Thread to talk about the actor Tom Hiddleston.
TH is currently sending JVR the world's biggest muffin basket. He's not going to have the most problematic personal life on the Shit Island promo tour!!!!
OT: How was she one of 2015's most influential people on the internet?
>>597 Classics reference from Coach!! She wins the internet today.
>>599 Yes maybe another presenting gig. A self-deprecating quip about sticking to presenting rather than accepting awards might gain back some goodwill. Not from me, but maybe from someone.
>>599 Right?!? Learn from others' mistakes. I bet there isn't a TS ex who doesn't regret 'going out' with her. I bet those stories are told all the time BTS in Hollywood/publicists offices. How did he not hear them?
>>601 Holy! Has TH already stopped following her on twitter?
We were right in naming the film Shitty Island.
Google and youtube trends already showed little interest in this film, now it's DOA. Legendary is probably wishing they sacked JVR when they could, because JVR isn't denying the event in the hotel, he's complaining about it going public - and the blackmail, but he needs to provide evidence to support that one.
What a mess, just before the promo tour begins.
OT: Mysteries of social networks.
>>603 et al
Best comment in the DM: "She is trash and he should never be photographed naked."
I have always said that JVR was a peanut brain. The fact that he can't imagine a better Friday night than smoking a lot of weed and having a hooker party tends to confirm this. It seems that one of the hookers he was with took a violent dislike to him and leaked the photo.
And did TH really follow the GF on twitter? I know he likes looking at breasts, but really...
>>604 Yes, your nickname for him was spot on. I remember when JVR was scouting for locations we talked about him and his twitter full of boobs. I think we even wondered if JK Simmons and Keaton left because of him.
Of course TH followed her! It happened when they were filming in Hawaii (we were busy with the whole EO&Hawaii situation), Furlan was there too. Even Olly followed her on twitter (although she didn't follow him back, only TH).
They even took a photo together at SDCC
https://twitter.
com/brittanyfurlan/status/756987421284192256
>>605 The attention hog and the peanut can commiserate about selecting the wrong women with which to be in relationships. (Feel like the grammar is dodgy there!)
>>604 You do yourself a disservice. You said he had the emotional intelligence and intellect of a peanut. You nailed him exactly.
How does a studio think it wise to give this man the reins of a $195m movie?
I bet Brittney - and her sizeable assets - has been crossed off the potential showmancers list.
Why do all these reality TV stars look the same?
And I have wondered many times what made any studio allow this moron to direct a major movie. I read somewhere that this is only his second feature length movie full stop. Heaven knows I don't want TH to have another flop on his hands, but if I were him I really would have thought twice about this project on that ground alone.
While JVR is not the first stoner to make feature films, I do hope he surrounded himself with some clear minded people to help put his chaotic thought processes into action. What a peanut. I wonder if his assistants main task was to source reefer and strippers.
That pickup and fill in all the plot holes bar scene looks cheap. Seems they ran out of budget for a decent beard. I very much doubt TH's personal makeup artist applied it- Bill Corso is a genius.
>>607 I get the distinct impression TH has been desperate for a leading man action hero roll and the offers weren't exactly flooding in. If he pulls it off it'll polish off most of his turds and finally gain him some of the following he expected to gain through TayTo.
http://quoting-shakespeare-to-ducks.tumblr.com/post/156364887836/jungle-boogie-empire-magazine-march-2017
Here's the first print article from Shit Island. Lots of pretty photos, I can't be bothered reading the article...
PS. What a twat, cheating on his high profile social media star gf, leaving evidence on his phone and being shocked and outraged she leaked them. I see no other outcome from this scenario, it's a forgone conclusion.
Let's hope his inability to see the forest for the trees doesn't play out in cinemascope.
A director betrayed by a camera is highly amusing. I suppose he didn't read TH's memo about unsolicited photo/video and everyone having a smartphone these days.
>>606,607,608 I thought the budget would be higher than that, moving all that equipment to so many different locations, not to mention luxury hotels and post production.
As for TH, the possible reasons might go from money to better to work than not. But I fail to see how this film helps him. If it's a success, the cast is star studded and TH's role doesn't seem to be central, so it'll be a shared merit. If it's a flop, the blame will be at JVR's and TH's feet, they certainly aren't going to blaming it on Oscar winner Larson and SLJ.
Does anyone know what cafe Tom had breakfast in, in the recent instagram pic, because it didn't look like Chamomile or G&W?
