Thread to talk about actor Tom Hiddleston
Tom Hiddleston 1: http://4-ch.net/tv/kareha.pl/1382608996/
Tom Hiddleston 2: http://4-ch.net/tv/kareha.pl/1410345704/
Tom Hiddleston 3: http://4-ch.net/tv/kareha.pl/1437479014/
Tom Hiddleston 4: http://4-ch.net/tv/kareha.pl/1440684211/
Tom Hiddleston 5: http://4-ch.net/tv/kareha.pl/1445094141/
>>450 haha, true! He seriously needs new clothes.
This tumblr blog has a schedule of TH's upcoming events, some of those are pointless - who cares about DVD release if you live in a different country? - but it saves me from doing it.
Wow. His clothes are literally in tatters, and not in the cool distressed worn out look kids are wearing these days. Why doesn't EO get her shag buddy some sexy casual wear? Maybe she's the one ripping his clothes to get to that deliciousness underneath! ;)))
Torrilla has another pic from the same time of him with a girl. There is ANOTHER hole in the t shirt near the v of the neckband!
https://twitter .com/bobbijmyles/status/690446130950242304
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CZT1FJXU8AECBFk.jpg
there goes the idea that he buys tshirt in stock, it's one for each colour!
Just a quick warning. My work IT people have told me that I picked up a Trojan virus (fortunately quarantined) from the web. I looked at the page and it was a tumblr page - couldn't identify it. So I checked that computer's history as I normally check tumblr on my phone. Lo and behold the only tumblr pages I had looked at from that machine was the bicycle. I know some on here heck in periodically - you have been warned....!
>>457 That v neck is so low it is below his chest rug!
>>458 thanks M for posting links when you find them
Larger version
https://scontent-frt3-1.cdninstagram.com/hphotos-xft1/t51.2885-15/e35/10632371_558937604261128_971965042_n.jpg
That's a tight smile.
Shit Island will shortly have an unexpected boost: the next film starring Oscar winning actress, Brie Larson. May save it after all....
>>461 Yes. While taking one or two posed photos is fun we have now seen a gazillion pics of "Brie and her crew." I imagine the fun factor decreases with time!
>>459 Thanks, I always visit her blog using a proxy-server that blocks almost everything, but I'll do a scan just to be sure.
New trailer for The Night Manager.
Another version of that animal scooter photo in the skating ring
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CZWAILhWkAA5TL3.jpg
from here
https://twitter. com/reeltourshawaii/status/690599011133317120
The Night Manager will have its World Premiere at Berlin Film Festival within the Berlinale Special Series.
http://www.berlinale.de/en/presse/pressemitteilungen/alle/Alle-Detail_31641.html
The Night Manager
Great Britain / Spain
Directed by Susanne Bier (In a Better World)
Written by David Farr, based on the novel by John le Carré
With Hugh Laurie, Tom Hiddleston, Olivia Colman, Elizabeth Debicki, Tom Hollander
Broadcaster: BBC (Great Britain), AMC (USA)
World Premiere
The Festival it's from Febr. 11-21 but the press release hasn't provided a date or a programm yet.
TH cover and interview in the Observer magazine tomorrow!
>>468 yep, but dear Daniel (the photographer), was it really necessary to make his face of a different colour from his neck?
http://ww1.sinaimg.cn/large/6e14d388gw1f09n7fv3eqj20ez0ipgmz.jpg
Tweet here. Not informative but has nice pic! https://mobile (.) twitter (.) com/G_Whizzz/status/690853772554280960
>>469 I see that so often with his pictures. Is no one telling him it's obvious? It looks like the world's worst makeup job.
"Graham Norton S18E16 Ice Cube, Kevin Hart, Hugh Laurie, Olivia Colman, Sir David Attenborough"
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kTulMKfHWVQ
from minute 19:10 Hugh Laurie promotes TNM, Olivia Colman promotes TNM by trying to make you think it's a comedy.
Bewarned, no mention of TH, but it's very funny to watch, especially Hugh's story about Le Carrè.
>>469 Is he maybe self-conscious about his skin and insists on too much makeup? I find it hard to believe any self-respecting makeup artist would let this happen. It's a pretty basic makeup person skill..
It's not the makeup. It's called melasma.
