Thread to talk about the actor...oh fuck it. You know what to do
PS though - he was spotted in Durham in the last couple of days and it has been strongly rumoured that filming of a Large Project is taking place in Durham Cathedral. (i.e. Marvel). For once the insanely clever one might be onto something - she suggested that there may be another "is Loki dead?" cliffhanger at the end of TR. Hence if he is in IW he has to keep it super secret or the cliffhanger will be spoiled. She did then ruin it by saying he couldn't possibly have made it to Durham on the day he was seen (he was seen at the theatre in London only the evening before) as it was a 6h drive! This slightly forgets the fact that Durham is less than 3h by train from London.
>>500 Re: Cannes - unless there's a surprise announcement about an upcoming project, about which they may be waiting until closer to June, I agree with Anon that it's networking.
And it doesn't look as obvious at something more serious like a talk, compared to showing up at a bunch of movie openings that he's not involved in (which he did in 2010/11), or at a bunch events. Whoopi Goldberg once said she went through a particularly thirsty period between The Color Purple and Ghost where she would "show up at the opening of an envelope" to keep her name out there.
>>501 I saw the tweet from someone saying he was in Durham but there was no photo evidence. How do we know for sure? I'm not saying I don't want to see him in the movie, just wondering if it was verified. Since they're filming in multiple cities, the tweet may be a decoy and he may secretly be at the Atlanta location instead.
>>500 KSI did not have anything like a good script; some of the dialogue made me laugh for the wrong reasons! But a giant monkey smashing helicopters obviously made up for that in terms of box office.
>>501, >>502 No pix of him in Durham that I've seen, at least. A lot of "oh, the rumor is..." tweets. And I think it was the insanely clever one who questioned why he'd be in Durham already when the rest of the cast isn't due there until next week.
I hope Marvel doesn't pull another "is Loki dead?" They've already used his supposed death twice. If they keep it up, Tom could just keep playing Loki into old age - "He's Back!" version 42....
Yeah, the Cambridge gig probably isn't paid, beyond travel and such. I was thinking it was like a commencement address, but it's not. Perhaps another side to this and the Cannes event is an attempt to grab back a little seriousness from the blackhole of Tayto.
>>503 Yes to the no more 'dead' Loki cliffhanger. Besides Crazy Intelligent has proven one thing: she doesn't know her ass from her elbow. The Marvel spoilers posted earlier said that Loki would be in IW as an ally. If those are correct, maybe that will show up at the end of Thor III.
Anyone else hoping that he has to film with EO? TH must have some WTF questions for her. Not only did she happily stroll with her new man but she's posting often on IG! He would be forgiven for thinking it was about a year or so too late!
EO's attitude is interesting - she was completely open about her fiancé and happy to be photographed with him, and she is open about this new guy. Yet in the middle.....
I personally think it is because she had overlap, or because TH was her rebound guy. Most people wouldn't wish to shout it from the rooftops that they ended their engagement after cheating, or that having done so they hopped into the sack with someone else within weeks. The relationship having lasted longer than filming it appears that someone (and now we know who) wanted to take advantage of it for publicity....
>>501 Tom was spotted north of London on the A1in Grantham/UK on twitter sophie_allen13 on twitter. Perhaps on his way to Durham for IW, but no one knows.
>>504>>505 I have no idea what happened b/twn EO and TH on the set of ISTL (I wasn't under the bed and they're both young and attractive people) but those G&W pics and date night were all staged for PR. Tom only goes to G&W when he wants to be papped. Period. He's always "found" there. And EO has always been media mindful with her PR Au Bon Pain, farmers market, and staged gym pics. EO just hasn't done social media till recently b/c despite being in the Godzilla and Avengers franchises, EO doesn't get consistent big dramatic roles like JLaw, Rooney Mara, or Emily Blunt. Brie L somehow broke out through her indie work. TH was never spotted with a woman the whole 5 months he filmed TNM abroad, at any time. And we know that EO was vacationing with girlfriends in Hawaii b/c her gal pals posted to Instagram. I think that TH assumed that people would automatically believe the TS stunt b/c the only thing his PR team did to build the Loki/Scarlett Witch narrative previously was post two days of pics with EO, and leak rumours to the paps for months till ISTL underperformed at the film festivals.
Well, I buggered that right up, didn't I?
>>509 Hahah. The board is temperamental sometimes. It's happened to all of us.
>>508 At the time so many thought it was just more cringey Korea type dancing. A few here who knew TS's track record and glimpsed TH's thirst were suspicious. Anonon I think was one. This board can pull out its crystal ball from time to time!
In hindsight a comment on Dlisted described one of his dance moves as looking like he was digging a grave for his career. Were his dance moves prophetic?
So to celebrate Tayto Contract Day, here's a question: hindsight is 20/20; given what he knows now, would TH refuse the offer or still say yes but do it differently?
>>508 You know that swifties are praying this will happen. She'll send the jet and they'll make their triumphant return to couplehood.
Interesting conundrum! I actually think/hope/believe/am still deluded enough to believe that he would say no. His vast publicity team didn't exactly manage the situation - and who could? I don't think any publicist could have predicted how badly that pairing would turn out, how instantly everyone would shout "fake" - it never happened wth any of her previous beards. Thus nobody could have contained it once it started down its preordained path. So doing it differently wasn't an option, I think.
