Official thread for all users migrating her from 4chan to discuss things while 4chan is down!
That's right! This is a thread for me and me alone because none of them came here!
Get out of here you non-4chan user faggots!
Now that the hacker formally known as 4chan is dead, should I:
A) work on improving myself
B) browse Reddit
This site's and Hikari3's layouts are my favorite. They're very different from each other but they hurt my eyes the least.
>>48
Yeah, it's crazy how every one of them is still so slow. I guess Kiwi Farms is the one site that really won in the end since it seems like at least half of the posters in the 4chan thread are new ones.
>>50
It's better to end it all than stoop to browsing reddit. I've been doing it for years by habit and it's absolutely unsalvageable. I'm kinda saddened about what might happen to the cesspool that is 4chan, but I'm praying reddit goes down for good. Nothing of value will be lost.
>>48
I only really know about altchans because the first time I went on 4chan, I assumed that there had to be other "numbered" chans and ended up stumbling onto 7chan. I feel like 8chan had to have been popular enough for altchans to be common knowledge, but I am starting to think a significant portion of the userbase had sloughed off of twitter looking for a place where they could spam slurs.
>>48
It looks like most people have settled for just ghostposting on the archives while waiting for 4chan to come back.
Where are all the cool kids posting right now? I only know this place and leftypol.
somebody should make an image board called fochan. then we can sing "sold my fochan".
>>54
Everybody's scattered like a diaspora. Check out allchans, it lists all altchans, and don't just look at the recent post the admin made because there's a lot of good active alternatives he doesn't list, just look at the list you see when you enter the website and browse the ones you like. Also check out Kiwi Farms, plenty of anons there.
Am I mad or was there a board on 4-ch for disussing imageboards at one point?
I'm probably getting it mixed it with world4ch.
>>57
Internet Addicts is more or less that, but you might be thinking of the long dead "Society for the Study of Modern Image Board Culture" that was linked from the iichan/wakachan sidebars like 4-ch was.
>>58
Maybe I was thinking of that, but I've just checked, and there was "/img/ - Imageboards" on world4ch (RIP)
While having a look, I've seen this viewer ( https://github.com/bibanon/world4ch ) and this db of the old site ( https://archive.org/details/@ghonsonb3120 ). I've not checked to see if they're legit, but I always felt a bit sad they never took off.
Does anyone remember 4chan's older textboards, /dis/ and /sug/?
>>51
Reddit is the US govt. It's views match exactly. Not surprising given which city was the "most addicted" in 2012 according to Reddits own blog.
While it's on my mind I'll post that the leaks claim that Israel is the most common flag on /pol/ by a ridiculous amount, which seems to shock all the conspiracy theorists.
Does no-one remember that all flags were set to be Israel's or "JIDF" for several years?
>Does no-one remember that all flags were set to be Israel's or "JIDF" for several years?
Why would tourists be aware of this?
>>61
It's an old fake screenshot. 4plebs doesn't even have rankings. But if you search by flags, you can see that there are way more results for US posters than for Israel. JIDF at the very least would use memeflags so it's retarded all around. It's still funny that people who know nothing about 4chan are acting like it's a huge thing on x. As long as they hate Israel I'm cool with that. TKD as they say.
But where are is /ptg/ now?
>Society for the Study of Modern Image Board Culture
that was just jkid's autism project
>>46 what about the way 22chan implemented multiple images? I think it works and looks rather decently.
i don't understand why an imageboard needs multiple images per post
i hey everyone i just discovered the secret to twink pregnancy
hello from /trash/
>>46
You pointed out exactly what I think is wrong with that format.
What are some altchans where I can post cat gore without a gay nigger reddit admin banning me and putting le (user was banned for this post) funnyroo message?
Good.
Track them all down and kill everyone.
Honestly, in a lot of ways imageboards shouldn't be too complex. The more complex they are, the more issues you have. Every vector of attack (even just posting illegal images/videos) means more effort for the staff, and I think that the modern internet almost makes 4chan-as-it-was to be hard to maintain.
>>41
I've had the theory for a long time that social-surrogate addiction is something that has to be dealt with, even perhaps banning social media at the state level, or at least limiting internet speeds to the point where only minimal sites are possible, preferably allowing for people to only check in every few days or once a week.
You can say that this is an attack on freedom or whatever, but I really don't care. The modern internet in nearly every aspect is a social ill and I'm sick of acting like we have to accept it.
Perhaps those old pre-web BBSs, and Usenet, had it right by letting people log on and download their new messages while posting the new ones they made while offline.
>>74
Imageboards don't scale well. Any imageboard the size of 4chan would be almost impossible to moderate effectively. If it wasn't for the owner's incompetance, most of 4chan's problems came from the size of its userbase and how overexposed it was to the rest of the internet. This probably why regular forums also died. They too don't scale well. Social media is successful because it can absorb millions of users and keep them under some level of automated control at the expense of retarding and atomizing them.
