Thread to talk about the actor...oh fuck it. You know what to do
>>398 It's interesting that he seems a bit touchy about the HR scene, given the nude scenes in OLLA and Deep Blue Sea. Perhaps between HR and TMN (and CP) he started to feel that the nudity was getting too much attention vs. focusing on the reason the character is naked. (His bum does seem to attract all the attention in interviews about those productions - Stephen Colbert in particular loves to discuss it!)
>>402 I figured he does, at least the slowed down one after Sienna's character drops the bottle onto his balcony, because of the touchiness during the interview of which you spoke.
>>400 I always wondered if he had more than a tinge of envy about the Much Ado movie Joss directed several years ago. I'd love to see him do either that or LLL with Branaugh in the future.
I'll have to watch CP again - I finally got it - and watch his facial expressions.
>>400,403 I forgot about one of the main glimpses - of course there is a lot of comedy in I Henry IV.
He would be delightful as Berowne.
I am torn about Much Ado because I saw one of the great productions at the National - Simon Russell Beale and Zoe Wanamaker. I really wasn't sure about that one - I thought they were both too old and SRB isn't exactly the "ideal" of Benedick. How wrong I was. Their age made it seem like they were two people who had spent their lives missing one another. And SRB truly is one of the finest comic actors there is, as well as being probably the best Shakespearean actor living. I am not sure TH could ever better that.
I can't work out whether he knows about all the HR gifs. His willy was all over twitter when the French trailer came out and everyone realised he wasn't wearing a pouch - and we know he checks his twitter tag.
But he has since said that in HR you don't see more than you would at a beach. Either he is going to nudist beaches on the sly (if so, where???) or he doesn't quite realise how much he showed. Or he is fibbing again.
He says he is happy with nudity - I think the truth is that now he is famous he is happy to be shirtless or flash the award winning bum, but not go full frontal. That is sensible in my view - and a rare instance of him having an off switch. I think he is right not to. He deserves some privacy and once you reveal all, what is there left? Little flashes are more tantalising anyway!
We were talking about weight loss and gain. I found this on my tumblr dash today - a series of Coriolanus gifs. In gifs 3 and 4 you can see he definitely had a bit of a tum and nowhere near the six pack definition he now has. I actually prefer it and carrying a bit of extra weight shows in the arm and chest muscles.
>>403, >>404 The moment in CP is short, but very nicely done.
Another small comic moment I love is in Miss Austen Regrets when his character is about to propose. Plumptree can't decide whether or not to kneel on the grass for his proposal, and in the meantime has to wrangle those long legs.
TH probably didn't miss much with Whedon's Much Ado - the cast mostly seems to be folks that Joss worked with on his TV series.
I'm also a bit conflicted about Much Ado because I have a favorite Benedick (though from long ago) - Sam Waterston! (See https://s3.amazonaws.com/tm-photos-production/108016.jpg ) And I can imagine SRB in that role, and agree that TH might not be able to top that. It's part of why I think Berowne could be a great role for him - there aren't any definitive performances of it that I know of.
Have to admit I didn't find TH all that funny in Henry IV Pt 1, but I've only watched it one, and also I find the character of Prince Hal more annoying than comic. Plus playing opposite SRB and Jeremy Irons showed that while TH is very, very good at Shakespeare, there's still room for him to grow with it. (Age and experience have their advantages!)
I know there's been some chatter that TH is in Atlanta filming possible Thor pickups with the cast but I can guarantee Thor himself was in Melbourne yesterday. My friend saw him in a cafe wearing a dubious pair of purple jeans and was very pleased that he checked out her rack.
>>408 I saw people on Tumblr saying Chris's trainer posted about going to Atlanta but I can't see anything on his Instagram about it. His Twitter hasn't been updated since Nov. So where are people seeing this? The Tom thing they got from another person's Tumblr and we're doubting it until Taika posted pics of himself in Atlanta.
>>409 The instagram pic from 1 day ago claims he's in Atlanta:
https://www.instagram.com/p/BSVVOEnFfsA/?taken-by=chris_elsa_hemsworth
>>410 Oh! I won't tell her she got the wrong Hemsworth, she'll be devastated. I cross paths with the Liam brother a fair bit. He does look similar in a better looking way.
I guess pickups/ reshoots for Thor are underway.
>>410 The location on the original poster says the Atlanta airport. So either he was arriving or leaving. If Anonon's friend saw him in Aus then he was probably arriving in the US then.
>>412 My friend posted she saw him just after midday yesterday. I don't think that's enough time to fly to Atlanta when Brisbane is closer than Melbourne.
It's illogical and highly unlikely she saw the real CH. Lucky she stopped herself from asking if she could hold his hammer.
