Thread to talk about the actor Tom Hiddleston
She was drinking at the Selena Golez concert and also in the lunch pap pics in Nashville. I don't think it's pregnancy. This is screaming showmance to me now.
Wow. At least they're not holding hands in any of the shots : ) Only slightly weird how TS is not quite smiling in the pics. Will Taylor stay with Tom in Australia for all of Thor 3 shooting, or will she head back to the US? They're making quite a play for "dream couple" and pushing back all of the Kanye video chatter. Could this still be over by July? Or is it more of a 6-9 month thing? If they are able to convince people of their feelings, could public opinion flip to their favour?
Gomez* jeez typos and me today
This is totally like Bennifer 1.0 but on steroids. BUT it's also classic Taylor. That girl is always so extreme and so ott with relationships and boyfriends.
I just keep waiting for the LOKI'd or something. Not because he can't be in a legit relationship, but it just seems so weird. Everything is being played out in front of the cameras without any attempt to hide, or have a quiet night etc. But they've proven they can indeed pop off the radar when they want.
So there is a desire to have it all out there, but why? This is like a car crash, I can't look away.
>>105 Haha I wish. If this is some big elaborate prank, it's not funny anymore. I'm finding the entire thing rather annoying. They're everywhere - you just can't get away from it! Tabloids, serious news, social media... no place is safe from the epic shitshow that is Hiddleswift. Or Swiddles. Or ToTay, or TayTo, or whatever stupid cutesy name they've latched onto at that moment.
I'm going to continue being nasty about this until it ends, and probably for some time after. I hope you're all okay with that. If not, just let me know and I'll leave again. ;)
I'm afraid what is happening is that TH was always a phony. Go Kayne!
>>85 I'm glad we can finally say there's no real feelings here, only PR thirst, of the lowest level.
>>89 anonsy! I can't even be angry anymore, it's such a disappointment that I only feel dislike. Paparazzi don't just happen in that area, or in a small airport or in a small town. This was all announced in advance. And hi smother! The poor woman maybe even had to put on a brave face because there were cameras.
>>91 Did you notice the five (five! does she think someone will kidnap her?) bodyguards SUV behind the jaguar? So ridiculous.
>>100,101 yes, the drinking wouldn't be advisable, but there are women that do anyway, and we can't tell if it was alcohol or not.
>>106 I'm new here, but I live for the nasty because I'm just sitting here with a giant neon billboard of question marks above my head. At least the nasty gives humor to it all.
Also, this is one seriously long first date. They haven't been apart long enough for it to be feasibly considered a second date yet. From hello to cohabitation, they're living in a fishbowl on purpose.
>>107 I know. His mother. That's where I draw the line.
(P.S. my captcha is "sin")
I just woke up. We had a night out and I have a hangover. I thought I felt bad but now I have just been sick in my mouth a bit.
What is going on, people? When I said I would look out for her gigantic security detail I was joking. She doesn't need security in Aldeburgh. Yes, the Aldeburgh Festival is on but the average age of festival goers is about 75. No joke. (American peeps - it is a music festival for composers Taylor would of course recognise, like Benjamin "Yeezy" Britten).
I really, genuinely, thought they would take his car and drive to Aldeburgh and try to be on the down low. I was expecting maybe a blurry fan shot from a local kid. There is no doubt at all that these pics are staged. Quite apart from the posing (walking three abreast with arms around each other - so natural) they can't have been taken later than late afternoon because of the light. That means they were being taken almost simultaneously with the tweets saying he was in Essex emerging. Aldeburgh is a 1h drive from Ipswich and a 2.5h drive from central London so for someone to get there in time these pics have to have been a set up. Tom Hiddleston just used his mother for a pap stroll. I really am disappointed now.
>>106 be as nasty as you want anonsy, get it out of your system :)
>>110 According to the Daily Mail they didn't even take his car, it was rented at the airport - which I find extremely hilarious for some reason. In my mind, Tom gave a speech something like this: "I will fake kiss you on a beach. I will eat a swan pastry. I will go to a Selena Gomez concert. I will allow you to meet my mother. But I will not. I repeat, NOT. let you ride in my Jag. Some things have to be kept sacred."
>>106 Say what you want, baybee. I am all aboard the bitch train now. Toot toot!
ps anyhow the rule here has only ever been - no snark to each other. Snark about Tom's bad life choices is A-OK!