>>611>>606>>607>>608 IMO, this film is a no win, no loss deal for Tom. People are not particularly interested in a King Kong film, and are certainly more interested in Godzilla. Not to be mean to the cast, but this series of films is just about raking in special effects dollars from the international markets. Tom gets to play a macho, kind of a leading man part, but it's an ensemble film, and he's not the designated star. If the script isn't cohesive, the editing is disjointed, the effects dodgy, and the film under performs, it will be JVRs fault, and reviewers will just continue to question why studios make these tent pole films. I wish Tom success, but I kind of wish he wanted a career like Damian Lewis. He could rock a mature, sophisticated Homeland type of show, and bring in an award or two, and do theatre in between seasons. But Tom wants to be up there with Macavoy, Fassbender and Hardy. I could have seen him in the Fassbender part in A Dangerous Method. I also could see him as Amy Schumers nerdy love interest in a comedy like in Train Wreck. Weird thought, though.
OT: What did Italy do to deserve this?
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz/article-4165434/Selena-Gomez-Weeknd-visit-Florence.html
Maybe this is true love (like Tayto) but I'm thinking Selena took a page out of squad-leader TS's playbook because this set up looks awfully familiar:
Lesson of this post: You can spot a fake relationship by the shoes?
>>613 You are so spot on. This article from refinery29 asks are Selena and Weeknd "Hiddleswifting" us? Ouch. Selena can get away with this probably because she hasn't been stunting with bfs for 10 years to create lyrics, like TS. At 23 you get a pass with a few PR relationips, but at 27 and older, people side-eye you. And this couple is OTT, but not utterly physically awkward with each other. Selena is a bit better with body language. Although she is wearing a sundress and heels in the middle of winter, with everyone else in coats...
http://www.refinery29.com/2017/01/138229/the-weeknd-selena-gomez-italy-trip-date-night-dave-busters
More silly Bond rumors. Tom is mentioned. Priyanka Chopra wants to play Bond, apparently. Daniel Craig is Bond, period. B Broccoli is even producing his off broadway production of Othello.
http://www.theweek.co.uk/james-bond/61654/next-james-bond-tom-hardy-heads-list-of-potential-007s
Tom's on Graham Norton again on February 17, with Harry Potter himself, Daniel Radcliffe, Ricky Gervais, and reunited with Tinie Tempah. I hope it goes well. Gervais is a loose cannon.
Who's ready for Kong Skull Island? Anyone? Yeah, me neither. But it's coming!
This article makes me nervous. This SM post smacks of the same self-importance that got TH in trouble at the GG. I understand the idea of actors as representatives and mirrors for society, but not in a Kong movie. Here's hoping BL and TH keep the promo tour light and fun: no 'I hope this movie brings relief to the aid workers of Sudan,' or 'our battle with Kong is like the battle against the travel ban.' Light and fun means less opportunity for TH's foot-in-mouth disease to return.
>>616 There will probably be a moratorium on Tayto questions. However, Ricky Gervais...soooooo, good luck with that, TH.
Luke, stop off before the show to buy some adult diapers. TH looks the type to get the nervous shits.
>>613,614 They became a verb! Maybe they'll make it into the Oxford Dicitonary.
>>616,617 Well, even if Norton were to make a joke, it's pre-recorded isn't it?
>>617 Brie, no. Just no. Don't even try to make it look as if this film is anything besides CG monsters fighting each other. Plus, TH doesn't really need a new flop and Marvel doesn't want Captain Marvel to be their first. Follow Anon. advice, do your promo for comic nerds and be happy with that.
Speaking of Kong there was this article that digs into Kong and Associated Monsters and the film in general
http://www.comingsoon.net/movies/features/809589-a-guide-to-the-kong-skull-island-characters-and-monsters#/slide/1
I only skimmed through, but I think there might be some spoilers.
And a couple of boring things about Thor3
http://comicbook.com/marvel/2017/02/01/thor-ragnarok-director-taika-waititi-cameo/
http://comicbook.com/marvel/2017/02/01/thor-ragnarok-director-compares-movie-against-civil-war/
>>620 What an atrociously written article (the Coming Soon one).
Sample sentence: "The main conflict in the film centers on the divide between the group in how they’re going to fulfill a mission they may have gotten in over their heads about."
Here be my contribution, complete with BBCAmerica sass.
>>622 These Kong articles are certainly good for a laugh,
"It turns out as well as doing his research, Hiddleston worked closely with director Jordan Vogt-Roberts" - was whipped cream involved?