I also think "doing it differently" isn't in the Taylor lexicon, or the point of a fake relationship. If a celebrity couple fall over in a forest and nobody sees them, does it make a noise? (Or something!!) My point is that there is no point in doing a fauxmance subtly. You have to get the pics out there. Not least because subtlety drags the whole process out for months longer, which any tolerably normal person would decline.
Would TH do it again assuming it could not have been executed better and ended the same way? I guess not. He can't possibly think this has improved his career or personal life - can he?!
Allegedly was at a wedding in Lincolnshire. Not sure what to make of this one:
com/not_imaginative/status/858983404456603648
You would go up the A1 to get to Lincolnshire. But you would also go up the A1 to get to (or home from, assuming the previous sighting was right) Durham.
>>510, >>512 That is an interesting question! And the underlying questions are - did he really learn anything from the experience, and if so what and how much?
I'm thinking that he'd say no, because I agree with Anon that there's not much he could do to do it differently. He and his team were just so completely over-matched by her and hers. Even the bits he might have controlled (not including his family in the beach pap strolls, removing the tank-top-of-doom) couldn't have prevented her from shutting down the show once she'd gotten what she needed from it.
Unless he has a cast-iron ego, and I doubt that, the outcome cannot have improved his personal life. His integrity was questioned, he was humiliatingly thrown under the bus by a 26-year old (and by only 'sources,' at that - she's yet to say a word about him directly). The questions and paps keep coming, and will pick back up in intensity at the end of this year during T:R publicity. And if he or his team paid attention to the recent Jake G. and Harry S. interviews, they should know that last summer could come back to haunt Tom at any time.
Career effects, we can't know. But even if the publicity had gotten him Bond, for example - in the long term, how would he have felt about having gotten the role that way rather than having earned it based on his talent (if he were honest with himself)?
>>515 Another thing to think of: if the timing of her next album coincides with T:R, especially if it's released before the movie, it'll be worse for him, even if she finally says something complimentary about him.
>>516 I was thinking about the likely overlap of T:R publicity and the album release. There's also supposed to be a (presumably unauthorized) biography of him coming out in the fall; it's listed on Amazon. Let's hope that Marvel is very careful about where and to whom they send him.
>>511 Did anyone else see that Gucci dressed tennis ace Prince Roger Federer in a tuxedo with a giant beaded Cobra Snake on the back for the Met Ball this year?! Not sure if I can imagine TH in this tuxedo, so I'm glad that Tom is relaxing in the UK.
http://tennisnerd.net/news/federer-met-gala-cobra-suit-from-gucci/5479
>>510>>512 Great hypothetical question! I think Tom would choose to do the dance off at the Met Ball with TS, only. Karlie's video of the two dancing went round the world, and since TS had a faux relationship with CH at the time, Tom would been able to quickly reap the PR benefits of Swift world with a woman who was perceived to be out of play, and then he could have extricated himself from additional speculation by minding his own business. Funny analysis of the lessons we have all learned from the PR stunt, which are given to commemorate the anniversary of faux HS.
http://theberry.com/2017/05/02/its-been-one-year-since-hiddleswift-was-unleashed-upon-us-lr/?utm_source=twitter&utm_source=Direct
>>517 Biography - whaaaa?! Link, please?
>>518 I didn't see it until now. I can' t imagine Th with it either.
>>510 >>512 >>519 I think #4 of the article is the key. A lot of people realize how driven he is, but since most of us don't deal with him day to day, we don't realize how intense he is.
So I'm going with - yes, he might want to do it again and hope for a better outcome using what he learned about her, but he WON'T because he's too ambitious to shoot himself in the foot twice.
Right?
>>521 Oh that's weird. I know it's unofficial but even then I don't think he's achieved enough to warrant a biography. I don't think he's even done one singular thing of significance yet that's had some magnitude effect impact on the world (dating TS and wearing the tank that was heard around the world doesn't count) to justify a biography. He's not even 40 yet lol What is up with this biography business? confused
>>516 She won't ever say anything about him, complimentary or not. She lets her songs do the commenting. He'll be answering questions about her until he goes in the grave; she just drops an album.
Agree with >>520. I think he'd do it again. He has that tin ear Anon spoke about and the actor's curse of thinking he can save any project with his talent. I fear he's somewhere saying to himself that it would be fine if he didn't do the family stroll and the t-shirt. He's just crazy enough for that. Shame and regret will keep him from Tayto 2.
>>520 Hahaha. This looks like an e-book special released as a paperback - which is a thing in this modern publishing world. In theory I could spend the rest of my maternity leave writing a TH bio and have it 'published' via Amazon. (Slinks off toward laptop....)
Here's the bio of the book writer:
Sarah Marshall is a writer and journalist who has worked across a variety of celebrity and entertainment magazines including Mizz, Cosmogirl, Bliss, CD-UK and It's Hot! She was editor of a pre-teen title before moving to the BBC magazines Star and Top of the Pops, for which she interviewed many high-profile stars including Justin Timberlake, Britney Spears, Jennifer Ellison and Craig David. Alongside her celebrity writing, Sarah also works for a number of specialist music publications and occasionally contributes to the Evening Standard. Her recent publications include upmarket travel books on Berlin and Lisbon for the Hedonist Guide 2 series. Sarah lives in London.