It's not melasma. Makeup for photo and film should take care of that and even out the skin tone. I've noticed that whenever Tom gets his makeup done by Amanda Grossman, his face is a darker tone than his neck. She tries to "bronze" him up. But when he hires another makeup artist, he never has this uneven makeup problem. When he was doing his CP promo and then was in San Sebastián for HR, his makeup was so much better. When I checked, sure enough he had another lady, Sally something doing his makeup.
>>475 >>476 I think you both - all three? - may be right.
This seems to have been taken post HI filming, so he's had some pretty strong sun exposure. He's tan, but also appears to have some slight reddish brown patches (melasma) on his forehead - you can see spots of his usual, more pinkish skin scattered above his eye and near his hairline.
So, I maybe the people doing his make-up matched it to the darker, tanned skin of his face. It seems his neck didn't get as much sun exposure - which happens when you're 'working' in the sun and not lying on a beach or sun bed. His costume probably had a collar which covered his neck.
Or, which seems more likely given the unevenness, they might not have used any make-up at all and we're seeing the natural difference between his neck and face skin. Perhaps this is a preview pic and they're going to 'clean it up' in post and that's what we'll see on the actual cover. I think the original came from the picture editor - or am I making that up? Maybe he pushed the original, non-photoshopped pic.
Christ, we need another EO sighting - this post is way too long to be taking about TH's make-up. I only have myself to blame!!
PS - Three people had to push open the front door of my apartment building because there were 12 inches of snow in front of it. My neighbor saw me leaving for the store (we stocked up on food but not toilet paper!!) and offered me his snow shoes because most of the sidewalks hadn't been cleared this morning. They worked a treat - leg workout done!
>>477 oh god that's horrible! I live in SoCal and wish I could send some sun your way but unfortunately you'd get the drought with it too!
We need more photos of Tom in holey shirts! With EO's eye peeking out from one of the holes. She's going to show up in Oz just you guys watch! But we'll get confirmation much later. Either photographic or slip of the tongue from a reliable source. Like Bora Bora and JVR's IG fiasco. I don't think EO is done with TH by a long shot. And maybe neither is he ;)
>>477 Can't tell you how many times I wished I had snow shoes when I lived near NYC.
Thank you for the explanation-I know nothing about melasma. I have noticed the pink areas on his forehead, and assumed it was from scars.
I think Tom has some sun damage on his forehead, and his hairline has receded just a bit since it happened so the skin looks splotchy sometimes. I do agree >>477 that the difference in color between his face and neck in that photo is probably due to tanning while filming.
As far as EO showing up in Australia is concerned, I think it's more likely that Tom will fly to LA between Oz and Vietnam for some ISTL promotion, and they'll be spotted together then. Or "spotted" together. If it happens at all. But yes >>478, more holey shirts please.
>>478 This is my first NYC Snowmageddon. I missed the one in 2010. It's nice. The city's strange and beautiful when all the people are off the streets!
>>479 Some are scars, but the spots are - I think - the areas not affected by the very low-grade melasma (which is just darkening of the skin due to sun damage). You can really see the sun damage in the HR hi-def pic. Look at his face compared to his neck and his body. Mind you, wouldn't kick him out of bed for it.
>>487 Yeah, I don't think they're done with each other either. Whatever they've got, it seems to be working for them, so I expect it will continue.
>>480 I wonder when they're going to get in ISTL promo.
There were about three weeks between HI and Oz filming, but I think a great deal of that was for the holiday.
I wonder if there will be a similarly lengthy break between Oz and Vietnam. If there is, you may be right and they'll meet up in LA for promo and bonking - ahhh, Hollywood!
Perhaps they did the majority of the promo in Nashville - we've already seen some pics and interviews from that time.
The observer article is already floating around: Torrilla, twitter, tumblr.
It seems to be an ISTL piece, complete with a pic of the couple.
He is charming and delightful throughout, but then we expected that.
>>483 Charming and delightful! And of course, he paid for the interviewer's meal. Ever the gentleman.
I enjoyed how EO was labeled "ISTL co-star" in the photo.
>>483 >>485 The interview mentions ISTL but the strap line at the bottom is "TNM starts on BBC1 in February" so I infer he was doing the interview at the behest of the BBC not as part of his contractual obligations for ISTL. I wonder how much more publicity he will actually do for ISTL. I mean, they had the premiere in Nashville and a lot of promo then. Interviewers are probably holding back material from TIFF or maybe from earlier - a lot of the promo material for CP was from on set interviews.