But yesterday I read this pearl "Kong: Skull Island's Creatures Inspired By Miyazaki Anime"
http://comicbook.com/anime/2017/02/02/kong-skull-island-creatures-hayao-miyazaki/
>>624 I have to say, I think TH has finally found his métier with this film. He is right on message with the pretentious crap that is spewing out of the publicity department. Not eh case with his previous films: Marvel clearly wasn't interested in the Shakespearean arc of his character since they fired Branagh after one movie; and Legendary marketed CP as a straight up horror movie, not as a "Gothic Romance"....
>>625 That's true and if her interviews are anything to go by, he even found a partner in crime in Brie. Not that this is a good thing for him.
>>625 His pretentious, bullshit-filled forte. I predict 'myth' will be the buzzword for this tour. I can we see him waxing about Shit Island being just like the Odyssey?
>>626 She's onboard. I glimpsed an article where she talked about how the male characters in the film represent the 'animus' and her character is more about the 'anima.' This is why her character is better able to connect with the giant CGI monkey...obviously. I stopped reading.
I recall reading that TH was on board this project from the concept/ origin stage (conceived most likely in seedy hotel rooms with reefers, strippers and whipped cream) with particular emphasis on character design.
I would conclude that all pretentious referencing in this press tour is entirely his fault.
Hopefully they're saving the Odyssey namedrop for Samuel L
>>627 Maybe they should just let Kong do the promo
"Mr Kong, please tell us how it was working with TH?"
"Well enough, he came up with this idea that his character would show his love for me by wearing a tshirt, but I told him I'm no leggy blonde"
>>627,628 For the moment he's mentioning Indiana Jones and Jurassic Park. I suppose he considers this his adventurous film. Or, he really wants to be the lead in a Spielberg movie.
>>629 The boy is always hustling. We saw that in 2016: never-ending promo tour, never-ending showmance, DEFCON 2 with fans to recoup goodwill lost in Storm Tayto. Then it was off to sunny Sudan and the GG speech to tie in with his Unicef charity. It's been a whirlwind of shitty PR followed by apologetic behavior or actual apologies.
But where is my handwritten note apologizing for the $15 and 2 hours I wasted on ISTL? Where is that, TH?
OT: The Daily Mail tells me that 'brand Beckham is RIP' because some of his emails about honors and charity work leaked. The emails suggest his work with Unicef was part of a conscious effort to secure a knighthood. When a PR guru suggested he make a large donation to a Unicef event, he told them to take a hike. Requests from Unicef for business class flights were also leaked - more demands than requests.
I wouldn't expect this to touch TH and his work with Unicef. I think we all can admit on some level that TH is not working with Unicef out of the pure goodness of his heart. I'm going to continue to believe that he does want to help people and is concerned about the situation in S. Sudan. However, there are benefits for him. And given it seems to be Luke's go-to PR strategy (nearly everyone in his stable is involved with a UN subsidiary), PR must play a role.
But I bet he's going to be praying that his emails stay safe and sound. He's probably going to install an extra firewall or two as well.
>>630 About Beckam, if true it wouldn't surprise me, his(their) lifestyle makes it look like Unicef is a means to an end. It'd be sad for the kids he visited with Unicef, who tend not to care about actors/actresses, but idolize football players.
About TH, I can't but agree with you, pre Tayto I gave him the benefit of the doubt about everything, now I question everything. I do hope his work with Unicef is done more seriously than his commitment to climate changes, conveniently forgotten when enjoying private jets and SUVs, and that his documentary isn't some self-serving work.
He's an Apple user, he probably uses their email and doesn't even now what an end-to-end encryption is. Which is why I always thought TH wasn't one for escorts or shady stuff, he'd be too worried about leaks of videos/photos. But I do wonder if he wrings his hands in concern over emails sent to TS.
>>631 My American brain didn't think of this! Those kids are probably confused when TH shows up (Loki who?) but a football star like Beckham would be unforgettable.
>>632 Was it the same one he stopped off at when they were having a PR motorcade to mummy's house? Did he buy two coffees out of habit? Was he smiling maniacally until he realized there were no paps or people with cameraphones? And most importantly, was his mother surprised TS and the Daily Mail didn't come along for the visit?
Why didn't TH dedicate his GG to whales? Don't they binge watch TNM https://www.list.co.uk/article/88432-tom-hiddlestons-humbling-whale-experience/
I can only hope I'm not passing on sarcasm in my milk.
