This wouldn't make sense to someone who doesn't understand what I am saying. Which, I think, is a good a thing?
I'm a self-proclaimed INTP, ILE, 5w6, 548
I just realized 3 minutes ago how, throughout my entire life, I have tried to understand other personalities (because it's necessary for relationships), at least enough to learn their intentions and motivations. Yet frankly, I still cannot proclaim that I understand myself well enough. In the fiction and media I consume, Te, Fe, Fi, and Ni are mostly prominent. There are no Ti main characters, and if there are, they are painted as robots or inconsiderate logical jerks.
I grew up without any Fe, Ne, and Ti surrounding me. The culture of my society also doesn't prioritize Ti enough.
Basically, I want more Ti people to learn about. Or learn "with"
The MBTI is like astrology for psychologists, so you're worrying about something silly.
Have you considered taking lessons yourself? Otherwise I'd just invest in a pair of good headphones, or convince your parents to pay for some extracurricular activity. Or do your homework outdoors!
Why don't you negotiate a time table? Instead of 2-3 hours straight she gives you 1 hour of silence in between so its not as intense. Maybe ask her to only start her classes an hour after you get home from skool?
I think the solution to this problem you're facing is RAPE
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Basically I'm tired of being a loner, I basically have no friends irl, and I'm afraid I'm going to die alone. I've tried hanging out with weirdos but I end up just sitting alone talking to no one and I feel like those groups always disband. I've also tried niche ass dating apps, but never had any lasting relationship. What do I do?
I know your pain. For me, it is hard to even relate to other people. I simply do not understand what's in their hearts. I do not understand why they do the things that they do or how they find happiness in the things that make them happy, and I have the feeling that I will never be able to understand. We do not even understand ourselves fully, don't we? So how could we possibly hope to understand our peers, then?
But at least I can find some solace in anonymous message boards, where I can express myself without the fear of ridicule that is omnipresent in the real world. It is sad to know that the only authentic connections I can have are with faceless nobodies from the internet, but what can I do?
Regarding your last question ("What do I do?"), you cannot do anything. You cannot change people to suit your needs, you either accept them as they are or you don't. The problem is not with you, but with the vanity and shallowness of other people. They refuse to be genuine with you, and if you try to be genuine with them they will either mock you or use you for their own benefit. Try to become happier alone, you should ditch social interactions in favor of self-cultivation. Save yourself, and you might be able to save a lucky few who see through the vanity of this world.
If it helps OP, get a pet or a plant. I grow roses and talk to them when I feel alone. I treat them as my friends. I can't say I have an answer to your problem since I suffer from it too. I just disagree with >>2 because if you take that attitude you will only end up pushing people away when they are trying to befriend you or become arrogant and bitter. Try to find joy in the small things in life and the stuff you actually have power over.
OP, the main thing to focus on is not giving up. If you give up, you will definitely ‘lose’. I'm kinda a loner myself, but I've been able to find friends (online/offline), so I'll give a few tips.
The most important is to find friends who have the same hobbies as you. If you hang out around something you like (for example, tennis (bear with me!)), then people will naturally start gravitating towards you. This may be tricky if you don't have RL hobbies, but there's nothing preventing online relationships from spilling offline. If you have the option, you could try to go to a university/college or finding a job.
Obviously, there's the issue of you sitting alone talking to no-one...and the only advice I can give there is that you have to force yourself to engage. If you have trouble talking to others, practice at home first...start talking to yourself, or talking to a pet, a plant (as >>3 suggests), some stuffed animal (if you have a teddy bear) or literally whatever. If you're scared of having trouble with dialogue, then try talking to some AI like ChatGPT (but don't let yourself get addicted to it! only use it for small bits of practice!). Since I get the impression you want to talk aloud, read your own messages aloud after you send them to the AI. Also, don't be an ass and try to understand the POV of others (I'm assuming you're smart enough for that, but it's good to keep in mind anyway).
>>2 here: OP, I believe even if you manage to gain a friend group, you will still remain unhappy once you realize how superficial and brutish the common man is. I tried to socialize in highschool and became disillusioned with social life in general, so I speak from experience here. Most people socialize in order to satisfy their basest of desires, to them socializing is not any different from eating or reproducing, once you realize that you can ditch forming close bonds with others in favor of attaining spiritual enlightenment. Every major religious prophet (Buddha, Jesus, Muhammad etc.) or sage has gotten their wisdom from years of solitude, not meaningless chit-chat. If you wish to speak to others only for pointless small talk, that is incredibly easy: go to some social event in your town and try to speak to anybody there. If you, however, wish to form a bond with someone that goes beyond the flesh, that is nigh impossible.