Taika is definitely in Atlanta - I saw a set pic on IG. If Hemsworth and TH are also there it looks like they are shooting pickups. I saw reference to a tumblr based in Atlanta saying he had seen TH in the airport. Haven't seen the original post.
It would make sense of TH saying in recent interviews that his holiday was over - and to earlier slightly opaque comments that he had a full diary. As Anonon explained when we talked about KSI reshoots, pickups are arranged in advance for big projects, so he would know that this was coming up - have I understood what you said aright Anonon?
Taking shots at TH is still in season, unfortunately. The NY Post has an article allegedly confirming that Daniel Craig has signed up to do a final Bond movie.
"The source added, “Plus, Barbara Broccoli doesn’t like Tom Hiddleston, he’s a bit too smug and not tough enough to play James Bond.” "
http://pagesix.com/2017/04/03/daniel-craig-ready-for-more-007-after-slash-my-wrist-diss/
There are no other news reports of this signing, and the NY Post turned from respectable paper to a rag back in the 80s, so it's not to be trusted.
>>415, >>416 And the body of the article doesn't even say that Craig has committed, just that they're "close," unfortunately other rags/sites already picked up the slam to TH, including one headline of "Tom Hiddleston reportedly rejected as Bond for being too Tom Hiddleston." I really hope somebody signs for Bond soon so this pain point can go away. (And after seeing SI this weeekend, IMO Tom should not play Bond.)
>>417 Yes, review please! I can't get excited about paying full price for it.
>>418, >>419, >>420 My review - you did ask for detailed! In two parts, because it's too long for this field.
I’m surprised by how disappointed it left me. I was expecting good mindless entertainment, but found it only mindless. And it had the potential to be a lot better.
The trailers showed almost all of the big scenes, and some of the reviews spoiled most of the other surprises. I’m easily scared, and I only really jumped once.
The good parts: many of the set pieces with the monsters, some of the other creatures, beautiful scenery, nice cinematography at some points. Loving close-ups of early 70s tech – rotary phones, portable turntables. And the soundtrack (CCR, etc.)
The worst parts: the plot, the dialogue, and the pacing. The plot premise boiled down to “we have to get from one end of the island to the other in 3 days to catch our ride.” The dialogue was lame, especially the supposedly witty banter between Tom and Brie’s characters. (One line made me snort out loud, but it was so lousy that now I can’t remember it!) And letting the actors improvise wasn’t a good choice; they need to keep their day jobs when it comes to comic interactions…. The pacing was off, to me. Many scenes could have been much richer with just a little more time; and other scenes seemed to have had seconds snipped out that caused minor continuity gaps.
Missed potential: letting the characterizations build so the characters change during the story. To me, they all seemed either stuck where they were at the start of the story, or they changed suddenly for no reason. Sam Jackson was better than I expected, but JVR should have done something to let him turn into Ahab more slowly; as is, that happens almost at the beginning, so SLJ has nowhere to go. John Goodman’s character turns out to have a significant backstory, but we get no hint of the craziness/obsession that it should have caused in the man until he tells the story, and even then it’s mild. And maybe I missed it in between all the action scenes, but Tom/Conrad goes from cynical at the start to “let’s save Kong!” without any transition between the two states.
>>421 2nd part of my review:
So, Tom. I got the sense that the bar scene towards the start was added because otherwise, there was no clear reason for Conrad to be part of the expedition. There was nothing for the character to track, and no jungle survival skills shown that any of the other military characters couldn’t have shown too. But it really felt like many of Tom’s scenes were cut. He’s set up at the start to be a major character (including one Titantic-like shot on the ship to the island), but with what’s left, he’s at most a foil to SLJ and John C. Reilly’s characters.
And there must have been more of a relationship with Brie’s character originally. (When she’s coming to after an accident, he tells her “it’s me!” as if that were significant. A real jungle survivalist should have checked for vital signs and started doing CPR instead!)
Tom is OK in what was left of his character, but only OK. He looks great, of course, but has little more to do than stand and pose with his rifle, or walk or run with his rifle. The gas-mask samuri bit is pointless except as a cool visual – he’s not really protecting anyone or driving off the flying creatures. And he just doesn’t come off as alpha male enough to provide real conflict with either Sam Jackson or John Reilly’s characters. (I strongly suspect the reason the character is a Brit is that Tom couldn’t project the kind of overtly macho toughness that you’d see in an American Special Forces vet, for example.)
If it’s any consolation, Brie’s character is also pretty pointless except for the obligatory scenes with Kong. Pity, because much more also could have been done with her and the character’s POV as a questioning photographer. (I think some of the critics had to extrapolate pretty hard to find the themes they claimed to find in this.)
