Thread to talk about the actor...oh fuck it. You know what to do
GossipCop posted the Hiddleston Today Show video, but no PR comment from his team.
>>146 A zero hour would be all he could get with that obvious chuckle of his. How did Roper not realize that you cannot trust a man who laughs like that?
>>151 Hahaha. A 10 on the truth meter. Yes, it's totally true that he was asked about TS on the Today Show.
OT Happy International Women's Day to the ladies of this board. I'm going to spend it tending to my husband and son since males are more important. ;) My husband's actual question to me this morning: What do you want me to do for IWD? This is the first time he's ever even mentioned IWD, and he asked for instructions. I told him: bring cake home, pick up dinner, change all the diapers and fix the wage gap. We'll see what he manages.
>>152 hehe (in honor to Pine) clearly villains all over the world are ignorant of the oldest tropes and we, the audience, are supposed to be as dumb.
Believe it or not, I've only now noticed the truth meter. I suppose bs meter was taken.
Happy IWD to all of you!
How's the press tour going, you ask? In googling 'Tom Hiddleston news' just now, results were:
Might be a new record for foot-in-mouth.
2 new reviews just out (AV Club, NY Daily News). Both pretty positive but neither mentions TH more than in passing.
More bristling:
"What’s the most frustrating thing about having your life sort of up for grabs?"
"It's not. No."
>>157 Yowzwr! And we get to see the bristling. Bit of blue steel there.
>>154 Expected. The shitshow of Tayto tends to overpower everyone and thing. We filled up our Tayto threads very quickly. And it's still the main topic on here. King Kong who, what?
He'll dislike this most. We mock, but he reallly does care about his work. And he always wants to fulfill his obligations to studios and his films. So it will be disappointing that Kong is taking a backish seat to Tayto, or at least having to sit sidegun to her.
Deserved? Probably. Fair. I'd say no.
>>159 Not fair at all. And I'm sorry he seems to be surprised things are not at all fair for him now. Cruel learning experience? At the very least. This will stick to him like a stain that'll never come out, and he doesn't deserve that imo.
>>157, >>158 He shut her right down, and didn't do his usual relenting explanation even though she was very flustered by his response. He may just have (re)grown a pair....
Also, in this he clearly walks back his "taking most of 2017 off" statement. Says he "took a month or two at Christmas," but doesn't give any details about what's next.
>>159, >>161 It isn't fair for the crew and rest of the cast of SI, certainly. And maybe at this point it isn't fair for him, but at the risk of sounding like my mother, life isn't fair. And at 36, it's time he learned how to handle that a little more smoothly if he's going to stay in the public eye at the level he otherwise seems to want.
I hope for Ragnarok that he, Marvel, and his team figure out how in advance how to deal with any Tayto/predictions about songs on her album questions. I think there may be fewer tayto questions (other than some taking the "it's been just about a year since..." tack), but more song speculation. Maybe his sense of humor will have come back by then.
EW has first pix up from Ragnarok. Anyone think they airbrushed a few years off Tom in this one? http://ew.com/movies/thor-ragnarok-exclusive-first-look-photos/loki-tom-hiddleston/
A new radio program with Tom. He retells a very funny anecdote from Coriolanus.
A new radio program with Tom. He retells a very funny anecdote from Coriolanus.
I post this in fun, but it could be the next tricky issue for TH.
As we know TH is chummy with Ed Sheeran singing his praise to this guy's latest album on the radio, getting invited to his secret concert and bobbing his head along (https://twitter .com/sharontharp/status/838913057975853056).
The day after his secret concert ES paid visit to his dearest friend TS. No, I'm not going to insinuate that she summoned ES to scold him for inviting TH or alternatively to question if TH is still hooked up on her.
It's just that yesterday (or today) Rolling Stones published an interview with ES where he proves to be a complete idiot. And I laughed because this could only happen to TH, complimenting a guy and then it turns out he's a moron.
http://www.celebitchy.com/526862/ed_sheeran_is_the_james_taylor_to_taylor_swifts_carole_king_so_says_swifty/#comment-15412320
This is the link to listen to the Heart Breakfast radio interview
http://www.heart.co.uk/london/on-air/aod/?episodeId=efbca9f4-cc0e-4f69-8a71-9ba5cd20ab5f
There's also a video on their website with a chunk of it.
http://www.heart.co.uk/london/on-air/breakfast/watch-tom-hiddleston-on-heart-breakfast/
There's a point where TH is asked if he is single (this is not on the video) and he says yes, absolutely and that no, he doesn't intentionally go out to look for a mate.