Is this the same person on Twitter? @SarahMarshall
>>524 Going by her tweets, it doesn't seem like she's the same Sarah. This one seems more into politics and the tech world. Also, she's not following Tom either (to be fair it's over 2000 ppl I could've missed his name). At a glance, I don't feel like it's her. This one also writes for Vogue International and Conde-Nast International. I don't see someone like doing unauthorized celebrity biographies. Unless it's a secret passion project for her lol
>>522 I think what's up with the bio is that it was announced after the Summer o' Love, and what "justifies" it is that he became a Tabloid Headliner.
>>523 Oh you should write the bio! It would be so much better, especially since the "official" author wrote one on Daniel Craig, "Britain's Best Actor" (according to its cover). One Amazon review said about that: "I'm not sure if the author actually interviewed Craig for this biography. I get the feeling most, if not all of it was taken from filmed interviews that he did for others. Also, much seems to come from tabloid sources. ... Lots of enthusiasm, explaintion [sic] points and open admiration for Craig on the part of the author." So at best it may be a blown-up GQ article, and at not best a glorified fanzine.
This may indicate what to expect - the photo of him on the cover is reversed! (Notice that the left eyebrow is the one that's slightly raised, and that the nose is slanting to the right.) https://images-na.ssl-images-amazon.com/images/I/61JoZKi9TsL.jpg
Video link of Tom back in London, running at the speed of light, up Primrose Hill
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https://www.instagram.com/p/BTynve0hsla/
And a pic of TH running, as well.
https://www.instagram.com/p/BTy-lDYDsB3/?taken-by=tomhiddleston_daily
TH is no longer on the speakers' list for Cannes 2017, I think. Maybe notice of a new project will come? Or is it just the result of more IW filming?
https://www.canneslions.com/festival/2017-speakers#/
There were two reported sightings of the Greater Hiddlesbird last Thursday in the vicinity of Durham Cathedral (site of some IW filming). Unfortunately, neither observer provided photographs nor noted any identifying field marks, although one observer stated that he saw the Hiddlesbird from only a few meters away, and it was flying with a Blond Hemsworth, Dark Ruffalo, and Beauteous Tessa. The Records Committee is taking these sightings under advisement.
On Twitter: /Ionaislegendary/status/860187846291988486
https://www.facebook.com/cameron.j.boyle.7/posts/10154330071592441?pnref=story
>>529 I'm guessing, given that he was announced so recently as a speaker, that it's due to IW filming schedule changes. I'd think that a new project could work around a short previous commitment that he'd already made.
An official video from the BFI - Radio Times Festival session on TNM is up: https://youtu.be/ezCexMPQJ8Q
Haven't watched it yet, but they must have cut quite a bit, because it's under 18 minutes.
This board is as dead as TH's eyes when staring across a dinner table at TS! I thought I was going to have to read through loads.
>>526 Good news is I've completed the first chapters of my TH bio (not really). Like the Amazon one, it will be written without me ever meeting TH. I saw him on a stage about 50 feet away - that's good enough for an in-depth bio.
I've decided to make it a bio that also has parenting (don't send your child to boarding school) and PR advice (don't engage in fauxmances). I want to hit all the demographics.
>>530 Is this IW filming or more Thor? Have other IW actors been spotted? The Greater Hiddlesbird is known by its more familiar name the Hiddle Tit.
>>532 Again with his recitation of the book's opening lines - boring and a tiny bit pretentious. We know you can memorize words, TH. AP with his quips about doing the role for the clothes and the loo roll airplane steals the interview like HL stole the Times Talk I saw.
>>533 I am sorry we are dull. No gossip and no real sightings except in London. So who knows if it is IW or what it is being filmed in Durham.
I couldn't watch the BFI stuff. John le Carre is a poisionous old coot who thinks he is a literary and acting genius and is neither. He wrote some quite good spy novels and acted badly in one cameo in TNM. Big woop. I cannot listen to them licking up for hours. I just can't.
>>533 Did he actually stare across a dinner table at her? I thought he was too busy checking his phone!
Oh but you must write the bio! Or we could make it a group project....
Other actors were rumored for the Durham filming but not confirmed. I'm guessing it was IW, not Thor, because the Russo Brothers were photographed and briefly interviewed there. Of course, it alternatively could have been for the post-credits scene for T:R.
I'm laughing too hard at the Hiddle Tit to come up with a good rejoinder. Stay tuned.
The only gossip I've spotted is that the TS album PR is kicking into gear. Alas, that also means the appearance of the earliest of what doubtless will be many, many, many articles mentioning TH as a likely song subject.
Tom was just seen in London at a swish bank, Coutts. Looking forward to a summer full of Wimbledon pics of Tom, and a summer-less TS. Apparently the Ben Wheatley/Amy Jump script for Tom of Frank Miller's Hard-Boiled graphic novel could take a long time. At least till after Ben does his next movie, maybe much much longer. Fine...
https://www.instagram.com/p/BT_i-urjD7r/
http://lrmonline.com/news/exclusive-ben-wheatley-on-his-hard-boiled-adaptation
Apparently last night's Sat. Night Live had a TH sketch during dress rehearsal that wasn't used in the live show. Details from Reddit, but also several tweets reporting it too.
