I HATE BEING SINGLE!!!
no! it is rockingest!
except when it's cold, and someone makes you tea, and bakes you a cake.
I can't say I enjoy it, but I don't seem to be bother to do anything about it.
orz
>>3 faps
>>3 speaks great truth.
I orz being single.
I'm 18. I've been single for 18 years, a new record!
I'm all shy and have too much pride. I have a feeling my instincts will take enough control soon though. I've gained courage recently and I suspect my hormones are helping.
i'm the same as >>7
orz
it's also unfortunate that i'm gay, and every guy i'm interested in is straight
What I find depressing is how most girls seem too much alike, too 'standardized'. If I can somehow explain it... I guess the accepted ideal of what an attractive female is just doesn't do anything for me. It's like they've got a mould somewhere, and they're just stamping them out. They all have the same sandy-blonde hair, the same figure and facial structure, wear the same sorts of clothes, etc. I can objectively say 'yeah, so-and-so is attractive', but...
Never mind that this is a convenient rationalization for not having to deal with the problem.
orz
...i need a single female rant thread. grr.
I enjoy being single in the fact that I don't really have to worry about a ton about my appearance (I like to look relatively nice, but with a girlfriend I'd probably have to put a lot more consideration), no issues with money (girlfriend=money), or have to do stuff I don't really enjoy doing or am not interested in (like browsing the mall, etc).
It gets lonely though: sometimes I literally dream about the perfect women who just gets along perfectly with me. However I'm also dissuaded to find a girlfriend because there are times when I can't stand being around other people, let alone close friends. I'm most comfortable alone! :/
Ranting complete!
>I enjoy being single in the fact that I don't really have to worry about a ton about my appearance
Funny I worry about my appearance because I am single
>>11
I know EXACTLY what you're talking about (of course I am a gay single female :{ )
What is funny is that I know many of these beautiful girls and they always wonder why it's so hard to find a boyfriend.
The answer is:
>they strive to look like every other girl out there
Yeah, and I like it when goth-chicks (or goths or the like in general) think they're unique while they're just another cliche.
I think some of it is that I prefer 'cute' over 'hot'.
>>17 has it right, rule 1 in >>16 applies to ALL cultures and subcultures. For me it is hipster art-students who are really irritating. When it comes down to it, they would rather look «creative» than be creative.
Girls who don't give a shit, who live only in their minds like an autistic child, where can you find them? Do you really want to find them?
I found one, and it was happy and miserable! A+++ would buy again.
hi guys! hail the single man's rant thread!!
Wow, I always say the exact same thing.
My problems are classical: I cling to old, failed relationships for a long time, each failed relationship drags me down more and I am less and less motivated to actually open up to new people in general. Blech.
>Girls who don't give a shit, who live only in their minds like an autistic child, where can you find them? Do you really want to find them?
Do girls want to find guys like that? =(
Don't really understand the mind of girl~
to complicated :p lol
Of course Not. Basically, many girls search a simple guy how make her feel the most beautiful woman in the earth. But, woman's want another things : a cool look, intelligence and nice performance. Money is no necessary, but it must be worker.
>>26 I wish girls liked smrts. But then most guys who have that complaint are pompous assholes, and I am a shy wallflower (*-ω-)
Well, at least you've recognised your problem.
Now, do something about. Be an asshole. Pretend that you were the one who decided to terminate those relationships and that they meant nothing... and start looking for a new one right away.
Or go the alternate route and attempt to start a new relationship, but take it slow. That way if it fails it would have meant little to you, as it probably wouldn't have been very developed.
This person speaks of the truth.
Generally just try and be outgoing, take care of your appearance, and you'll do just fine. Learn how to speak with women, have some conversation topics ready to go, and anyone should do fine.
Don't expect to take a shower, get dressed, go to a club, and find a long lasting relationship, but hey, itll be a start.
>>28-29
I am too lazy and introverted for that. And those solutions have too much to do with pretending and make believe, things I am just not good at and don't want to become good at.
Considering that I'm the same way, I think I can safely say this is bullshit. Not everything in life is just going to fall into your lap - you have to work a little bit to get anything worth having.
People basically scare me. Like a phobia. Pretty much kills any hope for me.
>>32 Does it? There are girls who are like that too. Pay attention to how you yourself act in public, and try to notice girls who behave the same way.
>>33 So he can hang around girls who act exactly the same as him? How boring.
What'll that accomplish? In the rare instances I'm out in public...
They'll still scare the shit out of me.
I figure it would help if you knew the girl was really scared of you. Maybe you would feel braver knowing that.
It's too painful to keep going, isn't it? Meeting someone you really like, someone you really feel comfortable talking to, to think maybe, just maybe, get all of your hopes up, take the nice things they say about you as hints of something more, think about the wonderful days ahead, and then be crushed, completely, with no hope of anything getting accomplished at all?
Well, fuck love. I reject it. The only thing keeping me warm this winter is my rage.
I wonder when the new boards will be up and running. I can't wait to have an entire section devoted to telling each other how pathetic we all are. ( ^_^)b
awesome...
Hello. I'd like to ask for some serious suggestions. I'm not sure how to explain this so I'll just start from the begining. About 2 years ago I met an amazing girl at my school. Lets just say her name is MD. I always noticed her around, but never had an opportunity to talk to her until one day I saw her talking to another one of my friends and joined their conversation. They were both Japanese, and I'm very interested in the culture, so I found it easy to find things to talk about. By the end of the conversation I had her email address, phone number, and I had made a friend. However, at the same time I was becoming close with one of her friends(we'll call her CT) who I thought I had a better chance with. Eventually, we started to date and all of us(me, CT, and MD) would hang out together often. The relationship with CT turned out to be a disaster. We fought nonstop and broke up countless times in less than a 6 month period. She would often be jealous of my freindship with MD which led to the end of their friendship. My feelings for MD began to grow more and more, so I finally gave up on my relationship with my CT. The day after I broke up with her, I found out MD got a boyfriend. I thought I was gonna die. Also at the same time, my brother left home with his girlfriend. I don't think I ever felt so lonely. Anyway, several months later I found out she broke up with her boyfriend. We were talking about it online, and as the conversation came to an end, she asked if I wanted to go see a movie. I really can't describe how happy that made me. After all my bad luck, it seemed things were turning around. I really thought I had a chance. I was soooo nervous though. I couldn't sleep, I couldn't eat, I did EVERYTHING possible to prepare for the day I would meet her. Finally that day came around. We saw the movie then ended up cooking something at my house. I was scared the whole time, so it wasn't the smoothest date ever (if you'd even consider it a date), but it still seems like a dream to me. however, it seems that as the day ended, so did my dream. I wrote her an email the next day thanking her for everything. It was days before I got a response. I would email her back, and it started taking longer and longer for responses. Finally It got to the point where I was going crazy. I had lost about 20 pounds at this point. She just didn't seem interested.... Finally I got an email from her saying that she was going back to Japan soon. I emailed her back asking to see her before she left. I never got a response.(btw, I only emailed because it was hard for her to understand me on the phone) The day she left, I stayed up all night hoping to see her online one last time so I could talk to her... at about 3 in the morning she signed on, but right away left. I felt like crap. I never cared for someone as much as I cared for her.. I really can't explain it. Well, a few months later I found out from a friend that she was comming back from Japan to take some more classes! I finally emailed her just to verify it but again got no repsonse. Now, I sometimes see her at school.. our eyes will meet, but quickly leave. We don't say anything to each other. I think it's been about 6 months since we've talked. Nowadays I see her online more often too, but I can't gather the courage to say anything. I don't know what to say. I don't understand why she stopped talking to me. As bad as the situation seems, I feel like I can't give up. I try to be interested in other girls, but my mind always goes back to MD. I'm sorry for such a long post, but to those who've taken the time to read it, any help would be more than apprecaited.
Sorry for your little drama (awesome), but, maybe she don't like you or maybe she know another person. If you tried talk to her for this, maybe she can explain you about your real feeling for you. If you don´t courage for asked her.. well.. it finished. I have an advise for you, 42, ask her.. you know, search a good moment and ask her.
If you want people to read what you write, please learn about paragraphs.
tl,dr
>>44
Could it be that the lack of paragraph breaks is what drove her away from him in the first place?
If that's the case, >>42, any girl that lets a few newlines every now and then get in the way of your undying love doesn't deserve you anyway! Go forth and find someone willing to toss away the rules of good grammar and readability with wild abandon for you. After all, love is illiterate!
Thanks for your response. I guess my biggest problem is that I just don't know what to say to her. I used to be able to talk to her so easily, but things are different now. I know that sounds pretty pathetic, but that's just how I feel.
Sorry about the lack of paragraphs. I didn't expect it to be that long. I'm also new this whole BBS thing so feel free to let me know if I'm doing something wrong.
Soo... what do I say? Should I just email her and take the risk of waiting? Or should I wait to catch her online? Doshio...
Sound like a "let it go" case to me.
If you can't, obviously the email route has failed.
Because she just broke up with her boyfriend, she was probably feeling vulnerable and in need of the company of a friend like you, which led to your date. I'm thinking that afterwards she realized she accidentally led you on, and is probably avoiding what she feels is inevitable: you confessing to her, and her friendship with you forever gone.
It would be nice if you got a hold of her, and asked her what's going on in her life: ask casual things, don't spring anything on her, and from this you can probably figure out how she feels.
I agree with >>48 that it'd be best to let this one go, but just talking to her and getting some closure would help.
"I guess my biggest problem is that I just don't know what to say to her"
Why?, she and you aren't friends now? .. DETAILS
I does sound like a "let it go case." I've tried to let it go.. but then I'll see her, or have a dream about her, then I'm back to feeling like I haven't moved on at all. I actually dreamt about her last night... Hence, I'm here.
Something about her just seems so different. I find myself to be a pretty carefree guy, but when it comes to her, I can't care enough. Does that makes sense? I mentioned before that the first time we went out together was to go to the movies. I don't think I could've done anything else to prepare for that day. I washed my car, made a music cd of songs we both like, cleaned my house, tried to get a tan, bought her a bamboo plant(since she seemed to be having bad luck lately), and also burned her some CDs of an anime she likes. I even made custom labels for the CDs on high quality photo paper. I really wanted it to be perfect, but maybe it was too much.... orz
Anyway, I think that if I don't do anything, I'll end up regretting it later. I'm gonna do all that I can.
I agree with you, >>49, that the casual approach is probably best. Maybe I should try to start the conversation casually, then lead it to my more serious questions.... what do you think?
I don't know what we are now. As I see it, there's no reason why we shouldn't be able to be friends. Things just started getting more akward as it took longer and longer to get a reply from her. I haven't even spoken to her since she's been back from Japan. I've seen her on campus.. our eyes will even meet.. but we quickly look the other way. I feel like i'm getting stabbed in the chest when that happends. It's a miserable feeling.
Thank you for your help everyone. Hearing your opinions really helps put things in perspective. I'll try to talk to her today. She should be on later. I'll let you all know what happends. I'll be checking the board throughout the day, so if there are any more suggestions, I'll be happy to hear them.
Hope things go well for you, whatever that needs to be.
Well It's 8:25 PM... still no sign of her.... orz
Girls are unpredictable... (I know, i'm a girl)
I'm starting to realize that...
It's now 2:20 AM and no luck as usual. I guess I'll just have to wait and see what happends tomorrow. Hopefully I'll have something more interesting to report later.
ehhh go to sleep, kid x-D.. calm down and listen, you have time to talk to her tomorrow, or later.. Are you there? ... yuuuhuuu
I took your advise 56. I should've set my alarm though. I just woke up and it's almost 1! (=_=)
Stay off the internet in your dealings with her, 42. Your friendship has cooled off to the point where it'll probably be as awkward as just before she went back to japan. You're going to have to start from square 1. The next time you see her in person and your eyes meet, force yourself to smile and not look away. Say hello. If she responds positively, make some chit chat, keep it strictly casual and keep it short. If not, let it go.
>>51
Maybe doing all those things was a bit much. As a guy, and hypothetically if I were a girl, I think that doing that much is too much and might scare her or something along those lines. Maybe she noticed you went through a bunch of trouble/work to do this for her and she is intimidated or something. Don't let me discourage you though - I'm still single ^^; If you don't act you'll maybe live in regret forever. Good luck!
I see your point... but I really don't think I can do it. orz
It also kinda seems like that approach might be uncomfortable for her too. Part of me thinks that maybe she feels guilty for not responding, and because it's been so long now, it's hard to reapproach me.
I guess it can seem kinda intimidating.. I just wanted to make her happy. A long time ago she would always call me "muri shiteru," which was basically saying that I was trying to hard.
One time she asked me for help on making a poster for a presentation in her public speaking class (I'm a CG artist). Her topic was Sushi, but I couldn't find any high res images, so I got a few of my hungry friends and we headed out to a Japanese restaurant. We ordered one of each kind of sushi needed for the poster and I had a little photo shoot right there at the counter. I made the poster, printed it on my boss' large format printer, then laminated it.
I met with her later to give it to her. It seemed like she really liked it! After that, she handed me a bag of food and said that she stopped at a japanese restaurant to get me dinner! I was so happy/nervous I kinda just said thank you and took off. When I got home I looked in the bag and noticed that there were 2 pairs of chopsticks!! Maybe it was meant for both of us to eat together! I felt so stupid... I didn't even think to ask if she wanted to eat together. To make it worse, the whole container was filled with sushi (the last thing I wanted to see after eating all that sushi earlier).
Anyway... still no sign of her. Sushi sounds kinda good about now... orz
hay guys, let's move this tread over to http://4-ch-net/love
>Anyway... still no sign of her.
Maybe she's put you on some sort of block list? Waiting for her for hours online really is trying too hard, dude.
>When I got home I looked in the bag and noticed that there were 2 pairs of chopsticks!!
Mental note: always open gifts when you get them. Take heart, maybe you'll prevent someone else on this board from making the same mistake!
I'm pretty sure that's not the case. I saw her online a few days prior to my post. And I'm staying busy... I'm not just staring at my monitor mindlessly waiting. (-_-;)
And yes... learn from my mistakes! Even if it wasn't meant for the both of us to share, it would've been a nice suggestion, ne?
hum... Write an e-mail? .. Romantic E-Mail!
Notice to single males!