>>159 No it isn't fair to the film or him, but it was a predictable consequence. Who knows, maybe in the end he'll be right to get it out of everyone's system now instead of being asked for years as it happens with others TS's ex bfs.
>>166 The testing of the gf is the act of a twat. Of course TS would compare herself to Carole King, she's delusional. Of course ES would call her the most famous woman in the world, even when she's not.
If it's true that ES ghostwrites some of TS's songs, TH may consider this new love of ES self-preservation.
In other news, Yours Truly noted that TH honored IWD with a ribbon. I'm sure he wore it in honor of his mother, sister, niece and their willingness to stroll for the main man in their lives. After all, women are for publicity and legitimizing your fauxmance.
>>170 As a classical music lover, I have no love for bubble gum pop artists like Swift or Sheeran. And no young artists have the right to invoke the names of songwriter poets, like King and Taylor, period. Modern pop is melodically simple, and lyrically banal, so that young MTV kids w/o attention spans can easily consume it at speed. But Sheeran, by all accounts, has a warm and gregarious personality and vivacious social energy that envelops everyone he meets, from Elton John to even Demi Moore. So b/twn Tom's desire to be liked and Ed's affability I'm pretty sure they get along, in truth. Swedish producer Max Martin seems to be the mastermind of all the pop artists now from, Swift, to Timberlake, The Weeknd, Grande, and to Perry. So I think that Tom should befriend Max : )
The latest SI review round up. Generally pretty good (though not much attention for TH).
https://www.google.com/amp/m.eonline.com/amp/news/834916/kong-skull-island-review-roundup-critics-call-it-a-rip-roaring-rumble-in-the-jungle
>>172 The NY Times review calls TH "the world's prettiest mercenary." Heehee!
>>171 I wouldn't use EJ or DM as a personality yardstick anymore than I would TS.
>>173 Twas pretty that killed the beast...the prettiest.
>>172,156 Looks like it's shaping up to be a fun, exciting, entertaining but somewhat substance-less film: GCI monsters knocking six bells out of each other with questionable characterization and plot. There's a place for that so I don't think TH's reputation or box office pulling power will take a hit. But I do wonder if this is what he signed up for. He said he came onboard before it had a script which suggests he was lured in by words like: leading man, action hero. All good words for a man who wants to increase his star power. But with his usual absence of forethought, he neglected to realize that the leading man of a monster movie is always the monster.
(Here's hoping for a song entitled Pretty Mercenary of My Heart, or Soul Soldier or Love King on TS's next album.)
Its Rotten Tomato rating is a lot better than I feared when I read the Guardian review.
I think the technical movie term is "schlock." There's a place for that in the Hollywood ecosystem - often a very lucrative one. I thought the Avengers wasn't much different. Far too many characters, too much CGI, mostly poor characterisation (save Loki and a lot of his characterisation was assumed from Thor).
I actually think he needs a schlocky success. Money talks and he has had a lot of financial duds recently.
Well, the Olly mystery continues. He attended the premiere (see his Instagram), but whether as TH's assistant or as friend of Bryan and others as part of a holiday is impossible to tell. Keep your eyes peeled for pics of him and TH in London.
Apparently he has said he's "single and available." (Is there any practical difference for a man in his 30s?!). Couldn't find where.
>>174 haha - "pretty(est) that killed the beast" and song titles!
Well said about if this is what he thought he was signing up for (especially that the monster = the real leading man). This probably won't hurt him professionally, but neither will it give him the boost he may have been expecting. I feel a bit bad for him because he put so much work into his preparation for the role, and always works hard on set.
>>175 When I checked at lunchtime today, both RT and Metacritic numbers were pretty much where they were when the first reviews came out, so that's not too bad. I've seen a couple of articles saying SI's box office this weekend may depend on how much Logan's drops off at this point. They might about tie.
A couple of reviews called this "a B movie with an A movie budget," which I bet sums it up just right.
>>175 The Guardian and TH are never, ever getting back together. He was their guest for WHCD, he thumb-uped their article (emoji) and then a blonde and a fauxmance came between them.
>>177 Single and available - here that, closeted celeb lesbians? It's your turn!
I asked my husband. He did not consider himself 'available' while we were dating but he said he considered himself 'single' until he proposed. (I'm going to cut him in his sleep.)
I'm sure the Swift hive has heard. Reactions will include:
>>177, >>179 The "single and available" quote comes from the Heart Breakfast interview (at >>167). It's about about 2:38 in after the tag line game. The host asks 'are you single?' Tom's A: "I am, absolutely, yes sir." Q: 'Single and available?' A (laughing): "Isn't that the whole point of being single?"