"Tom Hiddleston Prom I liked this one a lot. Aidy Bryant and Vanessa Bayer are at their high school prom, talking about the A-list celebrities who they asked to prom and turned them down. McCarthy tells them that she asked Tom Hiddleston to prom, and he accepted. Then Hiddleston (McKinnon) came out and, despite insisting that he hated the attention that came with being famous, took over the dance floor, first performing a really bad rendition of Man in the Mirror before showing off his abs and turning his Prom King acceptance speech into a speech about the situation in South Sudan." https://www.reddit.com/r/LiveFromNewYork/comments/6b1pyq/melissa_mccarthyhaim_dress_rehearsal_recap/
A couple of the Twitter mentions:
Tom Hollander won Best Supporting Actor BAFTA TV award for his role in TNM, which was the show's only nomination! Well done Corky! Hiddleston was seen watching Hollander last month in April, starring in Stoppard's play, Travesties. Will they start dropping more hints about the possible TNM 2, do you think? And also below, an article bemoaning the lack of nominations for crowd pleasing shows on BBC 1 like TNM and Poldark. Loved the orignal, but I'm not a Poldark reboot fan, myself. FYI, The Crown was shut out.
http://deadline.com/2017/05/banta-tv-award-winners-happy-valley-the-crown-the-night-manager-tom-hollander-1202092915/
http://www.radiotimes.com/news/2017-05-14/can-someone--anyone--please-explain-why-the-tv-baftas-snubbed-these-bbc-dramas
>>536 Is he stopping his direct deposit to Olly? Or to whomever suggested Tayto. Or allowed him to do Tayto. The only people I knew in London who banked at Coutts were the second son of a duke and one of the Spencer-Churchills. I wouldn't have thought TH would be their usual type of customer.
>>537 Ouch. He'll need to put the I heart TS shirt back on to protect that burn. I'll leave the unnecessary outrage to the fans in the veranda. Instead: sow and reap. He's opened the door to ridicule; he should not be surprised when it shows up on the welcome mat. I still feel bad for him. It's not nice to be mocked by SNL. It's really not nice being so irrelevant that your mocking skit gets cut.
>>538 I think THol alone received all As from me during the original airing of TNM. If he was in a scene, it was his scene.
I liked the first season of Poldark. Haven't seen the second - I'm surviving just fine!
No! You know meeeeee!!! I bank at Coutts. So do (or did) lots of barristers and City folk, before Handelsbank got sexy. They wish I wasn't a customer now. Current aspirational customer base is £3m liquid (not me).
>>536 >>539 Maybe the bulk of his trust fund payout resides there. Or the account for his two production companies. I don't think Olly's been employed since January, when one tumblr reported that he seemed to have moved permanently to Los Angeles after TH finished filming Thor. What I had been expecting was that LW and TH would part ways, but that doesn't seem to be the case.
>>537 >>539 Since it was a dress rehearsal it may have been recorded and show up online. SNL does that sometimes.
>>538 >>539 I thought THol was the most memorable character myself. And now none of the main cast was at BAFTATV for support. Makes me wonder if he was shunned by the cast! (Was Eurovision too important to miss? ;) )
The latter part of this article includes TH twice in a discussion of the two different paths actors can take, or try to balance, now - tentpole and indie/prestige. It's a little contradictory about Tom, first citing him as an example of the kind of career others could have if they found the "right Loki-style part." But then later they talk about him trying to find the balance between blockbuster and indie/prestige.
I think it's telling that while TH fives Tom Hanks as the example of the kind of career he'd like to have, Charlie H. says Daniel Day-Lewis.
http://www.vulture.com/2017/05/after-king-arthur-flops-what-does-charlie-hunnam-do-now.html
>>541 I would just mention that we discussed Olly's probable non employment a long time before tumblr latched on to it!
>>542 I think that Tom used to mention Daniel Day-Lewis as having a career that he was inspired by and that he wanted to emulate when he was younger. But Tom has of late, flipped to Hanks. Over the last couple of years as he's continuing to build his fan base in the US, TH has mentioned Hanks because Hanks's persona and his films although more safe, middle brow, and slightly bland than Day-Lewis' films, are very well respected and popular with American audiences. The Day-Lewis quote from 2013 is below.
Interesting. Neither DD-L nor Hanks went the indie film route the way TH has linked himself to Ben Wheatley.
TS officially has a brand new fake British boyfriend for her new album, whom she secretly visits in London wearing disguises, allegedly! No joke! No more silly TS conversations around Tom! Yay! Of course the article in The Sun drags Tom for wanting the their former relationship to be more public than TS was comfortable with. Back to conversations about TH, and his real life and career. Joy to the world.
>>545 Not sure how linked TH/Ben Wheatley are; in that interview linked above that mentions Hardboiled, Wheatley doesn't even mention working with Tom again. That said, Tom did 3 films with Joanna Hogg early in his career.
>>546 A new UNICEF Canada video with TH was posted yesterday (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xh1K360tfnk), but of course that's being drowned out by TS's "news."
>>546 And interestingly enough, apparently the Sun's line about the relationship being too public was their second choice of digs. Originally it read "The former couple split after Taylor became increasingly aware Tom was exploiting her fame to boost his own profile and standing in Hollywood." (screencaps at http://insanely-smart.tumblr.com/post/160745434738/that-line-about-tom-using-her-to-boost-his-career)
I suspect the dragging isn't over yet - a few days while all the other rags pick this up, a retrospective comparison with the new Toy Boy at the July 4 bash, and then the album drop. But at least now Tom can say "She's moved on, I've moved on, so let's move on to a different question - about The Work."
Now if there could just be some project announcements.
>>546 You're so positive, Sosorry. I wish I could be. I don't think this will end the Tayto talk. It's just that he will now have more company on the liner notes of her new album. If JG is still getting asked some seven years later, TH can expect the same.
