest Monday ever. My MIL came over this morning with 'supplies.' My MIL considers sparkling water, expensive cheese and smoked salmon to be 'survival basics' so I'm not complaining. She also brought over the ingredients for blinis because 'those are (hubby's) favorites, remember?' They're not, lady; I remember that.

231 Name: Heynon : 2017-03-14 00:12 ID:ZlA/bjVC

>>230 Not wrong at all - it's hilarious! Though after the latest round of interviews, he might be too good at the questions/platform water type.

To cheer up your crappy Monday (I'm in a blizzard warning here too), you might enjoy the comments on Conan O'Brien's tweet that "I should have predicted this would happen - my kids saw "Kong: Skull Island" and now they want their own pet Hiddleston.":
https://twitter.
com/ConanOBrien/status/841336795577094144

232 Name: Couch Potato : 2017-03-14 06:43 ID:Heaven

>>230 For now, we only have a morning show (it wasn't pre-recorded)
photo: https://twitter.
com/nebulas_fujinan/status/841447296067821568

small video: https://twitter.
com/bubbles_love80s/status/841467514320125952

233 Name: Heynon : 2017-03-14 12:03 ID:ZlA/bjVC

234 Name: Couch Potato : 2017-03-14 12:18 ID:Heaven

>>233 The guy in the video is Eric Nam Korean-American singer, television host etc. This is for the Korean TV
http://www.vlive.tv/video/24873

235 Name: Anon. : 2017-03-14 20:49 ID:LlyItHGb

>>233>>234 I know it's just the light but for a moment it looked like he had on shiny gold/bronze shoes. I'm afraid Yours Truly will see it, and it will give her 'ideas.'

>>232 Give him the shortest translator! They must have heard that he likes short brunettes.

236 Name: Heynon : 2017-03-14 21:43 ID:ZlA/bjVC

>>235 haha he looked like a frost giant next to her!

237 Name: Heynon : 2017-03-15 01:22 ID:ZlA/bjVC

>>235 I also like how, when he spots the translator, he immediately looks to his other side as if to check for any other unexpected short people.

>>234 He's a comparatively well-behaved attention puppy in this one. He declines to dance, and dodges singing too. But he keeps looking off-camera to his publicist whenever he thinks he's been funny!

He does mention that he'll be working on something next week that he can't talk about. But when asked directly about what's next, he only mentions T:R and Early Man, and some things that are "cooking."

238 Name: Anon : 2017-03-15 06:59 ID:JdqnTY+R

>>235 Speaking of yours truly: http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/lists/25-powerful-stylists-hollywood-985222/item/micaela-erlanger-power-stylists-2017-985211

This is a dire article. It suggests with a straight face that Ruth Negga (of Loving fame) only became well known because she acquired a stylist.

239 Name: Hey you over there : 2017-03-15 07:28 ID:us8t6Wca

>>238 Yours truly is going to have to style up some new coats soon, from all the tails she's been riding on. Sorry, not sorry.

240 Name: Couch Potato : 2017-03-15 08:55 ID:Heaven

>>237 I was expecting more tv material, one morning Japanese tv show and a Korean program. I guess they did more print interviews.

He is participating to an event on Sunday with Redmayne, probably Early Man related. Or his documentary. Or IW.

241 Name: Couch Potato : 2017-03-15 08:57 ID:Heaven

I picked up on something in this Korean video, more trivial than the languages issue, I'd say closer to his smoking statements. At some point he is asked if he tasted a strong Korean liquor, he says no, that he isn't much of a drinker. It made me wonder if he isn't much of a drinker by British standards, since I would interpret that as drinking rarely and not much. And then I remembered him mentioning how he liked vodka in a 2012 interview http://www.gq-magazine.co.uk/article/tom-hiddleston-interview-style-thor-2

and gulping down 5 shots of whiskey during an ElleUK interview
http://www.elleuk.com/life-and-culture/culture/articles/a30865/tom-hiddleston-interview/

242 Name: Couch Potato : 2017-03-15 08:59 ID:Heaven

By the way, why I was searching for the ElleUK interview on their website I got a list of all the articles on TH by ElleUK, look at their extensive coverage of tayto http://www.elleuk.com/search/tom%2520hiddleston?

