Considering its age, how come this imageboard isn't talked about a lot
text? what are you, some kind of ancientfag?
Who uses text anymore? I only communicate exclusively through tenor gifs and emojis
Because 4-ch has a very similar name to a certain popular imageboard. It’s a textboard and those have never been popular outside of Japan for the same reasons why retards and kids prefer picture books.
>It’s a textboard and those have never been popular outside of Japan for the same reasons why retards and kids prefer picture books
So do you want to say that people in Japan are super-humans that don't like picture books? Considering the popularity of anime and related stuff in Japan, you are probably wrong.
>>8
Literally this. just add upvotes and downvotes and user accounts and it will become popular. western "culture" needs to be flushed down the fucking toilet and BRICS might just be hand that finally pushes the flusher.
Honestly?
OR
I realize that admins are probably burnt out as fuck at this point. So nothing will change. But this website is great for web archeology.
4chan out grew 4-ch for two main reasons: 1. images 2. porn. That's literally it. Western culture is a visual culture and a hedonist masturbation oriented society. The reason 4channel isn't as well known now is because Western textboards are dying, 4-ch never attracted the media attention that the imageboards earned and the people who use this site don't want 4channers (or worse) coming here and spamming the boards with their culture wars retardation.
image boards are just a natural evolution of the text board format. Even then, 4cuck is basically the only popular image board (still around at least, 8chan is basically a walking corpse now)
Text boards are just a part of the old internet. One that will die out, eventually. The image board too may die out one day, even among younger generations not as many people use 4chan compared to instagram, tiktok or even twitter. Twitter especially is not too dissimilar to an image board when you think about it, just far more streamlined and with accounts to show people how popular you are.
I think human psychology is the second reason. It's much more rewarding to get 20 upvotes on reddit, or 20 likes on twitter, compared to a text board which is not too dissimilar to an anonymous forum. The reason Reddit won out over most other forums is its upvote feature. Text boards rarely net you lots of (you)'s unless you troll.
>>14
Steam Forums added the Reddit upvote downvote system except that you have to pay to use it.
Hate this because you get more people downvoting you for not having popular opinion and you have people purposely being stupid to get these dumb awards.
This upvote downvote system needs to die.
>>15
Most Steam forum posts/reviews as you say are either bait, circlejerk, or jokes. None of which are helpful. Steam forum is definitely one of the worst forums out there, designed by someone who has no idea how to make a forum, the design doesn't help, and nor do the users.
I agree too, the upvote system is shit. Likes can be helpful, for example determining the quality of a video on youtube or something, though I think the old rating system is a far better method. Generally though likes are bad too.
>>12,14 Clueless plebs, you don't know wtf you're talking about. Some of the opinions and lack of knowledge ITT made me laugh
how many posters do we need for faggots like OP to shut up
>>19
why so many faggots named Heaven up in this bitch?
>>18 It doesn't work like that. You need to enlighten yourself.
This is not the reason why textboards are not popular.
>>23
Very interesting, do go on...
I actually quite like seeing this now and then, some dimwit hangs around for a while, loudly says they don't get it while make some superficial observations, then they get bored and piss off, and the balance is restored
Sometimes I'm just pretending to be a teenage n00b for a laugh and a giggle
I find the textboard way to number and organize posts superior. The way each thread has its own post numbers and how you can do advanced view links like showing only specific posts and stuff. It allows to cleanly view quotes in a separate page without JavaScript. That pleases my pseudoautism. You can create a page with the posts you want and then just Ctrl+S save the page, and it just werks! Saved exactly what I want super quick for later access. That's glorious. On imageboards, saving threads locally is a lot more involved if you want to save the files and posts.
Another cool thing textboards have going for them is very low resource usage and liability because it's all just text. Digital sovereignty, resiliency, and footprint are important. 4chan uses normie-pozzed third party stuff like Cloudflare and requires Coinbase to buy a Pass. Using it over anonymity networks like Tor and I2P is very sub-optimal. Thanks to the low resource usage of textboards, it's possible to do without stuff like Cloudflare, making it easier to host despite attempts to take it down, and allow smooth Tor/I2P access. In fact you could make it darknet only, it will load fast enough.
My ideal anonymous board would be a textboard but with arbitrary file attachments added on top, if that makes sense. File thumbnails would be generated where appropriate. A different, parallel evolution into an "image" board.
Test
Mobile experience is awful. Most web connections today are from mobile, and 4-ch supports no responsive view. Also, posting from mobile doesn't work sometimes.