>>633 "I was in Australia doing 'Thor: Ragnarok' and I had a house in Queensland and I could run along the beach and I saw humpback whales."
I suppose all of this happened after TayTo ended, Tayto took over a hotel and TH's runs were supervised and photographed for posterity. The lack of private jet and SUVs allowed the man to go back respecting nature. How surprising.
I think sarcasm is more likely to raise the immune power of your milk. Congrats btw :)
And no Kong trailer for the Superbowl!
Naomie Harris claims that she empathized with Tom during his GG speech, because it's so hard to tell an effective story when you're nervous, and she thought it was unfair that he was criticized to the extent that he was.
http://www.papermag.com/oscar-nominee-naomie-harris-doesnt-think-shell-win-feels-sorry-for-tom-2243113988.html
>>633>>634 Ha ha. Not sure when the whale watching took place, could have been during or post Tayto fauxmance. The lack of a cotilla of paparazzi and bodyguards reminds one to savour the simple things in life. I remember that Tom was seen on a hotel balcony with a bodyguard. But there never were any pics of TS anywhere near the hotel. So I thought that she leaked the name of the hotel for PR, and she stayed somewhere else. Sadly, reading so much about Hollywood is making me more aware of the games that all of the publicists and actors play, and now all I think when I see any interview or quote from an actor is "what are you trying to sell me right now", "why do you need my attention right now," and "what are you campaigning for?"
According to Elizabeth Debicki of TNM, Tom is perfectly perfect in every way. Hmmm...Tom is right up there with Mary Poppins, her magical snaps, and talking umbrella that flies, apparently. Blah. The Dailymail is so silly.
Do you remember when a couple of months ago we read about TH and Hard Boiled https://www.theguardian.com/film/2016/nov/22/tom-hiddleston-and-ben-wheatley-to-reunite-for-frank-miller-adaptation-hard-boiled-comic
and we laughed about the idea? (we weren't the only ones http://www.laineygossip.com/Tom-Hiddleston-in-talks-to-star-in-adaptation-of-Hard-Boiled-comic-book-with-Warner-Bros/45575)
Turns out that's it wasn't just talk https://theplaylist.net/rotterdam-ben-wheatley-talks-free-fire-doctor-killer-approach-wages-fear-remake-20170206/2/#cb-content
"Speaking of, what’s up next from you? There are several projects rumored…
Yeah, there’s [monster movie] “Freakshift” which we’re still trying to make — probably, hopefully shooting that in June. And I’m writing stuff for Warners at the moment for “Hard Boiled,” the Frank Miller adaptation.
And is that still due to star Tom Hiddleston?
Yes it is. And then “Wages of Fear” is bouncing around too."
>>638 I know nothing about Hard Boiled except that this title does not describe TH...at all. Also I think I've worked out his process for 'picking' a project:
Going by what others are saying about the material, I think he's going with a combo of 4 and 5 (without the Oscar bit) for this one. Maybe some 2 thrown in because this sounds action-packed and ultra-violent...just like a modern day James Bond...coincidence?
I don't pretend to know how acting works but there's something to be said about sticking close to the shoreline in every profession. Highlighting natural abilities and affiliations seems a far easier and better course.
>>638,639 Maybe it's also a therapeutic choice for him. He seems to go a bit method in his technique.
Some Tay Tay cardboard cutouts placed directly in his line of fire while filming could really draw out his inner demon.
Also, the character has a lot in common with his hairline.
I'm going to have a lot of trouble with this film if they color his hair bright orange.
>>638>>639>>640 In my humble opinion, Tom needs to pick better written, more cohesive scripts, with propulsive dramatic narrative arcs. Tom's problem is that he seems to pick creative and avant garde directors (del Toro, Ben Wheatley) and picks leading man roles, at the expense of the strenghth of the scripts that he choses. Tom kicked his tail preparing for and acting in Crimson Peak, High Rise, and I Saw the Light. Lighting a candle for King Kong : ) But the films were uneven because they had uneven scripts, and had odd pacing. Tom was a great supporting player in Midnight in Paris and War Horse. I would like him to focus more in that direction, and keep and eye out for a leading man role in TV, theater, or an indie film. Not sure how I feel about anyone else besides Daniel Craig as Bond, but Daniel got Bond due to his performance in the indie gangster drama Layer Cake, and his theatre credits.