>>485 I particularly enjoyed that costar bit too.
Overall, the interview was like deja vu. All about his Eton and Cambridge background and his privilege, and all redundant basic info about his upcoming ISTL and TNM, and how Tom always reads for research, for both work and interviews. Can't these guys ask better questions or does staring directly into Tom's baby blues short circuit everyone's brains?
>>483 Interview was done at the restaurant where he was filmed by the fangirls between Christmas and New Year.
I thought it was so sad when he was talking about being sent to boarding school. He is too loyal to his parents to say but he pretty obviously hated it. Boarding school is still common here from age 12 but you have to be a pretty dysfunctional parent to send your child away at 7 if you don't absolutely need to (eg diplomatic service). His parents lived in Oxford and the boarding school they sent him to was in Oxford! I could not live knowing my child was 2 or 3 miles away and was unhappy.
More generally he didn't sound like his usual carefree self. Somewhat bristly. Not (dare I say) very loved up.
>>487 At least we learned a new nickname for Tom - I think we should all call him "Uncle Yay Monster" from now on.
>>486 and the twitter follow of this journalist happened recently, so I think the interview took place between HI and Oz.
>>488 I thought the same, that's why when people read he was with a woman he was firting I tend to think: "interview".
>>492 I wasn't at the point in the interview where she mentioned the name of the place where they were eating but yeah, Jan 3rd.
I actually think it was a different occasion - the journalist mentions he was wearing a gray t-shirt, but his shirt he was wearing in the video at Côte was definitely white (I'm almost positive, anyway). The restaurant is near his home, he's probably there often.
>>494 Was it? I could only watch the video once so I don't remember really. So Côte wll become the new G&W for delusional fans?
>>494 Here is the screencap: https://scontent-frt3-1.cdninstagram.com/hphotos-xaf1/t51.2885-15/s640x640/sh0.08/e35/12501496_1736612903234401_720469547_n.jpg
It's white but kind of grubby looking! Restaurant is about a 15 minute walk from his house, past a lot of other much closer and more discreet places (Côte is a chain and has a lot of tables squeezed in. Exactly the sort of place you'd go I you wanted a fangirl to photograph you).
>>496 Thanks, I knew there was a screencap out there somewhere.
I read the interview again and I despair slightly. She says they talked about Graham Greene and Plato, and yet she devoted nearly a page to telling everyone how he followed her first on Twitter. It is lengthy but strangely uninformative. What would you make of it if you had never heard of him and were reading it for the first time?
>>498 it's not on par with the ElleUK's but yes the journalist didn't press too much, so the result is bland. But that's a common theme, even in this interview in the end you don't end up with much http://www.theguardian.com/film/2015/oct/08/tom-hiddleston-interview-crimson-peak
>>499 I get the feeling Tom does more research for some of these interviews than the journalists themselves - if they don't do enough reading up on Tom beforehand they won't even realize they're asking all the same questions and putting all the same information in an article for the hundredth time.
>>486 I would imagine it was for the BBC, given that it's in the Observer. I do wonder however, since it is fairly ISTL heavy (several paragraphs and pics), if he/Luke/Sony/BBC (whoever else), are trying to kill two birds with one interview.
>>492 >>495 >>496 I wonder if he took her there because it is a chain restaurant. That is, it's not a place he usually goes to, so if he meets a journalist there and she mentions it/people see him there, and the fans start to show up, they'll only ever see him there infrequently.
I wonder if another interviewer will mention his white t-shirt, i.d., from the other time he was spotted there.
We know he's a creature of habit: same clothes, same cafe for his FWB, same restaurant for his journalists!
So, I can't tell, did he go to Eton and earn a double first?
In all seriousness (I know - on this board!), I have a journalist friend (I think Anon does as we, so maybe she can back me up on this point!).
Our conversation was about minor politicians, but the same may go for minor celebs like TH. I asked her why so much info is recycled in profiles of certain politicians. She said that journalists are meant to gauge the knowledge of the average reader and give background info for the article's subject based on that analysis.
Now, we all know the basics on TH, but the average Observer reader might not. I think she was just covering her bases.