>>27
Kareha already does this, but you would have to monitor it pretty constantly to avoid pizza delivery.
>pseudoautism
I have bad news for you, anon...
>>29
Good. Phoneposters ruined the internet and shouldn't be catered to.
>>33
More sites should block them and it's fairly easy to do.
>wants textboard to be more popular
>resists all change
I guess the question is, how does 4-ch stay 4-ch while adapting to survive as a niche 2channel clone? It's like gatekeeping, where exactly do we draw the line? There need to be some functional improvements, but that doesn't mean morphing into Reddit. But what do you want really? Do you want textboards to be more popular or do you want it to remain in a niche closeted semi-dead thing?
>>33
Phoneposters didn't ruin the internet, people have been posting online from handhelds for years. Hell, to log in on old minicomputers you had to call dial the computer's number with a telephone with one of those old rotary dialers. Usenet used dial up connections and telephone modems. Fuck, if you really wanna stretch things the Sumerians and Babylonians were the first to use tablets. The internet always sucked, but it's trashy today for more than one reason. Smartphones shouldn't be catered to at the expense of PCs, but providing basic mobile functionality is important.
>>wants textboard to be more popular
>adapting to survive as a niche 2channel clone
>There need to be some functional improvements
You don't know what you're talkin' about, daddio
The question is, why isn’t it more popular with dinosaurs and nostalgics who post on other retro sites? Because textboards came to the West after imageboards had taken off, so there are less people who want to go back and use a site like 4-ch.
>>35
People come here for nostalgia and to casually fling shit like a chimp who got no banana not to improve the site and make it competitive or whatever. It’s supposed to be the English version of 2channel and that’s how it should stay.
>>37
Somehow, I get the impression that dinosaurs and nostalgics are a) a small fucking market to begin with, and b) Probably already all post here.
Srsly, I don't get it. This is a textboard. In the year of our lord 2023. It's not going to be popular unless the landscape of the internet gets an insanely radical shaking up. Plus, why would you even want it to be popular. Have you seen how shitty popular websites are? I'm fine with the amount of traffic we get now, thanks.
>People come here for nostalgia and to casually fling shit like a chimp who got no banana not to improve the site and make it competitive or whatever
I'm here for free speech without media distraction.
Oh, I'm posting this from my iPhone 14, while taking a good shit. >>35 is right, 4-ch could innovate to compete, but no one cares, it's still a 1990's website with small improvements from 2000's.
>>40
Tbh a bit more traffic wouldn’t hurt.
>>41
Yeah, fuck competition! Society is all about competition, productivity etc I come here to escape that!
That being said, there are some improvements that could be made to make it a comfier site, like an overboard that shows the most active threads, better mobile functionality etc. but those are small things.
>>43
Those "improvements" will only make teenagers too comfortable and degrade the site.
Can't make teenagers too uncomfortable either, you will want new users sooner or later.
Can wait until they are adults. I was an adult when I first came here and they can do the same. If I wanted to interact with a bunch of teenagers I would download an app, not open an old textboard.
>like an overboard that shows the most active threads
Just take a look for yourself? Why do you even need to know which threads are active?
Someone should just aggregate all the biggest text boards from around the world: what’s left of 2channel, 5channel, 4-ch, world2ch, the whole bunch of obscure Japanese BBS into one massive, multi-lingual, multi-national site. It’ll be 2channel 2.0 but works without JS, no containment boards, document format embed, autoban for linking to discord, enable Tor posting and global rules and moderation designed to keep the cancer and social media retards off. No /pol/tards, no porn addict culture, no gender transition fetishism or Twitter retards. Advertise it as anonymous, private and secure communication without the moderation issues of Reddit.
>>48
Yes I am sure users would be very happy to get a bunch of different cultures all bunched together and then flooded with people who don't respect anything. Great idea.
>>49
Moderation and site structure is key. With the right global and board specific rules and good admin, you can fix that. Reddit is the way it is because of how it’s moderated, same with 4chan. The most obvious step is to control posting from smartphone useragents and autoban linking and invites to Twitter, Discord, Facebook, Reddit or 4chan. Right there we’ve solved most of the problem. Implementing a ban on posts that are against board culture will keep out undesirables. 90% of normalfags would stay away from a textboard anyway.
>Moderation and site structure is key.
>Reddit is the way it is because of how it’s moderated, same with 4chan.
Great contradiction, but i'm sure when you do it it will be done right, right?