This must have been recorded before his "my private life is PRIVATE GODDAMMIT PEOPLE LEAVE ME ALONE" tetchy phase. He's actually laughing. Can't wait to see all the dating proposals on his Twitter!
From some Tumbl anons, TH may have said in the past something like "you're technically single until there's a ring on your finger." So he seems to make the distinction between the two words as well. Be nice if guys could factor in "in a relationship" or at least "currently seeing someone"!
And apparently the "oh they're still secretly dating shippers" on Tumblr were crashing and burning at first, but now may be trying to come up with other interpretations of his words.
Hiddleston on Kimmel. He looks slick in black Gucci. Some awkward singing in spanish w Guillermo. Then a bit dry. Boarding school takes. So odd that I now hope for the best, and cross my fingers that if Tom gets a direct awkward question, then he will answer with PR approved confidence and competence . Standard tv appearance for Kong.
>>176 I already think like you, Olly probably isn't his PA anymkore, but next is Japan's premiere on the 15th, so we have another official occasion. In the meantime, in the video of TH arriving at Kimmels I don't see Olly.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/video/tvshowbiz/video-1426947/Tom-Hiddleston-arrives-Jimmy-Kimmel-Reservoir-Dogs-style.html
>>177 I posted it 😭
Huge King Kong model catches fire at Vietnam Kong premiere? Is this for real? Fleeing crowds. Did Tom's film barge really catch fire?!
>>182 The Kimmel appearance was pretty dull, imo. I'm so glad Jimmy jumped in to stop the singing bit before we could be reminded of how badly Tom sings! And the show got the tayto reference out the way the previous night (in their "Yaya" review of Kong). Not sure Kimmel would have asked him about it anyway (Colbert might have).
>>184 I googled the Vietnam premiere and the fire is covered by several outlets (though none I recognized). So it may well be for real.
Metacritic is holding steady; RT has dropped slightly to 79%.
>>182,184 This link open the KISS FM radio show :)
Here's the link to Kimmel
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iC9hmI1jRqI
>>182,184 This link open the KISS FM radio show :)
Here's the link to Kimmel
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iC9hmI1jRqI
This (after a heading about SI's 70s hair and "fashion goodness"); 'We determined that it pretty much doesn’t matter what decade, what time, what character, Tom is gonna show up in the tshirt, jeans and same awesome hair as yesterday.' Pretty much what I thought about him in High Rise. Guess he only does long hair when it's dark?
http://thats-normal.com/2017/03/10-reasons-see-kong-skull-island-arent-tom-hiddleston/
I asked my Japanese colleague some help to understand when the Japanese premiere for Kong will be, it's on March 15th in Shinjuku, Tokyo. While browsing she also found out that:
"The Japanese premier of "Kong: Skull Island" will be held in mid-March and GACKT, who provides the Japanese voice dubbing for the main character Conrad, will attend!!On that day, cast members Tom Hiddleston, Brie Larson and Samuel L. Jackson will come to Japan for the premier. For the first time, a Western movie will have a red carpet spread down the 120.1 meter long Godzilla Road in Shinjuku, and will greet 1000 Japanese fans!! Will we see GACKT and Tom Hiddleston together...?"
(this was on Gackt's website)
She says that Gackt is a big deal musician there and a heartthrob and there'll probably be a general fangirl meltdown for him at the red carpet. In any case, this is going to be fun.
>>189 That premiere does sound like fun. Maybe the fangirl meltdown will help TH feel better about his fans!
>>189 Just googled GACKT. He looks like a trip! A musician? Maybe he and TH can do a duet...and a dance together. Would Japan still be standing after the tsunami of feels such a pairing would generate? (I want to write for GACKT's website.)
>>183 You can tell we're not feeling it the same as before. I still find it hard to watch interviews. I'm getting better at listening to them. Best: everything is reported third person.
>>183 What was the guy checking for previous to giving TH the all-clear? Was he worried Savannah Guthrie was going to jump out with more TS questions? This video also tells me that Yours Truly is going to give an interview where she talks about how the pocket square has 'really revolutionized men's fashion,' and TH's look in particular. She loves a pocket square. She'll also subtly tell us that she invented the pocket square.
>>191 haha I've been trying to get my interest back by posting stuff and forcing myself to watch and listen. I suggest you don't watch Horowitz, when he asked TH if he dances at concert or he stands still all I could think about was Selena Gomez's concert.
>>191 He is apparently! (I asked my colleague for some more info) He is 43 but for years he claimed he was over a hundred years old, but he can sing (and play) so TH might want not to go there.
