Previously: http://4-ch.net/dqn/kareha.pl/1326391378
I hope nobody minds that I cleaned up the title a little bit.
>>47
I feel the same. I like the regular fans of anime and manga and video games, and those interested in Asian or Japanese culture. And to be perfectly frank, such people are smarter than the average American. Or at least that is my experience.
One of the reasons you-know-what-imageboard went to crap is because of the difference in the mind set of Amercian 'net users and Japanese 'net users.
As you probably know the Japanese have a very very strong group, or herd, mindset. And for reasons unknown to me they also already have the idea of keeping separate their cyber-space life from their meat-space life. This is part of why Facebook -a site all about the individual/yourself and where you are forced to use your real legal name- is not cracking the Japanese market and why Twitter -a site about the trending topics/mass discussion and where you can make up any identity you want- is pretty popular.
When a Japanese person sees an Internet community of some sort, they think "How can I become a part of this? How can I add to this?" Which of course forms a better community no matter what!
But, when an American, or a westerner in general, sees some sort of Internet community they think "How can I make this about me? What can I take from this?" Sub-consciously or otherwise. In my honest opinon that the majority of my generations minds have been tainted with narcissism.
http://www.guardian.co.uk/technology/2012/mar/17/facebook-dark-side-study-aggressive-narcissism?INTCMP=SRCH
Of course here I am posting this with a tripcode. Guess I'm one of them. Even if the vast majority of the time I post anonymously. But then what makes me want to use a tripcode that 1% of the time I'm not posting anonymously?
I have seen grey!C.MxxuCiTo post a few times now. I generally forget names and tripcodes, but he has caught my attention.
Is he one of the people I am supposed to (or going to) hate? He seems okay so far.
>>50,54
You make some good points, and I agree with the gist of what you're saying. I, too, wish for an internet where people focus on the community rather than the individual. That's why I love places like DQN.
However, I think your idealization of the Japanese internet isn't quite true. (Keep in mind that the following is based on personal experience, not concrete data.) I've found the average Japanese internet user to be as guilty of individualism as their western counterparts. Japanese know of 2-ch, but most people I meet use it rarely, favoring more personal sites. Mixi, twitter and personal blogs are very popular, and Facebook is rapidly gaining ground as well.
And then I've found that even 2-ch itself is not really the magical heaven of quality that we sometimes to make it out to be. They have plenty of stupid posters, elitists and spammers, just like the western internet.
In short, I think the concept behind 2-ch is noble and wonderful, but nothing is perfect in practice. Wherever you go, you will have to do some sifting to get the quality. The most we can do is keep trying to make entertaining posts, and hope other users follow suit.
>>54
I think it had some success but it's an uphill battle. I still saw a ton of 2-ch character paraphernalia wherever I went in big cities in Japan, and I doubt they asked permission or donate the money to 2-ch's servers.
>Mixi, twitter and personal blogs are very popular, and Facebook is rapidly gaining ground as well.
>Facebook is rapidly gaining ground as well.
Aw crap.
>>56
>and I doubt they asked permission or donate the money to 2-ch's servers.
Oh! That's painfully obvious. And actually sounds like a good idea. Hunh.
Remember, kids. You can't spell "W W W" without "w."
>>47 Maybe Americans are too individualistic?
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Hello, this is Espeon. I just watched S2E01 of Futurama again. I think I should post with my tripcode less often, like I did when I was young and foolish. Nowadays, all this fuss over individualism makes me look insensitive and slightly impolite.
You'll be able to recognize my wise and bitter posts anyway.
I hope she doesn't actually kill herself.
On a related note, does anybody have any tips for talking someone out of suicide?
>>65
If you have a means of heading to their home, I would recommend giving them immediate company. Otherwise you might successfully imbue them with the perspective of how insignificant their problems might be compared to worldly issues at hand. If they are feeling particularly isolated and alone, reassure them that you care for them and would be devastated to see them go - for example: If they say "nobody cares about me", the proper response is "I care about you". Sometimes, if you have experienced their sort of trauma, you can empathise with them and thus create a feeling of shared misfortune. This serves to lighten their burden significantly.
I know a lot of very depressed people.
I am going outside now.
You guys should post on /manga/ more!
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>>66
Here's some insight from someone who's suicidal at the moment (I'm getting help, no worries), the advice about noting the person's insignificance would have an opposite effect, because it's the meaningless of life that's currently troubling me. Be sure to know about the person's troubles before giving them advice.
>>74
I suspected as much, to be honest. Good to know you're getting help as well. It'd be a great shame to lose a fellow dokyun.
/dqn/ is turning into /personal/...
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>>77
Ah hell, there's a gear stuck somewhere. Give me a minute...
This photo helped me a lot: http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/7/73/Pale_Blue_Dot.png
I believe that understanding of the insignificance of everything and the nothingness of death are two major milestones in personal philosophy. Don't let religious nonsense about afterlife, reincarnation, etc get you there.
The first one reveals how ridiculous are people, lets you poke fun at them and improves the mood in general. The latter one gives you an ability to judge whenever the life sucks big enough to be done with it.