>>67
A project that could have been interesting if it wasn't for his incompetance in sociology.
>>76
I agree. I think any time a web community gets above a few dozen people it either explodes or implodes. I think the same has been proven to happen in real life communities.
Like I said though, I'm increasingly against the internet as it is, and sometimes I thin about just outright quitting altogether. I was there during the great times, but those are gone and perhaps the best thing that someone can do is find a quiet corner and retire?
I feel like, while you're right to say that social media is better at wrangling people, it might be better were it not quite so good at it? I don't know...
JAPANESE OLD BOY!!!
>>76 As annoying of a buzzword as it is, I think the real solution to moderating larger imageboards is to automate it through AI.
While I agree that feature creep on image (and text) boards sucks, I don't get why they didn't switch to Wakaba (and Kareha) back in the day. Last time the source code leaked, it was a mess.
Just take the site down for a bit, give the HTML/CSS output a 4chan coat of paint, and people would get used to it. They've previously adjusted the theme, added (You)s and hovering boxes, CAPTCHAs, all that stuff - which used to be the domain of clients/userscripts.
The web has moved on, but at the end of the day I think most posters just wanted message boards where they enter comments into some boxes, then the site serves them pages full of messages. Features like catalogs, archives, and so on did fundamentally change how the site works IMO. (And then there's /pol/...)
>>81 Is the Wakaba/Kareha code even safe to use as-is? I know this place did a lot of work on it but the actual scripts were last updated in like 2015.
>>80 I remember when people tried to bolt Akismet onto those old PHP forums and it mostly ended up being annoying in a funny way but not effective against spam
Throwing an LLM at the problem would probably be even worse than that type of old automatic filter, since people would unjustifiedly trust it too much
Maaaaaannn.... When 4chan comes back, I hope they add likes/dislikes to posts. I'm tired of not knowing if a post is good or not. It would be such a huge QoL improvement.
>>85
I hope they add accounts with usernames, so I can build up a reputation, and show off how much of a cool 4chan user I am! And make friends with others too!
It would be so cool...
>>86
fr that sounds dope af y'all. Then we'd also know who the good posters were and could value what they say more than others. No matter what they post. 4chan would be so much more usable with changes like that.
>>84
i had a thoughtful post written as a response but no matter what i did 4-ch flagged it as spam
I was a 4chan fagtard, I used to frequent /g/ and sometimes /x/ and maybe /vr/
I'll miss it when I could post whatever I wanted before the mods became a bunch of gay furry cuckolds.
>>80
Thought about creating a program that would scan images on upload using OCR for text that most pedos use and ban them and block the upload.
In addition I had planned to use something like iqdb and related programs to be able to analyze the images that are similar looking and should be blocked.
In the end I never did this because it would just be cat and mouse with pedo and malicious posters. Kind of how it is currently with 4-ch with the recent pedo spam.
4channers are subhumans. It needs to go back up ASAP or those scum bags will come here.
>>69
When I'm uploading my scat and yaoi pictures to /pol/ I can do it in 10 posts, instead of a 100, duh.
/x/ was the only good board
/a/: Goldmine for anime & manga recommendations. I enjoyed the storytiming and discussions for currently airing shows.
>>94
When /a/ was good it was pretty good. Storytime threads were fun and was was a good place to talk about more niche series and find new stuff to watch.
The problem being it's still on fucking 4chan and for every good thread there were 3 cancerous bait threads full of /v/tards and shonenspics.
Also is it too early to be referring to 4chan in the past tense?
ROW ROW FIGHT THE POWAH!
I'm staying off the internet for a while. after all once you burn the house down all the pests will scatter into the neighborhood.
>I'm staying off the internet for a while.
Offline time is like a drug. The more of it you get the more you want.
Has anyone seen anything official from the mods recently? Still don't know if Hiro has said anything at all on it. Any news on when it's going to be back up and what the fixes will be, since the whole site code was leaked?
>>99
A twitter post saying they're working on it(tm)
Also, I heard from another imageboard that someone on kiwifarms estimated about 15-25 days to get the site up and running and fix all the exploits, for what its worth.
I've been cruising the interwebs checking out different imageboards to see what's going on and have come to the conclusion that I've been living in a bubble. To me 4chan was always a wapanese website for otakus to hang out in and sometimes pretend to be retarded for teh lolz but no one seems to see 4chan that way anymore. There's also a lot of aggressively mentally ill people out there that I can't tell if they are being serious or not with the crazy and paranoid things they say. Wizchan especially has a lot of weirdos but I guess that is to be expected there. Am I really so out of touch or are the children wrong?
>>101
Are you saying that you actually never perceived the widening gap(s) in the huge community (communities) of 4chan throughout the yars?
