Previously:
#1 http://4-ch.net/dqn/kareha.pl/1213916710/
#2 http://4-ch.net/dqn/kareha.pl/1250275007/
#3 http://4-ch.net/dqn/kareha.pl/1292544745/
#4 http://4-ch.net/dqn/kareha.pl/1315193920/
#5 http://4-ch.net/dqn/kareha.pl/1326391378/
#6 http://4-ch.net/dqn/kareha.pl/1333279425/
#7 http://4-ch.net/dqn/kareha.pl/1340196069/
#8 http://4-ch.net/dqn/kareha.pl/1346800288/
#9 http://4-ch.net/dqn/kareha.pl/1353182673/
#10 http://4-ch.net/dqn/kareha.pl/1360549149/
#11 http://4-ch.net/dqn/kareha.pl/1367260033/
#11.5 http://4-ch.net/dqn/kareha.pl/1367260120/
#12 http://4-ch.net/dqn/kareha.pl/1372849946/-255,257-
#13 http://4-ch.net/dqn/kareha.pl/1368127055/
#14 http://4-ch.net/dqn/kareha.pl/1395672319/
#15 http://4-ch.net/dqn/kareha.pl/1409746601/
#16 http://4-ch.net/dqn/kareha.pl/1420075161/
#17 http://4-ch.net/dqn/kareha.pl/1430947686/
#18 http://4-ch.net/dqn/kareha.pl/1440133389/
#19 http://4-ch.net/dqn/kareha.pl/1447380051/
#20 http://4-ch.net/dqn/kareha.pl/1454364216/
#21 http://4-ch.net/dqn/kareha.pl/1462941578/
#22 http://4-ch.net/dqn/kareha.pl/1473295155/-383,385-
#23 http://4-ch.net/dqn/kareha.pl/1480168637/
#24 http://4-ch.net/dqn/kareha.pl/1489348442/
#25 http://4-ch.net/dqn/kareha.pl/1503631448/
#26 http://4-ch.net/dqn/kareha.pl/1519019746/
#27 http://4-ch.net/dqn/kareha.pl/1526013591/
#28 http://4-ch.net/dqn/kareha.pl/1529348654/
#29 http://4-ch.net/dqn/kareha.pl/1531317324/
Let's try to get along edition
>>193-195
I also identified with Levin when I first read it, but that was mainly because I was a shy teenager who liked the idea of the "nice guy" getting to be rich and marry a hot girl.
When it comes to Russian literature I much prefer Dostoevsky. He's like the edgier version of Tolstoy. I found Crime and Punishment, The Double and The Idiot much more interesting than Anna Karenina and War and Peace.
Also, Anton Chekhov has some pretty damn good short stories.
>>196
The Plague is pretty good! My recommendation for DQN is Annihilation by Jeff Vandermeer. It's like an SCP article but much more well-written. Creepy in a fascinating way. (Also, apparently a movie came out recently, but I haven't seen it yet.)
>>192,194,198
Funny, that was almost my exact same impression too (and I was also a shy teenager when I read it). I found Levin's subplot to be much more engaging and interesting and the main plot almost kind of frustrating, so much so that the return due date to the library came up for that book when I was almost done with it and I didn't even finish it, just turn it back in. Anna seemed to basically be suffering from a bad case of what we in 2018 would call "first world problems" and decided to wreck the lives of herself and everyone around her over it.
One thing in particular stuck out to me that I still remember about it to this day. At one point, I think it's after the affair is found out but before they're officially divorced, Anna and her husband are having a conversation in French about something. The text says something about how they're talking in French because in Russian 'ty' feels too intimate and familiar and 'vy' feels too cold and distant. I wonder if that's just some supremely subtle satire by Tolstoy on the xenophilia of the Russian aristocracy at the time, anything Russian was plain and poor and was for the uneducated serfs, anything foreign was for us educated elites. Aren't 'tu' and 'vous' the exact same word?
>>200
My interpretation was just that speaking in a second language provides you with an emotional buffer. Just as curse words don't feel offensive in a second language, using 'vous' would feel neither too intimate nor too distant for non-native speakers.
But you made me curious so I did some googling, and found this: http://languagehat.com/ty-and-vy-then-and-now/
According to the comments, the French word "vous" was considered neutral among the Russian aristocracy at the time.
If anything I would guess that rather than satire, Tolstoy was just writing realistically.
There's a lot of things I hate about modern internet rhetoric, but the latest one is "Repeat after me."
Repeat after me: You. Are. Fucking. Annoying.
Repeat before me: wowtchable
>>198
The Annihilation movie was pretty good. They cut a lot and the ending was weird, but you get some cool monsters.
>I cracked up reading [...] how a Russian speaker in Israel used to explain to his Hebrew speaking friends that vy is a polite form of addressing others – until he overheard two pensioners quarelling outside his apartment. One of them said: gytyu r ~p zh.
Ah, I love this. Good find.