Don't be creepy! My roommate and I were walking to the door of our apartment one day. Suddenly, looking through the window at my roommate was this guy we know. "Oh god," she said, and after meeting his gaze we then ignored him. Then, as she was unlocking the door, I looked over her shoulder...
and he was still staring
He was looking from HIS window, not ours, btw
An email, eh? That sounds good.. buuut I think I have a better chance of getting a response talking through MSN (or at least I wont have to wait as long). Although an email would seem more considerate. What does everyone else think about that?
I don't think I'm that bad. Would it've been a different story if it was someone you liked?
Only you need its an excuse to talk to her, well, write an e-mail and tell her : Mommy, you are the best. Give me you soul and give me alone for my sweet home, baby.. Yeeeeeeeeah..
Then, she hates you and maybe look at you for kill you. This is the perfect moment!! and You can talk about us (while she strikes you).
Ohhhh, how sweet love ( ^A^)
>>67 Are you saying you do this? wow!
Actually, I never noticed his stalker-behavior until the roommate mentioned it one day. (Although he is a bit of a hikki.)
She complains all the time about him in private, but then when he tries to hang around her she doesn't dissuade him. I asked her why, and she said that because he is infatuated with her, it is easy to "use" him in situations where she needs a ride, or needs someone to dump all her stress on, without a real emotional tie ever forming.
I was shocked o_o
Watch out, single males! Girls are as evil as you are!
>>69
That doesn't surprise me at all.
the 'girls = evil' formula is well known.
" I have a better chance of getting a response talking through MSN "
Are you "MSN Otoko"? ... Well, now you are MSN Otoko.
MSN Otoko, your story wrenched at my heart. You are a very lucky man. Now, for my advice.
You are already doing this, but all I can say is that you have to casually speak to her online. After talking to her once or twice, if things seem to be going well, ask her to go to a japanese restraunt or something she enjoys - but don't over do it like you did before.
Don't ask her the first time you talk. Be sure to weave your way back to being friends, and not to rush things. And be sure to keep us updated, Densha wannabe!
<3 MSN OTOKO!
MSN Otoko? ... I don't know what to say... but I'm honored
m(_ _)m
>>75
Thank you... I really haven't felt this motivated in a long time. Now I just need a chance to talk to her! Hopefully she'll be online sometime over the weekend. And I'll keep it casual. Thank you!!
I'll keep you all posted on any developments!
>>75 you right.
MSN otoko, can you ask her to go a restaurant or something, but MSN Otoko, if you ask her for your phone number, and call her... It's better than messenger chat. It's more intimate and listen her voice.. more romantic, more close.
<3 <3 <3 <3 ((( ( *^A^) ))) <3 <3 <3 <3
This is getting blown out of proportion, I think.
>>77
But again, don't ask for her number the first time you talk.
>>79
we're just having fun, but in all honesty, it's really exciting, and I am interested in what happens.
This rant thread is getting pretty interesting...
GO MSN OTOKO! ~ ~ this is like Densha Otoko! I like it!!!!
We need to go out and get into wacky situations in order to produce more fodder for this thread.
What is with all the advice about romantic things? They are past that point. Now, instead of trying to make idle chit chat and calling her, he needs to go straight to the issue and ask her what happened; Why she stopped being friends with him.
On another note, you need to stop obsessing over Japan. It's just another country, and it has its fair share of serious problems. If you ever hope to be more social you'll need to find some new hobbies to add to your life.
Oh also: Benooooooist!
Like >>58 said, next time you see her you must try to communicate with her. At least try to smile and wave. I know you said you can't but if she doesn't respond to email or get online, how else can you talk to her? Also, looking away or pretending not to see her is a sign that she might misread. She might think that you no longer consider her a friend.
>>85 >They are past that point.
I thought he was still waiting to make contact. As far as I can tell, their friendship is in a hazy limbo right now and saying the wrong thing at the wrong time(especially in his current semi-obsessive state) could friendzone him for good or worse.
>>88, I'm saying they are way past dating. maybe after he gets some answers and they talk about what happened they can repair things, but he shouldn't be thinking about how to smooth his way back in. Why is everyone only thinking this way?
oops, that was me.
>>85, Japan is superior, don't you know?
and anyway, MSN Otoko seems sort of shy. To the person that said call her, didn't he already say they had a hard time talking on the phone because of the fact that she couldn't understand him well? She is from Japan, and from my personal experince, phone conversations with native japanese are not too easy.
And anyways, >>85, that's probably being to blunt. like i just said, she's japanese. I know its a generalization but i've been studying japan and it's culture for six years, and i've stayed there for months at a time, and know many japanese people - bluntness is not the way to go.
It's like going up to someone you KNOW is a hardcore gangsta in a van with a bunch of flowers on it while cranking Puffy AmiYumi, pulling up and being like "What is up sir nigger, do you have any crack?" It's just something you don't do.
So, in conclusion, MSN Otoko just has to wait. Please keep us updated.
>>89 Passed dating? They haven't talked in months.
>>89 They had exactly one date, after which they had next to no interaction. Wait a minute... MSN, you didn't get drunk and do something you don't remember did you? >(
>>93
If you can even call it a date, all they did was see a movie. I'd consider it a date but from the way it sounds they didn't.
>>95
The ship of coupling? They haven't talked for months and they're in an awkward position. For all MSN knows, she completly forgot he existed. There's no way he can just go up to her and be like "hey, baby, let's go out 8-)". He's gotta slowly get himself back into her life and then ask. Like you said, no answer without asking, however he can't ask immediatly or it surely won't work. He DOES have to woo her back.
That's what I think, anyway.
>>95
I don't think anyone expects them to immediately jump in the sack. Most of the advice has centered around just getting to the point where he can talk to her to find out how she feels.
Even if there is no hope of MSN and this girl, which is not what I'm saying, he should talk to her so he can get some closure and be able to move on. I'm not suggesting this exactly, but if next time he meets her he could get straight to the point and tell her how he feels. He can be quickly rejected, feel like crap for a while, then move on and be able to think about other girls. That's my get this over quick scenario. Truthfully I hope for something better.
I'm back.. it was a long day. But wow, I can't believe how many new posts there are. Seeing them all made my day. Thank you, everyone!
Well... First I'll update you all on last night. Right after I made my last post (my first post as MSN Otoko), I decided to go to bed. About 5 minutes later, I heard the sound effect that MSN plays when someone comes online. It didn't really phase me at first, but then I realized that it could be her! So I jumped out of bed and checked... and there she was! But in that instant it felt like all my courage just disappeared. I couldn't do anything.... I was so nervous I was shaking...
orz
Anyway, after a few minutes she was gone. I don't get it.. I was so motivated, but as soon as I got a chance, I couldn't do anything. Blah. I hate this feeling.
... with that said.. I'll reply to some of the posts.
Actually, >>85, I was planning on taking your approach. But then I realized that they only thing I could get from that approach is an answer. I'd find out why she's been acting the way she has. But that's not what I really want.. what I want is to be with her. So I think casual and slow will be best. I may not get an answer right away, but I think my chances will be better in getting what I really want.
hey, MSN, i was about to go to bed but refereshed the thread real fast.
I'm honestly kind of disappointed in you for not speaking to her. However, I completly understand your feeling. Perhaps a few of us (or just me, I have the time this time of year) should stay up with you one or two nights untill she comes online, and give you advice real-time. That might be taking this a little too far, but I think it'd be fun, and more important, a great help to you. And so if you're waiting one night, post here, and I'll be sure to stay updated.
Also, while I do see the point of >>85's approach, I am glad you've made the decision to take it slowly. I feel this will make you guys more comfortable before diving right into the subject.
If she does come online again, just say "hey" before you have a chance to stop yourself - think about it, in your current position, what have you got to lose? No matter how much you freak out in real life, you can still keep your cool in an MSN window.
p.s. congrats on 100get
" No matter how much you freak out in real life, you can still keep your cool in an MSN window " >>101
Right, MSN Otoko, is more confortable to you do this kind of thinks. When she come back OnLine you can write her : 'Hi..' or 'Hi -here her name-' that's all, she look the message and you wait..
>>91
good points..
>>93-94
Well it was a little more than a movie. Hmm.. I never really elaborated on what happend that day.. I'll post more details on that tomorrow. Gomen, I'm kinda tired tonight.
>>101
It really means a lot that you'd be willing to help me like that (in real-time). Thank you!! m(_ _)m
I'm kinda suspecting she'll be on tomorrow.. so I'm gonna try then.
I'm exhausted (=_= ) So I'm going to call it a night.
Thank you again, everyone.
gambate ne :)
Such a sad thread D:
I'm certainly not the greatest looking or most popular male in the world, but I’ve managed to have a girlfriend for most of my adult life. I break up with one, and a few months later get another. I can't imagine being single for an extended period of time :\
I think the general problem here is that you all just don't make an effort. They're not going to just fall into your lap, girls are like anything else in life, you must work to get one :D.
Also, it helps if you stay within your league. I understand that I’m not going to be able to date the captain of the cheerleading squad, so I don't bother :\. If you try to get with a girl who is stuck up and popular, you'll get nowhere. Go for the fujoshis >_>;;
>>104 Theres more? I thought it was a situation where you took going to see a movie as something special and scared her away.
From what you should have learned, if you watched Densha Otoko, was making an effort is important and never give up hope. Recall what you and your gf met on the first day, how hard you were trying on those days
>>100 "I think casual and slow will be best. I may not get an answer right away, but I think my chances will be better in getting what I really want."
She's already made up her mind about her feelings about you. Based on what you've told us I don't think she's going to feel comfortable enough around you to just chit chat. Once you find out the problem, then you can focus on fixing it, not the other way around.
>>110
Gordy, I can't change your opinion on this but I can talk to MSN about it.
What Gordy just said does make a lot of sense, but that's really being too blunt and, well, not very curtious. I know we've already discussed this, but the way I see it, it would be very rude for you to just go up to her and be like "Hey. Why'd we stop talking?" That might just be me, but it seems rude, and like it won't get anywhere.
Then again, thinking about it more, it might get more than idle chat. I suggest something like "Hey, remember me? how've you been doing lately?" or something. And then just work off whatever she says, and then when the time is right, bring it up.
This is getting repetitive, so Gordy, you and I will just have to wait and see what he does. I think he understands his options now, and it'd be best for him to figure out which will work better. Whatever method he takes, let's hope for the best.
I'm pretty sure I'm gonna stick to what I said in >>100, Gordy. I think asking her like that might make her feel kinda threatened and guilty. Even if she doesn't want to be with me, I wouldn't want her to feel that. However, I appreciate you sharing your thoughts.
Well, I'm gonna hang out with some friends tonight. I'm hoping to see her on later... so tonight could be the night it happends! (O_O) I'll post when I get home.
This will end in tears. Just fyi
>>107
Maybe you're just a friendly person. I can't imagine dating for an extended period of time. :\
DETAILS!
Sorry for the wait everyone.. ok.. here's what happend that day
Well the whole idea began one day while were talking online. She was telling me about her brake up with her boyfriend. We talked for probably a good hour. Right before she was about to leave, she asked if I wanted to go see a movie with her! At first it was almost kind of hard to believe. I really wasn't expecting anything like that! So of course I said yes, and we planned a day.
As I mentioned before (>>51), I did EVERYTHING I could think of to prepare. I was a mess. I was eating anti acid tablets like there was no tomorrow. I couldn't even sleep (something that's usually never a problem for me). Anyway, I got to her apartment about 10 minutes early. As I waited in the parking lot, every little possible thing that could go wrong was flashing in my head. Did I have the right place? Does she even really want to go? Then I noticed her from the corner of my eye. For a while I was to scared to even raise my head... she looked so beautiful. Finally I looked up, greeted her, and gave her the plant. She seemed pretty surprised/happy about it! She was also kinda excited to see my car (It was pretty new then).
As we drove to the theater, she noticed my car had a stick shift. She was curious about it, so I tried my best to explain to her how it all worked. Eventually, I was having her change the gears for me. Sometimes she would be confused and not know what to do, so I put my hand on hers and helped her guide it. As good as it seemed.. it was nothing more than that. orz
Hmm.. there's not much to say about what happend at the theater. One thing that was kinda nice though was that when we sat down, she didn't put the arm rest down that would've separated us. Besides that, we didn't really say anything during the movie. I was pretty nervous even while just sitting there. I found that I really had to focus just to be able to follow what was happening in the movie. Thinking back, the movie was kind of a blur.
Afterwards, we tried to think of somewhere to eat. I had a few places in mind, but she said they were kind of expensive for her. I told her not to worry about it, but she seemed sort of uncomfortable about me paying, so we agreed that we'd just cook something! We headed back to her apartment to get some ingredients, then went to my house.
She decided to make oyakodon and started cooking right away. I did what I could to help, then just watched her. It made me so happy just to think she there was with me, in my kitchen, cooking something for me. It felt like a dream. I wished that everyday would be like that.
When we sat down to eat, I lit a candle that was at the center of the table. I felt a little akward doing it, so I tried to play it off as nonchalant as possible. Anyway, the oyakodon was really good! Although, I was so nervous that it was kind of hard to eat. Afterwards, she showed me some pictures she had in her purse of her and her friends from Japan. One was a purikura, and I noticed she had some extras, so I asked if I could have one... I've kept it in my wallet ever since. After we had looked through the pictures, she pulled out a card from the pile. As I took a look at the card, I noticed that it was my business card that I gave her on the day we met!! I couldn't believe she still had it! (T_T)
After that we watched some videos she brought of a japanese group called L'Arc-en-Ciel. Aaaand.. that was pretty much it. I drove her home, thanked her for everything, walked her to her door(she seemed kinda confused about me doing this), and that was the end.
hmmmm.... I think I might have made it seem better than it actually was. I'm not saying that I didn't enjoy it.. to me it was like a dream. But... I was really nervous the whole time.. so I think a few times became kind of akward.. orz
So.. that was the first time we went out. That was about 6 months ago now. We got together one more time after I gave her the poster (i wrote a little bit about it at >>60) and that was the last time. I'll tell more about that in another post.
Anyway, It's been a few days now since I've been waiting to see her online. But I'm not gonna give up! I have no plans tomorrow besides to do a little work (which I do on my computer anyway), so I'm gonna try to stay up and wait for her. I could really use the help if anybody's willing!
aah... sorry for such a long post!
awesome.... (O_O)'
OMG, it's actually happening in real life, right in front of my very eyes
I never thought I'd see the day
BENOIST!
Hm, my reply got deleted or something
Oh well, good luck anyway
>>120
It's not really happenning yet. We're still waiting for him to make the first move. Personally, I think trying to find her online is too much of a bother. He should go for it the next time he sees her in person.