243 Name: Couch Potato : 2017-03-15 09:06 ID:Heaven

>>238 Casey Affleck's stylist, enough said.

244 Name: Anon : 2017-03-15 09:17 ID:T0mGBJdw

>>239 Haha! Yes, she has been milking this for all it's worth.

245 Name: Anon : 2017-03-15 09:29 ID:T0mGBJdw

>>241 I guess all things are relative (I enjoy a tipple; you overindulge; he is an alcoholic).

However that GQ interview was a while back (2012), and I think also the Elle mag one (2013?). He has lost weight since then and works out more; and he is further away from his student days. So it might be true. He also said in the interview that he liked "a" vodka - meaning perhaps when he goes out he only has one drink. Most Brits would probably call that "not much of a drinker." Anyway, I tend to think that vodka and tonic is a drink for people who don't like drinking in the sense that they don't like the taste. It is so bland - all you can taste is the mixer.

246 Name: Couch Potato : 2017-03-15 09:44 ID:Heaven

>>245 Thanks, I wasn't doubting his words, but I was wondering if it's more of a recent attitude or he always considered himself not much of a drinker by comparison to other Brits.

247 Name: Couch Potato : 2017-03-15 12:16 ID:Heaven

video from Tokyo's premiere
https://twitter .com/warnerjp/status/841943289553129473
https://twitter .com/warnerjp/status/841948529299972097
https://twitter .com/warnerjp/status/841951963369619457
https://twitter .com/warnerjp/status/841956124551184384
https://twitter .com/warnerjp/status/841965537601118208
https://twitter .com/warnerjp/status/841970267760992256

I'm sure torrilla will post HQ photos soon enough. I'm disappointed Gackt and TH didn't walk the red carpet together!
https://www.instagram.com/p/BRp_bpEFnbj/?taken-by=gackt

248 Name: Anon. : 2017-03-15 15:39 ID:GxnhNqVC

>>242 Is this another example of TH 'falling out' with a media outlet. Their coverage of him in 2013-14 was huge and oleaginous (sexiest, man of, etc.). Then, from a quick glance at dates and stories, nothing from 2015 and no mention of CP or HR (only one of ISTL from when it was announced).

They pick up with him again in 2016, mostly Tayto, and it's snarky. They, like many of us, have a 'history' with him and were quick to note, several times, that Tayto wasn't like his previous approach to relationships. And their take on his explanation of the shirt: Oh, Tom.

He's had as much luck sticking with a magazine/newspaper as he's had finding The One: Susannah, Jane, Elle, The Guardian. Now it's GQ's turn but I have a feeling the 'break-up' list will grow.

249 Name: Anon. : 2017-03-15 15:57 ID:GxnhNqVC

>>247 I'll admit to falling into the rabbit hole of Gackt's IG. And I'm not sorry. It was magical. Those aren't his real lips, are they? Those aren't his real pecs, are they? Either way, I love him. Excuse me while I decamp to the Gackt board.

>>243 Nuff said indeed.

>>241>>245 Bet he put a few away during the summer! Remember the giant, nearly empty wine glass in the porch pic? The one he was gripping like Charleton Heston gripping a gun. In the 'wallflower' one I'm pretty sure he's holding a champagne flute. He must have been three sheets to in order to get through that weekend.

Captcha: shive - Prison drama on the horizon for TH?

250 Name: Couch Potato : 2017-03-15 16:19 ID:Heaven

>>248 I think Anonon and I talked about it during CP promo and we thought it might be because ELLEUK's director was close friend with JA, so after Tahiti there might have been a fallen-out.

Whatever the reason though, I find it unprofessional on their side because they exploited him to get clicks and sell copies (remember when Annabel Brog wrote an article taking credit for introducing TH to Hank?) and then dropped him over something that was hardly personal for them. As present or former fans we commented out of disappointment, they did it in self-interest. (btw Lorraine Candy left ElleUK in Nov. 2016 to go work for Sunday Times and Annabel Brog left too in 2014 so that might also be a reason)

251 Name: Heynon : 2017-03-16 00:08 ID:ZlA/bjVC

Someone may be getting a little punch drunk from all the promo work: https://www.instagram.com/p/BRrLZEsgoDy/

252 Name: Anon. : 2017-03-16 00:57 ID:7BW+2tKM

>>251 That's the face he had when tweeting at 2am.