Her PR is playing a different game - they had to, the old one stopped working - so no huge picture reveal of the new boyfriend. I'm sure she's saving the first pics for a 'special occasion' (advantageous PR moment).
What are the Tayto shippers saying? Have they all jumped overboard off the USS Tayto?
>>542 Are we surprised that he's singing a new tune? He shifts with the winds. In his defense, he never said his love for DDL was 'sacred.'
>>548 Are we still blaming IW filming for the lack of new work? Is that still the story?
>>541 That's assuming LW was the evil genius responsible for Tayto. We don't know this for certain. I think we as a board were leaning more toward the new American team. All that time with LW and no fauxmances. Then only a few months after he signs with the Americans, it's Tayto time.
We can probably blame them for Yours Truly too. Ugh.
They are awful. They must be stopped. Given his decision-making skills, he probably signed with them for 10 years.
Also thoughts go out to our British members. It's all too heartbreaking for words.
Back to our distraction from the ugliness of real life.
>>549 He's been mentioned in almost every story so far about the new Boy. The Guardian was particularly harsh: https://www.theguardian.com/lifeandstyle/lostinshowbiz/2017/may/18/hiddleswift-warning-from-history-taylor-swift-beau-joe-alwyn . Also, some of the Tumblr bloggers think her PR's continuing to run the bus back over TH is to justify a "you done me wrong" song on the new album, and I bet they're on to something.
It's hard to tell from those blogs (I refuse to read the shipper ones) how the remnant Tayto shippers are handling the news, other than that they're still sniping at the Hiddles blogs.
The TH blogs are working hard trying to spin the lack of new work - as well as Marvel, "this has happened before," "many of Benedict's new projects are ones that he's producing himself," etc. But it feels to me as though his peers generally have at least one if not more future projects lined up; and one of the top Google results for Tom in the last week or so has been that Aussie article from KSI promo saying he was taking the year off, so that now may be the public perception. I suspect that he and his team dropped the ball and stopped hustling for work as hard as usual during the Summer o' Love Tour and its immediate aftermath, and that dried up his pipeline quite a bit.
There have been a couple mentions in conjunction with Joanna Hogg's new film that she and Tom are talking about future projects (example: "Tom Hiddleston has starred in Hogg’s previous three films but is not due to appear in The Souvenir, though the two are understood to be lining up future projects together." -- http://www.screendaily.com/news/martin-scorsese-robert-pattinson-joanna-hogg-team-on-the-souvenir/5118192.article )
>>550 At least one of the Tumblr blogs has said Tom fired his US PR team this fall - not sure how to fact-check that. Even it that's true, I don't think that means they were responsible for Tayto; it could just be that Tom thought they didn't do a good job of rescuing his reputation from it. But even if the PR team did propose a fauxmance, it's on him that he participated in what looked like one. As you said, his decision-making skills....
For a small blessing, at least Sat. Night Live hasn't posted the prom sketch that was cut from the live show.
>>549 I try to think positive thoughts! But I think I'm mainly just thrilled that baby TS fans have stopped tracking private jets from Nashville to London to prove that the fauxmance is still ongoing,a me that TS has been making jam and cake for Tom in the UK all this time! IMO, Tom should just work his little tail off and maintain a mature gentlemanly silence, and allow his theater projects and films to speak for him like J Gyllenhaal does. A future song about Tom can't be too mean-spirited, since the sad puppy article in GQ seemed to work to his advantage for the general public. And if TS keeps alluding to him a famewhore, he should just have team Luke leak from a "source" to the Uk media that (maybe OK magazine, for instance) that people should compare the totality of how privately and quietly Tom usually leads his life, with the exception of last summer, to how comfortable TS leads her public life, in general for a decade, including thiese new leaks to the public about a supposedly private relationship! And thus to suggest that Tom is overinterested in PR optics and tabloid coverage is illogical. Time to man up get a bit sneaky, Team Tom, then deny it came from your team : ) Also, when is Tom's next project? Not a golden globe awards fan, but doesn't that recognition give you a little more power in L.A.?
>>554 Not so sure about fall as a timeframe. Correct me if I'm wrong but isn't Beardy from the American mgt. team? He seemed to be doing PR stuff during and after Tayto, including the GGs, in January?
Also from what little I know about these mgt. companies (jack squat tbh), it's not just a matter of firing reps. There would be a contract in place, and they seem to be airtight in the interest of the companies - they don't like to lose their meal tickets.
>>556 But maybe that Tumblr has a Pro acct. (you just know they would) and has seen the details.
>>556, >>557, >>558 I don't have an IMDB Pro account either, so no luck there. But as of this January, he was still with his U.S. agency (WME) according to the announcement about their partnership with UNICEF: http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/news/wme-img-launches-philanthropic-partnership-unicef-963446 . I checked WME's site and if you dig down, he's still listed in their database of voiceover talent.
They are a major, major agency, so it's hard to think that he and they would part ways. (Here's an article from when he signed with them in 2011: http://deadline.com/2011/10/wme-signs-british-actor-tom-hiddleston-186249/ -- he left another big US agency to sign with them). If he was unhappy with them, I suspect they would change him to another agent with the firm.
I couldn't find any names for any US publicists for him, though.
>>555 As aggravating as it is to read about TS "sources" still dissing Tom, it seems to have died down after the first flurry of New Toy Boy articles. I think gentlemanly silence will stay the best approach even if she puts out some mean songs, because in a PR war of leaks with her team, his team would get squashed. It would be too easy to turn the "exception" he made of last summer vs. his usual privacy as evidence that he was indeed using her for fame.