So MSN, are you a geek-type or more of a normal person?
Considering you said you used to hang out with her as a friend when you were dating her friend, it seems pretty likely to me she asked you out just to hang out as a friend again. She probably realized you liked her and got kind of weirded out since she meant it to be just hanging out like old times.
I know this has happened to me, where I thought I was going to hang out with a guy as a friend, and he suddenly was trying to act all smooth. I felt like I was tricked into going on a date. She didn't really have any way to turn you down since you never asked her out, so she avoided you. I've been in the same situation myself... orz
Sorry if that seemed harsh, you seem like a nice guy, just giving my point of view.
I guess a little of both... although I'd say my normal side is more dominant. I am into anime/games, but I wouldn't say it's an otaku level.. I don't think anyone would guess I was otaku by looking at me.
I appreciate you sharing that. It does seem like that's a likely reason.. but whatever the case is, I'm not gonna give up this time. I gotta do it.... even if it's as bad as it seems.. orz
Well, I'm gonna go get some dinner. When I get back I plan to stay up and wait. Anyone want to join me? (^_^;)
We're behind you, MSN Otoko!
Everyone stay awake! BENOIST!
Hooray! I'm not the only one!
You still there, MSN? :/
What time is it over there, anyway?
yeah i'll up for a while~
I'm back! Sorry, took longer than I expected. Anyway, no sign of her yet... anybody still awake?
Just woke up - it's 10:48 over here.
5:28 AM, still awake
13:04pm in spain, i'm still awake ( ¡^_^)
hello my name is alex
Everybody go to sleep ? .. hello.. mochi mochi...
orz. I'm alone.. :(
No you're not~
yes, i'm sure...
aah... I fell asleep too early.. orz
I think I knocked out sometime around 3. Sorry eveyone. But thank you for trying to stay up with me. I'm gonna try again tonight... this time with coffee. \(`ヘ´)/
Anyway, as I mentioned at the end of >>117, I have one more story.. this happend after I gave her the poster.
To thank me for making her the poster, she said she was gonna cook dinner for me again! Like last time, I was a disaster. This time even more so because I decided that I would tell her my feelings. I had a little note in my pocket of what I planned to say to her. Whenever I used the bathroom or had a moment to myself, I'd pull it out and review what I wrote.
She came over later in the evening. I noticed that I never forget that first glimpse I get of her. It's like everytime I see her, I'm amazed at how beautiful she is. At that moment all my senses become amplified, and I suddenly become overly conscious of everything.. like how I walk, how I talk, even how I breathe. In other words, I get really nervous. She came inside and began cooking. We decided that this time we'd watch a movie while we ate. Afterwards, we sat around my room and talked about different things. Mainly, an anime we were both interested in. That was probably one of the more casual conversations we had in a long time. (^_^;)
After that she said she was going home. As I walked her to her car, I could feel the note crinkling in my pocket. Everything seemed to be in slow motion as I tryed to say something..... but I couldn't. When she got to her car, she said bye, and all I could say back was bye. I went back inside and just fell on my bed. I was so dissapointed in myself. orz
So... that was the last time we met. I wrote to her afterwards, but rarely got a response. I finally sent another email a few weeks later, and she responded telling me that she was going back to Japan soon. I wrote back asking to see her before she left, but again didn't get a response. I stayed up all night the day before she was supposed to leave hoping to have one last chance to tell her how I felt. She actually did come online too.. but it was only for a few seconds.. I didn't have time to say anything. At that point I kind of just accepted failure. I thought it was all over. Then after a few months passed, I heard from a friend that she was back! It kind of seemed like a miracle... I was given another chance! So as bad as it all seems, I'm not gonna accept failure this time. I'll do whatever it takes.. and in the end, she'll at least know how I feel about her.
Sooo, that basically brings us to the present time. Well I'm gonna do a little work now. But I'll keep you all posted!
Hello, MSN Otoko. I usually lurk here but...I feel so honoured to be part of a thread like this! BENOIST!
lol, I'm still awake!
Hey MSN. Man, I was scared I misses something. I'll be staying up with you now. I had been following this thread before but had computer troubles over the weekend and thought you may have already made your move. Well, 11:33pm, and I should be up a long time, so let's hope tonight ends well.
I'm torrenting Densha Otoko Ep. 11 right now! (^A^)
>>145
you spelled your name wrong
>>142
Thank you! but really, I'm the one who's honored m(_ _)m
>>144
fingers crossed
I've been thinking though... I've swore to myself that I'd talk to her the next time I have a chance... but I still don't really know what to say! "hey, how've you been?" "hey, it's been awhile." Ehhh.. sounds kinda boring. Any suggestions??
I've been in your exact position before and I started it off with a simple "sup"
Worked for me
really? hmm... that doesn't seem like something I'd say though..
i don't think he meant that literally, just a simple "hey" is fine. Something like what you said - "hey, how're you doing?" or "hi, how've you been lately?"
I think the first line should just be "hey" or "hi". Hello sounds a bit weird to me right now, I'm not sure why. After you get a response, "how've you been?"
I see... I'll do that then. I guess I'm just thinking too much (@_@;)
i wish to go to sleep but i want to stay up with high hopes... what time is it there, MSN?
>>151
yeah, there isn't much more you can do...
something like "hey, it's been a long time, how've you been?" could also work....
but laying it on too thick and putting her in an awkward position is obviously not good. I think something simple is best. What does everyone else say (if you're still awake)?
It's almost 1 here. It seems kinda weird to wait up this late, but I remember in the past seeing her on a lot around 2. So I'm gonna wait till at least then. But if you're tired, please get some rest. It already means a lot that you've stayed up this late. If anything happends, you'll find it here when you wake up. (^_~)
if i miss it i'm going to orz for the rest of my life.
so, i'll stay up. there's a nice OS-tan sticky on /b/ right now anyway, so i've gotta finish getting it.
lalala
well, goodnight msn. sorry, but i have to be up soon, so i'm going to bed. I'll be glad to stay up again later, though. if you're up to it we can try again tomorrow! Otherwise, let me know when is good - i'm usually awake anyway, but post back here just in case.
Night.
I'm a girl and maybe i'm wrong.. but, if her go to your home and cooking again for you MSN , i mean, she could have expected for something happen and MSN Otoko do nothing, don't tell her nothing or kiss her. You know, the first move.. maybe she leave you thinking: I don't like him, or, something else and return to Japan angry..
MSN Otoko, gambatte, don't worry and cut the ice between she and you, do the first move MSN. Tell her something and cut the ice..
Gambatte !
I think you may need to give us an idea of what times you're going to be waiting for, either by the board clock or GMT.
CALL HER.
BENOIST!!! :D
Seriously, stop waiting for her on MSN. She is hardly online. Call her.
Calling was the first stop for Densha, you do it too, dammit!
I may be wrong, but I think it is a good idea to let her know you are interested without telling her directly.
CALL HER.
anybody here?..
I am.
I was waiting here for MSN and more details for this thread, but.. i'm tired guys, i'm go to sleep. Tomorrow tell me what happen with this tale.
Hey!, this girl no have a nick or something ?.. I mean for this , and i believe for create one nick for her.
>>163
I agree. Waiting for her to appear on MSN is lame. MSN CALL HER!
Hey everyone. Well, no luck again last night. orz. But thank you everybody for sticking with me.
Unfortunately I don't have her number anymore.
When she left for Japan, she wasn't planning on coming back, so she got rid of her cell. Now that she's back she probably has one, but I don't have the number...
A call would be difficult for me anyway.. I think I'll have a hard enough time just holding on to enough courage to message her. I'm keeping the birthday present she got me on my desk to keep me encouraged. It's a winnie the pooh mug and a small winnie the pooh stuffed animal which is sitting inside it. I'll never forget when she gave it to me.. she said these kinds of things are what a girlfriend would usually give to her boyfriend. I honestly don't think she was implying anything by it, but I always enjoyed the thought (^_^;)
Well, I'm off to a class. I'll be back later!
i wish something would happen here...
You can't wait for her online forever. Since you don't have her phone number, you should really consider saying hello in person.
SHES ON!!!! ANYONE HERE??
..... and she's gone......................
I can't believe it.. I ate dinner, then checked and she was on! so I came back here to post, went back and it was too late........
orz x 100...................
Well next time maybe talk to her before you post here!! Good luck.....
good work dude
don't let the sarcastic tone of the last two bother you, it's okay.
There's always next time. She seems to come and go fast, so make a quick move. Also, I agree with >>159. I had fallen asleep and just woke up, but I think I'm going to go to bed again. Good luck, MSN. I'll be behind you.
SEND E-MAIL.
Please?
>>178
He don't send an e-mail to her because, she don't answer him.. of course 178 you idea is good, and i think MSN write one to WINNIE.. but.. he is so timid... :-/
That's why we like him
"Winnie"... so, that's what we're calling her now?
Well, it's been a while since he sent an e-mail isn't it? Like, just before she went to Japan.
I say e-mail her, and if she doesn't respond, talk to her in real life or MSN.
This is probably the first time I've ever posted a serious post here on 4-ch. I don't really have a lot of experience with this kind of thing, so it's kind of like the blind leading the blind. But, don't wait too long to try and contact her. I once waited too long to just talk to this one girl that I liked and one day I found out that she just got a boyfriend. orz. At any rate, don't mean to scare you, MSN, but if you truly want Winnie, you have to take the initiative. Otherwise, it's all for naught.
---BenoistYes, man! The longer the silence lasts, the more awkward it gets.
So here's a scenario: Maybe she feels kinda like you do. Maybe she logs on for a short period to try and contact you, or see if you contact her. If two people look at each other, and then look away, they probably feel the same about each other.
I don't know. Just make yourself push three buttons on your keyboard the next time you see her on MSN next time. H, I, and Enter.
H + I + enter !!!!
H + I + enter !!!!
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MSN.. ganbatte
Thanks for your support everyone m(_ _)m
This time I'm prepared.. I know what I'm going to say.. so as soon as I see her on, I'll say it... + enter
yeeehaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa
GANBARE~~~!! DENSH...er...MSN!!!
MSN Otoko, tell me.. how does her look like? is she beautiful? ... tell us.. please, details
She's really beautiful... unbelievably beautiful. She's about average height, her hair goes slighty past her shoulders, she's very slender.... to me she's perfect. Words alone don't give her justice.
Just thinking about her makes me smile （´∀｀）
such a women... you are lucky to even have the chance to talk to such a girl!!!
You just described Hermes PERFECTLY. I sense a conspiracy!
you fail to mention tits, legs or face
dude, is she ugly?
What's her personality like? How does she carry herself? Is she outgoing, a wallflower?
>>204
Hmm.. more details.. well like I said before she's slender, she's got a cute, round face with beautiful eyes and a small nose.
Her legs? hmm.. how do you describe legs?
I feel like I can't describe much more without being vulgar... I think I summed it up best in >>201 with "unbelievably beautiful." There's nothing about her I don't like. Let your imagination do the rest (^_^;)
>>205
Winnie-san's more of the outgoing type... but at the same time she can be very sweet. She seems very confident in herself. She's funny, and she's got a great smile and laugh. For a while, we would talk everynight, sometimes for hours just laughing at random stuff. I love her sense of humor.
aaah.... thiking about those times has made me realize how much it's changed... I miss her.. orz
Winnie makes my heart go haa~haa~...
Don't lose heart now, MSN! You're going to need all of your courage if she shows. Remember your new mantra!
what a lucky man....
MSN, you have to get this!! I will do whatever it takes to make sure this ends well! No matter what!
She went to cook to your house, definitively I believe that your it liked her. when not confessing your feelings she left gotten upset. is possible that she decided to forget you and for that reason no longer responds to you. You must demonstrate her that that is not truth, and that you want to return to have its friendship
MSN!!! NEVER GIVE UP! BENOIST!!!
Hey MSN, my question is: What sort of hair-style does she have? What colour is it?
Hello 4ch. Recently i have been engaged in the subjects discussed in this thread. I just couldn't help on reacting when reading MSN Otoko's story.
I think you are making it worse than it is. I don't have a girlfriend and probably never will, but reading this just makes me sad. If i had this opportunity, i wouldn't let it go to waste like you are. Do you honestly think Winnie-san will show up on MSN? The least thing you could do was to confront her person to person. Please don't let this go to waste.
Me being an otaku in all it's glosy (...) it makes me feel bad. If i just got the slightest chance of talking to a girl at a level beyond "friend" that would make me happy and i would put alot of effort into making it work.
Ganbareeeeeeeeeeeeeee MSN OTOKO!
>>212, I couldn't have put it better myself. More Sacred Words have never been spoken, probably, and I can relate.
Good luck, MSN-kun.
>let it go to waste like you are.
Shut it. He and the girl are both in an awkward position and he's trying to make it work again.
In my opinion, MSN is a lot braver than a lot of us here. (At least, braver than me...orz) Even in such an awkward situation he is actually willing to talk to Winnie-san online. That's a pretty big step to go from not talking at all and not talking face-to-face to talking online.
MSN, I know somewhere in the bottom of my heart that you have it in you to get back with Winnie-san. You may not know what "it" is , but when the time comes, you'll know. Good luck and BENOIST!!!
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I know I could never do this, which I why I'm supporting MSN. Online conversations are commonplace anymore, basically the same as speaking over a phone, really. I truly wish MSN could go to her in person, and I truly wish he could do this all so easily.
But there's something we must all remember when thinking about how this unfolds and how it relates to whatever we're drawing inspiration from. Namely, and obviously, when people read this, they will think "Densha Otoko rip-off." But this is not densha, we are only saying that because we have seen the show and it relates to our culture - this is an entirely different story - and, one that began a lot differently to.
In Densha Otoko, it was obvious that Saori wanted Yamada from the onset. However, in this, we are unsure of their current status and must take things slowly to understand where it stands on how Winnie feels about MSN.
I do wish they could speak IRL, but I don't think that's the best course of action right now. He isn't "wasting" it, he's preserving it and going very cautiously. If he spoke to her directly and immediatly, yes, it might be a miracle and work - however at the same time, it could end in misery, and be the true "waste." The way we're going now takes a lot longer, and doesn't seem as effective, but in the end, it's almost a guarantee we can get them to be happy together, as long as we all work hard and guide MSN correctly. We need to stand as one, and hope that MSN isn't a total retard - which he isn't. It might take some bullshitting and a lot of time, but we can pull through this so long as we don't rush things and continue supporting him.
That's what I think.