The best scene for Tom and Brie turned out to be the post-credits one. Tom got to show a little range, and one exchange was actually clever.
I’d say that at this point, unless a theater near you is still showing it in Imax or at least 3-D, don’t bother going unless you really, really like monster movies. (I saw it in regular 2-D and Kong and the monsters just weren’t all that impressive.) I probably will rent the DVD from my library just to see the deleted scenes, and to see if any of the extra features explain why JVR or the studio decided what they did. They certainly didn’t end up with a “kind of movie we loved as kids” like Raiders or Star Wars, which is what they apparently sold to Tom.
>>415 Wow. The dailymail has posted the Pagesix Bond article and the comments from readers about Tom are brutal. My my. I mentioned before that Bond producer BB was producing Craig off Broadway in Othello, and for that reason, Craig has been in bed with BB all this time. He was always going to return, and all the younger actors for Bond in the headlines was just PR to keep us involved with the franchise until they come up with a solid script and a release date, which I truly hope they do.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz/article-4381136/Daniel-Craig-poised-return-James-Bond.html
>>422 Thank you! Great review. It is kind of what I expected. Just goes to show that quality has little to do with box office.
As for Tom: I can't get over the fake beard in the trailer - and the fact that the "let me list all the ways you're going to die" line sounded so hackneyed, over-rehearsed and unconvincing. It sounds strained, not like his natural voice. I guess it had been filmed in Vietnam (hence the original pics of him sans beard) and then reshot in NYC. So it must have been rehearsed a LOT. If this is Tom at Peak Butch I can see why they didn't go for him as a replacement for Daniel Craig (though I do think there is room for another suave as opposed to thuggish Bond, but there you go).
I'm not sure whether to say; LOL, Ouch or Duh.
http://crazydaysandnights.net/2017/04/blind-items-revealed-5-676.html
>>425 I think I am going to go with "yawn." I am not that surprised that he might be defensive about it since it is raised during every single press junket some way or another.
Yes, he is privileged by his upbringing. Asking him about it won't make him give any better answer - journalists aren't very original in the questions they ask! He is also privileged by being unbelievably good looking. Plenty of people in Hollywood are and they use that privilege to achieve careers that they don't deserve through talent! Maybe they should ask him about his genetic privilege...!!!
>>424 When I first heard the "let me list" line in one of the trailers, it sounded fine. In the movie, though, it and his whole speech seem really rushed. And Conrad never really shows that much cynicism again. It's one of the bits that imply there was a lot more left on the cutting room floor (or that the character wasn't well thought out in the first place).
I agree that Tom would fit the suave Bond mold better than the thuggish one, but I still feel that he's missing something needed for the role. Brosnan and Moore had that natural cockiness for the role and Tom doesn't (when he tries to play cocky in interviews, it comes off as more camp, IMO). Which is why the "too smug" reaction attributed to the producer is rather funny.
He also doesn't really come off to me as dangerous in roles such as Conrad or Pine, and even the suave Bonds need to be dangerous at times - the character is a killer, after all. I think Bond needs a quality that automatically angers the villian, just through the force of Bond's personality.
Now, if the producer wanted to take the franchise and character in a different direction, Tom could be interesting in the role. But I can't believe Broccoli would choose that approach.
>>423 At least the DM refrained from what I fear would be the first set of photos if Tom were cast. Daniel Craig bare-chested and beefy in the ocean from Casino Royale, and TH tank-topped and pale in the ocean from Taymerica. Almost my first reaction to the T-shirt picture was "there goes any chance of Bond."
All the "who will be the next Bond?" PR also might have been partly to put some pressure on Craig to finalize the deal -- "look at all the guys we could get to replace you!" And it certainly helped flog the franchise while that got sorted.
Some UK supporters do not think he is smug, and still want TH for Bond in the future. The dream is still alive, I guess. I'm still a Daniel Craig girl. Way too soon to consider anyone else, for me.
There will be TH sightings this weekend. He's on a panel about TNM on Sunday afternoon: http://www.radiotimes.com.edgesuite.net/news/2017-04-05/tom-hiddleston-joins-the-bfi--radio-times-television-festival-line-up
As of my lunchtime, no news on if he'll be at the Olivier Awards just after that. But I believe Kenneth Branagh is receiving an award, and TH will probably attend even if he's not presenting.