LOL, Yours Truly it's a case study.
https://soundcloud.com/empiremagazine/253-tom-hiddleston
Starts around 38:00. The IMDe-bunker was the perfect opportunity to ask about Tayto. The languages part was interesting. Guess he didn't pick up any Italian when in Rome with TS. He was probably looking at an online translator on his phone in that one pic. ;)
Interview about Tom's career. They used a similar Tinker, Tailor, Soldier, Spy reference that the Sun did over the summer, in their title for the article. Kind of a retread of Tom's views about art, fame, education, and story telling in general. He side steps the summer spectacle, while the author described the alleged romance as brief and bizarre. Ouch. Bond speculation about any actor besides Craig is a bit silly.
"Last day in Hollywood and came across John Goodman's star unveiling. Managed to capture @brielarson & the back of @twhiddleston 's head."
https://twitter.
com/jamesjdunham/status/840299611990429696/photo/1
>>193 A debunk opportunity lost, too bad :)
About languages, I forgot that photo! haha
Last night at Kimmel's he did a rehearsed bit where he was singing in Spanish, Kimmel commented his Spanish was so so and asked about other languages he spoke, TH admitted to speak little Spanish and to have a passable French.
But his fans didn't make the languages stuff up, video proof of him saying he speaks Italian https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8FwinI-G_tY
And there was a video during War Horse where he said stuff in Ancient Greek https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2E0c1DgiYDI
>>194 it reads like rehashed bits of past interview, particularly his answer about marriage.
You can find more photos of TH @ yesterday's ceremony for JG's star at Torrilla's.
Also, always from Torrilla, China's premiere for Kong will be on the 16th http://tw.weibo.com/5685400200/4084078561562605
so it's either the day after or before Japan's.
>>196 He's a bad Classicist for calling Latin a dead language. It has a dictionary, Tom, not a lexicon.
Unsurprisingly, he's not been completely honest with his language knowledge, no one ever is. I would say I'm 'passable' at Spanish and Italian but both are really just tourist level. When I try to write Italian on a film messageboard I frequent, the others are always like, 'It's okay, we can use English. Really!' In that clip, I believe he says 'parla Italiano pero...' This makes me think he thinks he kinda knows Italian because he studied Latin and knows some Spanish.
>>197,194 There may be new stuff in there but some old is mixed in. I'm almost certain he gave that marriage answer last year (but he does recycle stuff too).
>>198 These two are very important for the overseas box office. And as you pointed out, Legendary is now Chinese owned. They will want to impress.
I have a question. How much does Kong need to make to be profitable?
The filming budget was around 190-200 mil. I feel like the promotion may reach a quarter of that, maybe more. I have no idea how much a promo push costs but they are pulling out all the stops for this one. It's like cashmere, it just feels expensive.
Captcha: puffazz...TH needs to bring more puffazz to this promo.
>>194, >>197, >>199 Odd article, I thought; wonder when the interview was done? Spends almost as much time rehashing his PR fails of the last year as it does on positives about him.
Sounds as if he's trying to position himself how as above the celebrity fray. But the article points out the contradiction later: > ' It’s hard though to match the enigmatic aspect of Hiddleston the actor to his more approachable, humorous side. The photos following his cringeworthy Golden Globe speech, clutching his gong and grinning with boyish glee, suggest a less serious streak which perhaps we’ll see more of as his career develops. ' < Yeah, if he forgets the lessons of this past year....
Many of his quotes sounded recycled, including the marriage one. But has he said this before? > '...every conversation about his success goes back to just one conclusion: art is forever; fame is fleeting. “One of the things I found interesting about playing [legendary country and western singer] Hank Williams is that he was driven to be the biggest singer in the business and then when he finally got there he found out that there was nothing there,” he says with a magician-like flourish. “Being a star didn’t solve any of his problems and didn’t make him feel any better about who he was or his personal life. There’s a good lesson there.” ' < If Tom hasn't said that before, then maybe he has learned something that will stick.
>>193, >>196, >>199 About his Spanish, at the M. City premiere, he was asking the presenters for words when he had to make his little speech. And I've seen interviews for Spanish outlets where he can understand something said to him in Spanish and answer with a few phrases, but doesn't try to conduct the interview in it. So it probably is "tourist level." And I saw a video with him about his French (I think) where he says that he understands it much better than he speaks it. And another he which he sings a little bit in Italian and says that that's all he knows. So I think he and/or the press exaggerate the number of languages he "speaks," if they mean "speaks fluently."
I have seen a vid of an interview with him in modern Greek, though; I'll try to dig that out. Might be why he thinks of Latin as "dead" - but way to sell youngsters on studying classics!