However, it would have been nice to hear his thoughts about Plato! You can so tell he's a Plato guy and not an Aristotle guy - you can always spot the difference.
>>502 That was kind of what I meant. It isn't the place you would go if you wanted a quiet lunch by yourself or with friends. It's usually heaving.
>>488 I wonder when his family moved to Oxford, because I thought at one point he said they lived in the Cotswolds. Some one will remember if that's correct.
I know the Cotswolds are close to Oxford, but perhaps they were there when he started school and the commute was too much...so off he went.
That having been said - you're right, 7 is too young to be away from parents. I'm sure that's how PMs are made, but it's just as likely to harm. I remember Winston Churchill writing about wanting hugs from his mother and having to get them from matron.
I think the little 7-year-old living inside TH needs a hug.
>>488 I wonder if he was bristly (you're right, it did seem that way) because of the twitter comments. She said that after he followed her, she was deluged by fan messages. By the way, his response to his fans' behavior was hi-larry-us! Shaking his head politely (and probably bashfully!).
If the journalist was contacted by fans, perhaps he was worried that the fans mentioned - and then she would ask about - the subject that dare not speak its name: his private life (and a certain 'co-star'). Please don't ask about EO, please don't ask about EO.
I hope the next time someone asks about his relationship status, his answer is: Jane and I are very happy. Thank you.
>>505 If the commute is too far you send your kid to the local village school - and the Cotswolds are so moneyed the state primary schools will probably be more than fine (lots of involved parents). Or you home school.
Just a personal view. I know one person whose parents sent him to boarding school at 4 (jeez) and he is nuts. I think it does real harm before adolescence. I thought that was the one revealing part of the interview. Sniff. I know what you mean about the hug. I think it explains a lot about his friendly but distant demeanour and about what we see of his relationships.
I must be really cynical then because I thought it was a nice touch mentioning the boarding school and neglected childhood bit as a way to get sympathy on the whole posh boy angle that the reporter kept prodding him with. It bothered him because he does say clearly that yes inequality exists but how about we not hold me alone as somehow the sole instigator of it.
Overall, it did sound like a recycled copy paste interview with more acidic emphasis on the "Tom the actor is a posh boy, just like the rest of em posh boy actors flooding the market." Maybe that's why he was bristly in the interview.
>>508 Never feel bad for being cynical - we like them that way around here.
And, sure, boarding school at such a young age probably did affect him in a not-completely-healthy way, but he survived. We all survived the dodgy choices our parents made when trying to do right by us. My mother feathered my hair (but w/ a lovely, long mullet) when I was 6 - it was disastrous, several years of school photos were ruined, and it earned me the nickname (which stuck until senior year) Big Bird (because my hair actually looked like Big Bird's!). I know I was sent away to summer camp (under the pretense that 'it was good for me') for two months every year. I hated it, and hated my parents for doing it. Yet, I'm in a stable, loving relationship, I've never been arrested, I'm able to function in the world (though not when there's a new foot of snow outside).
All in all, the little tyke turned out just fine.
I do wonder, however, when he's going to snap re: the class question. He's been asked it so many times - and given his stock answer so many times. Some journalist may get the Freddie Page OMG treatment at some point.
>>508 I didn't read it that way. The interviewer asked him about what kind of child he was and then if that changed when he went to boarding school. So he didn't bring it up in response to the questions about access to the arts.
I do have some sympathy with him on the issue though. He isn't the sole instigator of it. He has also used the opportunities he had to get into a very tough university, took a top degree, got into Rada (where the annual intake is minimal) and became a success when 99% of actors do not. At some point hat success has to be because he is good and not because it was handed to him on a plate. To me the unforgivable thing is having those opportunities and not taking advantage of them.
>>507 I think for his parents - his father especially, given his background - the best education would trump most other factors. Moneyed and involved parents aside, they probably thought Dragon was a much better choice than the local primary.
>>511 I am sure they did what they believed was right. The eternal conundrum of private education is that people who went to state schools and became financially successful want to put their kids in private school, even though they succeeded without it.
>>510 And can we talk about inauthenticity!
What kind of child were you? Quiet and playful. LIES. He was probably a monster, a curly haired monster. Quick-minded children usually are - they're skilled at conjuring up naughtiness and getting away with it.