Taken March 16th according to the comments, while on promo tour for K:SI, either going to or coming from Mexico City:
https://www.instagram.com/p/BSfeZVulYHd/
K:SI broke the $500M worldwide sales mark.
http://deadline.com/2017/04/kong-skull-island-crosses-500m-boosted-by-china-1202064019/
>>434 Just another day in TH's new life. Spotted walking in the park and stopping to check on a little girl who'd crashed her scooter. Someone else sees the tweets and chimes in with a Snake reference and disses him.
Captcha: fi
And here he is: com
Sorry, don't know what happened there: https://www.instagram.com/p/BSoakMfDFVk/
>>437 Apparently TH was with his agent, Christian Hoddell, on Primrose Hill. And Tom was heard talking about a noir thriller. Not sure if he was talking a book, a play, a new film script, or watching classic pictures on Turner Classic Movies : )
>>438 Tom was supposedly attached to 'Black Wings Has My Angel' years ago...maybe it's been dusted off. Would make such a great film.
Thor Rag trailer is online and trending all over the place. Tom looks so good.
>>441 Tumblr has gone into complete meltdown. He is does look so good, totally wasted peak hottness on Tayto.
TNM passed over for a lot of BAFTA nomn categories, including lead actor. Tom Hollander was nom'd. http://t.umblr.com/redirect?z=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.bbc.com%2Fnews%2Fentertainment-arts-39563454&t=YjI4YjJmNWJjNjZmM2ExNzU0ZDE2NzQ4Mzk0ZDYwMjIyOTM3Y2JmZCx1eUxhWmJYWQ%3D%3D&b=t%3AwtihBn2-rFBsXVQ3xZvuag&p=http%3A%2F%2Finsanely-smart.tumblr.com%2Fpost%2F159446289248%2Fbafta-tv-awards-tom-hiddleston-and-the-night&m=1
>>443 BBC news complete analysis for why TNM was shut out of the awards, except for the great performance by Tom Hollander. Everything from TNM's implausible plot and inconsistent reviews, to TH fatigue due to the TS PR relationship and the OTT GG "inelegant" acceptance speech, to the fact that the BAFTA has fewer category spots, to the push for diversity in the actors nominated for acting awards, to the public's penchant for period pieces over modern pieces, and the intl shooting locations instead of local UK shooting locations is considered. Not sure how I feel about this. Olivia Coleman was nominated by the BAFTA for her performance in Fleabag, but not for TNM. TNM was not a groundbreaking masterpiece by any means, but it was a deeply involving and gorgeously directed mystery thriller the captivated international audiences ( it was harder to reach US audiences on the cable AMC channel.) I love the book, but I really didn't connect to the new War and Peace adaptation, to say it mildly. This feels like a slight since TNM almost swept the GG awards, Hugh Laurie is so successful in the US due to House, and since the BAFTAs don't really seem to enjoy recognizing Tom. Remember when TH didn't even get nominated for playing Prince Hal in the Hollow Crown series? That was wild. Didn't think Tom deserved to win for the Hollow Crown, but his performance was the ballast of the show. Of course Cumberbatch was deservedly nominated for playing Richard III for Hollow Crown this year.
The new trailer for Thor looks wicked. I hope that the script is good and that the director Taika Waititi and CB rocked it. Loki always pops. TH has that character in command and the public loves Loki.
>>443>>444 http://www.bbc.com/news/entertainment-arts-39564174
Sorry for the long post!
>>444 I am slightly over British awards shows after the Harry Potter plays (aka, another attempt to wring cash out of a franchise that everyone thought was finished) won more Oliviers than any other theatrical production. Ever.
PS no need to apologise for long post! x
>>441 It is a great trailer. I actually really want to see this, especially for Jeff Goldblum at Def Con Eyeliner.
Not so sure about the new Loki hair though. It looks a bit - curly mullet....!
Slightly creepy stolen pic from a fan of TH heading home from a run in London yesterday, wearing a brand new running hoodie/jacket.
https://www.instagram.com/p/BSvF99HDIbp/?taken-by=tomhiddleston_daily
>>444 I think the BBC article was just continuing their sniping at Tom, rather than that the BAFTA voters would pass over Laurie and Coleman (and the series) just because he's in it too. (I suspect it was a combination of some of the other reasons the BBC article suggested.) It was nice to see that, so far at least, not too many other outfits jumped to harp on the snub to TH; I was seeing more surprise at all the different snubs. May go to show that TV really is where a lot of the best work is now happening.
>>447 "DefCon Eyeliner" and "curly mullet" - lol! I can't wait to see the craziness that is Goldblum encounter Loki's snark. The mullet-like locks could be deliberate; there's been a lot of mention of the movie's "retro 80s" look (for example, the logo: http://www.digitalspy.com/movies/thor/news/a820386/thor-ragnarok-logo-retro/ ).