>>201 He did during the ISTL promo, I don't remember if he was quoting the BBC's documentary about HW or something he read about him. It's possible he said it again for this interview, it's hard to tell given how the interview is presented.
>>199 The Italian thing is curious since he has been consistent about his level in French (intermediate I'd say) and Spanish (low intermediate, he says he understands more than he speaks). In Italian he says "Io parlo italiano però.." and I think he wanted to add something in Italian but words failed him and he moved forward. Maybe he was trying to impress.
Latin and Greek surely can help guessing some words meaning, but Italian is completely different language, so I'd say tourist level is probably right for him.
But his answer in that podcast is interesting because maybe he remembered saying differently and decided to be accurate to avoid confusion. Whether it's because he can't complain about lies being said about him and then be ambiguous, or because he decided to stop trying to impress people it's difficult to say.
>>203 Ah, thanks. Yes, there wasn't a description in the article of how he said it (cooly, enthusiastically) as there were for some other quotes, so it might just have been pulled from another piece.
>>202 My bad; the Greek interview only has him reading ancient Greek (sounds very nice, though!): https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U5BcuHxsxTo
A recent one where he's quizzed on some S. American Spanish - he doesn't even know that "gato" is cat. Very funny part at the start where he learns that the two sides of his face can say different things in the same photo (though that meme's been around a while): https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0IWtI1WWVKM
>>200 That's a difficult question to answer, I think we posted something for Crimson Peak about how it takes years for films to make money back because studios don't make much money from cinemas and they basically operate on debt economy.
I don't believe for a second that Kong has the same budget of Thor2, but let's say that's correct, promo usually costs half the production budget, so at least 300 to break even, but as I said in reality they probably need to do twice that.
I leave you this article, it's quite interesting
http://io9.gizmodo.com/5747305/how-much-money-does-a-movie-need-to-make-to-be-profitable
>>200, >>206 Deadline is saying this about break even: "If Kong: Skull Island is going to breakeven after all ancillaries, he’ll need to mint in the mid $500M worldwide range per Deadline sources." -- http://deadline.com/2017/03/kong-skull-island-logan-weekend-box-office-get-out-1202040377/
>>200, >>206, >>207 But from the same Deadline article (>>207>, "Let’s face facts: When you build a feature film for $185M and spend an estimated $136M global P&A on it (that’s how much it took to launch Godzilla), you don’t wish for an opening that’s in the $50M range. When you spend this much, the intent is to pull in four-quads. Seriously, I don’t think it was any studio executive’s plan for Kong: Skull Island to open like a sequel, meaning it’s 41% down from Godzilla’s $93.2M opening."
captcha: wow
>>201 I remember during the ISTL promo, Tom kept quoting the BBC documentary on Hank Williams, "legends don't know the're legends when they're being made..., etc" I saw that docmentary, and one of Hanks friends said that Hank got to the top of his profession, reached stardom, and realized he had left everything he loved back down at the bottom. Tom references that quote all the time, but I think that the observation about that celebrity not bringing personal emotional contentment, and that being a good lesson is not a statement I remember reading.
Tom became quite guarded after he realized that the fans were getting too close in social media, after he engaged with them daily and took pics for hours at events, and he started giving these very specific and calculated interview answers, where it was obvious that he didn't want to be misunderstood. And he would still re contact the journalist to clarify things. That was why this summer was a shock. B/c Tom doesn't trust the press to report interpret his truth, even in a controlled situation, where he's talking about his films and his world views. But Tom engaged in a ridiculous spectacle, and he somehow thought the press would magically print the right observations about the scenario? Odd. He's kind of fibbing about Italian. Tom took some classes while he made the film Unrelated, but said that he mainly can sing Volare, then he sang Volare.
>>207,208 This is also interesting. Boxofficemojo confirms the estimated opening http://www.boxofficemojo.com/news/?id=4273&p=.htm
It could always gain momentum (although this kind of popcorn flick either starts well or it sinks). However, as we said posts ago, this film was always going to need the foreign market, doing well in the US is a good start, but it was never going to be enough.
>>209 This is odd. In searching to see if Tom said that previously about Hank Williams, I found this article. It has the same content as the Square Mile one (plus some additional paragraphs) and the same wording in the shared content (though it's restructured to look like a Q&A). Plus there's no byline. What do you think - do fake interviews get published? http://striplv.com/component/content/article/25-articles/interviews/964-tom-hiddleston-the-interview.html
>>210 Sounds as though it's doing fairly well overseas so far: http://deadline.com/2017/03/kong-skull-island-opening-tom-hiddleston-international-box-office-1202040085/
>>211 We talked about this phenomenon when ISTL came out - not sure if you were lurking then.