I'm not saying he might not be in an akward position. But as he told us, communication over MSN isn't possible as it seems. No matter what you say about "the modern way of communicating" MSN will always be a passive communication system. The chance of him getting the chance to talk to the girl seems pretty slim if you look at the previous results of his attempts to establish contact with her.
Therefore, MSN otoko, PHONE!
>>216
Well said. At the beginning I thought this was just a copycat thread of Densha Otoko. But after reading the thread again-and-again, I realized that this thread is more realistic than Densha. MSN is a real person with a real dilemma that he is overcoming at a realistic pace.
And with that, I wish you much luck, MSN! And BENOIST!!!
>>216
I totally disagree. Going slow is not the way to go.
MSN had a past relationship with Winnie. They used to be friends. Now he has nothing. She won't even reply to his email. Why is the situation like this? Maybe he creeped her out. Maybe she detected that he liked her but then thought of him as a coward for not doing anything about it. Or maybe she had feeling for him beyond friendship but when he was too slow to make a move she decided she must forget him. Who knows?
I just have a gut feeling that if he goes too slowly, she will push him away.
MSN, I am rooting for you. Muster your courage and go for it!
I'm beggining to feel like we're pulling him in too many directions.
CALL HER!
WAIT FOR HER!
SEE HER IN PERSON!
This isn't what we should be doing. MSN has made up his mind that he's going to talk to her on MSN. Fuck, that's why he's called MSN. I would love to band together with everyone and be united, however we simply aren't helping debating over something he's already decided. I would say, help him and support his decisions or leave this thread. I wish for you all to help support him, and you are doing so with your input (which is all very good), but the input isn't needed right now. I want him to call her as much as the next person, and I want him to go up and be like "huhuhuh hey babe lets have sex now k" but that's not how this is going to work, unless MSN changes his mind drastically.
I hate to be so blunt, but: Support or leave. I already said this once, but this isn't Densha Otoko. He doesn't have to muster courage except to H + I ENTER which he will do with only our support of him doing so - not us telling him to do something else. He needs to be a part of her life again, and things like that don't happen overnight.
Read the thread, you morons who think he should call!
Let's continue the H + I + ENTER cheer!
Hey everyone.... I'm sorry to hear about the dispute... but I got some good news!!
I finally talked to her!!!!
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what happened!? Tell us!
gah i can't take this suspense, msn. why didn't you give a detailed post! I was about to go to sleep, too! Come on!
What happened?
Good news?
That means something good happened! I can sleep peacefully.
I don't know any emoticons that can express my happiness!
It wasn't easy though... I got home today around 2ish, sat down at my computer, opened MSN, and there she was! It must've been about five minutes after that before I could do anything... Finally, I double clicked on her name and started typing. Using only my index fingers, I carefully typed out the message. Then came the hardest part... pressing enter. I was so nervous... my hands were ice cold.. I felt sick.. so I came to this thread and started reading through everyones posts. Doing that gave a quick rush of courage, so I went back to the MSN window and hit ENTER!
She responded right away! My heart was beating like crazy!
The conversation was overall casual... although it would always take me several minutes to reply. She explained to me that she wanted to transfer to another college in the U.S. after spending about a year back in Japan, but she found out that she couldn't return with her student visa if she was out of the country for more than 5 months. So, that's why she came back! We talked about a few other things, then I suggested that we get together sometime to catch up on things. She said sure, gave me her phone number, and said to just call her or email her!
I'd say the coversation was pretty normal... but that alone was a huge step for me! Thank you so much everybody! I REALLY couldn't have done it without you all!! m(_ _)m
Now I just have to think of something we can do together... today was a big step... but it's really just the begining
ｷﾀ━━━━━━(ﾟ∀ﾟ)━━━━━━ !!!!!
ｷﾀ━━━━━━(ﾟ∀ﾟ)━━━━━━ !!!!!
ｷﾀ━━━━━━(ﾟ∀ﾟ)━━━━━━ !!!!!
yes, yes, yes, yes!
what to do, what to do...
What are her interests? While hanging out with you, your ex-girlfriend, and winnie, where did you go? What does she like? Is another movie not good? There's nothing good playing in the U.S. anyway. What about a restraunt? maybe just a walk in a nature area? What kind of things would be good??? I've never been on a real date before, so I wouldn't know such things... I am so excited...
I'll be back tomorrow morning! MSN, you've done it!
Congratulations!
WAIT A MINUTE, WAIT A MINUTE!!!! ORZ!
This is too much..
MSN, if she give you your cell phone , your email.. of course, THE SECOND MOVE BEGINING. The first was "h+i+enter"...
Second Move: email her (a few days), some casual email. You know: Hi Winnie, blablablalbla... and.. well.. i was thinking call you , but i don't know what time is good for call. I don't have bother you... and blablablablabla... Ok, good.. i call 'this day', or someone else... be casual.
Third Move: Call her.. MWUAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!!!
Of, course you directly pass to the third.
Let talk to her in MSN. Do you have a web cam? (hehehehehe)
Ganbatte!
YE━━━━━━(ﾟ∀ﾟ)━━━━━━SS !!!!!
MSN worried too much, and then he BROKE THE WALL OF SILENCE WITH A SWIFT TAP ON A BUTTON!
Hooray*!!*
Hooray !!
... i mean.
Yeah MSN! You must be feeling so good right now! HAPPY HAPPY!
ｷﾀ━━━━━━(ﾟ∀ﾟ)━━━━━━ !!!!!
You've definitely leveled up!
>I suggested that we get together sometime to catch up on things. She said sure, gave me her phone number, and said to just call her or email her!
>Now I just have to think of something we can do together
Don't get cocky yet. If you overthink this or overprepare for it, you'll end up all nervous like in the movie thing again. Just pick someplace quiet where you can talk with her. Refrain from bringing her any gifts. If you must, then just one small one. You want to avoid overwhelming her all of a sudden.
OMFG! HE DID IT! HE DID ITdkfjgdljbg;felgk'fjgp;!!! BENOIST!!! YOU GO MSN!
In apology for >>235, I will now post something that doesn't sound stupid.
MSN, congratulations on talking to Winnie. It went better than I expected. You got her e-mail and phone number all in one go. In that aspect, you have surpassed me on every level. Good job.
However, don't get too cocky just because she gave you the tools. A well-armed general often finds himself overwhelmed unless he has a strategy to back up those arms. I agree with >>233 and >>228 on the strategy. And with that, I say good luck and Benoist.
Great job MSN Otoko. Good thing the MSN solution worked. It sure looked dark back there. Please keep us posted on further happenings.
Yes, MSN, what the posters above me have said is true. Do not rush things because step #1 was such a success. However... the fact that she ggave you contact information... remember that this means she is interested in talking to you again - especially since you have two options of talking to her! GO, MSN OTOKO! BENOIST!!!!!
Bah, this MSN Otoko stuff is bull. Just some troll trying to rip off Denska Otoko.
So what few other things did you talk about? Did you pick out a place yet?
>>240
While this does sound a lot like Densha Otoko, it is not MSN who is imitating Densha, it is we who are making it sound like Densha. While I can see where your coming from, the way you deliver your message makes you sound like the troll.
---Respectfully,
BenoistI'm back. First of all, I know I say it a lot, but thank you again everybody.
Well I read all of your posts.. I agree that I should definitely take it slow this time. aaah... but I can tell I'm already starting to over think. My happiness is already becoming shadowed by my fear. I went to bad last night thinking that I'd have no problem sleeping.. but I ended up just lying there as my mind ran with all kinds of thoughts.. most of them not good.
I don't understand why this is all so hard. Like I said before... I'm usually a pretty carefree guy.. but with her I can't care enough.
Anyway, I've been thinking all day about what we could do together. Lately, my friends and I have been having barbecues at my house.. maybe I should have one and invite her over? The only problem is that it's starting to get kinda cold out. Or maybe just go get some coffee? I could really use help on this one!
It's definitely too cold for barbecues by now, and inviting her to your place would be pushing it a lot. Coffee's good. Is there a place she likes? Try to find one where you won't be alone, but where it won't be crowded and loud.
Yeah try to do something like coffee or even nice hot chocolate in this weather. Something where you can actually talk, unlike a movie.
You are from the US, right? Thanksgiving break is coming up so you should have plenty of time to hang out over the next week.
>>245 is correct! Don't invite her over. And barbecue with friends? No. It has to be just you and her, unless she decides to bring a friend, of course.
I think that coffee is the best way to go. A movie is out of the question. Going to your house is a very bad move. Other choices are lame.
Choose a casual place. Just a normal coffee shop, like >>245 has said.
Don't go to any really formal restraunts.
Report back, MSN.
>>245 I agree..
BBQ ?.... (no comments)
A coffee date sound graet or movie.. what type of movie she like it?, this is more important.
It is simple..:
a) Go to a coffee shop.
b) Go to the movie.
c) First coffe, movie later.
>>249
I disagree. I feel a movie is a bad idea. It is perhaps to intimate, and gives off the feeling of a "date." Also, how do you talk and "catch up" while quietly watching a movie? When a male and female go to a movie, it is either as very good friends with common interests or and excuse to snuggle with each other while watching it. Also, guys take girls to movies since they have no place better to be.
Let's be less intimate at this stage, and a little more creative. Coffee is good. Not creative, but more of a friendly atmosphere. A movie isn't something you do at times like this one. However... it's time could very well come. Let's hope so.
>>250
Ok, movie= bad idea... but, anybody here have another one?... i understand that, this ins't a intimated date.
Of course, it is better than BBQ :PPP
What about Chinese food? Most Chinese places are a nice place to hang out and talk to people.
I kinda thought a barbecue would be a good idea.. (^_^;) That way it wouldn't be just the two of us.. seemed like it might be a little more comfortable that way.. and they're always pretty fun... but, i trust your judgement!
Well, coffee seems to be the best choice.. I'm gonna do a little research and see if I can find a good place. Maybe one that has some kinda food too...
Hmm.. the one thing I'm kinda worried about with this is that I can already see myself sitting there and not knowing what to say. orz
>>253
That's what I was worried about too.
But that's what we're here for.
Support begins when I get home from work!
I would advise that you find a place that is slightly crowded, like, say, Starbucks or Barnes and Noble. That way, it's not quite so awkward. (Or maybe that just what I would choose. I don't feel comfortable being alone with somebody. lol) At the same time, don't choose a place that's super-crowded because that sometimes makes coversation hard if it's really noisy.
Just some stuff to keep in mind! (^^;)
You said before that once you talked with her about anime. Which ones does she like?
msnnnn where are youuuuu
MSN, there are many things you can talk to Winnie about.
Ask her how her time back in Japan was. Does she miss her old friends? What are her friends like? What do they like to do together? Ask her how she feels being back in the U.S. What school did she want to go to? Are things going well for her in the states?
You can also tell her what's been going on with you. Don't say things are the same as always. "I've just working on school" won't cut it. There is more you can say. You can say you have a class that you like right now. Or maybe you hate all your classes. Is there anything you are looking forward to? "I'm looking forward to next year when I can do such and such." But don't get too deep into a subject unless it seems she is interested. You don't want to bore her.
Whatever you do, don't tell her about this board!
duh.
BUT THIS BOARD IS VERY POPULAR NOW AND SHE MIGHT FIND IT oh I wish.
MSN, come back to the board!
this thread sure has died.
where are you, msn?
He has a life outside of 4-ch and "Winnie".
Hey Everyone! Sorry for the wait. I've been pretty busy with school, etc. Anyway, I'd like to get things progressing again. I've been thinking about what we could do together. I keep coming back to the idea of a group thing. It just seems like having other people around would really cut the tension and allow me to be myself. But... another problem that comes up is that I have no money right now. orz. As I mentioned before, I'm a freelance CG artist. I'm workin on a job now which I'll hopefully get paid for within the week. So it seems like I'm kinda grounded for the moment...
Alas, real life strikes again!
>I keep coming back to the idea of a group thing.
Ix-nay on the oup-gray. This is a casual meeting so you and her can catch up, remember?
I agree with >>268. You two need a relaxed environment to talk to each other, it doesn't really have to be a big fun outing or anything. A group thing might actually be more awkward for her, unless everyone knows her. I really suggest doing it just you two - I think even if you have a hard time getting through it, she'll be more comfortable.
Kind of quiet here lately. So, any other singles with problems?
hmm.. well that makes sense. So just Coffee?
Yes, and mind the noise level when you pick a place.
Coffee and catching up :D
I don't mean to steal the limelight from MSN-kun in any way (good luck with meeting Winnie, BTW), but let's say (hypothetically, of course) that I received a girlfriend (God forbid). Now, the concept of 'taking her out for coffee' sounds like a good idea, but the problem is I don't drink coffee - I drink Red Bull. What would I do with her? Take her out for Red Bull(!)?
Red Bull? Absolutely never! Coffee is the greatest conversation beverage next to alcohol! NOT RED BULL!
There is plenty of other stuff you could drink... Hot chocolate is my vote!!
>>274
"Taking her out for coffee" doesn't really mean both of you drinking coffee (at least I never saw it that way). It's more like an informal meeting/date/whatever that usually takes place at a coffeehouse or Starbucks or something.
Besides, you could always get the vanilla chai or something. ^_^
>>274
Tea or hot chocolate? Most coffee places have stuff besides coffee.
Kinda related; I'm kind of bad at conversations. I can start them fine but I can never keep the conversation going. I always stop having things to talk about and it's kind of annoying.
>>275, take it easy! I was only joking with that last sentence.
All good answers, though. Thanks.
>>280
Heh heh, yeah, I was joking there too. Red Bull is great when you got nothin else.
Is it just me, or has this thread slowed down a lot?
I never found it that fast in the first place
Well, MSN Otoko is stuck waiting for a paycheque before he can move forward with the catch-up coffee. And we're stuck waiting for him. A lot of people seem to also have left since he made his first move. It would be nice if he'd give us an update on his location research or something.
What does everyone thing about linking this thread on Densha Otoko fansites/forum threads? Will they open their hearts?
>>284
Exactly.... still waiting for that check.. orz
Anyway, hey everyone. I think I found a good coffee shop. It's called The Coffee Bean. It's pretty similar to Starbucks, but I tried their coffee and I like it more. More importantly, I think the location's pretty nice. Maybe we could walk down the street with our coffee and talk. （´∀｀）
Well, I'm gonna be out of town for the next few days. I'm gonna take my laptop with and hopefully get this job done! Although I probably wont have an internet connection, so it'll be a few days before I post again. Anyway, I hope you all have a great Thanksgiving and thanks for sticking with me!