Ultimately, the last year the 4chan was exactly as you've just described it was 2012, before the one minute post cooldown, the 4chan pass etc.
Seems people are at 8chan moe, don't know about 8kun, maybe at the soyjak site, but also theres lots camping out at downdetector, or /downs/, if you will.
Only feds are at 8kun, most of the former channers migrated to 8chanmoe, lainchan, soyjak.party, kissu.moe, lolcow.farm, kiwifarms, wizardchan, endchan, leftypol, etc.
Half of these websites are genuinely bad, but at least they get the job done.
>>101
I am probably one of the mentally ill people you are talking about. I mod there, and I agree with you that the culture can be pretty weird. Most of the activity happens on a hidden board anyway.
The whole internet is already dead.
I've been on 4chan daily since 2005. I'm realising part of the reason I still post is to cling on to the glory days of my youth.
Your mid-30s is kind of cruel when you have lots of responsibilities: job, house, pets, kids, wife, aging parents etc and sometimes it's nice to dive into boards and remember the good old days when you'd fap several times a night, play vidya with friends, and read visual novels and play 2hu. Maybe I can quit for real this time.
>>107
I know where you're coming from. It's nice to retreat from worrying about the roof leak that's getting worse into reliving something from easier times (when other people were the ones worrying about leaking roofs). I think part of the reason I clung around to 4chan, or even just the internet in general, was a desire to not fully let go of this, even though the reason that I was hanging on hasn't been true for a long time.
I've been having a feeling that the internet is, in a way, "over," and the death of 4chan -- whether it comes back or not doesn't really matter -- is the final nail in the coffin not just of my youth but also the internet that was worth caring about to begin with.
It sounds weird to say, but I used to think that the internet dying would be terrible because, at the core, it would mean the end of 4chan, and the end of something that pretty much defined my teenage years. Or at least a major part of it.
Now it's gone, why hang round? I don't mean "make a twitter/facebook and go normie," because that doesn't interest me at all. I mean, why even go online at all when the symbol of why I was there in the first place is gone?
Idolizing 4chan? Just the fact that you've ever done that is telling.
Bizarre people.
The pope died so that 4chan might live.
>>109
It's not so much 4chan I'm idolizing. More what 4chan was in terms of its place in internet history.
>>111
Alright, let's be honest and say that you're not completely wrong, but you're also fucking equating the death of 4chan with the death of the web.
LIke, are you serious? This type of stuff (that you hear from time to time) really makes me question how some of you people even use and browse the net.
I went to Reddit on reflex, realized what I did, and kept scrolling for some stimulation. All I got was doomposting and reposted TikTok vids, as expected. Please kill me.
>>107
I know that feel. Been a daily 4chan user since 2007.
I'm also realizing that I really only got exposure to new memes and jokes from my old hangouts /g/, /biz/, and a few others. Now I'm finding that I don't have a real place to laugh at stuff online anymore ecxept for maybe kiwifarms. But it's not quite the same experience that the rapid fire anonymous shit posting on 4chan provided. Also every alt chan is basically unusable without a 4chanX equivelant.
[Mod Team]: The old site's been hit, but it's gonna turn out alright. You're gonna take a long vacation to some old forgotten *chan and we'll catch the hell.
[Newfags]: How bad do you think it's gonna be?
[Mod Team]: It's okay, these things gotta happen every five or ten years or so. Helps to get rid of the bad blood.
captcha: uncothe
I didn't hang out the whole time, and there were far healthier communities elsewhere on the internet, and 4chan was a festering corpse from the get-go, drawing flies as it reverse-decomposed into a meaningless, bot-riddled hell. Its loss is for the best overall, feels a little like an orchestrated move of some kind, should matter less.
this thread easily has the highest amount of posts on this board
>>117 What are you talking about?
https://4-ch.net/general/kareha.pl/1172164632
https://4-ch.net/general/kareha.pl/1547388454
https://4-ch.net/general/kareha.pl/1130119860
https://4-ch.net/general/kareha.pl/1173107881
https://4-ch.net/general/kareha.pl/1599910673
https://4-ch.net/general/kareha.pl/1625420190
https://4-ch.net/general/kareha.pl/1111604931
https://4-ch.net/general/kareha.pl/1524927030
>>112
I mean the web has changed, with social media and the shift to video and everything. Weird emphasis on politics, what used to be "yeah, there are anonymous assholes on the internet, learn to deal with it" is now serious crime (sometimes literally, lol wut).
For me it's less about taking part in big moments in e-culture, and just the simple fact that linear message boards like this are better than the 'Big Five' sites we have now.
Basically in the same boat as >>113 since it's 'the' omni-forum the same way YouTube is 'the' video website. But god damn it is terrible: the voting system alone means it gets so myopic. And you're not even able to keep track of specific users like a 'normal' phpBB-style forum, what's the fucking point?