>>106 Carry on, I'll be chirping in. In fact seems we are on on the same scathing cynical page.
What I can't comprehend is the sheer stupidity of fans on both sides lapping this up. Have they never dated and truly fallen in love?
Knowing that every step you take outside will be documented by the world what horny couple on heat would ever deliberately do so.
Then take into consideration their combined wealth and lack of commitments, their daily pap strolls are inexplicable. STAY INDOORS AND COPULATE if that is what you do (I am having some doubts).
PS Anyone notice Olly picks him up from the airport and they hug
>>114 I saw Olly (poor thing), that's why I thought it was TH's jaguar.
Ok now that Tom has put it all out there for us to see, I did something I have always previously had too much self-respect, and respect for his privacy, to do. I looked up on 192.com where his mother's house is. It is not on the main street. It is on a quiet side street. On street view you can see that it has a high wall and a gated drive (you can see the height of their or neighbours' walls in the pics). Tom and Taylor and the whole shebang could have driven in those gates and no pap would have been able to photograph the meeting. Also because under English law you have a right not to be photographed in your own garden even if visible from the road - though the walls are 5 foot high so it wouldn't be.
>>115 It certainly wouldn't be the first time the Daily Mail was wrong about something.
>>116 So they invite their own crew of paparazzi to Tom's mother's house, then they get her to come out into the street for the stupidest most awkwardly staged-looking three-headed monster photograph ever. With matching sunglasses and smiles!
>>116,119 Poor woman, strange he didn't pull his sisters into this mess.
>>119 If you look at DM's photo 14 of 25 those big ass walls on the right of the pic are the walls of his mum's house.
I have never seen his mother looking anything other than like a little old lady in pics. Someone bought her shades. He often says they are incredibly close. Maybe she is as thirsty as him for him to be uber famous. Maybe she's down with it all.
>>121 Sorry I know that! Why did I say publicist? I think it's the shock...!!
>>114 The fans are claiming that the paparazzi followed their movements on social media and were hounding them. That it's not Tom and Taylor's fault they're so famous. I mean if your audience is THIS naive then obviously the sky is the limit with this showmance. I've even read comments where people are justifying that you just know when someone is the one and Tom said that he's let everyone know when there was something to write home about.
This isn't something to write home about. This is a parade. Tom really isn't behaving like a well educated 35 yr old adult man anymore.
>>120 Maybe they refused. Or we'll see them get papped tomorrow going to his mom's or in London on Sunday. I'll bet we don't see Dad.
Well, his Oscar campaign (for what film I have no idea), started very early.
>>120 Oh well he can't blow through his whole family all at once, he's got to keep them spread out so they can get in the tabloids every day for the next week.
>>122 "Mummy please, this will help me get Bond, I swear! Just put on these sunglasses and pretend you like this girl, please? Please, mum!"
>>121 That's his own Jag? Lol! The DM said its a rental and it makes Tom look even more pathetic that he rented a car for Taylor while she's flying him around in her personal jet.
>>124 That quote regarding something to write home about was from an interview during the Coriolanus era, either the Times or ELLE UK. At that point people took it as a direct slap in Jarthy's face. So now that he's being so public, this relationship with TS is 'real.'
And my capcha was 'plowzzment'.
>>124 I can't access CB right now (the site won't load) but I bet his squad of apologists are saying just that, that his mum would never agree to a pap stroll, so it's all about REAL feelings. Confirmation bias is a bad beats.
>>131 They've been surprisingly quiet on the latest TayTo thread. It's under 200 posts. One poster posted the link to the pap stroll and they snarked that mama Hiddles must be thirsty too. Meaning that one poster believes it's all legit and real and true love.
>>124 They aren't f*cking hounding him. They were already there.
The guy who saw him tweeted at 16.14 that he saw TH getting coffee in a petrol station in Colchester.
The DM has a photograph of TH getting coffee at the Colchester services (it has an m&s simply food shop which you can see in the background). That photo is very high quality and has the name of an agency at the bottom. It was taken by a professional. That professional could not possibly have read that tweet and arrived at the petrol station within a matter of seconds to take that photo.
>>132 considering how much glee they felt when BC did the same, it must be difficult for them.
>>131 >>124 I saw a tumblr post that said something along the lines of "this is obviously real, because when have we ever seen him bring anyone else home to meet his mother?" I don't think these people are really thinking about what they're saying - Tom bringing a woman home to meet his mother is NOT SOMETHING WE SHOULD BE SEEING. Your significant other meeting your family is not a public event! And based on what Anon said at >>116 not only was it completely unnecessary, but they had to inconvenience themselves to make sure they were photographed being oh-so-happy together.