Wow, that has got to be the most elaborated internet prank of all time.
I doubt it.
>>287-288
Nah, MSN isn't that exaggerated and this is all pretty beleiveable.
Anyway, I've been away from this thread for awhile.
MSN, i'm glad you found a good location.
Can't wait to hear more. Good luck!
Good luck, MSN! Give us a full report when you get back!
Doo-de-doo...kicks topic
And so begins the death of this topic...
He did say he was going out of town for a few days. I'd say give him a week. In the meantime, any other single males want to rant?
What the hell happened here?
What do men think of women?
Don't let the thread just die because one guy isnt here to make it work. Someone else has to have troubles right?
well, im single now and i have something to rant about. it happened when i was technically single.
we were together for 3 years n some months, then last summer she had to move to another state. tried LDR with hopes of being together again in 3 years. last month we eventually broke things off officially and decided to open ourselves to hanging out n seeing other ppl. unofficially tho, i still cared a lot for her n told myself that the only reason we werent together was cuz of the physical separation. she still turned to me when she was having trouble and she even told me she loved me more than any of the guys she was seeing.
she's always been honest tho n never kept anything from me. one day she tells me shes gotten serious n intimate w/one of the guys. "i like him, but i love you" she tells me.
she also told me that she would drop that guy just like that if i were there n that she wants us to still be together after 3 more years, but is it wrong that now i cant look at her the same way. i know we weren't technically together anymore, but i felt so cheated. the price i pay for having faith in the back of my mind that 3 years wasnt gonna be that bad. =(
>>299
What the fuck is wrong with you?!?!?!?!?
you are such a lucky man!
get a plane ticket!
Go see her!
You can at least visit!
Do not let something like physical seperation keep you from being in a relationship. If you truly love someone, you can wait forever for them.
You are not single.
You have a very sweet girl there for you, now go see her!
300GEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEET~
if only i could see her =(
im a full time student w/o a job n living off his parents. any free time i have is consumed by research n volunteerwork (which i need for med school)
>>301
this is where you're a better man than me. If I were in your position, I would quit school and go live with her. I'm fine with only getting $7 an hour, and after living expenses, having $200 a month. But that's mostly because I have everything I need. The only thing I care about in life is to be with the one I love. That is the only thing, and I will do anything to get it.
You, on the other hand, make more sense and are more wise.
However.
You cannot let these things ruin such a great relationship. Otherwise, it will be completly gone before you know it.
So get out there and visit her. Winter break is coming up soon, no?
Hmm...well, since MSN isn't here, I might as well rant too. I'm single. Always have, probably always will. I wouldn't call myself a picky man woman-wise. I pretty much like every girl that (willingly) hangs around me. However, I can never bring myself to tell them. I dunno what it is but I just don't want to ruin the friendship by being turned down and then not talking. Thus, I'm stuck with a bunch of friends. Nothing more, nothing less. oh are zee.
u say you have a bunch of girl-friends anyway, why not take the risk on one of 'em to be your girlfriend ;)
and instead of us, get ur girl-friends to help you, im sure they'll be more helpful and draw you closer with them too. girls love playing matchmaker for friends ;p
>she still turned to me when she was having trouble and she even told me she loved me more than any of the guys she was seeing.
Friendzone alert?
Sorry to sound negative, but if she's become intimate with another yet doesn't love him and still wants you "if only you would be there" then it sounds like she's just trying to keep her options open. Unless she's already broken up with that guy.
If you do get back together eventually, make sure she gets a full checkup under the hood before you do anything with her. Being a med student you should be well aware of the risks.
>>304
Yeah, umm...I tried having them play matchmaker. Didn't work out.
benoist i don't think it matters that you've always been single and are afraid to ask out the girls you know, obviously none of them is "the girl" otherwise you wouldnt be able to help yourself. You just need to wait for the right girl to come along.
True. Very true.
wow happen to pass by this board...reminds me of densha otoko lol
Yeah... a lot of people think that.
haha but the layout of this board confuses me...i usually dwell in forums where the page's more oraganised....lol
anywhere...where are you guys from?
i'm from singapore...this little island in south east asia....^____^
Dallas, Texas
Norway represent :o
New Zealand!
Toronto, Canada
MSN Otoko, where are youuuuuuu? (´･ω･`)
Hi everyone. I think just like me, many of the people dwelling on this thread arrived here due to the Densha Otoko. I tried to find a similar thread since I have a small problem that fits right into the setting of that drama. I don't have much experience with these threads and hope I am not breaking some etiquette by writing this long post, but I need a lot of space to explain this problem. Go read from the Arrow in the below paragraph (===>) if you want to get to the plot straight away.
In the drama, the protagonist again and again survives ridiculous odds. The odds are so small that it might be difficult to believe someone could have such luck. However, Yesterday something happened to me, something which is nearly impossible to credibly communicate. That is why I searched out this place because I hope people here will have an open mind.
Unlike the drama's main character, I am not really an otaku, except that I've always been quite introverted, and I have no urges to meet people all the time. So I don't, except for the people in my study. Maybe partly as a result, I have never had a girlfriend. Now I will describe what happened. Please give me some advice regardless of wether you put faith in my tale.
Yesterday I rode on a half empty interliner from Maastricht at around 20:30, going home. This bus stops only once in every town because it is an interliner. Usually I take a more local bus which goes to the same stops as the interliner, but also to others, including one that is closer to home than the interliner stop. For the first time in 1.5 years in which I travel this road, I mixed up the buses and thought I was in a local bus.
I remained seated as the bus halted at its single stop in my town, as I expected to get off at the next one. But of course it didn't. Still assuming to be in a local bus I stood then walked forward and called the busdriver that I pressed the stopbutton, but he wouldn't look at me, nor stop for me. I then realised my mistake, and I felt that I was embarrassing myself. So I silently sat down, and let myself get transported over the empty, 5km evening-road. I exited in the next town, with a slight hope that an opposite headed bus might arrive soon to bring me back to my town. Then it happened.
===>
A girls' voice called me from behind: "that bus driver really didn't treat you very friendly, did he?" This voice came from a very attractive girl, so I did not really know what to say, commenting only that it wasn't so bad. She however kept expressing her concern about the busdrivers attitude towards me, whom I actually modestly defended for doing his job. She also seemed concerned about how I was to go home. We found out that no bus was coming for me soon. (she walked along with me as her house was the same direction anyway) I said I was going to walk home, a thought that she had difficulty with to accept.
Somehow, as I walked down the road, and she still with me, she offered to drive me home, then asserted this offer and I accepted. To make things short, I accompanied her to her house, where her parents' car was parked, chitchatting a little on the way. She told me to take a seat, started the car and drove. Too soon for my taste we arrived at a corner of a road where she was going to put me off. I hoped to get her name at least, but I was shy on this and afraid I would bring this in a wrong manner. I didn't get to asking her and we said goodbye. She left me reflecting on that corner what had just happened.
What had happened? a beautiful girl offered a complete stranger a ride home! What are the odds of that happening?
Now the tricky part: If possible, I would like to meet her again. It is from the riddiculous odds that I started to think about densha otoko, and that same drama might have the answer. The woman sent a parcel with two teacups as a way to establish contact with Yamada. I was thinking to also do something similar. I can say in all honesty that I was moved by this girl, unselfishly offering to drive a stranger home. Would I not have a good reason to thank her, and would a gift not be a great way? Additionally, by enclosing my contact info, I would send the least intrusive signal of wanting to meet again.
What kind of gift should I buy though to make her want to contact me? It shouldn't be too cheap I guess, but not too expensive either because that would maybe scare her off. I can only come up with teacups, and that's not real original is it? also, I think that when a man does it, it almost sounds like a proposal for marriage. Please comment on effective gifts, and thank you in advance.
Hmmmmm.....you didn't get a chance to ask what she was interested in did you? As in hobbies, interests, etc. Try to remember what kind of things she had in her car, did she have anything lying around that might give off what she's interested in? Perhaps it'll help you think of something to give her. Maybe something related to her career/major would be good. Or perhaps recall something you guys were discussing. These would all make great gift ideas and let her know that you're thoughtful rather than immediatley interested in her. If not, you can always go with some cookies or something.
Just remember, think friendly gifts, nothing too extravagent; especially since you want to thank her rather than scaring her off....which is something I know all to well -.-... just chiming in with my two cents...gambate!
> by enclosing my contact info
i wrote a lot of stuff then deleted it after i just realized that YOU were the one that gave ur info to her---before i go on, i want to know if you got HER contact info as well to send her stuff?
For a first gift, you'll probably want something that could be useful to anyone. In Densha's case, he didn't seem to be a big tea person, but he was glad to get anything at all. I think this situation is different, sending her teacups here could be good, and although I'm sure she would appreciate it, it's possible that she might not actually need them.
I think the more important question is, do you have any excuse for knowing her address when she didn't even give a name? Be careful with what you say to her, you're kind of on thin ice already!
This brings back so much memories of Densha Otoko, even 4-ch is affiliated with 2-ch (where Densha materialised!). Either way, I did a little CTRL-F on this page and MSN Otoko's last post was over a week ago. So what happened about that little outing at coffee bean?
As for Demian, what were you thinking not asking for her name?? She offered you a ride home, even a non-interested party would ask for her name. It's what we call manners :P. Can we give you some (fill in the blanks) OTOKO? Just to stick to the tradition and to breathe some densha otoko-ness into this thread. ^_^''
He did say he walked to her house before she drove him home. So he must remember the address, right? Or at least the general location.
>Can we give you some (fill in the blanks) OTOKO? Just to stick to the tradition and to breathe some densha otoko-ness into this thread. ^_^''
Nah. He's already given himself a name, to do that now would feel forced and artificial.
>>317
We need to know what she talked about before we can suggest a truly appropriate gift. (we could also use a girl's point of view for this) You could still go with a pair of good quality teacups if nothing else. I think it was a particularly good gift because it's something you can use together.
>>319, Since she walked me to her house to get to the car, I do know her address. I believe that should be a proper excuse.
>>321, I know I should have asked for her name. In fact, I wanted to know almost all the time but didn't have the guts to ask. It seemed and seems still an awkward question.
We didn't really talk about specific things, it was most about university. Let me elaborate a little on that: She is a masters student of law but she doesn't study in the city where I do. Instead she commutes to a different city for her studies twice a week. This is possible in the Netherlands, because it is not all too big of a country. I guess she goes by train. When I met her, she carried along two bags of clothes and shoes that she had bought in that city. Those were, according to her, the result of a last shopping spree before her exams which are end of december.
Those are more memories than I thought I would have remembered! Writing about them really helped... but I don't see many hints in them yet.
You know what they say about Dutch people? They're supposed to be stingy. I don't want to be stingy, but if the gift does not have the effect of at least reestablishing contact I don't want to have spent too much money on it. After all, I'm just a student living from his parent's subsidies.
Finally, I thought maybe the timing should be considered? we both have exams soon, and it is also Christmas soon. What should I give, and when?
sorry to be the bearer of bad news, but you don't have anything going for you. despite his introverted otaku-ness, densha did help the pretty lady. in this scenario it was the pretty lade who stood up and helped you, so then maybe you had the opportunity of being the thankful one and sending the gift... EXCEPT you didn't ask nor did she offer her address, so it might come off stalker-ish. maybe its customery in japan, but think about your own circumstances outside independently of densha. who sends a gift for a free ride?
you are already doubtful and not wanting to waste money. think about why you doubt. i hate to be the bearer of bad news, but you are trying so hard to compare your situation to densha that you might just end up letting yourself down.
IF you're just gonna ignore me anyways, heres this on a tip for a gift: if it was a long trip, then it cost her gas n time... so send her a card with a gift card to reimburse for her troubles... she seems to like shopping.
>>325
Did you recognize or remember any of the brand names on the bags?
A nice thing would be stuff that is good for using while you study maybe. Like some nice cookies, coffee, um... CD can be a tough one due to everyone's got different taste. But yeah also think about what you saw she had shopped for previously. A gift certificate in with a thoughtful "finals survival pack" could be very nice.
A thank you card would also be a nice touch to put in with the gift. A gift certificate would be much too impersonal, it wouldn't give her any reason to contact him. I like the cookies >>328 mentioned. Can you cook at all? Some homemade treats might make a good impression.
I know that I have little going for me, in fact I am trying a long, long shot. However, she did after all offer me a ride. Why would she do that? I hope that it was because I interested her in some way but of course I do not know if that was the real reason.
Thank you for the suggestions, especially the idea about "finals survival pack!" I will keep it in mind and think about essential exam-preparation materials. Unfortunately I can hardly cook and barely bake anything at all. In America I believe it is common practice to bring cookery as a gift, so I don't know but in the Netherlands it is quite rare so I think it would leave a retard impression.
>>324
>>328
Don't give her cups, thats like opening up the presents for christmas and finding out they are all clothes - boring.
How about something todo with studing or christmas ? Some cookies sounds like a good idea, she can snak on them while shes studying ;)
>>329 has a good idea about some home made cookies, that would show you really care. Also put them in a proper dish, so she has an excuse to return it to you :D
No Gift voucher, too imporsonal.
YOu need to put in a letter, thanking her for the lift. You could say that you were so greatful for the lift that you forgot to exchange names, and ask her....
I also think that homemade cookies would be a nice gift, especially in a pretty tin or something. I know doinkies always likes getting freshly-made cookies for Christmas.
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>>326
I fully agree.
I'm sorry, Demian, but please, wake up. Don't send a gift.
Send a small letter or something. If she contacts you, she's interested. If she doesn't, she isn't.
Not everything is as complicated or elaborate as Densha or MSN. It's often best just to do small things and see where they go. Be traditional in this case, not Densha Otoko.
Sorry, but I really, really must advise against sending anything more than a letter. A gift would be weird, stalker-ish, awkward, and in the end, a waste of money/time.
Sorry.
p.s. where's MSN, anyway? I'm really missing you, man ；；
Maybe she killed him.
gift would be weird, stalker-ish, awkward, and in the end, a waste of money/time.
Ok, so you want something casual, and not too expensive. I still think cookies are the best suggestion so far..
No point in giving a voucher, you may as well just give her some money for the petrol, and neither of those leaves much reason for you to ever see her again.
a gift is not stalkerish. people give gifts for many reasons.
cookies would be a great gift along with a thank you note. good luck!
Listen. No girl would ever drive a random stranger around unless she liked him in some way. I am not saying she is in love with him or something, but that's really not something that happens all the time.