253 Name: Heynon : 2017-03-16 01:07 ID:ZlA/bjVC

>>252 (giggling madly) SO glad you didn't decamp to the Gackt board!

254 Name: Heynon : 2017-03-16 01:41 ID:ZlA/bjVC

>>241, >>245, >>246, >>249 Other previous drinking examples -- odd dancing and DJ'ing at last year's BAFTAs, and (my fave) his in absentia (or absinthe?) acceptance of Elle's Man of the Year award: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Px4Xq6UDYLc

I suspect that drinking less might also have to do with (as he's said) he "can't just go out for a drink" anymore now that he's much better known.

But I agree that he must have needed all the booze he could get to survive Taymerica. There was also a story about him sneaking away with the other guys at some point for some beers. (And he did have a death grip on that huge wine glass!)

255 Name: Whatsinaname : 2017-03-16 04:07 ID:Efyef8Wk

>>245 Here he is signing autographs, taking pictures with fans in Tokyo. This is a good wide shot, and I was considering how much weight he's lost compared to mid-2014 when filming CP (the height of his weight was probably during Coriolanus at the end of 2013):

https://mobile.twitter.
com/9quew/status/841951525387792385

Thoughts?

256 Name: Sosorry : 2017-03-16 07:40 ID:BhrzIqQY

>>245>>254 Tom still seems to be a social drinker. Tom drank multiple cocktails at that lunch with TS in Nashville, and he drinks quite a bit at wrap parties, and he looked like he'd had quite a few drinks when he was spinning that reporter on the dance floor and DJing after that awards ceremony. In general, we don't see pics of Daniel Craig, or Hugh Laurie, or Jude Law out and about, so I don't think that fans are so wild about Tom that he can't grab a pint at a pub. Although people would notice if he were to go out partying and if he got way out of control. The pics we see of Tom in his neighborhood are prearranged pap walks. I actually think that Tom strategically lets fans take pics with him when he's in a promotional groove, as a sort of fame management tool (although he does value his fans.) And of course, Tom had to take a big step back from overexposure because of the summer antics.
>>255 Tom seems to feel better about his physique when he is lean from running. Does he just feel capable when runs as much as possible? Does looking slim make him feel younger, like when he was in Suburban Shootout? I have no idea. Catherine Deneuve famously said that as you mature, you have to choose between your fanny and your face, because being too slim for your frame makes you look drawn/older in photos.Tom looked good in CP, and post the TNM slim down for Loki. Seems a little narrow in the face, now.

257 Name: Anon : 2017-03-16 08:02 ID:JdqnTY+R

>>255 I think he has lost quite a lot of weight over the years. The publicity photos for The Deep Blue Sea at San Sebastián show how much he has lost round the bum. In this pic you can see how much rounder his face is as well: http://www1.pictures.zimbio.com/gi/Tom+Hiddleston+59th+San+Sebastian+Film+Festival+af0KUnTg7DPl.jpg

He then lost a lot of weight for OLLA and at that time he started to really show the cheekbones. Since then he has put it back on at times and lost a lot more at times (ISTL) but he has never permanently gone back to the size he was in the pic I posted. He looks positively chunky in the CP publicity stills (where he is standing in the hallway wearing a navy coat) compared to how he looks now - and he was by no means big then.

258 Name: Whatsinaname : 2017-03-16 09:38 ID:Efyef8Wk

>>256 >>257 I just realized - could it also be that since he's signed with Gucci for the moment, he needs to stay slim for the way their suits are cut?

I do see what you mean, Anon, about being rounder in his face re: that pic. The running has gotten rid of the facial baby fat. The CP publicity still were coming off of Coriolanus and he was relatively huge back then.

259 Name: Couch Potato : 2017-03-16 09:50 ID:Heaven

>>249 haha I doubt those are his lips, but I think those are his 43 years old pecs.

>>249 Maybe last summer did such a number on him that it changed his drinking habits.

>>251 it was probably confusion at Gackt's invitation to visit the Golden Gai.