DQN is the color of her hair. DQN is a refreshing breeze and the rustling of leaves. DQN is a sweet smile from an old lady. DQN is a fansub group taking up the series you want to watch. DQN is your VC being relevant and making you smile. DQN is drinking a warm cup of hot chocolate with mittens on, watching the snow fall outside.
And when you finally find DQN, you'll be at rest.
I think that I experienced a panic attack in class today. We watched a video about crystal meth when it happened. For some reason, I've always just felt funny when the topic of drugs comes up. Anyway, what happened was they were showing some houses of meth addicts, interviews with their kids, that kind of thing. I start feeling weird. A bit dizzy, a bit sick to my stomach. I start to sweat and feel hot. My pulse begins to slow down, and I get dizzy. My vision fades out to white and I wonder if I'm dying. My world feels like it's came to a stop, and I just get hotter and hotter as I worry that people are staring at me. (My head is down on my desk at this point.) I'm not sure how long the whole experience lasted, but it couldn't have been more than five minutes, and it was very, very, awful.
I wish that somewhere out there in this wide world there was a hot girl with a fetish for a boy that likes drunkenly eating a baguette erotically in bed while half-heartedly watching youtube videos.
God damn it, I bet I had the Zeppelin key with me the entire time.
>>82
That's beautiful.
>>85
I'm sorry. I've been in the car when my mom had a panic attack. I've never had one myself so I can't say I know what it's like, but I know its hard on people. It think can be proud of yourself for getting through it.
>>79
That photo is from the Cassini space probe, right? I'm not sure.
Voyagers are so far away...
>>92
That sounds more like something you should be telling to a 911 call than to DQN...
Almost all the posts on DQN happen when I'm asleep...
Anthropology and ancient history are such enlightening topics to pursue after one has dwelled intellectually upon modern conceptions of life, death and the nature of the universe. Feeling a sense of empathy with tribes and civilisations of millennia past I am struck not only with the inevitability of our humanity, but an anticipation for the possible accomplishments we have yet to achieve.
I really want to make a shitty response after what >>97 just said
No. Shut up. Shut the fuck up.
SHUT
THE FUCK
UP
I WILL FUCKING KILL YOU IF YOU SAY ONE MORE FUCKING WORD
WHAT THE FUCK IS WITH YOU
I am not a billionaire.
If I was a billionaire, I'd feel exactly the same and be doing all the same stuff, just in a slightly bigger room.
> put DICK in GAYNUS
My head, oh lord, my head...
Egh, a spring broke in my mattress. Now it's poking me in the ass and tearing a hole in my pants.
>>106
PROTIP: To add insult to injury, wear a fluorescent condom for MASSIVE DAMAGE.
bing sucks.
maybe alcohol isn't such a good hobby after all.
>>106
The hard part is solving the puzzle that lets you get the Cheney statue in the first place.
Well, damn. No new mail. I guess I'm fresh out of excuses for not cleaning my room once again.
DQN, have you read your Remembering the Kanji today?
>>114
No. However I read my American Sign Language. Have you?
I don't think I can identify myself as human any more.
I have the annoying version of ADD where I remember everything I'd read before I was distracted, and thus experience no impediment to learning, yet nonetheless find it cumbersome to continue my studies.
I am no longer hungry.
Making my buzzed friend think up one-liners for the CSI thread is fun.
8-bit integer get!
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Nausea~
I was just trying to remember what the number 131 reminded me of. Turns out it was Iodine-131.
That was DISGUSTING. I am glad my friend gave me a change of clothes.
I'm picturing >>132 getting a hot load of semen sprayed in his face right now.
>>133
Actually I was helping a friend clean a bunch poop off his cat. I only wish I was that gay.
For all that I disliked the Harry Potter fandom as a teenager, I'm glad the actual stories (and a good deal of fan-fiction for that matter) were genuinely entertaining works of literature. Growing up, it's distressing to see kids these days with their Twilights, Hunger Games, Homestucks and whatnot, who might never know the meaning of good fiction.
Also, what other fandom has created something as amazing as AVPM? That's right; none.
vc: lame
>>135
I think the works you mentioned have about equal narrative quality. You are probably looking through a nostalgia filter.
>>136
Probably. Harry Potter was good thought, right?
...right?
>>137
I thought it was average, at best. It's a lot better than Twilight though, that's for sure.
I love German!
Kätzcheeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeen~
/dqn/ has been awfully rude lately.
It's better to be alone than to degrade yourself for the sake of a woman.
Two years ago I went to Japan for a week and gave my email address to some manga cafe in Ueno where I spent the night, in exchange for cheaper hourly rates. Today they sent me their first email newsletter. Talk about a blast from the past.
Most of the music from SXSW is not very good. But what little there is good is delightful.
>>142
I wonder what took them so long.
http://www.thinkgeek.com/tshirts-apparel/hoodies/ec3e
CAAAAAAAATS! MITTENS!
>>144
I'm of the bitter camp that hates geek/otaku clothing, but that's so cute. I want it!
I just found an old telecom business newspaper from 2001. It predicts the phone network will collapse if ISPs ever stop charging customers for bandwidth by the minute.
Mayans? What?
Holy shit how is it even possible to procrastinate this much