At most, I think his team's response should be something like "he's so disappointed that Taylor feels this way. He... [insert standard ex-TS-BF contractual language here about how lovely it all was and she was]."
I don't know how much a GG award benefits an actor; nowhere near as much as an Oscar, certainly, but it should make him a little more bankable.
>>558 Beardy is from the American team, yes.
>>559 You're right, they would change agents before going through the legal process of breaking the contract.
>>560 I would think that winning the GG matters overseas, if only in a small way, for reviews. I don't know if it has any affect on foreign awards (BAFTA, etc.)
>>559 No he wouldn't part with WME. He probably feels like a bona fide star by signing with them. They are huge. Beardy was from the 'talent' mtg. team, i.e., PR without calling it PR.
The GGs are more an indication that the overseas press in Hollywood like him, or I thought that was how those worked. Don't think that parlays into anything like clout or bankability. I'll whisper this so the veranda doesn't hear: I don't think he has any pull in HW. on a scale of 1 to 10, he's at a 2-3. He got Thor as a lucky break, helped by his association with Sir Ken. That got him the Avengers part by default. OLLA and CP had other actors in those roles before him. Just not a lot of pull. His biggest roles, screen time wise, have been in tv productions for the BBC.
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Actual question from a mother group mom: what are you doing for baby's first Memorial Day?
My answer: nothing.
Her: shock and multiple memory rich suggestions.
Me: silent resentment accompanied by disinterested nods.
I'm convinced she has her child's first turd in a box in the freezer...or bronzed on the mantle.
Happy Memorial Day!
Tom isn't listed anymore on the speakers' list for the Cambridge Union either in this coming last week of April, or in May. Maybe he's scheduled to film in Atlanta for Avengers IW? Maybe he's just free as a bird.
>>563 Curious. Maybe something more personal is going on ; what, I have no clue. What was the original date he was set for?
Hello all. After a pretty crappy week in the U.K. electioneering was suspended for a time. I decided to suspend giving a shit about Tom Hiddleston. Unfortunately normal service has been resumed in political campaigning! Thanks to everyone for their kind thoughts about the UK.
The talk at the Union is in June. That may explain the confusion as the links seem to be for April May.
https://issuu.com/thecambridgeunion/docs/cambridge-union-easter-2017-termcar
On publicity generally: I doubt he has withdrawn from WME for all the reasons Anon. identified. Also, it is an actual talent agency like Hamilton Hodell, i.e. it is responsible for getting the work in. When there is no work it wouldn't be sensible to leave one's agency I'd have thought.
As to the PR side: it seems that WME must have had some input due to Beardy's omnipresence. But I heard last year rumours of "new" PR in the US which only did PR - as he has HH and Luke in the U.K. That would also make sense given that the rumour of new representation coincided with a real change in the PR style last year. Hence - suddenly - a stylist, Instagram (first cheesetheboard and then his), presenting country music awards, a showmance etc etc. If WME had all these bright ideas it took them a long time since they signed him to put those ideas into action.
So I reckon it was a new PR agency (identity opaque, perhaps designedly so) which came on the scene and has now been fired. Hopefully.
>>562 His first Memorial Day? What? How should an infant memorialize dead soldiers?
FWIW, I kept my son's umbilical cord stump. I can't find it right now but I know it's languishing in a box somewhere. Yes, it's weird.
>>567 Thank you! One of her suggestions was to dress him in flag themed clothes and take pictures. Dear Lord! I hardly dress him as it is. Diaper and onesie, lately a onesie without legs - that's it. And once it warms up, just a diaper.
Do we think mama Hiddleston kept TH's umbilical cord? Oh, wait, he's still attached to her by it. Nevermind!
>>568 Yanno, I have always wondered about the parental influence on his career and life in general. I've read enough speculation on tumblr about it, horoscopes and other armchair analyses, but I really want to know what the real drive is.
Leave the costumes until Halloween or something. We never dressed my son in any flag at any point in his life.
There's been a bit of flurry over these 2 photos, allegedly of Tom in Cannes getting off of a helicopter (with a mystery woman walking beside in the 2nd one). Too far away to be accurate, but who knows.
>>570 Looks more likely that it's Alexander Skarsgard and his girlfriend, based on some tumblr comments.
>>570 Grey shoes or it didn't happen! ;)
I wonder if he's required to keep a low profile now that Swift and her new contract are totally having their privacy violated by not at all summoned paps.
Calvin Harris didn't but then he did not go gently into that goodnight of Swift exes.
Did he show in Cannes? Is he going to show at Cambridge? What does the all knowing crazy one say? Because then we know to assume the opposite.
Could he actually be working, or trying to get work? Nah.
Happy Election Day to our British contingent! Eyes open, breathe deeply - it looks like freedom, it smells like liberty. Enjoy it.
And a word of warning for the fans. Barring a huge upset, the Conservatives look set to take this election, maybe with a significant majority. Since TH has declared Jeremy Corbyn's integrity to be impressive, he might take this badly. The last time an election didn't go his way (Brexit), he decided to blow off some steam and have fun with a summer 'romance.' Forewarned....
>>572 No other sightings in Cannes (and with all the paps, it's unlikely he'd be there unnoticed). Cambridge is still unknown. The various Tumblrs are assuming he's filming IW (an anon supposedly was told by a friend who's working on it, when she asked about TH/Loki, that "she won't be disappointed). No other good theories have been put forth.