261 Name: Couch Potato : 2017-03-16 17:24 ID:Heaven

Kong, Beijing press conference video. It seems the host asked them to repeat dancing moves they performed in the past.
http://m.miaopai.com/show/channerWbH5/1034:4332881e7209d125829b44f8663441a4

262 Name: Heynon : 2017-03-17 01:44 ID:ZlA/bjVC

>>255 - >>258 He seems particularly thin at the moment (I'm trying to relocate some of the "candid" standing shots of him in knit top and jeans from the LA press junket - his waist looks tiny in those). Could be for Gucci, though since his suits from them are custom-made, they should be able to adjust for any slight variations in his weight. I'm guessing it's more from lots and lots of running (which I think is his stress relief), plus not currently working on a role for which he needs to bulk up.

The pressing question - is he currently at his Loki weight (for the rumored IW filming soon)?

263 Name: Anon : 2017-03-17 12:11 ID:pXOPIXDe

>>262 I remember those pics. In some of them he looked waffer thin (to quote Mr Creosote).

264 Name: Couch Potato : 2017-03-17 13:23 ID:Heaven

>>262 But when he was in OZ for Thor3 he was bulkier (unless all that gym was stress relief too), so does he even have a Loki weight?

266 Name: Sosorry : 2017-03-17 16:39 ID:BhrzIqQY

>>265 IW promo? Will Gossipcop deny? Chris Evans and Olsen kept getting asked if they were a couple during Civil War promo, and instead of just saying no, or Evans saying that he was with Jenny Slade, they just kept teasing each other. I think it's that sizzle and steak theory, where if you want the audience to buy the steak/film, you have to get them to believe in the sizzle/chemistry b/twn the leads. Or maybe Tom is just distancing himself further from this summer? But no one believed that the crazy kinds weren't promoting ISTL when they had dinner in front of the press corps at the Wolseley in London, and then let the press run stories about them till the film got no oscar buzz at festivals, and then they finally killed the relationship talk. No more more games! Please, more talk of good scripts! Cumberbatch is playing the lead in the miniseries of one of Tom's favorite books, the Patrick Melrose novels, on Showtime, gosh darnit!

267 Name: huh : 2017-03-17 16:44 ID:ubU0yG40

>>265,266 It's radar online, so it's probably complete made up click bait BS, like all the other "Tom dumped Elizabeth Olsen for Taylor!" and "Tom is texting his ex Lizzie behind Taylor's back!" stories from the summer. Isn't Olsen "dating" Jeremy Renner now anyway? They've got a movie together coming out soon.

268 Name: Couch Potato : 2017-03-17 16:56 ID:Heaven

>>265 Ha! This is mediocre even by the mediocre standards of gossip websites. I find the chance of that, if that was ever a thing, happening as likely as TH going back to TS.

Besides, if one has to build a narrative about that, we already posted something here http://4-ch.net/tv/kareha.pl/1475085154/335,336 and here http://4-ch.net/tv/kareha.pl/1475085154/529

269 Name: Couch Potato : 2017-03-17 16:58 ID:Heaven

>>266 Nah, it's just good old-fashioned click-bait. Another publication today had an article about Scarlett and CE possibly starting a romance because allegedly they wanted to be seated together at an event. If Marvel is going to use that kind of publicity (provided this is the case) these two would make more sense since they'll surely appear in IW.

270 Name: Heynon : 2017-03-17 17:43 ID:CMLPKxOa

>>264 Not sure if there is a Loki weight/look, but he's said he does train specially for that role due to the heavy costumes and doing stunts. So perhaps next week isn't IW (or the Oz bulk was due to the Summer of Pasta and Take-Out).

>>265 Oh good grief. I think they're expecting a drought of hiddleston-clickbait, so they'll just make up some of their own.

271 Name: Couch Potato : 2017-03-17 18:16 ID:Heaven

As a side note, but not so much, Derek Walcott has died today.
He is the author of one of TH's favourite poem, Love After Love, TH did a reading of it for The Love Book.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z850LNbudlw

272 Name: Anon : 2017-03-17 19:25 ID:JdqnTY+R

>>271 Ah, that is very sad. One of the greats.

273 Name: Anon : 2017-03-17 22:59 ID:JdqnTY+R

274 Name: Sosorry : 2017-03-17 23:52 ID:BhrzIqQY

Director GDT has posted all three sections of Sir Thomas Sharpe's bio on his twitter account. Deliciously dark.

RealGDT is his twitter.