I am not some pessimist or nihilist: I am an idealist, I believe in ideals, and most of mankind does not conform to my idealized version of man (and neither do they want to), and that saddens me. They live just to survive, like the animals of our world, and will do anything that will get them an advantage in life over their brothers (including immoral acts). If these are the people you wish to associate with: go and mingle with them. If they are not: save yourself and leave them be.
Why are so many people lonely now? Theoretically, it’s easier to contact pretty much anyone but despite being connected we all seem so far apart.
>>7 *Discourage socializing due to anonymity.
OP, Could it be that you're just trying too hard? Having friends isn't even about doing specific things together, or having engaging conversations. The bare minimum is to simply enjoy each-others' company. There is no silver bullet that will solve your problems--thinking in this way is the path to misery.
That being said, OP, it is hard to give advice when you're being so vague. What are some specific trouble points? What sorts of things do you do/enjoy? Do you have any sort of mandated social exposure? (e.g., school, job, shit where you're obligated to see other people)
>>2 Is tragically misanthropic. I hope you find peace with whatever demons you're fighting. The world is largely a very kind place; the trouble is that we tend to take it for granted and therefore cannot appreciate it.
>>6 Believe it or not, people are not forced to interact online. Pretty much everything is elective; you can choose where you talk, what communities you are exposed to, the people you respond to--pretty much everything. Offline, when you're out there, you're placed in many more situations where you are encouraged to interact with people. Ultimately it's about numbers. What impetus is there to do the legwork to actually "contact pretty much anyone" online? Loneliness is an issue that should be addressed with introspection first and action later.
I feel like I can communicate better online or via text but those kinds of social relationships never seem to go anywhere, even if I met the person irl. And nowadays, people are a lot less forgiving if you are socially awkward or stutter in public and are more likely to judge you.
When I was 14, I molested my sister. She was was almost four the first time and the second time was just after she turned four. The first time, I actually pulled her pants down and touched her bottom, but the second time was just me taking my time helping her in the restroom. Neither time did I ask her to touch me or even show her my penis.
I was recently recovering from a long amount of physical and emotional abuse from my father, and had previously been molested twice in my youth. I was also suffering from some fairly serious mental problems. I say this not to excuse my actions, but to provide more of an explanation of what was going on then.
As time went on and I have returned to a more normal mental state, I look back upon what I have done in horror and guilt. I don't really know what effects this may have had on my sister (she is still fairly young) but I don't really look back on my molestations negatively. I still feel guilty, though.
However, a larger emotion that I am now feeling is fear. What if she remembers? What if she does not? I certainly remember being that age, but I developed rather quickly. Her linguistic skills have always been behind. What if she remembers and eventually tells someone and my life is ruined? What if.... etc?
lole the last part got to me. i know you dont do that however ill keep you in my prayers you dumb, dumb man
>>45
Stay on twitter.
THE CYCLE ABUSE IS SAD
my brother touched my pee pee and butt in bed when i was around 12 and him 15
Neither of us (to my knowledge) was molested but he had went through a time at that same age where he and a freind jerked eachother off
he also showed me how to fap and nutted in front of me
and in the bathroom he told me to touch his benis and rub it and i did
years later he actually told my mom because he was guilty, I was kinda confused and a bit disturbed at the time but I think it kinda fucked me up emotionally because through puberty i would fap to gay fantasies and it led to me sending nudes to people online as well a bit later
now we're both years older and neither of us are gay or anything, I dont hold it against him we're both dumb kids
Side note, in 2nd grade i saw a girl preschool age on the slide, and when no one was looking i tried to kiss her but stopped, she started crying to i ran away, and her indian babysitter yelled at me to come back but I didnt
If I’m still a loner by 40 I will kill myself. There’s no point in turning into an old man and having nobody to care for you.
>>49
How old are you now? If it's still more than a decade off, why not try to grab ahold of the situation while you still have time?
Am I the only 4-ch anonymous who never was molested nor molested anyone?
i literally can't stop hating niggers and women and various different groups. it drives me insane. i hate america also. i just do not mesh with niggers or women or americans and things like that. i don't know what to do about it other than leave but i also hate aeroplanes. thank god for large sea faring vessels. america is a shithole and i hate niggers a lot. women are only good for looking at.