>>204
Shit, man, I was about to say....
brb, gotta surf somotion
>>202
or putting the clap emoji in between words
don't 👏 call 👏 yourself 👏 a 👏 [some title] 👏 unless 👏 you 👏 do 👏 [some gatekeeping bullshit] 👏
or
PSA: [condescending thing], folks
This mouse sucks and I hope its designer is stung directly on the anus by a bumblebee
>>209
Mice are obsolete. It's all about touchpads and touch screens now.
feeling very sad today
Maybe there's an evolutionary advantage to depression and suicide. Your brain evaluates that you're worthless, and as such, the tribe is better off without you. Your death means the resources go to the other people in the tribe, which helps them continue one. I'm not suicidal, just sad and thinking about dumb shit.
The phrases which encourage you to start something always bother me because I see consistency as more of a problem. I mean phrases like "The journey of a thousand years begins with a single step." It's not enough to start, you must continue.
>>217
It's because eventually you'll build up momentum and continuing is easier if it becomes a force of habit.
But I hate those bromides, they are meaningless to me.
>>210
Sure, if all you do is read the internet
I feel like I'm about to get myself into a vintage iOS-chan back-and-forth
bloat
>>219
most people aren't 1337 gamers and Linux users
your personal tech choices =/= tech trends
What is happening to me?
theoretically shouldn't touchpads be great for FPS? You could just tap on the enemy's head for an instant headshot
>>225
How would you turn around? Other player moves out of your sight, by the time you move you get gibbed.
There's threads on this board from 33 years ago! Don't believe me though, check it out for yourself. http://archives.4-ch.net/dqn/subback.html
I played Unreal Tournament a lot on a touchpad when I hurt my shoulder years ago. It was fine.
A touchscreen, though, different story.
We shouldn't bother arguing with anti-vaxxers, we should just let their kids die and thus remove a bit of stupidity from the gene pool.
>>225
mouse movements for touchpads are relative, so you'd need to aim just like on a mouse, except slower. and a big enough movement combined with an insensitive enough mouse configuration might mean you'll run out of space on the touchpad, and your hand will need to travel all the way back to the start of the touchpad and then drag it again to complete the movement.
of course it depends on your settings i guess, but it was pain for me.
touchpads are fine for work though, if your desk, chair and tablet are positioned correctly, they are comfy. especially the apple one, or the wacom pen&touch, which are big with a lot of travel room.
I don't buzz much about famous people, but I'm glad Harry Potter seems to have embraced the "aging child star" look and taken insane-person roles instead of becoming insane or just acting like he's super important or good looking in a desperate attempt to avoid the inevitable vaudeville stage hook. The fact that he still gets paparazzi and shit could validate that, but he has reached the possibly enviable position of remaining famous by making it look like he's not fucking trying (even though he probably is).
I don't have to think of anything.
Old customer today: "Getting old's a bitch but it's better than dying."
When's this football game going to start?
I feel like I should like Kraftwerk but it's just so boring and cheesy
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mDCd6-aZvlw
Are you gonna support her dream?
durr
This is my board
>>222
Listen iOS-chan, you can't ignore all (Windows) business users, Photoshop and friends, literally anyone who types for a living, ...
>>240
If you think they're boring now, wait til you see them live
>>240 A lot of it is stuff that was novel at the time but has become kind of trite over the years as so many electronic and hip-hop artists were influenced by them. It's kind of like going back and watching Rashomon after decades of watching modern movies with modern cinematic devices and storytelling that were inspired by it, it makes you think "duh? where is the mystery here?".
Or at least I can see how someone would say that, personally I really enjoy both Kraftwerk and Rashomon unironically.
imagine the absolute state of low iq amerrrica
I really had fun watching Rashomon and seeing Kraftwerk live...
Are coursera certificates actually useful or nah
I mean you'll learn some shit but probably nobody will take it seriously except as a minor point on your resume
>>246
But Rashomon is a great movie. And everyone gets the Rashomon plot wrong anyway. Even the woodcutter's story in Rashomon is a lie.
I just managed to get a pair of fucking contacts on and I feel like I look worse?
Lame confession: I pretended to love Rashomon in high school because I was a total weeb and self-proclaimed "film buff" but secretly I thought it was boring just as >>246 predicted
Rashomon feels boring now because it's mainly remembered for giving its name to the "Rashomon effect" and for introducing the idea that the camera itself could kind of be an unreliable narrator. That's what I was getting at, it feels played out despite being the thing that literally gave its name to that storytelling technique because we've had 6 decades of subsequent movies using that technique.
So, I want to propose the name "Rashomon effect effect" for the phenomenon where the work where a certain effect or device originated starts to feel trite or boring only because so many works that came after it also used that effect.