>>133 Exactly
So next will surely be Wimbledon.
I almost wonder what type of strategizing goes into this, what are the PR teams conversations like. That's what I would love to have a transcript of >.<
Random other thoughts:
1) I don't think she is pregnant. I think this is her respectable meet the parents outfit. She can hardly show up wearing that biscuit-revealing black dress she had on in Nashville. She was probably imagining tea and scones and noblesse oblige.
2) I don't think it is an engagement ring because she is wearing it on the wrong finger. That presupposes they are making an attempt to hide the truth about their secret engagement. Um......do we believe at this point that these two are hiding anything apart from the actual moment of coitus?
>>137 I want to join that team cause they obviously take mushrooms
>>139 We on this board could take all the mushrooms in the world and still come up with a better PR plan.
Throwback to a quote from Old Tom a.k.a. Fake Tom:
http://theopiniondominion.tumblr.com/post/146444343123/do-the-work-enjoy-the-work-take-it-seriously
>>143 lol all I got from that is that 'enchantedbyhiddles' needs to change her name
Can I steal someones tinfoil hat for a moment to throw something outlandishly weird out there?
Maybe this is how he gets his break but keeps his name out there, burning people out, shucking the title of internets boyfriend, perhaps putting a stop to the dancing bear persona or at least in its previous incarnation. Unless it's something hideous it wouldn't affect his roles much, right? I know I'm being nutters, but eh... just saying.
I promise to never don the tinfoil hat again.
>>143 I even remember this article, I think it was with ELLEUK, beginning of 2014. I really need to delete of this crap from my brain.
>>145 I would agree this if the comments had been limited to the gossip world, but here it's the serious press, it's journalists he had interviews with. BC did all the PR stuff, but nobody in the serious press drag him. So it might end up affecting his career, he won't be jobless but it has definitely changed the perception people had of him. And as I said before, studios care about boxoffice results.
>>145 I'd be lying if I said I hadn't thought something similar. It's almost like he's actively trying to alienate his fanbase, isn't it?
>>146 This is the part of the stunt that I feel has gone terribly wrong for him. I don't think the possibility of Tom getting mocked by the Guardian, Esquire, etc. crossed the minds of whoever came up with this stupid idea.
>>147 It is, but in a more polite way than telling people to straight fuck off and give him some space. But his more recent interviews right before this potato business sounded a bit tired and jaded. (I'm looking at you quotes about seeing people for what they are and about things being destroyed )
Perhaps he wanted to engineer a break from the madness. But I dunno, who would really do that? Not likely, and I'm not presenting it as such.
>>149 Yeah. I had tossed the idea around when I was still trying to justify his behavior as something that made sense.
>>145 If only. He's just exchanged the dancing bear persona for Taylor's dancing bear persona. At least the first one was endearing. This is a massive joke. Didn't an article call him Taylor's dancing monkey? Yeah it was the Slate - http://www.slate.com/blogs/xx_factor/2016/06/16/taylor_swift_kissed_tom_hiddleston_and_everyone_is_freaking_out.html
I think Tom had a mental breakdown when they rejected him for Bond and now he's gone completely off the rails.
>>147 is that even possible these days? If it's not tumblr, it's be instagram, I mean that every new artist will become the darling of some social network or the other. He would be the only one making such a big fuss about it. After he courted that
I guess he thought that mearly getting a serious gf wouldn't push away the rabid, 'crazy' fans - he had to push people away. And it's certainly elevated his recognition - he is #3 on imdb as someone said earlier.
>>149 I get the "trying to change your image" bit. (Though into what? A famewhore and Taylor's side piece?). But if you wanted space is this what you'd do? That Vulture piece someone posted yesterday was from a recent sit down with NY Mag (and seemingly others - in about April I think) - and he was tired of the publicity yes, but his reaction was "some things are sacred" - ie leave me the hell alone and don't ask about my personal life. From that to this? I don't get it.
>>151 Exchanging one dancing monkey for another - that's it New Anon
>>154 He/his publicity thought they need to burn the house down and rebuild it.
>>156 It's just such a 180 so quickly... and I never would have dreamed he'd bring his family into it.