Tom's not mentioned as a cast member of Jez Butterworth's new play, The Ferryman. Oh well.
>>642 I remember Anon called this one when the Crazy Intelligent blog was speculating about it (and probably making travel arrangements). I can't recall what CI said about it but she was probably as wrong about it as she is about most things, e.g., the voyeur movie, Tayto being real, half of her blog's name.
I think TH on stage may be on hold as he tries to be a leading man...watch him announce a play today now that I've said that.
>>639 Yes, it does help to show your fortes from time to time.
>>640 lol
>>642,643 I would have been surprised if he were part of the cast.
Speaking of good script and such, I'm surprised he didn't try to get a role in the new Murder on the Orient Express. Or maybe he did, who knows. I agree that his acting is better when the scripts are good (as his theatre work shows), he isn't the kind of actor who can sell everything.
I did say I thought it unlikely - it was slated for a West End transfer from the start (now confirmed), which I thought unlikely, as it would seriously interfere with movie ambitions. I also have never thought he is a Royal Court kind of man. As you probably know they only do new drama. I see him preferring tried and tested theatre, not new writing (not but what, Jez Butterworth is pretty much a sure thing).
>>641 I think what you say about his duff choices is spot on. I think he chooses for the character, for all the reasons you and Dottie identified - Oscar, leading man etc. He seems to believe that a great character, or his acting chops, can save a badly plotted movie. This has repeatedly been proven wrong.
Tom's latest GQ interview is out. Here are his thoughts about Tayto. I am leaving them here without comment because I am, for once, speechless:
“He explains that he wants to be honest with me, that it would be hypocritical of him to talk about honesty in the world and then not be with me. I have to understand, he says, that a relationship is between two people, that it doesn’t belong to him alone. But like David Cameron now knows, it is neither practical nor wise to let rumors hang in the air. He wants me to know that he has no regrets, he says, “because you have to fight for love. You can’t live in fear of what people might say. You know, you have to be true to yourself.”
I turn my tape recorder off and I stand up, but he doesn’t. He shakes his head again, his hands clasped together, and he hangs his head. I sit back down and we talk some more because I finally understand that he isn’t here as someone who needs to explain his side in a PR battle; he’s here as someone who is still crushed by the end of a relationship.
So we sit and talk for a while. We talk about how relationships go sideways, how the ripples of a breakup can still pin you to a wall even months later. We talk about heartache. We talk about sadness and healing. We talk about what it’s like to love and what happens when the object of that love withdraws but all your love is still there. We talk about how those things can really change a person. The world will chip away at your optimism, and you just have to fight back. You have to be someone who is still full of joy and full of love, who can still use a word like “obsessed” about porridge. You have to be bold and open. You have to be honest. You have to be like Tom Hanks. We all have to be more like Tom Hanks.”
This is the whole article, for anyone who cares to read: http://www.gq.com/story/tom-hiddleston-cover-profile
>>646 I had just seen the photos at Torrilla and read the cover "Tom Hiddleston is here to conquer America" and laughed and thought 'wow, we are always on time discussing this guy', but this! I think a need a moment.
But, as someone who studied in Italy, don't ask for Bolognese in Italy, it doesn't exist there.
Actually you have to read the article. All of you. And play a game I just invented called "count the lies." Here's one obvious one to get you all started. There are more subtle lies in the article as well:
“The truth is, it was the Fourth of July and a public holiday and we were playing a game and I slipped and hurt my back. And I wanted to protect the graze from the sun and said, ’Does anyone have a T-shirt?’ And one of her friends said, ’I’ve got this.’ ” The friend pulled out the “I ♥ T.S.” tank top that Taylor’s friends are contractually obligated to own. “And we all laughed about it. It was a joke.”
Goodness, is this even an interview? It's like she started with the intention of doing an interview and she ended writing an apology for TayTo. Honestly, this might just be my nail in the coffin.
>>649 I lost count and I don't even know where to begin with the content.
Her friends are contractually obligated to own a “I ♥ T.S.” tshirt, and you, 35 year old man, didn't find that idiotic?
I'm speechless, is this fanfiction supposed to help him?
“I only know the woman I met. She’s incredible.” Because the rest of us, plebes, only know people they don't meet.
>>651 He actually might not have brought a t shirt. He was depicted in one picture standing in a corner holding a glass of wine and wearing a blazer and slacks. I think Whatsinaname baptised that photo "the wallflower".