Sir, I think you typed the wrong URL your search bar. 4chan is down the hall and to the left.
Then leave. No one is forcing you to stay.
women are cute and fun to talk to. there is no reason to hate them.
Living with conservative parents in idiocracy America sucks right now dude. I just gotta let it out. Be safe out there and protect yourselves if you're on the left. If you're on the right,no worries,I tried what i expect you might want to tell me in the past and got help for it. Sorry sweetie,my formerly deteriorating mental health beat you to your npc punch. Stay safe and keep your heads up if you're in America rn. We can do this!
the real delusion is thinking trump isn't part of the elite. otherwise idc Kamala was a shit candidate and the democrats have run dogshit campaigns since 2012. its your fault, democrats.
and then nothing happened
Putting your faith in politicians is stupid. When have they ever delivered? All they do is make promises to get votes and do dumb shit when they are in office, then pass on the trainwreck to whoever succeeds them and get the tax payer to foot the bill. There hasn't been a competant US politician to hold the presidency since the rapist Bill Clinton, let that sink in. Eventually an incompetant degenerate like Trump was going to come along and be the monkey wrench candidate who'll burn the house down. This is America's age of stagnation. Actually, its worse since at least Kosygin tried to fix things and Brehzhnev kept the peace whereas America in 2024 is a trashfire.
Trump is more akin to America’s Yeltsin. He’s a self-interested crook who’ll gut the the state, dynamite the economy, and cripple the judiciary.
I’m more worried about Trump starting ww3 for some dumb fucking reason
>>6
Bruh, I kind of suspect that historians in the future (if there are any) are going to say WW3 is happening now, it just hasn't fully blown into "world" status yet.
I'm a serious insomniac and can't sleep and when I can sleep I always wake up exhausted and tired. I'm restless and paranoid all the time. Whats the secret to a good night sleep? I've tried pills and they just fuck me up for some reason.
I don’t have a bed. Do I need a bed for good sleep? I just sleep on the floor or on my desk. Sometimes I get drool on my keyboard so now I try to cover it before I collapse of exhaustion.
Eat 200 milligrams of diphenhydramine each night. You'll sleep very soundly and have fun dreams.
Drop a brick on your head every night and knock yourself out cold
Work out before bed until you collapse of exhaustion
I like sleeping on my side. It allows for easier diaphragmatic breathing vis a vis crooking your legs in a sort of fetal position.
Taking a bath as hot as you can stand it and some 4x strength -dose benadryl can help too. A once therapist of mine I fired told me that. It helps. Tylenol PM is just as good. Don't take too much benadryl. Or do
>>6
Just use stolen towels from the public bathroom to jerry rig your chair into a makeshift table-chair cot in this South Korean internet cafe you live in.
Try AM DXing and Shortwave listening. It gives you something to do and makes the graveyard shift a bit less lonely (I recommend a XHData D-219 if you wanna stay cheap, and maybe an AN-80 antenna if you can hang it on a curtain rod or something).
sometimes I draw, just to get my mind of things.
Have you tried Trazodone? It works for me.
Typing on the keyboard
Searching for some ewhores
Don’t want to be lonely
Artsy girl I knew,
I still wish it'd worked, even if
you have issues, man.
Still haven’t got over when you passed
Sad you were gone before your time
Blood flowing from slashed wrists
Wished you’d sucked my dick for longer
Sad I am now alone
Forced to watch porn and rub my bone
Down syndrome
It was not written.
That that, even now of all times,
We collide no more.
Nigger Nigger Nig
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Nigger Nigger Nig
No going out
No friends for myself
Hikki forever
>>26
I too desire some hot chocolate
Shouldn't this thread be in /book/?
For context, I'm an autistic ass in a third world country where just randomly talking to random people is seen as creepy...
I don't know if I'm missing something simple here. But how should one meet new people outside work or uni?
Join an club or a hobby group for something your interested in. Language classes are great because you can be socially retarded and everyone thinks part of the learning process. If you live in a big city you should be able to find groups you can join.
I get the impression that in the modern age, your not supposed to meet people outside of work and college. I’ve had younger people tell me it’s considered offensive to start conversations based on chance encounters or just ask people about their day. Hopefully, your third world country is less retarded.
> I’ve had younger people tell me it’s considered offensive to start conversations based on chance encounters or just ask people about their day.
They're right you know.
Title.
same bestie
I think we all have those moments...
I'm so fucking stupider
Let's take a trip to Jupiter
>>6
We're going to... Neptune... to... hunt for more poon?