This article is recent, 3 days ago, but it mentions ISTL as Oscar material
http://www.theresident.co.uk/london-culture-events/tom-hiddleston-interview-bond-oscars-hampstead-heath/
>>154 yep, that's the difficult part to digest, that it wasn't a 180 at all, that his answer were fake.
>>159 Oh God, is THAT what all this is about? Did he get word there might be an Oscar nom for good ol' Hank even though the movie was a train wreck? So he's dating Taylor Swift, spending time in Nashville, meeting up with Hank's granddaughter...
>>157 And the article concludes that this press bombardment is all about - not Calvin - but to deflect from Kim/Kanye and her alleged lying about the video.
>>156 Maybe that's it indeed, burning down the house. It's been surefire, fairly quick, and increasingly successful. While boosting his name recognition if not his reputation, and he isn't having to do all that terribly much. Any hint of a return to normalcy would most likely be welcomed, so a free chance afterwards to become a new man and change some of his public persona?
>>163 So this is a PR relationship of mutual benefit. He retools, she deflects.
>>163 it seems to me he did an excellent job with his old PR, I mean here we are in the face of evidence that he stooped down to such a low level, and we are still trying to find a reasonable explanation to justify his choices. We are just refusing to admit we were the victim of a PR manipulation.
>>161,164 I have no idea, yes his performance was praised, but by the time of the Oscar next year there'll so many new films that his will be long forgotten, so I don't really see this being about an Oscar.
>>166 I know you're right. It's just so disappointing. And I don't like being played.
>>166 Oh no doubt, his old PR is the reason I became a fan. And I'm not a fan of anyone, like.. ever. I don't follow shows or movies or people so it was a rarity - aaaand I've been a fan for just a few months. In time to attend WW in PA and see this trainwreck. Which is reminding me why I tend to hold that all celebrities are by nature, batshit. (Sorry for the rant, but yeah. I loved the PR of who he was, he seemed like a legitimately cool AF person worthy of respect. )
>>168,169 I know, and this we are doing isn't even the worst part, I bet that in a small corner of our brain we are all hoping this will end fast with the usual TS's way, so that we will maybe manage to save some respect for him and be able to go back being fans, dismiss everything as a momentary craziness. And I bet he knows that.
But the truth is that we were or we are being played. Even if before he was truly thinking those things, now he doesn't anymore. So how can you trust any future statement of his?
>>170 You can't, after this is over or I get bored I'm legitimately out of the fandom. Not because of his relationship, I'm a-ok with that. Or the PR part because we all have public faces, and they don't reflect who we are privately. Lord knows if you talk to me at work, I'm a professional. And so are they.
I'm just a moralistic snob and he lost me at the cheating. There's no way around the timeline where there wasn't at least emotional cheating, and he was on board with it. But no, it's business you can't trust a thing and shouldn't. He probably has a basis of the qualities everyone admired. But those don't make a complete person, just an aspect that was focused on for the professional mask. He's changing that, showing more or simply using the sudden shift as tinder to bonfire the entire thing and start from scratch.
>>171 if sources around his ISTL extracirricular relationship with EO are to be believed, this is not the first time.
>>171 The same thing probably happened with Elizabeth Olsen too. She started working with Tom and then suddenly broke off her engagement over the phone. At the very least, it gives the impression he's sitting there waiting to be a rebound. (That is if we're going with the idea that this thing with TS is at all legitimate.)
Well, I for one am going to look on the bright side - maybe we'll get another Michael K article tomorrow.
>>171 I ignored everything Hiddles for the past 4 months, I'll go back to it as soon as this is over too.
God, imagine if he forces his what? 75 years old father to do a papstroll? yew
>>176 I still can't get over how fishbowl everything is, 360 view at all times. But if they're doing Da, it would most likely be soon. He's running out of days to be photographed on before Thor. Unless he'll be flying the family and TS out to do a set visit Photo Op there. Hmmm.. merit.
>>175 Well, the brightside of it is that he thinks he's a Knight in Shining Armor (or Amour) for these two sad, sweet ladies.
Rationalization is a hell of a drug. And he may be hitting rock bottom.
>>178 I hope not, rock bottom is a shitty place to be. :(
IMO he was coy about his private life was to protect his girlfriends from crazed internet fans. Now he has met someone who doesn't need protection, someone who cannot be hounded off the internet or intimidated. And now he can do what he always wanted, show off his partner and be shown off.