A number of things seem to happen:
1) there is a round table meeting with a group of journalists. You get the same quote, more or less, but occasionally with a change of emphasis. Presumably because that journalist's tape recorder didn't quite pick up the exact words, or their first language is not English or whatever.
2) An independent journalist interviews TH and then sells that interview to a few publications. They chop and change as they see fit, so it is all strangely familiar but you again get different emphasis.
3) An old article is sold again when the subject becomes of renewed interest, or is repurposed, or cut together with interviews from other interviews.
I think that we are looking some variant of (3) using an old ISTL interview. Look at how much he talks about ISTL and how little about Kong; the intro referring to ISTL, EO (remember when everyone asked him about her?), to him being 35 and wearing a pale top (not seen on this press tour).
Remember, he had finished filming Kong before he started doing the ISTL tour. It is not surprising they would ask about it. They have rewritten the interview to put those bits first and make it look new.
(BTW I also know because I definitely recall the comment in this interview about marriage not having come to him - and that this was in fact the interview which was a round table with lots of journos and got reported in several slightly different ways. My guess is one or more journos has repurposed this interview from last year. Not surprising as press access to TH has been much more restricted this time round).
>>204 Ah, I heard 'parla.' 'Parlo' is better of course. The 'pero' is his Spanish; should be 'ma.'
>>205 His Greek pronunciation is excellent. I've always said this. I wonder if he had a non-British Greek teacher. I saw the Greek plays at Cambridge and UCL when in the UK. I was always shocked at the difference in pronunciation from American - and not just because of the underlying accents. His is different.
>>206 Half?! Lord have mercy. It is cashmere...CASHmere.
>>209 And quoting it in the damn accent. I hated that accent.
>>215 I was taught pero means however in Italiano. But that is how crap my Italian is! Maybe it's six and one half dozen.
>>213 All of this. There was that one ISTL group interview that popped up everywhere and was both familiar (quotes, subject matter) but also different (format, emphasis).
They are now easier to spot.
There may be some new in there but it's more old than anything.
>>213, 216 Thanks, Anon and Anon. - I wasn't lurking here yet for ISTL. I noticed those references to his age, but they must have added a bit about his GG win. So his quoted views on marriage are likely pre-tayto.
>>214 His accent didn't bother me in the movie (but I wouldn't know an accurate Alabama accent if it bit me). It did bug me when he'd do it live, though - way too much cognitive dissonance!
The Telegraph trying to make up for having reported him replying testily to a tayto question (and then having that picked up by every other possible outlet? -- "He's sincere, uncool, and all too vulnerable. But does Tom Hiddleston deserve your cynicism? " Not an interview; comes across like the taffy article without quite as much subtle snark and obvious pathos.
Sample: "The 36-year-old, by all appearances, is a very sincere, very earnest and very enthusiastic man, who wears his heart on his sleeve, and likes to tell people all about his heart. And then, just for good measure, all about his sleeve. At school, you feel, he wasn’t just the kid who answered the question: he’d answer the question, then add in some extra facts and a personal anecdote or two, before thanking the teacher for asking him in the first place. And while these qualities may endear him to his fans, others seem to think that they should, perhaps, be moderated."
(requires free registration or can log in through Facebook) http://www.telegraph.co.uk/films/0/sincere-uncool-vulnerable-does-tom-hiddleston-deserve-cynicism/
Bless. He liked an Instagram of a shirtless Hemsworth. (See Torrilla)
http://insanely-smart.tumblr.com/post/158309170048/hes-sincere-uncool-and-all-too-vulnerable-but
Some people are re blogging the article on tumblr. It actually is very sympathetic towards Tom. I wish Tom the best, but I don't think he got into this summer mess b/c he is so vulnerable. It was because he is so ambitious. And the awards speeches aren't written well b/c he doesn't understand his level of fame in the US (which is not what it is in the UK), or how his demeanor comes off to Americans in those moments. People didn't malign Tom's character b/c they're jealous of his talent or b/c they are too cynical to understand earnestness, it was because they didn't think he was being authentic. I think Kong opened int he US with 60 million at the box office. Let's see how it holds against Beauty and the Beast.
>>218>>220 Like everyone, he deserves cynicism if warranted. What the Tele is saying is we are cynics because
...and a whole load of others. Are we cynics for doubting 'narratives' celebrities present to us? Yes, with good reason. The same is true for TH. I don't think everything he does is disingenuous, far from it. But I'm not so naive as to think everything is true and without ulterior motive. Mostly because I'm not 14.