275 Name: Sosorry : 2017-03-18 04:38 ID:BhrzIqQY

>>273 Tom's stylist, Ilaria, also just got a deal to design a women's line for Eddie Bauer. I guess all of the press for her clients in magazines/connections worked, whether or not we agree with it. I kind of miss the days when stylists were in he background, though. Although I loved the Gucci bumble bee bow tie, and the oxblood coloured suit Tom wore was interesting for the Tribeca film festival premiere, I really think that Tom's prior Armani duds and Ralph Lauren three piece suits (like Wimbledon 2015) suit his classic sense of style, the most. Ilaria's casual wear is interesting, like the Breton striped Cunicelli sweater and the new Isaia double breasted Pea Coat.

http://wwd.com/fashion-news/fashion-scoops/celebrity-stylist-ilaria-urbinati-designs-womens-capsule-eddie-bauer-10845997/

276 Name: Whatsinaname : 2017-03-18 05:47 ID:Efyef8Wk

>>275 I prefer the cut of Armani suits on his body, RL second. And you're right about the casual wear - it's brightened up his look. Now if she could convince him to get another pair of shoes besides the grey ones.

277 Name: Anonon : 2017-03-18 06:02 ID:wtpvrqmB

>>275 A perfect example of why yours truly only styles men- I wouldn't be caught dead in those clothes.
>>273 Oh dear

I missed most of that press tour but it must have been fairly uneventful compared to the usual. He schilled his summer romance harder than SI, I feel cheated.

Who here has seen the Monkey Movie- is it worth giving up some of the precious little spare time I have?

278 Name: Sosorry : 2017-03-18 06:46 ID:BhrzIqQY

>>277 Just saw the Monkey Movie last night, and my sister did last week, as well. The good news is that it's a fun ride while you're in the theater, but a week later you will forget the plot completely. There is an awesome helicopter sequence with Kong, and each time the team defeats a monster, a new monster pops up to for the teams to confront. It's kind of like an Indiana Jones movie where every time a new obstacle is conquered, there's a new problem to solve, and on, and on. But unlike Spielberg, Vogt Roberts has far too many soldiers for us to care about anyone at all. They each have 2 sentence back stories and no time us to explore them. Toby is empathetic, but the script is full of cut out banal cardboard characters, despite the fact that there are a lot of really talented actors in the project. John C Reilly does his best to be funny to bring something to the script. I like Tom a lot as an actor, and in general prefer Brits hands down to the young American actors. But I think that Tom's strength is his ability to use his Shakespearean verse speaking training to make flesh out of complex language on the page, and his ability to mine the poetry of the text to fuel his emotions. When there's just a silly script, Tom doesn't yet have those innate Harrison Ford leading man instincts with humour and irony to make an underwritten script believable. Hope Kong holds well with Beauty and Beast coming out.

279 Name: Couch Potato : 2017-03-18 08:08 ID:Heaven

>>273 Goodness.

You know, we mock here because as a group of people, I think, we don't have a tendency to idolize. And sarcasm is what allowed us to still be here with an interest for TH. But boy, this guy has a natural gift for associating himself with dubious people. He truly looks at people through pink coloured glasses.

280 Name: Couch Potato : 2017-03-18 13:01 ID:Heaven

>>273 Since I know next to nothing about Scientology, except being a stupid cult (like all cults) I googled a little bit.

Yours Truly is bad news, worse than I thought. She and her husband (and her mother!) are both chummy with Danny Masterson, she opened a shop with him some time ago called Confederacy.
http://articles.latimes.com/2008/sep/21/image/ig-confederacy21
http://champagneandheels.com/uncategorized/mick-rock-at-confederacy/
http://digital.modernluxury.com/article/The+Radar+People/93054/10070/article.html

It gets worse. Danny Masterson has just been charged with sexual assault (second of her client involved in something like that, she just has that keen eye)
http://variety.com/2017/film/news/danny-masterson-sexual-assault-allegations-lapd-scientology-1202001831/

Where is Luke when he is needed?

281 Name: Anon : 2017-03-18 13:21 ID:JdqnTY+R

>>280 Yes - that venture failed but she is still hand in glove with Masterson. According to the Celebitchy thread her mother is a lecturer at the Scientology "Celebrity centre" in LA. All rather ghastly.