>>448 Agreed. Much prefer the little stories of encounters without pix (such as the woman who ran into him twice in one day and was proud that the 2nd time, she managed not to exclaim "Holy fuck!" to his face. Or one from yesterday in which someone, behind him in line for coffee, was checking out his ass before realizing that it "was Tom Hiddleston's ass!").
>>447, >>449 Meant to mention that I didn't really notice Loki's hair - I was paying far too much attention to how the new helmet emphasizes those cheekbones....
>>450 The new outfit appears to be devoid of the infamous modesty flap that covered the Hiddlebulge in Avengers and TTDW! I have now seen enough outtakes of Thor to see that his crotch was indeed reduced in post production to make it look less obtrusive in the final cut In the outtakes it is so comically large that it looks like he has socks down there. Taika doesn't appear to have a problem with this!!
TH: I've had a rough summer. Can I show off my bulge?
TW: Okay, fine.
>>455 Compare his outfit in the first Thor to the second film. In the first, behind the scenes photos show a prominent bulge, which was flattened post-production via CGI for the final edit. In the second, his outfit was redesigned to hide his groin; this was confirmed by one of the wardrobe designers.
Second - https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/originals/f2/73/22/f27322048540eef2aef476c0959a24bb.gif
This third movie, the outfit seems redesigned again, no flap. Giving the fans what they want, I suppose.
>>456 Imagine being the digital artist who had to come in day after day to retouch Tom's crotch. Wonder how you'd go about putting that on your resume?
>>453>>454 Thanks. So remember last year when I joked about the crazy Russian giving Syrian Hitler chemical weapons? Yeah, it was a bit of a joke around the office too, mostly people telling me that Assad had gotten rid of his weapons, would never use them, the Russians would never support their use, etc. Recent events meant my paper was dusted off and my maternity leave interrupted. I've been answering lots of questions from men in uniform in not NYC while trying not to yell 'I told you so' at the top of my lungs - all with an infant in tow. Thank Jesus, I got to come home for Holy Week.
I could really use some TH fuckery to lighten the mood. On the upside, I'm not the North Korean expert in the office! I'm going to go eat my body weight in chocolate and maybe try to score some Lithium.
Happy Easter everyone!
Happy Easter, everyone! 🐰🐣
>>459 It is so good to hear from you again - I love the idea of you telling defence bigwigs how it is while Junior glares at them from your arms.
I see from the papers that mercifully the new N Korean missile did a Wily Coyote style Acme bomb fail and exploded shortly after being launched.
TH has been rather quiet in your absence save for a brief trip to Atlanta, probably to shoot pickups. Now laying low. There is a rumour circulating on tumblr that he is involved in a project about Robert the Bruce, starting shooting in September. No announcement from his people, but apparently a subscription-only production site is showing activity for a movie now called Outlaw King. This rumour has been circulating for a looooong time, since about 2014 - I recall we posted about a DM article saying he would play RTB in a project which was then called Lion Rampant.
And he is back chez mama this weekend. Arrived late Friday night or yesterday.
I think it's more solid than a rumor at this point; it's listed on IMDBPro as "Outlaw King" with his name attached and filming in Scotland to begin in September or October, I forget which. I'm crossing fingers and toes they take him back to his The Hollow Crown/Henry V hair and beard.
>>461 Yes please to his Henriad hair and beard. In chain mail for the battle scenes, he looks like a knight from a medieval tomb come to life.
>>460 Far less impressive. Baby was in the hotel room with my MIL - the only person I could get to come as babysitter on short notice. It was me and my supervisor facing questions we couldnt answer, which was on me since it was a shitty paper. My whole argument was he did it once, he will likely do it again, and he values power more than human life - those people are happy to use chemical weapons. The kicker was we were slapped on the wrist for not Erin Brockovitching it enough by pressing the paper further up in govt channels. Not the best few days of my professional life. Probably karma for me criticizing TH so much!
TL; DR I really needed a dirty beer, as we say in humitarian circles.
>>461 Am I alone in fearing another case of accent overload? Scottish instead of Southern, which is better, but trotted out for every interview. It will be good as it really is a return to his wheelhouse.
>>463 Sounds like a classic case of Orwellian doublethink: we ignored what you told us so it is your fault for not telling us repeatedly!
What interests me most about the project is that the reports about it back in 2015 seem to have been accurate. Another case of my theory that many stories have that grain of truth. It is not as if there have been loads of "shot in the dark" stories over the last couple of years about projects - just this one and the dreaded Richard II (maybe that is true as well - or maybe James Ivory met TH at a party and he said "oh that sounds nice" and JI has been fantasising about casting him ever since).