But the rest of it. Jesus H Christ. "“Taylor is an amazing woman,” reads the prepared statement Tom Hiddleston has memorized and is now giving me."
Yes, I bet he fucking did. That was the whole point of this set up, wasn't it? Give this bird 2 days' access (I think unparalleled in TH interview history), wait till she is gagging for the scoop, among other things, and then drop Tayto: the Tom Hiddleston version. ("I laaaaaaarved her!!!!!!").
How sweetly post modern to manipulate the media simultaneously with giving an interview about media manipulation.
I just noticed something hilarious. When Tom lies, he starts his sentence with "the truth is..." Anyone recall that interview with THR in July?
"Well, um. How best to put this? That notion is — look, the truth is that Taylor Swift and I are together, and we're very happy. Thanks for asking. That's the truth. It's not a publicity stunt."
I can't figure out if half the things in the interview are sarcasm or truth. I feel like Sheldon from Big Bang going "was that sarcasm?" From the "contractually obligated TS tank top joke among friends" to the "officially prepared statement" to the whole him being unprepared for the cameras following them around on their tour. It's a great interview for his stans though but I seriously can't figure out the sarcasm-honesty level in this...
It's embarrassing on both sides. How could a journalist worth this name buy this crap? A girl had a tshirt that fitted TH? None of the other dudes had a tshirt?
>>652 You can tell the way the interviewer wrote him telling that TS tank story and him saying it's a joke among friends, he knows HE was the joke. That's the one thing I was able to understand in that mess of an interview. I'm still shaking my head over his supposed awe at the cameras following them. Please don't expect us to believe the nonsense that they weren't called in by the publicist.
Maybe this is an alternativeinterview and in a few days GQ will publish the real one.
I am afraid I think this was a calculated and untruthful attempt to kick over the traces of a fake relationship that went badly wrong, and in such a way as to restore his reputation with his stans. Which it has done. Tumblr is already awash with dewy-eyed comments about his bravery and his sad puppy dog face when talking about how he loved TayTay and was bravely trying to be open about his relationships.
>>658 hahahahahahah! Given how things have been lately, I'm not surprised. Maybe Buzzfeed will leak the real interview lol
>>659 Yeah, it's a great interview for this fans who were looking to forgive him. If he hadn't worn the TS tank, I'd say Tom is cunning and did a sob story to win back his gullible female fanbase but this summer proves he's anything but cunning and neither is his PR. I'm also from the "relationship was real but sold to the highest bidder for fame" camp. I always felt they both decided to go extra hard on the fame by pretending they wanted to control the narrative but really he wanted to be a famous celebrity and she wanted to drown out Kimye but it all backfired. However with that in mind, I do believe Taylor forms friendships and relationships solely with publicity in mind because that's always been her MO and I don't think Tom is smart or savvy enough to play that game despite his thirst and that's why he got screwed over in the end which is not what he signed up for.
>>659 Also, let's be honest lol we all know Tom really loves his career. To expect us to believe he was in "love" in a supposed three month relationship...nope. Even the interviewer picked up on it that he didn't do impressions to make her laugh but rather got some sort of self validation out of the whole thing. The thirst is very real.
>>659 His stans already thought it was all TS's fault, he only provided them with the material to make it official. I'm not sure though how this will appeal to the general public.
Do you think he realizes that now he opened the TayTo door, everyone will want a piece? Or was that the purpose? Because, if I'm reading this interview right, difficult as it is, TS was the one who did the breaking and the one who wanted the publicity? So you can bet TS won't stay mum.
>>662 Oh, I think he was up for wearing the tank top and that proves he is cunning. Just not cunning enough to realise that it was going to make him look like a tool.
I do however think he is easily cunning enough to sell the sob story to his fan base. This whole interview is a leaf out of the TH playbook: the "authenticity", the impressions, the recycled anecdotes about the family, talking about Purity by Jonathan Frantzen (has he actually read any other books?), and the insistence on the bare faced lies about how they were "just acting normal, the photos were taken without consent" etc. He has added cooking to the repertoire of cliché, though. He was telling everyone about his spag bog at the BAFTA GG tea party.
And having her round to his house. He has never done that before for any interviewer. That said to me that this whole thing was a calculated publicity stunt. When a celeb "offers unprecedented access" it is 99% because they have a specific story to shill (all this to publicise Kong? I don't believe it for a second).