>>573 From what U.S. media are reporting from exit polls and declared seats so far, there may have been an upset, or at least not a clear Conservative victory. Supposedly TH's going for "fun" last summer was also due to his being upset about the not-great receptions for CP, ISTL, and HR. This time round, he has the ongoing direct and indirect references in the media's "advice" articles to the new Faux Boy about how to handle a romance with TS. I kind of hope his fun this summer will be with his Marvel buddies.
Someone posted on FB earlier today that she encountered Tom in London, also today, so at least he's still among the living.
>>574 Maybe he came back to vote.
Some light reading. Make sure you swallow your drink first.
https://curious-observations.tumblr.com/post/161556411615/the-taylor-swift-pr-virus
>>574 I fear they will be disappointed! He'll be in it but he can't have much screen time given that nearly every Marvel character is set to feature.
I'm not in the office today but I bet our elections guy will be a zombie. He probably stayed up through the night. But TH may be celebrating...maybe. And it could mean no summer showmance, unless he goes for a different excuse: he was really upset about the hung Parliament and decided to have a bit of fun!
>>575 He wouldn't have needed to. I know some believe he's been filming during this time but I wonder if he's just been under the radar. We usually get sightings when he travels but he can virtually disappear when in his own neighborhood.
Ha! That pic of the new contract sitting alone, clutching a glass with a FML expression looks familiar. Wonder if TH sent him a club welcome packet?
>>574 Cannes turned out to be Skarsgard, Cambridge is still listed as 'to be announced.' Filming is the best educated guess, with Marvel keeping him under tight wraps so as not to ruin the plot, which is what All Knowing is betting. My guess - filming combined with a personal vacation.
>>576 Since The Snake has re-emerged in all her pettish glory, it's a great time for him to be a ghost. Based on the gossip reports that Toe/Jaylor have been dating for months, people are saying that TH knew about them when he did the emotional GQ interview.
Hey, it was 2014 this week or so that the pic of him and JA showed up on FB with the caption "Mr. & Mrs. Hiddleston." What a time that was. Based on that, it would not surprise me if he's off on vacation with someone new (or was until yesterday). It's smart for him to aggressively avoid the press right now.
>>577 Tom's easy ability to ghost really shows that the neighborhood pics where he wears his capsule dressing ensembles are completely planned for PR purposes when Tom needs attention just before, and just after an event. Glad that he wants to lead a drama-free lifestyle.
>>574>>575 Tom Sighting in London on election day link
https://m.facebook.com/leah.davies.7773/posts/10158805585555720?pnref=story&refsrc=http://t.umblr.com/&refid=9&_rdr#_=_
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>>577 It's definitely in his best interests if he stays completely off the radar for now. The Snake is being extra extra petty with her Katy feud and plus, when she unveiled her new romance, she started by slamming Tom even though they were equal partners in that mess. Then again I didn't expect any different from her pettiness.
Speaking of Tom potentially dating someone, I think he might be seeing someone and I think I know who but I'm scared to share my findings on here because of the crazies who read this board. I mean there is a chance that I'm over analyzing and I could be completely wrong but maybe I'm not. I just wish there was a way of messaging each other privately or something. I don't know how to drop hints that only we can figure out.
>>579 Ouch. No one on this board is at all crazy IMO, just intrigued by Tom's career. We leave the craziness outside this realm. I would love some new filming project info, or news of a new appearance in a play. Someone guessed that maybe Tom was holding back career news b/c of the slew of TS articles, but he doesn't have the power to stop production companies from announcing projects. I've stopped trying to figure out Tom's personal life b/c it seems so odd to me. Susannah F was incorrectly rumored to be his wife, she popped up for some PR premiere pics, then she sent a harsh twitter post when they supposedly split. Weird. Then the casual JA banagins and shenanigans of Wimbledon, Sherlock, and Bora Bora gate. Then the EO PR games for ISTL, then the TS fauxmance for American PR boost for the Emmys and GG awards which were accompanied by fallacious James Bond rumours clearly from his camp. A lot of the alleged TS bfs have complicated love histories, and that's a whole other story. People always ship Tom with brainy/gorgeous artists like Hayley Atwell and Emma Watson, but he's known them forever and just he just seems to have a warm rapport with most people he meets.
Jessica Chastain is getting married this weekend in Italy, but Tom doesn't seem to be on the guest list with A. Hathaway and A Pacino. Pics of Tom and his other hero from Heat, Al Pacino, would have rocked!
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz/article-4590650/Anne-Hathaway-attends-Jessica-Chastain-s-Italian-wedding.html
>>580 Congrats to Jessica though I always figured she'd get married and then casually drop the info in some interview months later lol
I didn't mean us that post on here. This board used to be pretty well hidden but recently it's been getting it's fair share of crazies from the TH fandom that quietly read what we say and some of the lesser known TH stuff or TH related things we've figured out first on here, it ends up on Tumblr with the anons acting like they found the info first or figured it all out by themselves. Hence, me not wanting to outright post what I saw because if I'm wrong I don't wanna cause the crazies to lose it and stalk the girl. Oh well it'll all come out anyways if he's dating her or not.
>>579 There are people who lurk, but there was one who posted during the EO era.
Hey, I found this list by doing a google search on 'beanup' after hearing so much about her on tumblr.