Something nobody has mentioned yet: kilts!
I am worried about the accent now. The Scottish accent he did in that ghastly BTS GQ vid was not good.....
>>464 I think this project was in the leaked Sony emails. I can't remember the circumstances though but it's been in the pipeline for a while. Don't forget about Bond, although I think that shot came from him and his people.
Oh those chicken calves of his! Mini kilts to get some thigh in there?
Sorry to plant the seed! I think it is a project suited to him. However, the actor who played RTB in Braveheart really captured my idea of the man: dark, brooding, a little shaggy. Maybe worlds away from the real man, but the stuff of my imagination.
>>465 I hadn't forgotten Bond - I was thinking more in terms of him being rumoured to be attached to a specific project as opposed to generically to a role (Hard Boiled is another, though sine that comes from Ben Wheatley I think we can say that is not really a rumour).
The legs in a kilt - not so good, unless the wind blows. It is true what they say.
>>466 Windy Scottish Highlands - don't fail us!
>>426 Speaking of being unbelievably good looking, you'll want to click on these:
http://kurtiswarienko.com/ARCHIVE/Tom-Hiddleston/thumbs
I forgot to add: Click on the Sam L. Jackson archive on the left sidebar; there are pictures of him, Brie and Tom. Looking over the rest of the archive, this photographer really did an excellent job with everyone.
Speaking at the Cambridge Union this term. https://www.varsity.co.uk/news/12725
I think this is notable because he has been very little (if at all) in evidence at his college or at Cambridge since he became famous. He has done a lot more for RADA over the years.
Time on his hands?
Also seen by the paps carrying 2 coffees and 2 bags of food back to his home (on Good Friday, I think). Pics on Torrilla. A lot of speculation on tumblr about who that second coffee was for.
>>471, >>472 The Varsity article says that he'll be speaking about his work with UNICEF, so it may be a combo of giving back to Cambridge and having an opportunity to discuss his other charitable work (and maybe the documentary). Of course, the other announcement I saw about this had to throw in a TS reference.
In other news, it sounds as though Ben Wheatley is still working on the Hard Boiled script. So I'm guessing it won't be until next year that that project really starts for Tom. http://lrmonline.com/news/exclusive-ben-wheatley-on-his-hard-boiled-adaptation
It was Good Friday so the second cup was for Jesus.
I am now hoping he doesn't have a showmance with Jesus this summer.
Speaking of... Gossip Cop is debunking an 'article' from Celeb Dirty Laundry (who? what?) which says that TH is still pining after TS.
'The unfounded allegation comes from the repeatedly discredited Celeb Dirty Laundry, which claims the actor is still “carrying a torch for his former flame.” Without any proof or information from sources, the often disproven site purports, “In [Hiddleston’s] most recent GQ interview, the actor gushed about his former girlfriend.” “Many thought” the actor was still “pining” for Swift,” adds the outlet with absolutely zero evidence to back up its speculation.
Let Gossip Cop set the record straight. A source close to Hiddleston assures us the entire report is “baseless” and “not true.” The actor had a great time dating Swift, but he is not “still in love” with the singer. While Hiddleston spoke kindly of Swift in his GQ interview, describing her as an “incredible” and “amazing” woman, it does not mean he’s “pining” for his ex.'
What did he expect after that article?!? I joked up above about a Jesus showmance but I hope this isn't the run up to Summer of Fuckery '17. Why even both denying an article from a publication no one has ever heard of? There's clearing the air and then there's laying the ground work. I can't tell which one this is. My mommy sense is tingling but that could just be because the WHCD and the Met are coming up. Shudders.
>>476 If I compare it to 2016, then most likely laying down the groundwork. He banged the drum a lot about being single and not being with EO before the Met gala. Then the Met shenanigans happened and BAM! Summer of 2016 blinded everyone.
I wouldn't be surprised if he walks out with a new summer girlfriend. Who may or may not end up pregnant and engaged to him before the year is up. He could follow in his dear friend Benedict's footsteps. Or maybe I'm just being cynical because of last summer.
>>476>>477 No no. It's such a funny story, because the crazy Hiddleswift followers who refuse to let the dream of the former fake romance die, assumed that the Easter Weekend pics of Tom carrying 2 cups of coffee meant that one of the coffees was for TS, and that they were headed up to Suffolk to visit his family b/c TS is pregnant with his baby! I am not joking. Apparently there was a charter jet that flew from Nashville to London and the Swifties track those flights for evidence of their alleged relationship. This is ridiculous b/c not only is the fauxmance long over, but TS has her own planes when she wants to travel. Anyway, a Tom tumblr blog so quickly got fed up with the rumours that she personally contacted gossip cop, and Tom's people immediately debunked the story w/in a handful of hours. No idea about what is coming this summer (hopefully Wimbledon) but Tom's worker bees seem to be determined to disassociate Tom from last summers' madness. Thank goodness.