I don't want to harp on the t-shirt story because there is so much other shit to cover but...he had a t-shirt. https://www.pinterest.com/pin/339458890646294418/ He flew out of Heathrow in a perfectly fine, graze-covering tee. So unless he threw this t-shirt out of the escape hatch on his BA flight (those don't exist), he had a shirt. I want to also point out that there are two pictures of him - one on the slide and one in the pool - without a shirt. I suppose those pictures were taken before the injury requiring a doctor-recommended I <3 T.S. t-shirt. Also, he went from Taymerica straight to Oz...where he was spotted many times in...wait for it....wait...t-shirts. I don't think he picked those up at duty free. It's a small lie in a sea of bigger lies but it makes my blood boil because it is saying, to some extent, 'People will buy this weak shit.' It insults my intelligence.
I am genuinely surprised at how he just keeps getting it so wrong...in so many ways. Who the fuck is advising him, really? REALLY. This was not the way to address either the relationship or the t-shirt.
Sigh...my sighs are back.
>>654 Yep. That's the truth...I didn't have a tshirt...thank you for asking. The text between the ellipses can be filled in with any load of shit.
>>666 I agree, parts of this interview are off record, but magically makes it on record. It feels calculated and badly executed.
>>667 Thank you, I did remember but was too annoyed to look. it's as insulting as that interview with his buddy Cumberbatch and his unsolicited photos. They are taking us all for idiots.
>>666 You know what it is? I just read it on someone's tumblr and they are correct - Tom is playing victim. Just like Taylor. He's going the whole being personable and getting his heart broken when all he was doing was being "authentic and honest". He is playing victim and doing a whole boo hoo sob story so his willing stans will forgive him.
I guess now we get to sit back and watch who plays victim better - Tom or Taylor. Because I'm sure we're going to get something from Camp Swift on this interview.
To those of you saying his die-hards will eat this up...yes, they already have. I went to have a look at his twitter tag. Here's a general sampling:
I hate him, his blindly loyal stans, twitter, maybe everything. I have to go kiss baby feet because that is the only thing that can dampen the fires of hate I have raging inside me.
>>649 I've read it. It might be easier to play 'Find the Truths' - it will take less time but more concentration.
Also, did this woman suggest that all solidly middle-class families need to do to send three children to private schools, one of them being the eye-wateringly expensive Eton, is 'sacrifice?' Sacrifice what? Organs on the black market?
I'm going to go kiss those baby feet now....
>>670 No, no, New Anon, as a board we are the only sibyls, we were already saying he'll be using the victim strategy in
June
http://4-ch.net/tv/kareha.pl/1466753148/786,787
and July
http://4-ch.net/tv/kareha.pl/1467549924/625,965,969,971,981
>>671 Fires of hate about says it. I feel very over him. What is left of the shrivelled heart of my fandom? I like looking at pictures of him naked. That's about it, really. The photos accompanying the article show that he is still pretty beautiful, with fabulous bone structure.
>>672 Does Taffy know that it costs £30k a year to send a kid to Eton? My father didn't earn that much so he would have had to sacrifice food, shelter and paying taxes (sorry, HM Treasury! We are all in this together!). And when I was a kid, £30k a year was well above the average salary and solidly into middle class territory - still is above average salary even now.
>>673 Dammit I forgot! You guys DID predict it right then. Well now I definitely believe this whole GQ thing is an even bigger farce than the summer romance tour.
>>677 Yeah! He's really playing it up to the stans. He tries so hard to be cunning but too bad all his schemes blow up in his face though lol Not this one though, it's won him his disheartened stans back.
spinned? spun
Hi - new here, but had to de-lurk after the GQ puff-pastry forcefeed. Does his team really think no one will notice the timing of this attempt in relation to SI promotion?
>>681 Welcome!! >>678 Nothing much to say about the article except, I feel as if I need some Scotch to wash it down with. Obviously, I'm not buying what he's selling. Fake Tayto had to be addressed in a controlled environment/interview environment before the maelstrom of Monkey movie PR starts. The only positive things were that Tom took back his narrative. Also, Tom said such glowing things about TS, that in the eyes of the general public, she will look foolish/mean spirited if she writes a cruel song about him. And if you are casual reader of GQ or a Stan Tom fan, he could come off as a humble quiet living/nerdy guy who seemed overwhelmed and wounded by the media's coverage relationship and the split itself, unlike TS, who is known to court and manipulate the press. She swanned out of that gym in from of the press on break-up day like she didn't give a hoot about him. We'll see how this blue-eyed Bambi works for Tom. My goodness.