>>119,114,108,107
bruh go to bed unc💔💔
So many people nostalgic for 4chan. How sad.
How about you be nostalgic for something in real life or more personal.
These sad people need to leave.
>>122
No! Flooding for GETs in '04 & '05 was a better experience than anything irl. That's an irrefutable fact.
>>102
I knew things had changed but I didn't realise just how much things had changed online outside of the couple of three sites I mainly stick too. Whatever happened to real life and the nets being two completely different things? Why are people bringing politics into everything in a serious way now? I don't like it.
>>105
Are you one of the posters there calling everything and everyone a "glowie"? I may have been a little harsh calling all of you mentally ill. Really it's that I can't stand the defeatism of the posters there. Just read a book on stoicism and choose a positive mindset already.
>>120
This comes off vaguely threatening.
>>122
Nothing wrong with being nostalgic for Ye Olde Web. Hell, some older forums are (somehow) still up and it's nice to check them out from time to time (in all their Web 1.0 glory). Old images/files from dusty hard drives, games I used to play, I don't think nostalgia is inherently bad or anything.
Of course I'll meet up with old friends and talk about old times, but that makes me bitter because now they're all more successful/married/employed than me ;__;
It's up
not fully. it gives me a message:
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Our server encountered a problem while processing your request.
SSL handshake failed
Cloudflare is unable to establish an SSL connection to the origin server.
>Whatever happened to real life and the nets being two completely different things?
That also ended around 2012, or at least that's when I personally perceived the change.
As per 4stats.io it looks like the 8ch guys finally got what they've been tryimg to get for about a decade now: they've successfully seized a goodly chunk of 4chan traffic. Not all of it or even most of it, but enough to be noticeable on a few boards. Now, let's see how they deal with it.
>>132
The new users will go back to 4chan in due time.
>>133
Maybe. Traffic remains down, especially on boards that are primarily used for "general" threads. Some specific recurring threads might not be coming back to those boards, i.e. /vt/'s Phase Connect ALiAS and Invaders thread, while others such as Girls' Frontline General on /vg/ were ghost towns for the first couple days back but are now split across 4 and 8 with active threads on both and could either stay that way and diverge into separate communities or merge back to one or the other. If they merge again, it's almost certainly going to be back to the 4chan thread--8chan has had stability issues in the past and continues to have them while dealing with the new traffic, and they've even had to repeatedly hop URLs to successor sites owned by entirely different people before. They've kept a lot of users across those jumps, but it's specifically the users who are committed to the idea of "I'll build my own 4chan, with blackjack and hookers", not so much people who are sticking around for the volume and quality of active discussion.
8chan basically only gains users by way of 4chan users getting frustrated because they feel there's too much or too little moderation (or the occasional death of another alt-*chan driving refugees there) and its core userbase is stuck on the idea of being "the real 4chan", so they're in 4chan's shadow as long as they're still alive and those core users can have an offputting kind of inferiority complex--a decade after GamerGate, they're still bringing up 4chan in discussions just so they can call it "halfchan" or "4cuck". And since boards are made by just anybody and there aren't really any long-time administrators to be held accountable to, there's always the chance a board owner gets a wild hair up his ass and decides to start banhammering people for offenses so minor even the worst 4chan janitors wouldn't bother with it... or they could just vanish entirely and leave their board in chaos. If that happens, people will split off again. Then users will have to choose between somebody making yet another new board to flee to or going back home to the house of Yotsuba.
>And since boards are made by just anybody
I dislike this.
I understand why there are a few imageboards centered around the idea of self-making and self-running boards but to me it's just a bad concept.
>>134
I've only heard horrible things about my home general since the site came back so I can attest to this
Not that it wasn't feminine mental illness general prior that is.
>>139
if i had to reinvent this system, i'd do it democratically. allow anons to vote for what kind of board they want to see and allow anons to elect board owners.
>>139
I feel like the General boards do largely the same thing, but better.
You still get your smaller sub-communities centered around different things you're into, but actual moderation and such are still up to the mods.
And the board itself regulates itself a bit, since you can only have so many threads at once and anything too dead will just get bumped off page 10.
(Or for slower boards, stick around for a year anyway.)
>>141
this is why the 4chan /trash/ refugees just remade the board on 8moe. it's a good system but it needs a lower bump limit and less pages.
What's with 4tards calling each other "sis" or "sister" now? I've noticed it a lot on /g/. When did that start and what does it mean?
>>143
It's the ironic form of "bros", but might be used if the topic involves women or something "woke". Not sure when it started but it's been on /v/ for a long time.
It's some sort of ironic approval (in other words mocking), and they've been doing for more than half a decade.
They use to agree with something and imply that what they've agreeing with/quoting is pure rubbish.