>>180 I get where you're coming from, but 1. this has gone way beyond "showing off" a partner, and 2. it goes against everything he's said over the years not just about his love life but about wanting to be taken seriously as an actor and keep the focus on his work.
>>180 No. This is bs.
>>180 I could totally see once as him feeling free to express his love or whatever. But we're working on literally something every 1 to 2 days. It's intentional, but he's not the one really showing anything off. Besides meeting his mom, all of the dates have been her turf.
And with >>181 Completely against the principles he's repeated for the past several years. Discretion seemed to be important.
>>183 ;)
I get desperately wanting to give the man the benefit of the doubt and wanting to see all this through pink coloured glasses, but let's not bend facts to theory.
If TH was ever that kind of person he would have opened his articulated and eloquent mouth to tell his fans to back off Susannah or EO, the way Charlie Hunnam did for his gf.
TH has sold out his private life, because make no mistake both TH and TS are making money out of these papstrolls.
In the meantime, Chris Hemsworth yesterday published a photo with Taika Waitit saying they have been discussing Thor3. Which means they are both already there busy with the film.
And then there's this article with some set photos and that says "Principal photography on Marvel’s Phase 3 Thor sequel, Thor: Ragnarok, the biggest movie to be made in Australia this year, will begin on July 4 and continue until at least the end of October."
http://www.goldcoastbulletin.com.au/entertainment/its-a-marvel-in-the-making-as-thor-ragnaroks-majestical-universe-rises-on-gold-coast/news-story/dee9d716dfbfdc1e89f472edb04ecaa2
Is it mean that I hope THor3 will be a great success and with very little TH in it? =P
Taika Waititi said in a recent interview that Thor3 should be more focused on Thor's character instead of Loki.
Maybe they only included Loki in a few small scenes and Tom was not pleased. Maybe that's why he's engaging in all this showmance. I wonder how Marvel is going to deal with all this.
Look at photo 3 of 25 of the DM pics with mummy. Not an iphone in his pocket. Cigarette packet?
How were the paps allowed inside the airport?
>>188 And actually looking closer he has the phone in his hand. Couch, you called it right. He's smoking (again?). Maybe he never stopped.
>>188 You know I noticed that and thought it looked like a pack of cigarettes, but promptly forgot about it as I sat there gaping at my computer screen, muttering "his mother. his mother? his own mother. his MOTHER?" in stunned disbelief.
Papping his mother is very weird indeed and probably an indication of how much leverage TS has in the relationship.
They both imho, need to lay low a tiny bit for a tiny while .. I was kidding about the next Friday engagement announcement but i see that with the discussions about rings and babies what .. 14 days? into the whole thing, I might've been a bit ah .. late.
Anyway - I hope for Tom's sake that the bigger picture - whether it be Bond or everlasting love with the (A-list) love of his life, is worth it. He and his PR have managed to make some form of mincemeat out of his former brand .. the new one remains very suspiciously plastic.
>>189 I am guessing because they were there with the rest of the team. See my post above about them being "papped"" at the petrol station. That photo was taken because the paps were travelling with them.
>>191 More evidence that his public image may always have been very carefully controlled. I cannot recall a single pic where he has been caught smoking or an interview that referred to him smoking during the meeting (there was one where he said he had smoked during ISTL). Even that pic at the ES Awards where Anon. thought he was smoking outside with Helen McCrory was cropped so the cig wasn't visible. But that is a cigarette packet, I am sure.
>>190 ww4.sinaimg.cn/large/6e14d388gw1f57dh7vh76j20qq0zf7ce.jpg
left hand:eyeglasses+iPhone
left pocket:car keys?
right pocket:cigarettes packet, definitely.
either he never stopped and he has been lying about it, or he picked it up again out of stress...in a moment when he is not supposed to be stressed.
>>195 Maybe just got bitten by the habit again during ISTL and it never left?
Someone who comments on CB has totally been on here and has stolen both my name and almost word for word the comments I made about the Hiddleston house being off the main road and it being illegal to photograph people in their gardens! And my comment about the pap being with them at the petrol station!!! FFS....
If I were Tom right now, I'd take up smoking too. And I've never even touched a cigarette before.
>>196 I think there was a radio interview during the promotion of ISTL this past month (in NY I think? I condensed so much info in a week I can't remember exactly) and the dj flat out asked him if he is a smoker and he actually smoked while filming ISTL and TH's reply was that "No, I'm not a smoker. The one in the film were fake cigarettes".