>The most obvious step is to control posting from smartphone useragents and autoban linking and invites to Twitter, Discord, Facebook, Reddit or 4chan.
Hell, better idea is to gatekeep the website by making it offline.
Your 10% so called non-normalfags are not gonna migrate from 4-ch or whatever other dead website they stay put on to some old internet wanna-be website run by your average "i hate the new internet just like u guyz" person that come and go on this website.
Time and time again I always see people crying and whining about the new internet and how it sucks and is ruined and every solution they propose is hardly any better than how these new website are.
Sure, filtering out undesirables helps a bit, but you're never going to be able to filter out all of them unless you go private and have strict vetting, which clashes with the whole anonymous aspect.
Instead of complaining about the cultural and generational shift of the web, create something new and hopefully influence future shifts in a more positive direction. Everything declines, you can either succumb to it, maintain it or move on and create something new. Such is life.
>>48
Isn’t that basically what kuz was doing with kolyma BBS?
>>55
Emperor KHAN Wouldn't talk about himself like that
captcha: quiey
Moot and Kuz are the reason this site isn’t more popular.
>>59
for teenagers, please stay there.
captcha: nighere
>>53
I agree with this. Attention attracts attention. So it tends to coalesce around main hubs. I just came back to check this place out after years because I forgot about it. Theres's new management and everything and last time I was here it was squeaks. But the slower pace does have its own advantages and drawbacks.
>>60
Agreed. The majority of Heyunigheres are lamers, especially the SW bunch. I occasionally see some interesting posters when lurking, but they do give off an "holier than thou aura" that is off putting.
>>62
They do have a rule which forbids users from posting greentext, soyjaks, general threads etc which really improves the quality
Some posts are just annoying oldfag "DESU" crap which is allowed, but there is also quality discussion a lot of the time, depends on the thread really
There are teenagers there but they're on every existing imageboard anyway
It may not be perfect but still it's one of the only good imageboards left just due to the quality and activity
It used to be more popular, but Textboards died out for a few reasons. Even Imageboards aren't as big as they once were when Reddit, Twitter and Discord became big.
>>63
It would be better without the retarded old school cancer and porn, but that would probably kill off most of the activity.
>>67
Cancer and porn is all the internet exists for these days.
Heyurians are cute and funny!
>>70
But this website exists solely for advertising of other boards.
>>71
So what are some good altchans and BBSes, anyways?
Heyuri is the only nostalgia site I can stand. Rule 8 should be implemented on this site.
>>72
Where most discussions are not about why it's not popular.
really a shame this forum isn't used anymore, I'm glad I got to see it tho
Kekus Maximus
>>72
Arisuchan used to be good. No idea what happened to it. There’s also Heyuri and Danger/u.
tell me more about Heyuri and Danger/u
Heyuri's selling point isn't just rule 8, it is the staff actually enforcing it. Likewise, you will probably get banned if you don't actually read the rules before posting
>>80
I don't think they ever told the reason why it shut down
how make money on textboard. how get textboard money to pay living wage.
420chan is coming back soon
>>88
Check the site. There’s been an update. Kirt sold it to hotwheels but he’s still going to admin.
This imageboard isn't popular because it doesn't get mentioned on other imageboards enough. Also there is a lack of darkmode.
>>90 Not sure if this is a sarcastic joke... I lol'd anyway XD
I like kind.moe myself as well. It's not "nostalgia oriented" like Heyuri is or anything, but it's still a chill and nice place to hang out.
>>92
Hello friend! Nice to see you in other place :›
I'm lurking in the shadows on most boards! Hello.
Nooooo. It was one of favourite boards because everyone was very nice there. Yet another board lost. RIP.
I hope someone will take the reigns and make another iteration. I have experience hosting boards and have time and money I could dedicate to hosting one. But hmm...
>>96
It wasn't that nice anymore. I quit a while back because I didn't recognize it anymore and going to a kind place and just seeing the same people make the same dumb aggressive christian moralization because they really think it's important on a tiny imageboard just felt worse than seeing those same dumb posts anywhere else where such people are expected. Who wants to be lectured by retards on imaginary morals based on a corrupted book written by corrupted humans and not be able to call them retards back? So the retards post retarded shit over and over and you just ignore them leading other retards to think that retardation is welcome and potentially old culture interested people are turned off and don't stay and suddenly it's only retards who think retardation is culture and that they are fighting a culture war on worlds smallest imageboard.
/jp/ boards rule, /pol/christians drool.
I've already thought about developing an new imageboard, but I figured no one would want to come.