>>478>>477>>476 So sorry. Forgot to say that the crazy Swiftie Hiddleswift rumors started the rumors that TS was with Tom Easter weekend and specifically that the GQ article meant that he was definitely still in love with her, the Celebrity Dirty Laundry website picked up on the HS shipper hysteria and wrote an article about their conspiracy about a reunion, the Tom blog reported the BS to Gossip Cop, and Team Tom quickly debunked the rumors before morning. Can't wait for Ben Wheatley's Hardboiled film, with Tom. I'm definitely going to see his last film, Free Fire, this weekend. I hope the reviews are wrong.
>>476 In their article, GC mentions that a couple of their "debunks" (my quotation marks) last summer were of Celebrity Dirty Laundry TayTo articles. Maybe that site is a hot button for Tom's team - at least something finally woke them up!
>>476, >>477, >>478 Suspect Sosorry is right that this is more about continuing to kill the dead horse as publicly as possible, rather than a set up for a new gf this summer, they jumped on it so quickly. At least I hope so - because I really doubt that either he or his team is ready to avoid all the potential landmines of going public with a new romance. A showmance with Jesus might be preferable.
Latest Torilla pix are Exhibit A of why TH would need to work on his kilt legs .
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>>481 Terrible skinny legs; great sporran-area definition. And this was on a bloody cold day in London.
>>482 Maybe he's toughening up for fall and winter outdoor shoots in Scotland?
>>484 Well, that would stink for Tom; even if he didn't want the role, the gossip sites will treat it as a slap. The new casting hasn't been officially announced yet, though. So at least we can think about kilts for a wee bit longer.
Tumblr meltdown. Amazingly Clever has finally admitted that not having any projects announced for this length of time is Not Normal. That this may mean that TH has been adversely affected by the Summer of Tayto.
>>486 hahaha! She really thought his career wasn't going to take a hit after that terrible summer? She better rethink that "producer" part in her Tumblr bio because she does not posses any producer instincts. Anyone could see whatever momentum Tom had after TNM, the snake charmer role dashed it all. He might take some more hits after she comes out with new music.
He's going to struggle for a bit and still being with Marvel won't help with getting dates for any projects he does land.
>>487 Another example of having fallen from the Hot list to the Mocked one. Some of the guys proposed for these bedtime stories get praised, but TH gets made fun of (though fairly gently). Doubt he'll be at the WHCD this year as the Guardian's guest....
Apparently the dapper older gentleman speaking with Tom in his running clothes in front of the cafe is Simon Cornwall, one of the sons of author John Le Carre. Simon and his brother Stephen were both producers of the Night Manager. It looks like TH and Simon just ran into each other spontaneously, or perhaps TNM sequel is really happening, whether there is a plausible an engaging continuing story, or not. Also, a Gossip Cop just had to deny that TH blames former faux belle TS for loss of the James Bond role, and again states he is not clamoring to get back together with her. My oh my.
http://m.weibo.cn/k/Tom%20Hiddleston?from=feed#&gid=1&pid=4
http://www.gossipcop.com/tom-hiddleston-blames-taylor-swift-losing-james-bond-role/
>>489 Simon Cornwell! My auto correct changed the name.
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>>489 Gossip Cop gave their denial a "1" rather than a "0." So does he blame her for losing Bond, but just a little bit? Wasn't in talks for Bond so blames her for losing other work? Or someone GC contacted forgot about the NDA for a minute?
Yay for career news! TH is speaking in June 2017 at the Cannes Festival of Creativity.
https://www.seecannes.com/news/hiddleston-and-mirren-at-cannes-lions-2017-707470?platform=hootsuite
>>484,486 Ruh roh. Has anyone informed the veranda? The rose tinted glasses had to fog up at some point. Of course Fuckery '16 was going to affect his career. The Pollyannas were mad to think that it wouldn't. We sensible lot never suggested that he would never work in Hollywood again. All we said was there would be repercussions - maybe small, maybe large but something.
>>491 That 1 is odd. Remember they gave the article about TS paying for everything a 1 because she paid for the jet fuel but TH picked up the tab for the swan pastries or his medicinal t-shirt? Maybe a 1 because TH doesn't blame her directly but the relationship in general. Of course the only one to blame is....