Yeah definately he does not want to go overboard here. But giving a small present in return is no big deal. Considering what she did for him, it would not seem stalkerish, unless he spent way too much or sent a bunch of presents one after another. If he seemed creepy to her, she would have not spoken to him in the first place.
Thank you all for the support. I really like the exam survival pack kit since she used those imminent exams as an excuse to go out shopping. It is usefull and it is funny. But what should be in it? I thought of some red bull cans, some fruit and some ginkgo tea or likewise. Do you have any more ideas to fill a basket?
Finals Survival Pack Assembly Project: GO!
Something to snack on like microwave popcorn? (I have no idea what the common snack foods are where you live.)
RED BULL KITAA!!!
Seriously, however, I think we're forgetting the one vital ingredient here - Chocolate. A decent sized bar of milk/dark chocolate (not white, NEVER white) is always a "dead cert", especially among the ladies. You can't really go wrong with chocolate, in my opinion.
iv been single for allmost 5 years now but the times that seem to make me want to be with someone are short but they seems to last so long i try god knows i try but can't seems to find anyone who suites me
orz
Seems like a good idea, so long as its not overkill (i.e too much). Be careful with the chocolate, you don't want to do the overkill thing. Some Chocolate bars would probably work better, then a slab or a box...
The other guy is right, no girl would give a guy they found creey, a lift home.
Let's brainstorm ideas!
Definately red bull. Maybe coffee or flavored coffee. Cookies (even like one of those little single serving bags from the grocery store.) Crackers. A couple pencils and pens. Blank CDs (to back stuff up?). Candle? (Urg candles are like the ultimate gift for when you don't know what to give so probably not.) Index cards? They are good for studying.
http://www.bsu.edu/alumni/start/startsurvival/
http://shop.store.yahoo.com/clarkstore/sprinfinsurk.html
Maybe they have this at a local bookstore, it may be funny and appropriate:
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/0811842304/qid=1133817604/sr=8-5/ref=sr_8_xs_ap_i5_xgl14/002-2871919-1860834?n=507846&s=books&v=glance
(In case that link doesn't work, it's the "Worst-Case Scenario Survival Handbook: College") It seems to have little fun quips so it would be nice light reading for a laugh.
great post >>345
i'd say no to the candles (definately) and not the blank cds..
"Worst-Case Scenario Survival Handbook: College" - great idea :)
What about a nice looking notebook?
Also if you go with the gift basket idea,
1) BE VERY CAREFUL not to make it strangely large and be creepy
2) Use christmas as an excuse for why you're making a big deal about her ranfom act of kindness.
hey guys. I just got linked to this thread from d-addicts.com's Single Ranting thread!! and look here is another real one!!!
haha the world is really small. by reading the last 50 posts to catch up, i've missed some details. at least i think, i know there is a Finals Survival Pack Assembly Project. but why would u need cds or anything? is it a camping business? if so, i would care more about flashlight, fire and personal and daily accessories like toothbrush and stuff. hope that helps!
How about a couple of energy/meal replacement bars?
http://www.roadandtravel.com/health/2005/snackormealbar.htm
I agree with the index cards or a nice notepad or small notebook. If you go with the christmas excuse, maybe a cute santa hat?
Another good and unique stimulant tea is Mate de Coca or Coca Tea, if you can find it. http://www.peruconnections.com/inkatea/physical.html
>>347
Here's a link to a few highlights of MSN Otoko. Maybe you could pass it on? ;)
http://4-ch.net/general/kareha.pl/1130119860/42-82,169-182,185-201,223-238
>>347
Finals are tests, nothing to do with camping
>>347
what
Awesome! A girl I kinda like just indirectly asked me to see a movie with her. It will happen by me saying I want her to see a movie with her, though. Kind of a weird situtation.
I wonder if i'll be able to build up the guts.
haha sure thing guys. I started telling this chat channel to my friend already. he didn't believe me. so i gave him the URL. :D
anyways, where is Msn otaku?
otoko =/= otaku
>>354 MSN otoko is an otaku for girls w
KIITTA!!!
KIITTA!!!
sigh...I'm worried about MSN...;_;
>>358 Worry not about MSN-kun; he's either too busy to post, or he's simply forgotten. Either way, I'm sure he's got a perfectly good reason. Just be patient.
Demian's last post was 3 days ago. Great, now we have two lovelorn schmoes gone AWOL.
Single mens rant thread huh? Trying to start another legend but this time in America?
Maybe I should start then...
I went into glasses store recently, in search of overpriced sunglasses, and a beautiful Korean girl was working there (this was at the Korean market btw) well didn't speak any English so I had to speak some Korean. She was so excited and we traded numbers. She said that she would be moving to Koreatown in one week and would get a full time job at a restaurant. She told me to come visit her.
So, I called her, and let her know I would be going in. A friend and I drove out to K-town and went to this ultra fancy restaurant that she worked at. The food was majorly pricey but I figured it was worth it. She served us a couple beers and some food and meanwhile invited me to her apartment to teach her english when I finish my finals. Later when I asked for the check she told me that I didn't have to pay anything, that she took care of it. So I walked away with free beer, food, and a possible sex invitation... God I hope she's not just after my citizenship!
As of yet, there is no development in the process as I'm still trying to get hold of a suitable container, such as a basket. Tomorrow there is a market and I hope to find suitable material there. Currently the basket will contain 2 redbull cans, some chocolate, markers, small sticky notes, 2 apples, some tea and a small note-block. I hope that will be enough.
Should be enough I think. A cute well thought out small gift is the way to go in that situation. Make sure to put a very short thank you note. Make you to tease! Love is a GAME.
Sounds great Demian :)
How about getting a nice christmas card, and thanking her for the lift home that day, how she saved you ;) and figure out how you can put in your contact info.
Looks like Demian has taken over for MSN...
>>367
You make it sound like a bad thing :P
This is the single man's rant thread afterall, anyone is free to apply!
I AM SO ALOOOOOOOOOONE.
I'm not sure why I don't seem to have much interested in dating. (and no, I'm not HAADO GEI...)
My idea of what constitutes 'attractive' doesn't really mesh with what society seems to view as attractive. You would think that would make things easier, right? I don't know.
I've got to do something, though. I'm 24, and while that certainly isn't old by any means, my opportunities seem to diminish constantly. Part of that is the fact that I've never really dated anyone (at least that lived in the same state, lol), so I don't really know how to proceed... and so I create the idea that I want to date someone younger, that might be equally inexperienced. But as I get older, that becomes less and less of a possibility...
You know, we ought to have assignments in this thread. Like, everyone has to try to get a date this week, etc.
Hmm... it's weird. If anything, I'd say I prefer cute over hot. But it's really kind of variable... I'm not doing a good job of epxlaining.
You're right, you're not. Try naming some people who fit your tastes.
Just caught on late but... I wonder how MSN is getting along. As much as it pains me to say it, this will probably not end fantastically if I pursues the romantic route. I think he should just settle for being friends because otherwise he stands to lose it all. But then again, getting majorly butt-hurt might enable him to find someone else down the road. Demian's deal is in the beginning stages but I think it has some good possibilities. Demian, what type of guy are you?
>>370
If we had assignments i would fail all the time orz
MSN WHERE ARE YOU :(
>>377
Traitor! He will come back!
>>376
Heaven, is it you that I am arguing with in the Japanese thread?
ehhh ignore >>380. I'm new to this bbs and I didn't realize that there are duplicate or masked tripcodes?
"heaven" is your ID if you type something in the email field.
They're not tripcodes. They're IP hashes. Tripcodes would go next to the name. In a kareha board like this, they can be set to be the same over the whole board, over only individual threads, or to never be the same. Saging masks it.
I see... man I'm noob
^^^^ Yay, I did it! ^^^^^ ...
>>386 I see what you didn't do there
Hello, I am >>386's bunion. I am writing this while he is asleep. I must apologize for my owner's use of a name even though he hasn't done anything of note and no one cares who he is. He is young and inexperienced, so please go easy on him.
I don't see a need for anonymity, to be honest, and even though I haven't done anything it doesn't matter much. No one really "cares" who anyone is here anyway. Isn't that why it's anonymous?
Your own toe just pwned you (´ー`)b
You better switch to being anon to avoid further embarasment associated with your name! Hurry! People on the internet are laughing at you as we speak!
Back on topic! Resume ranting on the topic of "SINGLE MALEHOOD"!
I don't hate being single. I have all my valuable time for myself.
OK. People on the internet are laughing at me... thats pretty rough. I don't think its possible to be embarassed on the internet? Unless you are the Numa numa guy or star wars kid...
Being single is nice, I just ended a one year relationship a month ago and the free time is nice. Now I can work more, make more money, and study harder. Life is pretty good. But the dating game is a pain in the ass.
>>392
We're laughing at you because you pretty much ignored the customs of this board and expected us to not care that you did. Way to be arrogant. (´ー`)b
I passed-up the chance of love for game programming and airsoft guns! (´ー`)b
>>393
That's complete bullshit okay. Expecting only important people to use names (BECAUSE I AM SO IMPORTANT AM MY EGO IS HUGE AMIRITE) is much worse than having everyone use names. And being nameless is a choice, okay, not everyone has to or wants to do it.
For what its worth I'm sorry I ignored the customs of the board but, it's not like I was threatening any of you or anything. I'm just saying its not a huge deal. I figured that for people who complain about not fitting into society you would all be more accepting of mistakes and such, but everyone here seems act like jerks towards those who don't understand all the rules.
>>393
And I expect you not to care, how important is this forum to you? What you percieve as arrogance I think is more a matter of me not glorifying all that is anonymous BBS.
Apologies to all, this will be my last off topic post.
back on topic:
Gosh I wonder where MSN went? Oh yeah, he's waiting for a check so he can take a girl out for coffee. MSN... I hope you don't get too butt-hurt.
Demian seems to actually have a realistic chance but I don't think a gift basket is a good idea. A 10$ gift card and a card with a short note is ALL that is necessary. Girls hate to be smothered. They like to be teased. Go all out in the beginning and you get nothing in the end. I can say this because I've failed many times.
this is cuntish
sigh...If only MSN were here, we wouldn't be reduced to arguing...-_-
You forgot to 400get.
Besides, the only reason anyone does anything is for recognition. (Fame, fortune, selfishness and personal gratification are also common reasons.)
...Wait, what's the topic again?
I don't know anymore...
If I don't guess, then I won't know.
CRAWLLLLING INNN MY SKIIIN THESE WOUNNNDS THEY WILLLLL NOT HEAAAAL!
Man, I really miss MSN :(
Maybe he over-did it again and is too ashamed to post here.
PLEASE, MSN COME BACK!! I need to know, and you need to keep trying!!
Hey guys, I'm >>352. We sort of talked about it again the day before yesterday, and she's still up for it.
I was planning to ask her what day this week she was available to, but I just couldn't make myself. My only available day will be tuesday, so I may have to ask her tomorrow if I want to.
If I don't I'll meet her on friday anyway (concert.)
You see, we've been talking alot on MSN for about a month now, but I can't help but to think I will screw up if we actually meet.
Also, I'm deeply moved that this girl actually wants to spend time with me.
I'm so shy :(
Great!
But keep it in your head to be her FRIEND first. If something else comes later.. fantastic. But for now she is a friend, and don't go crazy thinking about confessing your feelings or anything.
Ask her! You already have a rapport with her so it's not like asking someone out of the blue. Find a movie she would like and mention it when you bring up the subject. If she says no, you'll still see her at the concert, right?
>>407
Man, I might have done something stupid like that if you didn't say that.
Actually, I just found out I'm going to be busy all week (my 17th birthday amongst things), but I'll meet the girl on friday, anyway so it's cool 8)
Still want to see a movie with her, though :) I'll talk with her about it.
>>408
I'm pretty sure she'll say yes to see a movie.
Oops, I meant to age this.
A movie wouldn't be a bad idea at all really, but a location where you could talk would be better. Do you live in the LA area? If so I know a buttload of fantastic coffee shops.
Hey all, I posted here before and I need some help. I've been flirting with this girl I like for the past week, we've been calling each other "darling", "dearie", and "dearest", but right now my friend just said that he thinks that the girl might be the type that might not be looking for a relationship. I was just wondering what you guys think. I really REALLY like her a lot, but at the same time I dont' want to be disappointed like I've been in the past. I get the vibe that she likes me but I don't know 100% if she would be willing to start a relationship. Please help. Thanks.
oh and if it helps my case any, she has her facebook listed as "single" and "whatever I can get"....also, I invited her to go with me to Disneyland during the start of next quarter without actually talking to her too much prior and she said she would be "more than happy" to go.....hopefully this will help you guys determine whether or not she would be open to dating me...thanks all
>>412
take a chance. if it works it works, if not it doesn't. don't stay in limbo though or you'll end up falling into the "friend zone".
facebook?
lol facebook is a college student database, kind of like "myspace.com" or "friendster.com"...people can post if they're single and looking for "friendship", "dating", "a relationship", or "whatever I can get"....think of it like an advanced scouting list if you want to know whether or not a girl is single ;)!
lol densha otoko
>>412
Sounds like you are more or less in the clear. Give it a go soon or you will fall into friend territory.
My main concern is that she lives in Florida right now LOL talk about the start of a freaking wierd relationship!!!! and I'm in California thats like 1,000,000 miles apart! So I don't know what to do! GAFGADFASDFJK!!!!!! She'll be returning to California next month though when we reunite at UCSB. OMFG I don't know what to do...oh, and if it helps any; we were friends before this ~_~.......dies
>>419
you people are way too tense over your relationships. don't be so serious all the time. if things work out they work out. if they don't you would end up miserable sooner or later no matter how infatuated you may be right now, and are better off seeking someone else.
>>419
So you've been calling each other darling only on the internet? Or has she been in Florida for only a short while?
>>420
hahah exactly true. If it's meant to be it's meant to be, but a lot of the people here (not everyone) haven't been in "real" relationships, just online ones, so they don't know how to interact properly. Let this thread be their safety net because they have no other source of advice.
Hope you make it through the snow, if you're around the east coast.
Good luck, 352 otoko! lol
I think the movie-thing is off, but I could still ask her again. Also, she might not come to the concert, but I said she should come on MSN.
>>424
I'm not in America.
...but there's snow here too.
about 3-4 hours 'till I'm going. I'm not gonna be bloody nervous. At least I'll try. I'll talk to her, at least.