I actually discussed the fakeness of Tayto with my husband as a result of this article. What was most interesting to me about his reaction was that he thought I was slightly bonkers (possibly true!) until I told him of the photo shoot with the niece. At this point he was horrified (I think he had genuinely forgotten all about it except that they had at some point been in the same town as us) and also immediately accepted that it was fake.
>>220, >>221 Maybe it's just too cynical of me, but:
Riiiiiiiight.
>>223 The Tele made nice in their review, one of the early positive ones. And mentioning that TH got pissy when asked a valid question requires no apologies, that I can see. I would hope The Telegraph would not feel the need for puff pieces like GQ. If anything their first piece probably pulled in the clicks and registrations. This popularity may have spawned a second article.
Has GC weighed in? Is it 10/10 that we are all too cynical when it comes to buying TH's bullshit?
>>224 haha, no GC on this yet. But they did give a 10/10 for SI topping the weekend box office!
On the lighter side, an analysis of Tom's t-shirt in SI (with pictures): https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.popsugar.com/entertainment/Tom-Hiddleston-Kong-Skull-Island-Pictures-43281599/amp
TH at Tokyo Narita Airport
https://twitter.
com/CollectAll/status/841206516346642437
https://twitter.
com/hiddles_colin/status/841207441580744704
"After taping #JimmyKimmelLive on March 9, 2017 in Los Angeles, #TomHiddleston records a message with Grace Baker (@disneycastle88) to his fans thanking them for their generosity in supporting #UNICEF."
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fAcHC57XY
"Weekend Box Office: 'Kong: Skull Island' Scales $61M for No. 1 Finish"
"Overseas, Kong: Skull Island opened to $81.6 million from 65 markets — minus China, where it hits theaters March 24 — for a global bow of $142.6 million."
"The one major caveat: The movie, costing at least $185 million to make before a major marketing spend, will likely need to earn $500 million globally to land in the black."
I saw this posted at CB, thought it was interesting since we were talking about it. Now all it's left to be seen is whether the film will continue.
>>227 Is it wrong that I want him to end up on one of those crazy Japanese tv/game shows? The ones where he has to spend an hour in a room with an angry goat or answer questions while standing on a disappearing platform over a pit of water.
If he doesn't make at least one appearance in an inflatable sumo suit, I will be disappointed.
OT We lost an hour because of DST AND we're under a blizzard warning. It is officially the crappiest Monday ever. My MIL came over this morning with 'supplies.' My MIL considers sparkling water, expensive cheese and smoked salmon to be 'survival basics' so I'm not complaining. She also brought over the ingredients for blinis because 'those are (hubby's) favorites, remember?' They're not, lady; I remember that.
>>230 Not wrong at all - it's hilarious! Though after the latest round of interviews, he might be too good at the questions/platform water type.
To cheer up your crappy Monday (I'm in a blizzard warning here too), you might enjoy the comments on Conan O'Brien's tweet that "I should have predicted this would happen - my kids saw "Kong: Skull Island" and now they want their own pet Hiddleston.":
https://twitter.
com/ConanOBrien/status/841336795577094144
>>230 For now, we only have a morning show (it wasn't pre-recorded)
photo: https://twitter.
com/nebulas_fujinan/status/841447296067821568
small video: https://twitter.
com/bubbles_love80s/status/841467514320125952
>>230, >>232 No video yet (alas), but Tom apparently was demonstrating his samuri sword skills on this other show:
http://68.media.tumblr.com/c78dd1d46a006b85d0ce7842240dc79e/tumblr_omsp7l98S81u5j9sco2_1280.jpg
http://68.media.tumblr.com/f766542bffafa5b4eacd13edc2c26175/tumblr_omsp7l98S81u5j9sco3_1280.jpg
>>233 The guy in the video is Eric Nam Korean-American singer, television host etc. This is for the Korean TV
http://www.vlive.tv/video/24873
>>235 haha he looked like a frost giant next to her!
>>235 I also like how, when he spots the translator, he immediately looks to his other side as if to check for any other unexpected short people.
>>234 He's a comparatively well-behaved attention puppy in this one. He declines to dance, and dodges singing too. But he keeps looking off-camera to his publicist whenever he thinks he's been funny!
He does mention that he'll be working on something next week that he can't talk about. But when asked directly about what's next, he only mentions T:R and Early Man, and some things that are "cooking."
>>235 Speaking of yours truly: http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/lists/25-powerful-stylists-hollywood-985222/item/micaela-erlanger-power-stylists-2017-985211
This is a dire article. It suggests with a straight face that Ruth Negga (of Loving fame) only became well known because she acquired a stylist.