>>493 This actually makes me worry. I wouldn't class this as career news strictly. It's not scraping the barrel's bottom, the line-up is wonderful. But this seems like a networking thing, an attempt to meet people as a career move. Surely what he'd want to be doing is filming something, not talking about how creative he is. Do we think this is a paid gig? Is the Cambridge union paid? My gut tells me 'yes' to both.
>>493 Also note the descriptors: Oscar winning actress, multi-Grammy award-winning, Academy award-winning, actress and entrepreneur. TH gets 'heart-throb actor.'
Are we not mentioning the Oldengay Obeglay because of the circumstances which followed?
>>494>>495 I am in favor of any new conversation that is not about personal life rumors : ) I'm having an idea. Tom seems to idealize his coworker from High Rise and the Hollow Crown Series, Jeremy Irons. Irons worked with a series of phenomenal international directors in smaller art house films. With Louis Malle in the deliciously twisted Damage film based on the Hart novel, and in the Schlondorff adaptation of the Proust novel Remembrance of Things Past, the french period piece Swann in Love, where a wealthy intellectual falls in love with his courtesan lover to the detriment of his social standing in 1890s Paris. Does anyone else remember Irons as a diplomat in M. Butterfly, who accidentally falls in love with a Japanese performer who turns out to be a man? Anyway,I think Tom would be awesome working in a small french film with a costar like Isabelle Huppert in a film like Elle, or just working in any cohesive and innovative sexual thriller wih GB director, Adrian Lyne? I think TH has to find a well written script and a proven consistent director, and he has a much better chance of that with smaller projects, with a French or Danish director? Cannes networking could be great for this. Alternatively, he could try for a supporting role in a Wes Anderson film? Would love to see him in a comedy.
>>496 This would be great; it's a respectable career trajectory. You should probably be directing his career. Problem is this doesn't seem to be what he wants or what he can get. He's not busy emulating JI and working with IH. He's busy making monkey movies, voicing an animated caveman and fauxmancing with popstars.
I'm sure he can tun this around. How and when will be the interesting bits.
>>493, >>494 This could be really productive networking for him - there's an Entertainment sub-conference: https://www.canneslions.com/festival/lions-entertainment
And while it's not performing, I think he'll find it intellectually stimulating. (Plus, if he's given a talk rather than being interviewed, he'll get to work on his public speaking....) Agree that it probably is a paid gig, though likely at an honorarium level.
>>495 At least "heart-throb" is better than last summer's description of "tabloid headliner"! And they did use a picture of him holding up his GG in the photo carousel in the announcement (though that could be taken two ways).
What I hope that he gets out of this is that a bunch of branding and PR experts take him out and get just enough booze into him to make him receptive. Then they should drill into his head an understanding of branding (and what last summer's escapade did to his brand) and what strong PR representation looks like!
>>496, >>497 He should be so lucky as to have a JI kind of career! And I think Tom is well suited to be a leading man in those kinds of films. But I agree that may not be what he wants at this point, especially since his last few indies weren't well reviewed (even if his performances were).
Hard to tell if he could get those kind of top-notch indie directors and scripts right now, at least without having to fight for them. My gut says that those are the kinds of people who may want to wait another year or so for the Tayto images to fade. On the other hand, he seems to be very good at forming relationships with directors quickly during casting discussions, so he might be able to get someone to take a chance on him that way.
Does anyone else have the feeling that he tends to take whatever bright, shiny project comes his way rather than being more strategic about his career? (Or perhaps I should say realistic, since he might think he's being strategic in going for a supposed lead in an action movie, without thinking it through enough to remember than no one really remembers the actors who were in a monster movie.) I think "ooh, bright shiny" might explain taking Early Man - though no disrespect to Aardman intended! Or he just needed to work on something fun to cheer himself up after his disastrous summer.
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It's all most odd isn't it? I believe that the Cambridge gig is not paid - or not more than minimally (in terms of free travel etc). Appearing at the Oxford or Cambridge Union is a big deal and you are meant to do it for the honour, because it means you have arrived as a sleb/intellectual/politician. The Union couldn't possibly afford to have paid half the people I saw when I was a student - Stephen Fry, Seamus Heaney, Ian McKellen etc.
I totally agree that attending Cannes to talk about anything other than an actual project looks like networking - and/or an attempt to keep his name "out there."
As for whether he is strategic - I think he thinks he is. But as with many things in TH's career, he overthinks it and tries to be too clever by half. Appearing desperate or overkeen or overambitious isn't a huge turn on in many professions. Trying to be a bit more relaxed gets you more gigs. Works in my line of business too.
I also think he has the tin ear for projects that many stars have - if the idea is good, they think that their genius will make a star project out of a stinker script. Never happens. Or rarely - KSI has performed well (still haven't seen it) without anything like a good script from what I hear.