>>580 JA - Sherlock shenanigans?? I don't understand, or I don't remember. Please elaborate.
Re; Susannah F - never read anything about why they broke up.
I read the DM article.I do not doubt that Tom was invited, since they're really good friends. I don't think anything would keep him away from the wedding except illness, work commitments, or prior plans that he cannot alter.
That said, I don't think the DM article would cover the full depth of the guest list so it's possible he is there but neither seen nor mentioned.
>>581 I was surprised to hear she was marrying, since I'd read a few months ago that she and Gian Carlo broke up. Maybe that was planted to keep people from snooping their wedding plans.
Gian Luca, I meant. And congrats to him and Jessica.
>>579 Yeah we don't have a private chat room, so unless you want to give up BI-style hints, we'll just have to wait until pics surface. If he's brought her to the wedding, we may find out sooner that expected.
>>579 If you don't want to say who it is, maybe a hint of how you figured it out?
>>582 About the SF breakup: I read (but cannot re-find for the life of me) an interview from just before he was going off to film something (the Henriad, I think). In it he said that they'd broken up because he was very focused on his career at the moment and "didn't have time for a proper girlfriend." (Which I think is odd phrasing - it might have been nicer to say "I don't have time to be a proper boyfriend.")
I agree, congrats to Jessica and her new husband. But I think it's kind of a shame (though smart) that she didn't want to be involved with another actor, because she and Tom seem to get on so well!
Probably it is good that he's so off the radar right now with all the latest TS nonsense. But a project announcement soon might be helpful - the "Did TH damage his brand?" and "Why TH is taking off 2017" articles have reappeared in the top Google results for him.
>>583>>584 It was through his new FB cover. The lady I'm guessing he's with seems to have a similar cover photo on her private profile but looks like a higher angle. I could be completely wrong and it might not be the same area pics at all but they looked similar to me. Then again after all that's happened I don't think Tom would use a pic on his public page that his current gf is also using but who knows. He's not super savvy in that regards. Like I said I could be over thinking it.
>>585 I saw that but it was on the infamous townbike. Did she start and perpetuate the rumor that he brought others to distract her from being his date? Or was she repeating what others were saying? Full disclosure I haven't posted on here in a while so I don't know whether you guys discussed that already or not and I can't remember if we had discussed his Empire list of guests when the awards show had happened.
>>587 After what happened with Jane when he followed her on twitter I don't think he would make his cover photo match a girlfriend, but I also would have thought he knew better than to do what he did last summer, so idk...
>>586 It was odd. Tom did an interview in 2012 while he was dating SF and they simply asked him if he had a girlfriend in the Independant, and he replied "err, I dunno know, actually" he wasn't sure. Weird. Then SF had to clarify that she wasn't married (to Tom), and a friend, tweeted back to her "thank f-ing God" and SF replied, "yeah." Whatever happened at the end of their romance must have been a bit muddy and sloppy. Then SF liked a tweet that ridiculed the HS fauuxmance on her twitter in the middle of the craziness last summer. Burn.
>>587 Yep, we discussed all of the Empire Awards guests. But the Swifties started to track Louise O'Shea b/c the DM suggested that TH had replaced TS with a new lookalike blonde. And the Swifties were determined to prove that TS and Tom had been secretly dating all last year, and lying to the press about it. Delusional gals. I think someone said that Louise is already engaged, though.
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/people/profiles/soldier-of-fortune-tom-hiddleston-is-set-to-become-2012s-hottest-new-star-6284844.html
Tom spotted doing a pap walk at a London cafe, carrying a coffee and a small takeout bag. Wearing an hw embroidered ISTL baseball cap, and a goatee. I guess Tom and JC aren't close enough off of the set for him to attend the Italy wedding.
New pics up from Torrilla, the usual walking with coffee. Like clockwork, over analyzing by Tumblr fans would have him sickly. He just looks like his normal, serious resting bitch face self.
>>590 This confirms something else I read, that his family is very traditional, so maybe they considered it tacky to have an ex-boyfriend/close male friend attend.
It could also be that he is feeling under the weather.
>>593 It's got to be Lex. She is the only one who comes on here and pretends to be someone else.
>>589 Damn, I missed that train. Oh well.
>>590 Is it just me or does he look like he's either recovering from being sick or having the worst hangover of his life?
I never got the vibe that Tom and Jessica were close friends. They just seemed like coworkers who jived well and were selling a movie. Her rapport with celebs who are her friends is different. I wasn't really expecting Tom at her wedding tbh.
>>594 I should change my name to WhatisReal or something.
>>590 and Fake Whatsinaname in >>592 may have a point. Even though JC and TH seem thick as thieves at the CP promo tour photo ops and interviews, and there's the cozy pic of JC, TH and GIan at a CP cast party, it doesn't mean he was invited. And I know of at least 2 weddings personally where an ex-bf or opposite sex close friend of the bride or groom was not invited (hashtag petty)
>>595 He does look sick or recovering from being sick, especially since he's dressed for fall and someone said it was 25C in London today. Fever chills, plus no body fat.
>>596 Wait, why do people think Tom and Jessica are exes? Was it mentioned somewhere or were dots connected? I know DM and some gossip rags printed a few years ago that Tom and Jessica were dating but Jessica immediately rubbished them and came out publicly with Gian soon after that.
>>598 Yes, the rags still do assert that story, and it comes up every now and again when they're pictured together. No dots connected at all.