It starts off with him a jab of "it's certainly working well for him" and follows up with how he started boarding school at seven and went to Eton followed by another jab of all the big Brit actors certainly seem to be Eton or Harrow and then you get the whole class inequality thing from Tom after which the reporter seems to get a bit soft hearted and ask if going to boarding school affected him as a child.
Honestly I don't feel much sympathy for him. He's doing well for himself. Sure he didn't have a perfectly happy childhood but lots of people come from either dysfunctional families or have divorced parents or some sort of neglected childhood that have been worse than his and they turn out fine. He went to a good school, got a good education and has a successful career of his choice, and he went through all of that with no lacking for basic needs like food or a place to live. His relationship with his parents seems fine too with how he talks about his mom and how his father wanted him to choose a more financially stable profession. Who hasn't here argued with their parent about their career choice at one point or another in life? I'm sure the divorce is still a sore spot for him like most of us with divorced parents do but I don't necessarily pity him and I really hope he doesn't pity himself either.
As far as his relationship status goes, no one can answer that except for himself. Maybe he's the unconventional type who's not big on monogamy or maybe he's so focused on making A list at the moment that he doesn't have the time to invest in a relationship and would rather work on himself. Or he's just a late bloomer. I've honestly never read or watched a Tom interview and thought he's so lonely and sad or some sort of sob story. He's always struck me as a driven ambitious guy who knows he's very lucky and he's availing that luck to the best of his abilities.
>>513 we all know "quiet and playful" really means mischievous af! Just like how "quaint" in the real estate lingo really means tiny house LOL!
So, the Irish Examiner - not a rag by any means - went with this headline from the Observer article: "Eton educated Tom Hiddleston says class debate in acting is 'socially divisive'"
The edit of the article is all boarding school and posh actors. Ugh.
>>516 and now we know why Tom was bristly in his Observer interview. The way he went on the inequality and social class thing, I'm sure that reporter kept poking and prodding him about it and we just read Tom's polite way of snapping. I doubt she's going to put down what jab of hers finally provoked that response, of course. He's too British to Freddy Mercury snap but I believe we read him snapping at the class thing in The Observer.
Sorry Freddy Page* snap not Mercury. Well we can tell what I have on my mind.
>>517 "Too British" ? Something of a stereotype. Unfortunately the British are as rude and aggressive as people of any other nationality. If TH is too polite to tell a reporter where to stick it that's down to him and not his nationality.
>>520 True. And he's always been the non confrontational type so I don't think he's ever going to tell any reporter to back off with the class and posh questions.
All this time I thought he'd gone to Dragon school in daytime only - not boarding. I thought he lived close enough for it - it's in Oxford.
Thor: Ragnarok director Taika Waititi on how he’s changing things up
http://www.superherohype.com/news/363817-thor-ragnarok-director-taika-waititi-on-how-hes-changing-things-up#/slide/1
[...] “But that’s what I’m going to really concentrate on, really make an effort to change the entire thing,” he continued. “For me, I want to treat this as if it was the first Thor film, so we’re going to redo it. You just have to flip it and freshen it up, like anything. It’s also part of a very well-established universe right now, but that’s why they got me.”
He told us he’s not worrying too much about what comes before or after his movie either.
“This is the cool thing is that anything goes in these early stages, ideas-wise. We really are in the early stages,”
https://www.instagram.com/p/BA-Sn8Rqbsx/
The recording studio is in LA. Don't know if he's there now, or this was when he was there pre-Christmas or post-New Year.
Anonsy is usually good at picture analysis.
>>524 Well, based on the kid's Instagram, it seems like he usually posts his pictures right away. And Tom's hair looks like it looked in the holey shirt fan selfies a couple days ago... so I'm going to go with new. Second guess would be when he was in LA for the AMC event right before heading out to Oz.
I think he is back in Oz today. JVR posted an insta-piccy of Australia Day (today) showing a tall, skinny dude wearing something that to be frank, only an Englishman would be seen wearing in a classy joint like the Gold Coast.
Having said that, long weekends are the norm this week (Monday off to bridge the Tuesday Aussie Day holiday) so perhaps Tom went over to LA over the weekend and is .. back.
>>526 Which picture? I didn't see Tom in any of them.
>>527 Just looked again... only tall person in the pics is John C. Reilly, unless JVR took pics down. If Tom is back in Oz already he's probably sleeping off the jet lag.