Apparently there are a lot of Scientologists in the industry, especially in support professions - stylists, hairdressers, cinematographers etc. I can't imagine that TH would touch it with a bargepole, but it does explain the excessive thirst on her part. They suck in the more minor industry people by promising them access/success. If they achieve it, of course they attribute it to Scientology and not to the fact that it is just networking with a crazy cult overlay. So she has to peddle the "I am a Scientologist and look how I hang out with famous people" line, to show others how great it all is.

282 Name: Anon : 2017-03-18 13:28 ID:JdqnTY+R

>>281 Or would he? If they promised him the ultimate fame?

283 Name: Couch Potato : 2017-03-18 13:58 ID:Heaven

>>282 haha No, he is not the type.

But, Yours Truly isn't some random hairstylist or make-up artist the studio has employed for a film. She is his personal stylist, he chose her. Her link to Scientology and her closeness to a man charged with sexual assault is something that will reflect poorly on him, because these infos are easy enough to find. He really doesn't need any more bad press.

284 Name: huh : 2017-03-18 14:26 ID:aX/CeV2u

>>283 She also styles Chris Evans, Bradley Cooper, Rami Malek, Ryan Reynolds... She was a big Celeb Stylist before Tom ever hired her. It's a professional relationship, and there are a lot of Scientologists in Hollywood. He's not dating her and he's not her only client, so the press can't really single him out in any way for his association with her - if they even cared.

285 Name: Anon. : 2017-03-18 14:42 ID:6EcOAf2n

>>283 How many of us would have said the same about a fauxmance a year ago?

>>284 Professional relationships come under scrutiny just as much as personal ones these days. More so for TH as he now says his private life is off limits. And just like with Tayto he's opened the door for scrutiny of this professional relationship by appearing with Yours Truly in this article.

The press, if they cared, wouldn't 'single' him out. Instead they'd lump him in with the others you mentioned. Bad press is bad press, shared or not.

And welcome, huh. I think you're new. We're always glad when newbies decide to join the conversation.

286 Name: Couch Potato : 2017-03-18 14:54 ID:Heaven

>>284 Which is not what I wrote, but Anon.'s reply is better than the one I was going to post, so read hers.

>>285 I'm trying to stay positive here! Don't ruin my effort.

287 Name: Couch Potato : 2017-03-18 14:55 ID:Heaven

>>285 (I'm actually dreading the approaching of summer, it's a tricky season for him)

288 Name: Anon : 2017-03-18 14:56 ID:JdqnTY+R

>>285 I am watching with some amusement as the tumblr regulars, who ran to fawn over yours truly's amazing style choices (!) are now recalibration for their opinions. Shades of Tayto - at first the drivelling love for Taylor and the refusal to accept that she might be flawed in any respect, followed (mostly after they broke up) by the realisation that she was, perhaps, not a perfect example of feminism etc...

289 Name: Anon : 2017-03-18 14:58 ID:JdqnTY+R

I mean "recalibrating their". I have just tried to type this about 10 times but iPhone's autocorrect is very resistant to present participles.

290 Name: Anon. : 2017-03-18 15:00 ID:6EcOAf2n

>>279 Thank you, Coach. You've summarized a lot with this comment. Since I'm sure I won't use it as a parent - we've decided to be angry and stern parents :), I'll use it with TH. I'm not angry, TH, I'm just disappointed. His choices of late have been disappointing, especially in the people with whom he's chosen to associate: The American team, which led to TS ( yes, that's a professional association) and the stylist.

I don't care about TS or Yours Truly from a moral standpoint. We all have our failings. I care that they're both rubbish at their 'jobs.' His choice to associate with both has earned him some notice, a good few column inches, a few magazine covers, but I don't think either has benefited him in the way he wants: boosting his career prospects.

291 Name: Anon. : 2017-03-18 15:07 ID:6EcOAf2n

>>287 TH summers. Three years running, he's not let us down. BoraBoraGate, PurseGateGate, Tayto. What could he and the American team be cooking up?

292 Name: Couch Potato : 2017-03-18 15:25 ID:Heaven

>>288 They are nothing if not predictable in their behaviour and opinions.

>>290 Disappointment is so much more difficult to recover from than anger, better be angry at a child.

>>291 You forgot Wimbledon 2013.