So many comments; instead of referencing as a reply, I'll just add my comments after reading this article twice.
Thoughts?
>>653 Ah yes, the endearing Wallflower photo. Joke was on him there, no matter what the HS stans say.
What I want to know is what TS said when she 'withdrew her love.' Was it on that weird flight where there's footage of her getting on her plane at the airport then leaving (off camera?)?
Okay >>683, revising #3, not beaten down, but angry, ready to say whatever it takes to take back the narrative.
Even Lainey Gossip is giving this article and TH's performance the side eye.
>>681,682 Yes, yes they do. Because they take us for mugs. He doesn't want to have to Charleston around questions or have his people sprinkle Tayto moratoria around. Enter Taffy and her fluff piece (with a weird tone, yes >>683). He's heartbroken about this real relationship, he's the good guy, she's the bad one, etc. He's hoping the ensuing sympathy will work on journalists as much as on the fans. Journalists probably won't buy what he's selling either (so many of them didn't when Tayto was touring). But because of this sob story, they'll maybe be reticent to ask about Tayto for fear of being seen as cruel, i.e., he's already addressed that, he's upset about the end of the 'relationship,' why did you have to bring it up in the middle of his movie promo?!?
It will probably work too...ugh, back to the feet.
Welcome >>681.
Good lord, I honestly can't make it all the way through the article it gives me so much second hand embarrassment. And as much as he says authentic the entire thing seems anything but.
Not even laineygossip is going for the interview. Really picked up on Taffy's tone.
Has this been posted? Were we all so shellshocked by the GQ article that this didn't get posted?
http://dlisted.com/2017/02/08/tom-hiddlestons-explanation-of-that-i-♥-t-s-tank-top-is-cringe-fuel/
Captcha: yeish - as in, Yeish, this shit is embarrassing cringe fuel.
>>689 Of the 60 reactions to the article, 45 of them are 'Bitch, please.' And only one of them is mine! I swear.
TH can fool the moist-eyed fangirls but not the Dlisted readers.
Just to finish Shirtgate here is a pic of him on the same day wearing a quite different t shirt: http://madsrocketship.tumblr.com/post/156994064190/when-to-just-never-bring-it-up
>>691 Looky there: the shirt from the airport pics, I believe. To quote Buddy the elf: You sit on a throne of lies.
If only there hadn't been photographic evidence to contradict your story, TH. If only TS hadn't so carefully and completely documented that entire weekend.
The irony is so deliciously sweet that I might be diabetic now.
And his PR team has already gotten to Gossip Cop to reinforce the spin! (I'd link but I don't know how to yet).
>>693 Heynon - You need just copy and paste the URL. If you're on your phone, it may be harder to isolate the page in your phone's browser first before you copy it.
>>694 Thanks; I was on my phone. Here's the Gossip Cop link: http://www.gossipcop.com/tom-hiddleston-taylor-swift-relationship-real-gq-cover-story-interview/
It rehashes the article and - surprise - rates it "10 - Real" that TH said that the relationship was real. I'm dizzy from all the spinning.
Dear me. The blind posts are already claiming that Tom is in the closet, Luke is the bf, and the US GQ cover was the deal if Tom talked about Tayto. If that were true, I would actually empathize with the entire situation.
Welcome Heynon! You're our first delurker for a while. Enjoy the madness!
>>689 Michael K gives me life. Like New Anon he also sees the sarcasm and snark in the interview. I read the interview again, I see it as well, but from what I read at CB, Taffy says on twitter she adores TH so I don't know.
I read the thread about this at CB, the stans didn't disappoint me in their hypocrisy.
Do you remember when EO's former fiancée, Boyd, in an interview a year after the fact said how heartbroken he was when she broke up their engagement (an engagement after a couple of years of relationship) on the phone? Do you remember TH's stans calling him whiny, to get over it? Because they needed to defend their precious TH from the accuse of being the cause? Ok.
Do you remember when Calvin Harris made a scene (he is a drama queen) because TS ended their relationship (almost 2 year long) to run off with TH? Do you remember TH's stans calling him whiny, to get over it? Because they needed to defend their precious TH from the accuse of being the cause? Ok.
Now we have TH crying on a journalist shoulder at 6 in the morning over the end of a relationship that lasted 3 months, do they call him whiny? Do they tell him to get over it? No, it's all "How sweet, how endearing". Where do I find a substitute for baby feet?