Other people already call that the "Citizen Kane effect" or the "Seinfeld effect."
i hate my life
Well, what do you think of The 400 Blows. It's also a movie for snobs but it's a light-mooded picaresque for the most part.
hi
life is depressing
few years ago i met a guy who rumor around the place was that he tried to make himself a meme looking like a creepy bastard, i even ran into a couple examples in the wild
i guess it's good for him it didn't really catch on, i wouldn't want something like that haunting me now just because i thought it was a good decision at age 19ish
from tinder import date
date.regret()
My back hurts.
play virtual american football, get shot
Everything keeps happening.
>>258
I like the 400 Blows. French New Wave and Italian Neorealism is a lot more interesting than a lot of people think. A movie like the Bicycle Thief is just plain entertaining, regardless of its artistic merit.
Diogenic irony
shiny pussies
Girly orgasms.
god when did i get so gay
I'M GONNA VIOLATE YOU
vc: yazzan
My most unpopular opinion is that "could care less" is an implied conditional and is thus both grammatically and logically correct and adding "not" doesn't significantly change the meaning of the sentence.
example:
Alice: Did you hear about the record-breaking corn harvest in Shattuck, Oklahoma last month?
Bob: I could care less!
Taking Bob's statement to its logical conclusion, the expanded meaning is something like [the only way that] I could care less [than I do right now] [is if you told me about the corn harvest in Shattuck, OK!]. It's a similar case as when you say "I would like some of that corn, please", the implied conditional being something like "if it's ok for me to have some".
The cases are many such with regards to similar grammatical constructs, but it's basically another meme that 99 iqs who imagine themselves as 139 iqs like to drop to try to look smart. At some point the internet decided that the way to be a cool and hip so-random edgy ironylord is to take a mundane opinion over something inconsequential and pretend their entire life revolves around it. See also the pineapple on pizza "controversy".
The phrase bothers me a little because it reminds me of those fuckers who don't pronounce/type very carefully and drop "n't" from things that maybe uhhhh you should not be making the fucking opposite statement, like when, say, denying bestiality.
Humans are, relative to everything else we know about, excellent conversationalists; Bob could have said literally anything else and the context and his tone of voice would tell Alice everything she needed to know.
This "logical conclusion" for Bob's statement, if that is the only logical conclusion and if it actually is a logical conclusion, sounds like more of a statement of Bob's opinions of Alice's oratory skills ("I did care a bit, but you're going to suck the fun out of it, so please don't tell me").
> See also the pineapple on pizza "controversy"
i think you're literally the only one person on the internet who isn't in on the joke.
> ("I did care a bit, but you're going to suck the fun out of it, so please don't tell me").
that's quite the leap for a logical conclusion lol, especially considering that the intended meaning is so obviously not giving any amounts of shit regardless of who is Bob speaking to. no condition whatsoever on the original expression. what am i even reading.
The implied conditional of "I would like some of that corn, please" can only be "you're going to give it to me"
Smoking salvia gives me the feeling of hopping off the treadmill that powers reality. There was a tree-like being there who didn't really say anything, but gave me the feeling of "yes, this is the true reality... why do you seem so surprised?" Coming back to sober reality I was quite shaken, I also had that feeling that this was a façade
pineapple on pizza is whatever, but ...
is a hotdog a sandwich!??!? OMFGyesn't
someone who declares the amount of shit they don't give probably thinks it an excellent substitute for saying what they do care about, but in general, it isn't. instead, it's a conversation-terminating cliche, which generally comes across as boorish. and perhaps they think that an excellent substitute for character, but i think it is not.
having said that, it is an okay thing to declare "so what?" or "i don't care about that". we only have limited time to pay attention to shit so we should be very careful that we don't have an opinion on every little thing, else we never pay enough devotion to the things we actually want to make happen.
it's not about money, it's about sending a message. droggeljug.
I keep lying to people.
>>282
cereal is soup
calzone is a dumpling
salsa is fruit salad
fight me
cute girl who rotates permanently
Does the internet make you hate people younger than you? I'd like to see a case study on this.
No, getting old does
>>282
10 dishes you won't believe are sandwiches. number 6 will blow your mind.
> Definition of sandwich
> b : one slice of bread covered with food
pizza is a sandwich
What would John Montagu, 4th Earl of Sandwich, PC, FRS say?
How has Bob Odenkirk never been on Arrested Development?
>>279
You misunderstand
> [the only way that] I could care less [than I do right now] [is if you told me about the corn harvest in Shattuck, OK!]
sounds, to me, like
> I did care a bit, but you're going to suck the fun out of it, so please don't tell me
Please try to use the principle of charitable reading when using the Internet
> Please try to use the principle of charitable reading when using the Internet
The most charitable interpretation is that they meant to write that they didn't give a shit, regardless of what their interlocutor is going to say. Thus, they couldn't care less, as in absolute impossibility of caring any less. I understand where you are coming from, and it makes sense, but I absolutely guarantee that is not what people intend to express when they say "I could care less".
Anyway, shittier idioms exist that are probably born this exact way. Irregardless is no longer detected by spell checkers as a mistake, so hey, english language doesn't necessarily need to make grammatical or etymological sense.
I'm doing okay.