>>528 the photo is this I suppose https://www.instagram.com/p/BA_P17vgDTO/ but he doesn't seem Reilly to me, Reilly isn't so slim at the waist, but I don't think it's TH, it's Olyy's BFF.
This was also posted a few days ago but it's from the AMC
https://www.facebook.com/BookToBigScreen.net/posts/946476745420745:0
Someone asked the kid when the photo was taken, I doubt that he'll answer.
h the kid also posted on twitter
https://twitter. com/therealaidenlew/status/691700040193150976
Empire Magazine March 2016
https://www.instagram.com/p/BA-aAm4jNbq/
>>529 Ah, I was looking at the one of the man in the hat from behind, which is Reilly - he's wearing the same hat in the group photo, plus you can see his hair. The photo you posted is definitely Olly and his buddy.
>>534 Someone on tumblr said the recording studio works with AMC, so he's likely doing commercial voiceovers for the Night Manager.
>>534 apparentely that studio is specialize din voice over work, so it could be commercials for TNM, but it would make more sense for this to have happened during the AMC's TCA week. Not matter how long the weekend, it's still a hell of a flight just for some studio recording.
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Another article about T:R director: http://www.wired.com/2016/01/taika-waititi-thor-interview/?platform=hootsuite
"At the moment everyone's trying to figure it out, like "what's he [Loki] going to do?"" Witty says. "Everyone loves that character."
>>536 Maybe it was during the AMC weekend after all? A lot of people are still posting photos and videos from that weekend, could be the boy's pic was a couple weeks delayed.
>>538 Yeah, I saw an anon on another tumblr blog yesterday that referenced something we'd said here just a couple hours after we'd said it. I think it was sent by one of our regular trolls, but I could be wrong. In any case you're right, this isn't exactly a "safe space."
>>538 A garbled version of what was actually posted. The irony is that we all admit we read the bicycle from time to time) nor have we dismissed all the material out of hand (eg the Kitchen Door of Doom tweets).
However I take your point about trolls and our visibility generally. I have thought for a while that we had the odd visit from trolls other than our one regular.
>>541 Really? Which part of our ramblings was deemed worthy of a wider audience?
I also imagine lurkers are to be expected because those who post links (rarely me, I can't take credit) sometimes get them first. For example Anon. posted the kid's IG several hours before Torrilla did.
I found you guys through a Hiddleston tumblr so this board is more well known than you think. But I don't think most want to post on here since no one here feels too strongly about Tom's love life but still enjoys gossip without getting too serious or overly invested in it. Which is exactly what drew me here!
>>543 It was the joking about EO being labeled "ISTL co-star" in that photo caption. It's been brought up a few times, but this was the first one I saw:
http://wthanon4u. tumblr.com/post/137937160790/can-i-say-what-i-think-i-recently-saw-a-person
>>545 I think we were linked to a month or two ago by someone debunking all the Shaitana/MissThing nonsense from back in the day. I like it here, it's less stressful than tumblr, even when we disagree with each other. Glad you found your way here, too. :)
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>>545 I found the board through a Google search; for what, I can't even remember. More recently I wondered how visible we were and searched for "TH messageboard" and a few other things and it didn't come up. I know we have maybe one person who posts here and on CB and I think a good few more lurkers from CB. There were some striking similarities between one or two of our comments on Sunday on the Observer article and CB's yesterday.
>>548 Did you Google search "The JArthy, FWB Queen of our Hearts" because I'm pretty sure that would lead you to this board and nowhere else. ;)
I've been here for a long time... I was one of the original DataLounge rejects. I'd found DL through a Google search for something Tom-related, it was so long ago I don't remember what. Then everything on DL went crazy, someone started a thread on this board and linked to it on DL, and now here we are.
I found this blog through google and I'm one of the lurkers tried to post here twice i hope this one goes.
>>534 I dont see any mystery. Perhaps it was possible to do it now and impossible to do it before or later, and we know that Tom is workaholic so that explains everything. BTW the cropped out person is another kid.
>>536 bingo, exactly. This studio works for AMC so Tom was there for TNM voice overs. And yes it is rather possible that the kid posted the photo just now and its back from TCA pannel days as well. The hair looks the same to me, it heavily depends on light.
>>535 no its Thomas Mann. If you click on that photo you will see tags that were made mt JVR. Simple as it is.