293 Name: Heynon : 2017-03-18 15:44 ID:ZlA/bjVC

>>290 and above. I doubt Tom would succumb to Scientology. As someone (surprisingly smart for the venue) said in the CB comments, it tends to be celebrities with lower educational level, or people new to the business, who get roped in. (Neither Cruise nor Travolta graduated from high school, for example.)

That said, I think his rose-colored lenses also may make him too loyal to people once he's committed to them, even if the association isn't helping him. (Aside from the BF rumors, how else does one explain sticking with Luke for PR?)

294 Name: Heynon : 2017-03-18 15:46 ID:ZlA/bjVC

>>291 Oh, summer-gate could be fun to guess. I'll start. He launches his own fashion line, specializing in distressed casual/running clothing, and skin-tight suits in which the wearer cannot sit, only stand.

295 Name: Anon : 2017-03-18 16:30 ID:JdqnTY+R

>>290 I think with both TS and scientologist celebs, their moral/ethical standpoint is hard to dissociate from the professional image that they portray and therefore from their success and the success of those who associate with them.

TS can be a feminist or not, vote Republican or not - her choice. However when she assumes the mantle of feminism for financial gain, one is entitled I think to scrutinise the extent of her feminism, and in particular whether it is sending negative messages to her mostly tweety fans. I think one is also entitled to scrutinise her decision on the one hand to pursue teenagers who make and sell Taylor Swift memorabilia on Etsy, but on the other hand to take no action against alt right groups who use her image as an ideal of Aryan womanhood.

As for Scientology - it's a cult, and one about which there is a considerable amount of evidence of exploitative behaviour of many kinds (financial exploitation, abuse of minors, blackmail). Setting aside the question of whether one wants to support any celeb who chooses to align themselves with this organisation (I don't), association with Scientology has come to have an adverse effect on professional image.

TLDR: being a fake feminist/a scientologist/etc is arguably part of what makes these people crap at their jobs.

296 Name: Anon. : 2017-03-18 17:13 ID:5a2mJu/2

>>295 I can disassociate the two. Perhaps it stems from what I do. If you want me to analyze someone's professional life, without reference to their personal, I can. International relations is also a world in which the ends often justify less than admirable means; I tend to focus on outcomes. TS engages in fake relationships for the purpose of publicity. She's an unconsecrated communion wafer of a human being who is essentially nothing more than a PR construction. She does this in order to make money. The people who buy into that, or the parents of children who allow them to buy into that, are responsible for their own actions as much as she is for hers. I can put that questionable morality to the side while saying I can tell she's a bland wafer and that her relationships are fake - questionable morals and poor outcomes. (Yes, the two are probably connected but I can separate them for certain purposes.)

Scientology is totally a cult. That they are given tax exempt status is shameful. I half remember a story about Peaches Geldof and Scientology. She met a man in LA. They did some drugs, heroin maybe, and slept together. He woke up vomiting at the celeb Sc. center in a sauna and found her on an exercise bike outside in some sort of purification ceremony.

297 Name: Anon. : 2017-03-18 17:18 ID:5a2mJu/2

Now for more important matters: The Boat Race.

  1. Now that the teams are announced, Cambridge or Oxford?
  2. Will TH be in attendance?
  3. Will he be styled by Yours Truly for the event?
  4. Will he see Cam. behind, dive into the water, enter the Cam. boat and start rowing to win the race? It's what James Conrad would do!

298 Name: Anon. : 2017-03-18 17:22 ID:5a2mJu/2

>>280 Forgot to say that Luke is probably still embedded with Watson on her tour. And he's probably having fun with the supposed nudes of her that were leaked. Luke cannot catch a break with his high profile clients. I expect a pic of him at an airport bar with a HUGE drink and a FML expression to show on tumblr any day now.

299 Name: Heynon : 2017-03-18 20:45 ID:ZlA/bjVC

>>297 Or he'll redeem his poor surfing paddling by pushing Cam's boat from behind!

Pix on toririlla of his arrival at Heathrow today. He's actually smiling at the pap in most of them. It looked like he had fun in Bejing.

300 Name: Anon : 2017-03-18 20:57 ID:JdqnTY+R

>>299 I saw those. I thought he looked well and happy. He must have had a nice time.

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