>>238 Yours truly is going to have to style up some new coats soon, from all the tails she's been riding on. Sorry, not sorry.
>>237 I was expecting more tv material, one morning Japanese tv show and a Korean program. I guess they did more print interviews.
He is participating to an event on Sunday with Redmayne, probably Early Man related. Or his documentary. Or IW.
I picked up on something in this Korean video, more trivial than the languages issue, I'd say closer to his smoking statements. At some point he is asked if he tasted a strong Korean liquor, he says no, that he isn't much of a drinker. It made me wonder if he isn't much of a drinker by British standards, since I would interpret that as drinking rarely and not much. And then I remembered him mentioning how he liked vodka in a 2012 interview http://www.gq-magazine.co.uk/article/tom-hiddleston-interview-style-thor-2
and gulping down 5 shots of whiskey during an ElleUK interview
http://www.elleuk.com/life-and-culture/culture/articles/a30865/tom-hiddleston-interview/
By the way, why I was searching for the ElleUK interview on their website I got a list of all the articles on TH by ElleUK, look at their extensive coverage of tayto http://www.elleuk.com/search/tom%2520hiddleston?
>>238 Casey Affleck's stylist, enough said.
>>239 Haha! Yes, she has been milking this for all it's worth.
>>241 I guess all things are relative (I enjoy a tipple; you overindulge; he is an alcoholic).
However that GQ interview was a while back (2012), and I think also the Elle mag one (2013?). He has lost weight since then and works out more; and he is further away from his student days. So it might be true. He also said in the interview that he liked "a" vodka - meaning perhaps when he goes out he only has one drink. Most Brits would probably call that "not much of a drinker." Anyway, I tend to think that vodka and tonic is a drink for people who don't like drinking in the sense that they don't like the taste. It is so bland - all you can taste is the mixer.
>>245 Thanks, I wasn't doubting his words, but I was wondering if it's more of a recent attitude or he always considered himself not much of a drinker by comparison to other Brits.
video from Tokyo's premiere
https://twitter .com/warnerjp/status/841943289553129473
https://twitter .com/warnerjp/status/841948529299972097
https://twitter .com/warnerjp/status/841951963369619457
https://twitter .com/warnerjp/status/841956124551184384
https://twitter .com/warnerjp/status/841965537601118208
https://twitter .com/warnerjp/status/841970267760992256
I'm sure torrilla will post HQ photos soon enough. I'm disappointed Gackt and TH didn't walk the red carpet together!
https://www.instagram.com/p/BRp_bpEFnbj/?taken-by=gackt
>>242 Is this another example of TH 'falling out' with a media outlet. Their coverage of him in 2013-14 was huge and oleaginous (sexiest, man of, etc.). Then, from a quick glance at dates and stories, nothing from 2015 and no mention of CP or HR (only one of ISTL from when it was announced).
They pick up with him again in 2016, mostly Tayto, and it's snarky. They, like many of us, have a 'history' with him and were quick to note, several times, that Tayto wasn't like his previous approach to relationships. And their take on his explanation of the shirt: Oh, Tom.
He's had as much luck sticking with a magazine/newspaper as he's had finding The One: Susannah, Jane, Elle, The Guardian. Now it's GQ's turn but I have a feeling the 'break-up' list will grow.
>>247 I'll admit to falling into the rabbit hole of Gackt's IG. And I'm not sorry. It was magical. Those aren't his real lips, are they? Those aren't his real pecs, are they? Either way, I love him. Excuse me while I decamp to the Gackt board.
>>243 Nuff said indeed.
>>241>>245 Bet he put a few away during the summer! Remember the giant, nearly empty wine glass in the porch pic? The one he was gripping like Charleton Heston gripping a gun. In the 'wallflower' one I'm pretty sure he's holding a champagne flute. He must have been three sheets to in order to get through that weekend.
Captcha: shive - Prison drama on the horizon for TH?
>>248 I think Anonon and I talked about it during CP promo and we thought it might be because ELLEUK's director was close friend with JA, so after Tahiti there might have been a fallen-out.
Whatever the reason though, I find it unprofessional on their side because they exploited him to get clicks and sell copies (remember when Annabel Brog wrote an article taking credit for introducing TH to Hank?) and then dropped him over something that was hardly personal for them. As present or former fans we commented out of disappointment, they did it in self-interest. (btw Lorraine Candy left ElleUK in Nov. 2016 to go work for Sunday Times and Annabel Brog left too in 2014 so that might also be a reason)