The thing is, I have no idea what she's thinking, and it's driving me nuts. I have no idea what's going on when we talk on MSN, other than we talk about a lot of things, and she likes talking to me, however, I might not be as talkative when we meet. Espescially on this concert-thing.
At least I'll see her.
Maybe I'll ask her if she wants to do something sometime.
Bye.
Do your best, 352!
U should def go for it! we are all here for u!! GO GO GO!!
Forget about asking her if it's going to make you nervous, just focus on having a good time with her at the concert.
Okay, so things turned out quite funny.
She didn't have a ride to the concert, and we were talking on MSN.
She lives a lot longer away from the concert than I, so it was quite a problem (she would come late etc.)
She asked me what bus I was taking, and then I said "well, I got my dad to drive me." (shut up) And then... "wait. should i ask him if he's willing to drive to x so we could give you a ride?"
And that's what happened. Both went to the concert in the same car. She was pretty quiet, and there was a lot of silence. I guess I'm not the only one who can be shy. Maybe because of my dad? I think so.
So yeah, the concert were fun, we jumped around and so and so. We didn't really talk as much as I'd wanted but it was fun enough.
When the concert ended, I walked her to the bus-stop (with some kid from my street walking next to me ;_;) and then we hugged. Hugged ! Oh yeah, hugs are nice. I casually said "bye, then! speak to you later!"
So, I'm wondering if this was a date or something. We were next to each other almost all the time, and both arrived and left at the same time.
Hug.
What now? Maybe I'll ask her to see a movie sometime. There's also a "prom"-thing coming up that she's going to, but that's really not my thing. Maybe I'll go.
I'll note that we were in the same class for half a year, but now we go to different schools.
Thanks for reading.
kitaaa!
Lol good job. Seems like you didn't over or under do it at all.
>>431
It wasn't a date. Don't let yourself think something is a date unless she explicitly calls it a date.
Movie? Go for it!
KITA! But were there any hints? Or buying signals from her?
I have a bad habit of falling inlove with girls that already have boyfriends :(
One girl a fell in love with twice(she still got the boyfriend the second time) and now i am in love with a girl that i think have a boyfriend.
But i don't know how i can find out. I can't ask her about it(I just started talking to girls about 1-2years ago , i guess i'm a bit shy about it).
Also there is a girl that i like somwhat that don't have a boyfriend , and i think we share some common interests(the one i am in love with now don't share any as far as i can see)
I have been thinking about getting to know the girl that im just like a bit better.
What should i do?
Also how should i start getting to know the girl? Im to shy to just go and start talking to her. But we do share the same class at school.
>>436
I think you're using the term "love" way too liberally...
>>437
everyone does in America, this is the country where people love chocolate.
Hey Demian, did you find anything in the market?
I have odd problems of falling for girls i just plain dont have access to, either, insane time issues, or distance, or just, inavailablity. Mabye I have a case of always wanting what I cant have....
(time issues = theyre way too busy, just, all the time)
Everyone's too busy all the time. I have no friends for the same reason: my "friends" are always occupied doing this or that. Those of us who have a spare hour a day to post on the Internet are a rare bunch, I guess.
wow this thread feels alive...
someone fill me in on this MSN guy?
sounds pretty interesting lol
test test
We're still waiting for updates from the now about 3 guys who may have prospects for a relationship.
Maybe they all killed themselves... (・Д・;)
Densha Otoko this ain't I guess.
Not enough stick-to-it-iveness in the group. :(
Have you asked her out yet, 352?
Sorry, no.
>>446
for lack of BACKBONE
watch and learn, boys.
So you're still alive, and you've talked to her. What about? Come on, we need details!
I wonder about the other two guys... Seems like magic stories like densha for example don't really happen that often.
Of course it's not going to happen that often. However, people at least have a chance if they put effort into it, and keep themselves motivated.
it seems MSN is gone... sigh...
well I wish the best of luck to the rest of you, but I will not be following this thread anymore. BENOIST!
...
>>452
I don't know anymore. I'm sorta confused.
I'm not sure I like her as a friend or something else.
Maybe I'll find out by doing something with her sometime, so I guess I'll ask her out sometime. Maybe.
ALERT! Okay guys. New story here.
I might be asking this girl who's just a casual friend (for now) out for a New Years Countdown concert/fireworks thingy if I catch her on MSN later or something, cos a singer she likes is performing.
I'm banking on the fact that we live very near each other and the event takes place like 10 minutes away from our place.
But I haven't been contacting her much recently, so if anything comes out of this it'll be a bonus.
You probably wouldn't know, cos he's a mandarin pop singer. I'm living somewhere in Southeast Asia =).
BTW, I read through MSN Otoko's posts, and I found that I faced the exact same agony of not being able to H+I+Enter recently, cos the previous few conversations on MSN went quite boringly IMO.
I'm thinking about messaging her on her mobile phone if I don't catch her online, but it'll probably seem desperate?
Okay, a group of my guy friends are also probably planning a night out in town to welcome the New Year. I'd feel like a dick for blowing them off for a girl (that's IF I actually get around to asking and her saying yes).
Man, screw them. Don't you think they would blow you off for a girl? No? If not you should maybe wait until after new-year to ask her out.
Okay, turns out to be anti climatic. Didn't actually get around to askin her out. I started off by messaging her mobile, asking if she was doing anything tomorrow and turns out she already had dinner plans. No surprise I guess, I would be lucky getting anything to happen, asking so late.
But judging from the response I 'm getting (through the the text msgs), I probably have a whole lotta work left to do before she's gonna go out with me anyway...
More significant developments (maybe), once my school term starts on the 3rd of January.
Hmm, dinner plans. Are you sure she's single? What kind of response did you get?
Confirmed single, that one I know.
Lukewarm normal response ie nothing to show that she's excited that I'm msging her, the kind that goes "oh having dinner haha, why?". I don't msg her on the mobile regularly anyway, most of our contact is through MSN, despite the fact that we live 5 minutes away from each other and go to the same school (but different faculties ARGH).
there are so many coincidences b/w us I just feel it's fated.
>>464
probably a family or social event
maybe a girl's night out in town; akin to freshie's guy's night out
Turned out it rained heavily, so luckily it didnt go through lol. And guys' night out wasn't too bad, anyway happy new year single men!
Anyway I haven't wish her happy new year, should I? I thought maybe I would inject a little unpredictability. After all, I did wish her merry christmas and to have a good trip when she went overseas.
No reason why not.
>>467
Don't forget to let us know how it goes if you do. We need DETAILS!
Bah. Too much joy. We're all loners.
I don't see any joy in this thread. Just a lot of stories left hanging.
Okay, a better word would be "excitement".
I miss the depression and the moaning and the dwelling.
mabye, they went on for a solution for themselves? or, it ended, and they dont wanna bother posting the end to it?
anyway, i got a story. how do you meet girls when you're 16? just, im totally baffled, i have no idea, clueless. seriously, any places you could reccomend i go, or whatever? im stumped. girls in my school regard me as a friend (nothing else, nothing less, nothing more, closed off), or, i just dont like their personality. lol, really, im just, totally clueless. think i should just wait till im in college? but ah, age is still years without a girlfriend. ive really, walked all over town, hung out at several different places, gone out to meet different people, but, like, i just dont see any girls my age at all even! ahhh wonder what to do, ill stay inside.......
Where have you tried too meet girls?
everywhere, seriously....lol, and i dont mean nerdy bookstore places or game stores either, if thats what youre thinking. just, alot of places
It has been about two weeks since I posted here. Unfortunately, at least for some of the people on this board, I have not followed up on the plan which I developed together with 4-ch dwellers. The reason may sound lame to the adventurous, and perhaps ridiculous to others. However, since there were so many friendly souls here who tried to help, I feel an obligation to them to at least share this reason.
Even though my last few posts on this board were positive, I began to have doubts about the plan. The plan was excellent and might well achieve the goal I had set: to make a friendly, intelligent and pretty girl become interested in me and contact me. You guys helped me develop the plan and gave me strength, and for that I thank you. full stop.
But then what? After some no doubt exciting time we might become a couple? It sounds strange but the prospect does not motivate me. Does a man necessarily have to find a woman to share his life with? For that is what it means to become a couple, at least to me. I do not feel ready to share my life yet, I am content with being single. I did not tell you before that I live far away from my parents, I visit them only every three months. Perhaps you can imagine that it takes some time to adjust to a selfsustaining lifestyle - I have to do everything myself. With all the difficulties arising from this, I feel it to be premature to look for a romance.
Due to the above objections, I aborted the plan. It is too early and I don't want any of it as of yet. I apologize for the disappointment. Again, thanks to all of you who helped me. I will no longer participate in this board until, perhaps, I truly want to start a relation.
I'm so fucking busy with school there's nothing much to update. Went home with her the other day, though it was only by coincidence, but seriously, school's taking up like 70% of my time. This sucks.
>>476
That's perfectly understandable. Please continue to participate in this board anyway; leaving it is not necessary.
Makes sense to me, if you in your heart are not ready for that type of thing, then don't worry about it. When the time is right it will happen and then you will have to act.
THOUGH I ENJOY MY SINGLE LIFE I AM STARTING TO GET SEXUAL FRUSTRATION
>>480
amen to that
There's really no reason to post anymore. >>480 already summarized everything that will ever be said in this thread.
Cut thread here
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>>476
No need to apologize, it's your life. If you don't want to get into a relationship, our opinion is irrelevant. Please don't feel you have to leave 4-ch entirely, you're one of the more articulate people here.
Do keep her address stashed somewhere though, in case you ever change your mind ;D.
oh my goddess i think i have done it broken out my singularity and now had a god damm girl friend
>>487 confirmed i an no longer single
Hey guys, been a while.
On saturday (the twelfth,) it's the girls birthday.
She invited me to her party, and said I could bring friends.
As you may have understood from my earlier posts, I'm not really the guy for parties.
I'm not really sure what kind of party this'll be, but considering she said there'll be around 70 people (including many of her male friends i don't know) I have a pretty good idea.
Also, of my friends, I can only imagine one who would want to go (and it's not likely),and I don't want to turn up there alone when nobody knows who the fuck I am, and I'll stand in the corner looking goofy and then leave early.
I actually want to go, but I don't really know what to expect.
Maybe I worry too much.
Anyway, I'll probably go, probably not.
>>487
Give us the DETAILS!
>>493
gasp! lol, you should drag ur friend to come along, least one person with you anyway, it does ease the pain. or, well, try and meet new people? and eeeeeeeeeeeee, ive been in those situations before, and they ARE rough, but, just, gotta try and meet new people, and try and possibly get that moment alone with her =P, thats all i can think of i suppose....
tall order...
Do your best and hopefully get some alcohol in your system. Should help you relax
Of all the days of the week I can ask her out, I choose the one when she's the busiest. Awesome!
>>496
Dude, you'll get another chance, seriously.
I'm too shy. I never know how to approach girls.
Welcome to the club. (´･ω･`) sigh
I'm the 500th lonely guy on 4-ch.
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waaah, we could have at least taken this one to 1000 before closing it!
I HATE BEING SINGLE!!!
I also hate my friend who steals all girls I want.
I really hope the people who were reading/posting to this thread are on the new thread, now :(
and i just thought of joining this thread
really hope that someone replies to this, need to rant too
there this girl, who ive been close to for about a few months but weve been nothing but friends. in fact weve been considering ourselves as brother sisters, she treats me like an older brother and vice versa.
the thing is, i somehow wanted more out of this, i actually wanted to have a real relationship with her, i really think i got a chance. but then a month ago she just got another bf. i tried to not care but i cant overlook the fact that i am a bit jealous and wished i told her my feelings.
now i cant seem to get her out of my mind. even though i dont want to think about someone elses girl, she keeps on getting into my head. everytime i get online i wished that her name comes online, everytime the phone rings i wished it was her. not sure what going on with me.
i probably know this wont go far but i just need someone to tell me somethine about this. thinking by myself doesnt usually see the situation from another perspective..need some opinions
Please go to http://4-ch.net/love/.
that's sad to hear B bro..same sort of thing happened to me to. Just that my girlfriend stopped her loving towards me..then she one day called me over skype and told me that she felt that I was more like a brother to her..what a bummer!
I hate my single life. I get so depressed seeing gfs & bfs on the street and in Japanese Dramas. (-__-)......(T__T)
>>512 Make happier text faces and girls will like you!
were like in densha otoko story
I had to break up with my girlfriend because her parents didn't want her to go out with an european guy (she's chinese).
Ridiculous, isn't it...
>>516
You should've told her parents that you would have hot eurasian babies.
Haha, well, I wouldn't have been posting here if I did that, now would I? （´∀｀）
You know Densha Otoko was a great love story! Why don't you go out and make your own love stories come true. Nothing will be solved by just sitting around and hoping that your own story of life will take a sudden twist and you'll be right in the center of your own story! This is like a RPG game! The story won't move forward unless you use your own will and make it move forward. All my life I've been waiting for love to come to me, now I see that it won't come unless I invoke it! Try your best! If someone doesn't make the first move in chess then the conclusion will never happen.
Too much Games/Drama references... must...resist...murderous...urges...
But you're right, >>519, you are right. :)
NOOOoooooooooOOOOOOOoo
Why am I here!!! :/
Is being in love such a great thing, that we obsess over it so much?
Of course! For without someone to love there is no way we as humans will be able to strive for life itself!
Who told you people that you could revive this thread?!
I just joined so I wasn't sure if this thread was dead or alive.
yeah I know I meant I just joined "in" not literally join.
>>524 Don't be an ass, alright. We posted in this topic because you can't leave a question unanswered. So sit down and let us socialize.
i was obsesed with a girl and now that i lost her, i feel so lonley....
i was obsessed with a girl... now she wants to be friends with me and i'm trying to explain to her that i really do want to be friends with her, but i can't.
she's not making it easy...
is this thing still going on? i just did a little google and i stumbled upon this site..
btw i just watched densha otoko =P
and.. i hate being single.
This thread says so much about imageboards in general.
I think I learned rather quickly that you're not supposed to let a woman know you like her, at least until you're sure she likes you.
It's getting her to like you, without letting you know that you like her, that's the problem...
...and even if you can do that, it's hard to know when it's OK to admit.
>>536
I found that being highly social, but otherwise ignoring the issue of women, worked pretty well. Go out, have fun, be friendly, be seen.
That way it works in reverse: some women will inevitably like you. Once you notice who (might), then you can decide whether the reverse applies. Everyone has a good time in the meantime.
BAWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWW!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I am in the friend zone with a female i was trying to woo.
I love masturbating
Problem with being a single guy: if you go out alone, you have the stink of death on you. Unless you can somehow convince yourself to look happy, the only people you'll meet are cell phone salesmen.
im an english otaku, so i kno theres no hope for me in this world lol...
I have to do a project for college by tomorrow, guess I'd better get startede
I have to do a project for college by tomorrow, guess I'd better get started
Sorry. I've betrayed you all, too...
I'm not good with words, so I can't lay it all out well, but...
This thread has WAY too much magical power...
Glory to you all...
Today I went to Akihabara. I didn't have anything specific I wanted to buy, but...
On the train ride home there was a drunk old man on the train.
Almost everyone in our car was women, except for me, who was sitting, and the old man, who was hanging from the hand-rails.
They were all between 20 - 40, I guess.
The old man started getting in the faces of the women around him.
At first he was messing with a younger woman, but she was very straightforward,
hollered at the old man, and then got off at the very next station.
During all this, I keep glancing at him out of the corner of my eye, thinking what an annoyance he was causing.
Next the old man comes to the seat I'm on, goes straight to the middle part of it
and starts yelling at the older women who're sitting there.
"You'd better not even think about using a cell phone, you got it!?"
he goes, trying to scare them.
The women were like（´･ω･`)←all quiet
I think this is going to get long...
o lawd, iz dat some Densha Otaku?
Despite the eponymous poster being an otaku, he was known as Densha Otoko ("Train Man").
>>552
Lots of people make that mistake. I've heard people say it IRL too.
lolcocks
>>553
You call it a "mistake," I prefer to think of it as a more accurate choice of words.
I've wasted my 20's.
あげる
I've wasted my 10's.
hey guys,
a few days ago i finished watching the japanese drama 'densha otoko'. i was wondering if the 'aladdin channel' would really exist so i tried out and found this. but this isn't the original site or??
i hope someone replies soon. ıt seems like this board wasn't used for a long time.
bye!!! :) greets from turkey
WTF???
densha otoko was cliche, get a life everyone and move on.
being single is good! with the current situation of the world, where everybody seems to be the evil itself, being single is a true path to redemption!
and nothing else fun than laughing at stupid couples who fights each other day by day while you being alone, gets your wealth, your skills unquestioned!
hi all, i found the drama very touching, and i would like to experience something so touching, as yamada did, it was very brave of him to help her, i will try be more courageous through life from now on.
Nooo, don't do it. Falling in love and getting a girlfiend is like losing your pride/independence. Forever you will be chained and lose your freedom. In everything you will have to listen to here. DON'T GO TOWARDS THE LIGHT!!! NOOOOOOO!!!!!!
Tell me more about your private life.
Who said you need to get girlfriend who is nothing more than a bitch?
>>566
The answer is contained in the definition of the words.
It looks like this thread has die, I've read through all the message, and looks like MSN otoko has left us!and some others also!
I wish that we don't have leave this thread, I was hoping this thread would be a place were guys need support, but now recently no one needs some support, but we are all here to support everyone!
haha is this thread like the densa otoko like 4rm the manga (^o^) koool
is asking for 5 minutes of time from woman at 9pm and not getting a reply a rejection?
I hope there will be support for you.
women are bs, i was going to ask out a girl yesterday, she was there for the first half of the school day and left during lunch, wtf, now i gotta wait another week.
Hahaha, sorry about laughing at you I know what you mean.
that is why boys have hard time getting girls unless you got talent.
To kurukurupa: I guess that would be a rejection, but don't worry, there are others girls out there for you! ;)
Hang in there single males! Real life can be tough going sometimes but it can also change really quickly.
On a different note my friend who used to be a player but has been with the same girl for over a year now keeps telling me just how free single life is. He's always complaining about couples life. He has to do this and that. She's always asking why he's not paying attention to her when he's playing games. Gosh, is that how it becomes after a couple months?? Somehow that has become my motivation to not be motivated to stay open to the possibility of a relationship. Did that even make sense??
You are all my friends.
Why does this thread have so many posts?
Because it's about single men bitching about their lonely miserable, pathetic lives.
Hi my name is Ted Rea. I live in Shattuck Oklahoma. Im divorced and single and I have raped women. I cant help it. I get them drunk or slip them a pill and when they pass out I take their clothes off and have sex with them. I dont know why I do it but I do every chance I get. Call me if you wouldnt mind passing out and letting me have sex with you Im afraid Im going to get into trouble if I keep doing it with women I meet. Here is my cell phone number 580-938-0014
>>579
I don't know why, but this made me crack up.
Your all single for a reason! becuse your always on the computer! all of you need to get out and start hanging with people or going out. you need the light you pack of vampires.... or mabey your all fugly who knows?
fag
What is more superficial, rejecting a woman because she is unattractive or rejecting a man because he hasn't got money or isn't an "alpha male"?
The numbers of men and women are about 50/50, for every loser living in his mom's basement there is some fat chick out there who is wondering why there seem to be more women than men and ends up getting fucked by douches just wanting to get their dick wet in the hopes of it turning into a real relationship.
Do you think they enjoy being treated like a piece of meat? They open their legs because they think they will receive companionship and love in return then they get ditched, or worse cheated on, the moment their boyfriend finds someone better.
You can debate all you want about who has it worse. We value physical intimacy more than a romantic relationship, so that might skew our perception of things. Whatever the truth is, an ideal relationship is reciprocal, if you want someone to love you for being a loser you need to learn to love chunky bitches. If you want sex you have to do more than be a "beta orbiter", you need to step out of your comfort zone and try to show your social dominance and gregarious nature. If she doesn't reciprocate and puts you in the "friendzone" then you need to accept your relationship isn't working, instead of obsessing over your sweetheart you need to think about the women who weren't blessed with qt3.14 genetics and offer your love to someone else.
Who knows, maybe after seeing you leave her, moving on and getting with other women she might see you in a different light, then you can tell her she missed her chance.
I dont kniw what are you trying to say, but unattractive women have no chance with ANYONE.
I wonder what op is doing today.
i dunno, I actually went on a date with a girl a bit ago but she was kinda just boring and i had no desire to hang out with her.
I want a partner, one I can spend my life with but I cant be with a boring person with 0 hobbies even if they're hot
So I just stopped texting her. Too bad, she was nice but i'll try for someone else in the future
I met a 19 yo girl today totally randomly. She seemed genuinely interested in me, gave me a shit ton of random compliments. She even blushed a few times and looked really disappointed when I told her I had to leave. Didn't occur to my retarded loner brain that I was supposed to ask her number orz
She was just fucking staring at me expecting me to ask her FUCK. I could have had some hot teen, but now I'm back to being sexually harassed by a middle aged co-worker who is a divorcee with two kids. Why am I so retarded?
>>595
That 19 year old girl would have been all sorts of trouble that you can't even fathom at the moment. Trust me, anon. You've seriously dodged a bullet.
>>596
Sure, but I coulda got laid and enjoyed that sweet 19 yo pussy. FUCK.
I'm completely indifferent to being single.
I just want close friendship.
>>597
If you care about younger pussy. Just go to some third world shithole and really test your morals then you sick fuck.
>>599
Daily reminder that for the vast majority of human existence, pubescent people were commonly treated as adults but they weren't considered adults by default. Pubescent people normally had to complete some kind of ritual to adulthood. This means that there were pubescent people who were considered adult and were socially eligible to start their own family, own some land and businesses, command people, etc. It was only in the recent age when there were laws that declared by fiat that the age of 18 was the age of the majority (adulthood).
>>599
I’m 22 you moralizing asshole and last time I checked 19 is above the age of consent.
19 is grandma-tier wtf are you talking about
>I'm 22
So? Find a 32 year old woman to be your mommy gf. Trust me, she'll take better care of you and make you pancakes after draining your balls.
Fuck Valentine’s Day soon. Fuck I hate that! It’s even shallower than Christmas! I hate girls. They’re all bitches and whores anyway.
I love to make a card for my sweetie-pie every St. Valentine's Day
Valentine's day sucks. literally the shallowest most emotionally exploitative day in the consumer holiday pantheon. A time where companies psychologically blackmail people into buying stuff and shame you if your single.
>>607
In reality, that's all holidays anymore which has been much more aggressive in more recent years compared to the past.
>>608
True but valentines feel like knife in the heart. They literally shame you for being a loner or just being single. It’s like society is bullying you into it. I don’t give a shit about Christmas but I hate being reminded that I’ve never been in a relationship thanks to crippling social anxiety and now that I’m nearly 30 it’s pretty much over.
>>609
I just stopped giving a shit. I haven't got a gift from anyone including family since 2010.
You all say you hate being single but the truth is, if you landed your perfect dream girl you'd be just as unhappy as you realize a relationship is not all that it's chalked up to be. Especially when your girl demands you divert rent money for her designer handbags, when she begins cutting you off from friends, when she starts shitting on your weeb hobbies etc. What you really want is:
A. Companionship
B. Someone to fuck
Well for A just make female friends and acquaintances you can share interests and feelings with. As for B buy a hooker or, if your cheap, ol' faithful right hand and an internet connection. Either way, don't go looking for both in the same person, don't shit where you eat basically.
>>611
Hard truths here. I've been in a relationship with the same woman for 17 years. It's soul sucking and miserable. Marriage isn't worth it. The only reason why I don't leave is because divorce would absolute wreck me. We barely even have sex and when we do it's a soulless chore that she doesn't even get into. I tried to do my part in being romantic until that was never going to work or be good enough for her. So I just bend her over and do a quick pump and dump. She passes out and I get on my computer which I end up usually fapping at some point throughout the night just to actually feel some damn pleasure in a dopamine sense. I've been wishing I was single for over a decade.
>>611,612 Sounds like you both made some poor choices, rather than there being an inherent problem with marriage.
>your girl demands you divert rent money for her designer handbags, when she begins cutting you off from friends, when she starts shitting on your weeb hobbies etc.
Just don't marry someone like this, simple! Everyone else, try going on a few dates with someone before proposing to them, and look out for any red flags like that.
“But what if I'm colourblind and red flags look the same as green flags?” Hmmm I can't help you with that, sorry
>>611
Sucks to be you all I'm gay and he's great for both
I've always been single, but I haven't had any true "single guy moments" that rocked in years, since I've been swamped with work since the start of the decade. Traveling and seeing live music were my favorite things to do as a single dude, but I can't do either now, since I'm too poor to travel, and there's no live music in my state anymore except in fucking boston, since the pandemic killed everything cool in my area
All those bastards at work are quietly mocking me for not having anyone for valentines fucking bastards
So?
I don't hate Valentine's day all it does is remind me that I'm an awkward as fuck loner and have been since I entered high school. Now I'm a kissless virgin who's never even had a conversation with a female that wasn't family nevermind a date. At nearly 30, I am now too developmentally retarded to have a functioning relationship with anyone and no matter what I try it doesn't work. Would it even matter anyway? When I was 8 year old being socially awkward was cute, when I was 18 it was a personal problem, by the time your 28 all people think is that your creepy and they avoid you like your a infected with AIDS. All Valentine's day does is remind you how lonely you are and shame you for it.
not nice.
>>620
You sound like a fag. Either man up or off yourself already. You talk like 28 is the end you not a 70 something year old with your skin falling off. Stop being such a pussy. Because if you put off off having a relationship now at 28 you’ll end up in a situation where it really is too late and even a hooker won’t jump on your scaly old man shrivelled cucumber dick.
Having sex is a good way to get AIDS no thanks
>>626
Having sex and cumming inside of a hairy vagina is a good way to feel good.
I hate being single but if I had a woman I know she’d only drag me out to do stupid normie activities with her and force me to get a job. No thank you.
>>628 You know that you can find humans into all sorts of things, and being female doesn't mean they automatically only like normie things? You can find someone who would want to do activities you'd like with you, but I think you need to grow a bit first
>>630
In sealed plastic bags in the trash behind abortion clinics
>>630
You used to be able to find them playing DDR at arcades in the 2000s.
Why do male loners really want girl friends when they hate being around other humans?
>>633
Regardless of how much people hate being around others. Sex is pleasurable and losers like us still want to stick our dicks inside of hot wet pussy and cum like the beasts we are.
Turn your hand into a muppet and use that.
>>634
>>635
Exactly! If people can scratch that itch with porn, toys and hookers, why are they still obsessed with a girlfriend? And when a lot of people talk about having a girlfriend, a lot of the time they’re not talking about sex but this desire to be loved. But why do people who hate other humans suddenly want one specific kind of human to love them? Is this just hardwired into us and unavoidable?
>>636
Sex and masturbating aren't even close. Having a sexual partner that you fuck on a regular basis is a much more meaningful experience as well. I got to experience it first hand myself in the late 2000s. I was in a relationship with a girl and we had sex everyday for close to two years until I was devastated by finding out that she had been cheating on me. Literally had some guy sneaking in and out of her bedroom window right before I was coming over. I got pissed, had a psychotic episode, ended our relationship, and went to go get checked for STDs a few times for the next year. The worst part is that was back in the 2000s. I can only imagine how bad trust is with women now days with how rampant social media has taken hold in their lives. Having an endless supply of people they could choose from to have sex with. It's no wonder that so many people from Generation Z can't find relationships or even a sexual partner in the opposite sex. The dating pool has become so clouded and dirty nobody even wants to bother to swim. I think the only true remedy to this pain is robo waifus.
>>633
Some people like wishing for things, but never actually trying to realize them. They'll act really conflicted about their emotions, but really they've resigned themselves to an life of mediocrity, content to just imagine what a better life would be like.
I've noticed that a lot more of these people tend to be online, likely because it's a lot easier to just be passive and voyeuristic without a physical presence.
"Other humans" come in many shapes and sizes, and I guess I still haven't given up hope that I'll be able to find somebody I can be alone together with...
I wonder if OP ever got married.
I’ve basically given up hope. I don’t even have irl friends and have never made any never mind a gf. I don’t think genuine human contact is even possible nowadays. Everything is mediated by social media apps and their culture of fakery.
>>638
The internet feeds people’s fantasies without giving them the tools to act on them. We see images of people with happy families, friends, relationships etc. and it’s easier to just down yourself in that because actually going out there is becoming more and more difficult. It’s easier to just lock yourself up in a bubble and consume anime and VNs than go out there and get your heart broken.
>>640
I hope so but probably not.
Honestly, I can't afford an S.O., Male or Female the food and housing costs are too damn high.